RasAlGhul •20 years ago •
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I'm not the best MK player out there, but the list I've just made is from my personal experience online, it is far away from official and I've just made it for fun but tell me what you think :)
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God Tier
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1. Bo Rai Cho
2. Noob-Smoke
3. Dairou
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High Tier
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4. Kobra
5. Scorpion
6. Darrius
7. Shujinko
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Mid Tier
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8. Jade
9. Liu Kang
10. Baraka
11. Raiden
12. Ashrah
13. Tanya
14. Nightwolf
15. Sub-Zero
16. Hotaru
17. Kenshi
18. Ermac
19. Mileena
20. Kabal
21. Sindel
22. Havik
23. Li Mei
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Low Tier
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24. Kira
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God Tier
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1. Bo Rai Cho
2. Noob-Smoke
3. Dairou
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High Tier
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4. Kobra
5. Scorpion
6. Darrius
7. Shujinko
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Mid Tier
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8. Jade
9. Liu Kang
10. Baraka
11. Raiden
12. Ashrah
13. Tanya
14. Nightwolf
15. Sub-Zero
16. Hotaru
17. Kenshi
18. Ermac
19. Mileena
20. Kabal
21. Sindel
22. Havik
23. Li Mei
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Low Tier
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24. Kira
RasAlGhul •20 years ago •
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and could someone explain to me why is Jade always ranked under Liu Kang?
she have projectile protection(which is good against Liu low fireballs) and she does heavy damage, and she also have a teleport...
she have projectile protection(which is good against Liu low fireballs) and she does heavy damage, and she also have a teleport...
RasAlGhul Wrote:
and could someone explain to me why is Jade always ranked under Liu Kang?
she have projectile protection(which is good against Liu low fireballs) and she does heavy damage, and she also have a teleport...
and could someone explain to me why is Jade always ranked under Liu Kang?
she have projectile protection(which is good against Liu low fireballs) and she does heavy damage, and she also have a teleport...
Liu isn't top because of his low foreball. It's his speed and quick recovery, not to mention his easy high damage juggles. Jade does major damage, yes...but if she's blocked (which happens often) she can and will be punished for it. Her projectile protection is really only effective against smoke, sub-zero, and dairou...as everyone else's projectiles are pretty much worthless. Jade's teleport, if not used properly, is easily punished.
Jade is very good, but not as good as Liu.
I like this one the best so far:
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God Tier
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1. Bo Rai Cho
2. Noob-Smoke
3. Dairou
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High Tier
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4. Kobra
5. Scorpion
6. Darrius
7. Shujinko
This is eerily similar to what I've posted on www.gamefaqs.com once to explain the basics to people.I also believe it's the right thing to do and to seperate the top three with the top/high tiers.BRC,N/S,and Dairou are just too good and can beat anyone.From here on,Tanya and Liu Kang must be included.Then,people like Raiden,Jade,Baraka,etc.Someone should construct a mid-tier list and we'll work on it if it needs any corrections.The worst characters in the game IMO are Kira and Li Mei.But Kira probably gets the worst rank.
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God Tier
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1. Bo Rai Cho
2. Noob-Smoke
3. Dairou
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High Tier
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4. Kobra
5. Scorpion
6. Darrius
7. Shujinko
This is eerily similar to what I've posted on www.gamefaqs.com once to explain the basics to people.I also believe it's the right thing to do and to seperate the top three with the top/high tiers.BRC,N/S,and Dairou are just too good and can beat anyone.From here on,Tanya and Liu Kang must be included.Then,people like Raiden,Jade,Baraka,etc.Someone should construct a mid-tier list and we'll work on it if it needs any corrections.The worst characters in the game IMO are Kira and Li Mei.But Kira probably gets the worst rank.
RasAlGhul •20 years ago •
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m2dave Wrote:
I like this one the best so far:
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God Tier
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1. Bo Rai Cho
2. Noob-Smoke
3. Dairou
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High Tier
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4. Kobra
5. Scorpion
6. Darrius
7. Shujinko
This is eerily similar to what I've posted on www.gamefaqs.com once to explain the basics to people.I also believe it's the right thing to do and to seperate the top three with the top/high tiers.BRC,N/S,and Dairou are just too good and can beat anyone.From here on,Tanya and Liu Kang must be included.Then,people like Raiden,Jade,Baraka,etc.Someone should construct a mid-tier list and we'll work on it if it needs any corrections.The worst characters in the game IMO are Kira and Li Mei.But Kira probably gets the worst rank.
