They sure did, chummer.


People keep parroting this bullshit like it's a good thing.

"Is it really a good thing?" is a question they should really be asking themselves.


I will fucking fight you.

Then why should you care about Johnny's death?
The military doesn't work like that.
It would matter and be much more impactful to Subby than his own permenant death.

I guess MK characters not having personalities is your opinion, but I wholeheartedly disagree.

Also, Raiden's healing isn't a plot hole. Sometimes healing is used as a Deus ex Machina, however Raiden's healing ability has been well established.

Death is similar to Jax losing his arm's or Shang Tsung getting his youth back. It's a plot point. It's important, but it's not the end.

what the fuck am I reading

Those characters are alive now!!!!!! Also bring it!!!!! :p When has raiden powers to heal been established or his power to send messages back in time? "Raiden we are losing can u please send another message back in time so we can win please. Thanks" also raiden proved he can bring people back to life by asking the gods if they what he says so having your whole clan killed not a big deal. Johnny dieing is not as bad as I'm ugly oh no.

They're so alive that the only way to bring them back was to fucking turn back time and/or slip into a parallel universe where Kahn doesn't end up becoming a god and destroying all of existence.


"good guys always win" tho

Its in issue. 11, pretty sure he has to have direct access to the Jinsei to heal people. Scorpion's entire story is molded around his resurrecton, the plots of MK3 and MKD are souly based around someone coming back from the dead, Subbys transformation into noob.

They did......... Raiden changed the whole world to win. What would stop him from doing the same thing again?

He did it in MK9 to Jax.

Like said above he healed jax.

Because it worked out soooo well the first time.

I thought it was going to visit various points in time inbetween the 25 year span as well (i.e. 5 yrs later, 10 yrs later, 20 yrs later etc).

Well yea. The characters can be freed from the nr instead of just being dead. Proof of this is jax.

Something he has never, ever done before, and never does again, even when Kitana is fucking dying right in front of him.


You have no understanding of how a typical time travel story works, do you?

That universe that we were following for 8-some games?
IT'S FUCKED. The good guys didn't win, they all died horribly. What dimension are you from where that counts as "victory"?

If what Kittelsen is implying is true, and we really are in a parallel universe, then the heroes we're following now might as well be complete strangers. Just because our perspective suddenly shifted to them doesn't undo the fact that the heroes in OT failed.


Aside from the fact that things turned out so great the first time around? :D

Nothing, I suppose.

Fair enough, I actually had to go back and watch that sequence so I'll give you that, but bitching about resurrections in MK is ridiculous because its been an established element of the story since day fucking one.

Raiden knows the truth and so did the people he told. They are still the winner cus armageddon never happened. Also I'm not bitching about resurrection I'm just saying the story will not be amazing

Yeah, they were alive again, with all their trials and tribulations erased and their lives undone. Then they went on to be killed and tormented and turned into servants of Quan Chi. Yeah death sure has no consequence and they sure did come out on top there didn't they.

The only reason Raiden resorted to such methods was because all of reality was about to come to an end. Shao Kahn was about to merge all the realms with his power and guess what happens then. The One being is reformed and bye bye Shao Kahn. Bye bye everything.

Look this is a fighting game. You are never going to have them approach this shit like it's game of thrones where characters are brutally and unceremoniously killed and have it be for good.

That's not how fighting games or MK work. But MK at least handles this better then some fighting games. Lookin at you there Tekken.

Death does indeed have consequences.

Bi-Han dies, Quan Chi gets his hands on him, exacts his revenge and turns him into Noob Saibot. Turning him into a creature who is to his very core, evil.

Scorpion dies. Gets nabbed by Quan Chi and is turned into a wrath filled specter.

Liu Kang is killed has his body resurrected as a soules killing machine by his long time mentor.

Raiden dies, is corrupted and turns into a mad extremist who is willing to kill those who gave everything they have to fight to protect Earth.

Characters don't end just because they die.

But these people can now be saved. Nrs can and will do whatever it takes to have some characters back. They messed up on cyber sub zero and what do u know.

Yeah they can be saved but who knows what kind of damage such an experience will have done.

Let's just wait and give it a score when the game comes out. It is too early right now to tell.

Raiden being smart was not what I was trying to prove. I guess WELL established wasn't the right choice of words.

True but Kung Lao seems fine but we will see.

Well this thread is certainly an enjoyable read.



I'll agree that it's the appropriate terminology NOW. He's already healed Fujin (and Takeda? - not sure if it was Raiden's doing or that "heart of Earthrealm" magic) so it's obviously a retconned ability NRS wants him to have.

And I'm convinced Raiden just flat out doesn't like Kitana. That's what that scene said to me. He didn't even want to take the time to rescue her from Kahn after he had pushed her into it. Raiden is trifling yo.

I don't get the defenders of the MK Story...

It's a franchise, of course they'll bring dead characters back if they die, which in turn means that the story won't be all that great.

The writers are not that great either, it's made for fun, thinking about it too much just sucks out the fun out of it. I realized this a while back, I used to get angry that the dead characters are back, but I really don't give two fucks anymore.

MKX's story will be filled with shock value moments just like MK9 was,MKA was,MKD was,MKDA was and all the other games since MK1. They love to "shock" us, but they don't realize we are no longer shocked by what they do, story is no where near interesting.

MK will never be an interesting story or thought provoking story, but it is fun, and that's all that matters in a video game, for it to be fun.

It's as simple and uninteresting as a Superman story.

Bad guys do bad things, Good guys stop them.

And good guys always, ALWAYS win.

Shang Tsung MK1, lost.
Shao Kahn MK2,MK3, lost.
Shinnok MK4, lost.
Deadly Alliance MKDA, lost.
Onaga MKD, lost.
Blaze was beaten by Taven, but because of the bullshit reboot, Shao Kahn killed Blaze, and guess what? He still didn't win, Raiden went back in time, and stopped Shao Kahn, so good guys won again.

even the disgraceful MKvsDC had the good guys winning.

So whoever thinks MKX will be a different story than, good guys win, then I'm sorry but you are delusional.

MK stories have never and will never have depth to them.

Just like a action movie it is a nice ride.

"Red Son" and "What's So Funny About Truth,Justice and the American Way" motherfucker.