I like this one the best so far:
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God Tier
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1. Bo Rai Cho
2. Noob-Smoke
3. Dairou
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High Tier
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4. Kobra
5. Scorpion
6. Darrius
7. Shujinko
This is eerily similar to what I've posted on www.gamefaqs.com once to explain the basics to people.I also believe it's the right thing to do and to seperate the top three with the top/high tiers.BRC,N/S,and Dairou are just too good and can beat anyone.From here on,Tanya and Liu Kang must be included.Then,people like Raiden,Jade,Baraka,etc.Someone should construct a mid-tier list and we'll work on it if it needs any corrections.The worst characters in the game IMO are Kira and Li Mei.But Kira probably gets the worst rank.
I agree 100% about those characters being 'God tier' and 'high tier' my personal experiences when facing people who used N-S and did the infinite all the time made me a believer... However without the infinite N-S would me a mid tier character I think...
thank you for the explanation Konqrr, I rarely use Liu so I was sure that his main strenght were the low fireball, got to admit that he is pretty quick also, is it possible that we can,t use a breaker against Liu bike kick but we can use one against Shujinko bike kick? because I often tries to break Liu bike kick and it doesn't work..why is that. I also find Jade projectile projection pretty useful against Kobra low fireball... particularly against people who abuse them
hmmm konqrr interesting thing with ur scorpion ranking
i have asked myself a few times the same thing and maybe i have to
agree that darrius is better than him
konqrr, anyways, what are in ur opinion the low tier chars?
moreover, ghul, the tier list excludes infinites.. n/s is still second best
character in the game.. haven't u never played against a good one?
like m2dave said, ns gots the best and safest 50/50 mixup in the
whole game, dude and his unbreakable combo is truculent
Here's a link to the Puzzle tier list, in case you missed it:
http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/content/forum/showmessage.cds?id=40284
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http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/content/forum/showmessage.cds?id=40284
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Kabal needs to be higher,he has some broken stuff in Hookswords. u2 alone does 16 damage,hits low and gives tremendous advantage ; 4 hits mid,does 9 and u have a free throw after it.Both hits are pretty safe too.After a juggle u get 50% or more.This is too good.The tier list should be like this imo :
1 BRC
2 Dairou
3 NS
4 Kobra
5 Scorpion
6 Darrius
7 Shujinko
8 Liu Kang
9 Kabal
10 Baraka
Omega Supreme •20 years ago •
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I tend to agree with Galactic on this one. Remember that for a long time in DA, Mavado was gravely underestimated as well, and Kabal has inherited all hookswords moves. Not only is u+2 great, so is u+3 which comes with a sidestep.
Oh yeah, and a noticed the free throw after 4 since playing Galactic yesterday, hehe :).
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Oh yeah, and a noticed the free throw after 4 since playing Galactic yesterday, hehe :).
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Galactic Wrote:Kabal needs to be higher,he has some broken stuff in Hookswords. u2 alone does 16 damage,hits low and gives tremendous advantage ; 4 does 9 and u have a free throw after it.Both hits are pretty safe too.After a juggle u get 50% or more.The tier list should be like this imo :
1 BRC
2 Dairou
3 NS
4 Kobra
5 Scorpion
6 Darrius
7 Shujinko
8 Liu Kang
9 Kabal
10 Baraka
1 BRC
2 Dairou
3 NS
4 Kobra
5 Scorpion
6 Darrius
7 Shujinko
8 Liu Kang
9 Kabal
10 Baraka
I agree with this...but one thing...it's Mileena, THEN Kabal, then Baraka
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Bo' Rai Cho - 82% Puke Combo
Bo' Rai Cho - 95% Corner Combo
This makes me sick
Plus...some Jinko goodness:
Shujinko - 98%
Shujinko - 102%
Konqrr Wrote:
It should be like this:
TOP TIER:
1. bo
2. n/s
3. dairou
4. kobra
5. darrius
MID TIER:
6. scorpion
7. shujinko
8. liu kang
9. jade
10. baraka
11. raiden
12. ashrah
13. MILEENA
Jade is better than baraka, Mileena is properly placed.
This list needs some serious revamping.
It should be like this:
TOP TIER:
1. bo
2. n/s
3. dairou
4. kobra
5. darrius
MID TIER:
6. scorpion
7. shujinko
8. liu kang
9. jade
10. baraka
11. raiden
12. ashrah
13. MILEENA
Jade is better than baraka, Mileena is properly placed.
This list needs some serious revamping.
I KNEW it!
Mileena should had never been placed in the low tier rank. But it was curious, and surprised me to see all the royal family in the low tier rankings as someof the worst characters (Kitana, Sindel, Mileena).
Mileena and Sindel are definitely underestimated, same with Kabal. His hooks swords cause some serious damage and are pretty quick. Mavado was in the same circumstances before (like someone already said).
Sindel is fast and causes some decent damage, not high enough to be in the top mid tier but definitely not low tier.
And yes, Kira is powerful in Kenpo but she just sucks against the rest. Lest hope she learns to play with her own set of moves next time.
As for Mileena, I agree Konqrr, this list should be updated. She has to save the royal family bad reputation.
Versatile •20 years ago •
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Howdy...just letting people know I haven't died or anything. I'm still very much "down with MK and the MK peoplez", but lately I have been doing other things. NBA season, playing other non-fighter games and trying to get a grasp of Tekken 5 are just a couple things. I also have been spending more time with my friends and family(something much overdue), and trying to get with this girl I know. Lastly, my grades have been drastically below par for past year or so, and to get the freedom I oh so desperately want, I have to do better. My PS2 currently isn't with me, so I have no way to play deception and try out these sweet new things you guys have discovered, but when I get that back and pick up the gamecube version you can expect to see big changes to the list. Goro and Shao Kahn will also be implemented into the list. I know I promised version 2 of the MKDA tier list a few years back and never came up with it, but this time I guarantee.
I already can't wait till MK7...
I already can't wait till MK7...
Omega Supreme •20 years ago •
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Konqrr (and others), why do you think Scorpion is better than Shujinko? IMO if you've lost your three breakers against Shujinko, you're game. Against Scorpion, you still have a decent chance.
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Scorpion's lockdown is too good. His free hellfire game is almost as good as it was in DA giving you free 50/50 mixups.
Jinko Shaolin Fist is his best stance by far with d+1 into the mixup game...ESPECIALLY in the corner...but it's just not as good as Scorpion.
Jinko Shaolin Fist is his best stance by far with d+1 into the mixup game...ESPECIALLY in the corner...but it's just not as good as Scorpion.
Mileena can hold you down with Mian Chuan 4 and 4,1...when she hits you with a popup, she can do a ball and get a free throw out of it and start the throw/4,1 mixup all over again...it's too powerful for most characters. Also, her d+1 low poke in Mian Chuan will stop most retaliation attempts if someone blocks a 4 or 4,1.
Ashrah...she is the queen of 50/50. In all of her stances she has some major mixups and stuns in her Kriss stance. Her throw does 20% and is unbreakable. She will break you down in no time.
Tanya is great, but not as good as the above two.
Ashrah...she is the queen of 50/50. In all of her stances she has some major mixups and stuns in her Kriss stance. Her throw does 20% and is unbreakable. She will break you down in no time.
Tanya is great, but not as good as the above two.
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Konqrr is right, I play Mileena a lot and I can usually make short work of any player with her including Dairou. Her poke anchors your opponent in their place allowing you to press your attack and go for mix ups in Mian Chuan style. Her recovery speed from her 2,2, attack if its blocked allows you to immediately poke with d+1to anchor the opponent. U+2 allows you to track a potential side stepper and it juggles giving you a chance to capitalize on their mistake. U+2 also has a deceptive recovery time making it look like you are stuck but in reality you can easily poke with d+1 and of course choose what ever you want to do after the d+1(i.e) throw, 4,1, or poke again. After a throw you can close in on your opponent with her b+2,2,2, It can also be back dash cancelled and you can throw out a Sai blast to stop any potential retaliation attempt after it. Mileena is a solid character that deservs the mid tier spot. I believe the only reason they liste her as a low tier is because at that time her overall damage from combos that were known were no more that 17%, and no one explored her 2nd style fully to know what she was "hiding under her veil". That has all been changed at this time.
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YingYeung •20 years ago •
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I'm sure you guys have put lots of efforts making this list, although i find sad that Mileena is a low tier. Especially considering how awesome they could have made her. Anyway, I'm proud to say that, ven though she isnt as efficient as most of the characters, I am still unbeaten with Mileena in MKD, AND she remains the true boss of MK2 !! Muahahahaha !! I damn hope they make Mileena a top tier in MK7
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Sindel should not be in low tier at all. She is so damn awesome! If u seen danadbabs Sindel thread then u would know. In her 2nd style if u keep doing down+4 and then throwing in a back+2, u r almost unbeatable vs most ppl. There is no recovery rate on eaither of those attacks. Her 1st fighting style isnt that great but the kwan do is very good vs ppl who like to stay away. Plus she has big combos, like those 1s on Konqqs site are awesome and pretty easy to do. She should be atleast in the mid tier.
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Sindel should not be in low tier at all. She is so damn awesome! If u seen danadbabs Sindel thread then u would know. In her 2nd style if u keep doing down+4 and then throwing in a back+2, u r almost unbeatable vs most ppl. There is no recovery rate on eaither of those attacks. Her 1st fighting style isnt that great but the kwan do is very good vs ppl who like to stay away. Plus she has big combos, like those 1s on Konqqs site are awesome and pretty easy to do. She should be atleast in the mid tier.
Sindel should not be in low tier at all. She is so damn awesome! If u seen danadbabs Sindel thread then u would know. In her 2nd style if u keep doing down+4 and then throwing in a back+2, u r almost unbeatable vs most ppl. There is no recovery rate on eaither of those attacks. Her 1st fighting style isnt that great but the kwan do is very good vs ppl who like to stay away. Plus she has big combos, like those 1s on Konqqs site are awesome and pretty easy to do. She should be atleast in the mid tier.
Yep. I have also mentioned this in other posts concerning Mileena and Sindel.
I think we should wait for the tier list to be redone. Im sure many mistakes have already been found besides the ones being discussed here.
Sindel and Mileena are definitely not low tier characters. Im no expert, I could be wrong, but thats howI see it.
There is no way the entire royal family belongs to the worst characters (MKDA: Kitana, MKD: Sindel, Mileena). Mileena and Sindel both should be in mid tier like Jade and Tanya.
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I wouldn't consider him to be low tier. Mid-tier would be fairly suitable for him: his juggles easily do 30% damage, he has a throw that pops up, pi gua b+1 and b+2 are moves that are both very good, and oh yeah, didn't he have an infinite? Only Hotaru's long range game is weak.
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PS: Did anyone ever notice that ba shan fan 4, although completely useless, does 18% all by itself?
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PS: Did anyone ever notice that ba shan fan 4, although completely useless, does 18% all by itself?
Not to mention 1,4 does 28%, you can just see people go "wtf" when they see the damage rating.
Hotaru is one of my favorites, Vers gave me some good pointers for him. It's all about Pi Gua, mixing up b+1 and throw, which results in 1,1,cs (needs timing though, because the last hit tends to whiff online)) for another 50/50 in Pi Gua or sidestep throw, you can also use 1,1,4 if they are close to a wall.
Aside from that I like to use his weapon's 3, it comes out at decent speed and has nice reach, even though it's totally unsafe, but it stuns the player for a mixup.
His first style is fun, and has a good amount of mid-hits. Mix up 1,3 and 1,b+3 to keep them guessing. At the first sight of ducking go 2,1,cs 1,1,cs for the mixup discribed above.
His Lava-blast is pretty safe when blocked, and since it can't be sidestepped, makes for a decent keep-away game.
Hotaru is one of my favorites, Vers gave me some good pointers for him. It's all about Pi Gua, mixing up b+1 and throw, which results in 1,1,cs (needs timing though, because the last hit tends to whiff online)) for another 50/50 in Pi Gua or sidestep throw, you can also use 1,1,4 if they are close to a wall.
Aside from that I like to use his weapon's 3, it comes out at decent speed and has nice reach, even though it's totally unsafe, but it stuns the player for a mixup.
His first style is fun, and has a good amount of mid-hits. Mix up 1,3 and 1,b+3 to keep them guessing. At the first sight of ducking go 2,1,cs 1,1,cs for the mixup discribed above.
His Lava-blast is pretty safe when blocked, and since it can't be sidestepped, makes for a decent keep-away game.
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