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06/10/2014 07:31 PM (UTC)
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Am....Am I in the Matrix right now? The thing someone else doesn't like is other people not liking the same things they like? Am I on crazy pills?

Though I would like to thank Darkhound for proving my point four posts after my post


Hold on now.....

I didn't insult ANYONE about their opinion. I just said it was a bit asinine to judge after such a small fragment of gameplay or backstory. I mean some people will never be truly happy with MK.
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06/10/2014 07:32 PM (UTC)
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People obviously have forgotten that we have at least six realms to have these characters originate from.


And that' sthe thing I don't like. I'm all cool with Netherrealm, Outworld, Edenia... but Order Realm and Chaos Realm? That's just so... lazy. sad
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06/10/2014 07:38 PM (UTC)
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Darkhound74 Wrote:
Charybdis Wrote:
Am....Am I in the Matrix right now? The thing someone else doesn't like is other people not liking the same things they like? Am I on crazy pills?

Though I would like to thank Darkhound for proving my point four posts after my post


Hold on now.....

I didn't insult ANYONE about their opinion. I just said it was a bit asinine to judge after such a small fragment of gameplay or backstory. I mean some people will never be truly happy with MK.


Accusing someone of making an asinine statement is an insult in my books.

Furthermore, its not an asinine statement. I don't care if Little and Large are the One Being Incarnate, that squeaky voice is consistently gonna break my flow and throw me out of the game. If other people like that character, more power to them, I'm glad they get a game where they like everything. But that does not mean it's an asinine statement to say that, in my opinion, Little and Large don't feel MK-y

Will I ever be truly happy with MK? Of course. The only MK game I'm not happy with is Armageddon. I'll love MKX, and the fact that I don't like one new character does not mean I'll never be happy with MK. Slow down with the presumptions sunshine
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06/10/2014 07:40 PM (UTC)
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I honestly wasn't referring to you though...

I was talking about majority of people last night.
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06/10/2014 07:41 PM (UTC)
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Which included me
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06/10/2014 07:42 PM (UTC)
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@IceBaby Really? You think that's what it is? Or maybe people are just pointing out that the characters look like they belong in other games.

Not sure I feel about the Bug lady. I felt the same way when I saw Nitara for the first time.. A vampire with wings in a MK game? Weird.. Maybe she will grow on me though. and it doesn't Matter if the footage we have seen in 3 minutes or 3 hours.. if there is something we see or hear that we don't like, its not asinine for us to point it out, we are just stating an opinion
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06/10/2014 07:43 PM (UTC)
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Charybdis Wrote:
Which included me


Sorry you felt like I singled you out?

But anyway like I said hopefully these next few days will give us some really good info on what small glimpses we saw.
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06/10/2014 07:44 PM (UTC)
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Darkhound74 Wrote:
Charybdis Wrote:
Which included me


Sorry you felt like I singled you out?

But anyway like I said hopefully these next few days will give us some really good info on what small glimpses we saw.


I don't feel you singled me out. I felt that you stated that everyone who states the opinion that I hold makes an asinine statement. Exactly what you said.
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06/10/2014 07:47 PM (UTC)
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Charybdis Wrote:
Darkhound74 Wrote:
Charybdis Wrote:
Which included me


Sorry you felt like I singled you out?

But anyway like I said hopefully these next few days will give us some really good info on what small glimpses we saw.


I don't feel you singled me out. I felt that you stated that everyone who states the opinion that I hold makes an asinine statement. Exactly what you said.


Well I apologize it came off that way, honestly wasn't trying to insult you or anyone. I just felt it was a little early to hold judgment after a few clips.
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06/10/2014 07:48 PM (UTC)
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Darkhound74 Wrote:
Charybdis Wrote:
Darkhound74 Wrote:
Charybdis Wrote:
Which included me


Sorry you felt like I singled you out?

But anyway like I said hopefully these next few days will give us some really good info on what small glimpses we saw.


I don't feel you singled me out. I felt that you stated that everyone who states the opinion that I hold makes an asinine statement. Exactly what you said.


Well I apologize it came off that way, honestly wasn't trying to insult you or anyone. I just felt it was a little early to hold judgment after a few clips.


Fair enough. I agree to a degree, my judgement could change conceivably (I doubt it, that voice is a killer). But apology accepted. I apologise myself if I caused you any consternation
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06/10/2014 07:49 PM (UTC)
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Everything is A-Okay! grin
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06/10/2014 07:53 PM (UTC)
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If only all internet disputes could be solved so amicably! smile
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06/10/2014 07:53 PM (UTC)
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@IceBaby Really? You think that's what it is? Or maybe people are just pointing out that the characters look like they belong in other games.


Yeah, that's what I think it is. You guys clearly have forgotten that there's at least six realms these characters could come from. What, anything that looks non-human should not become a character to play as? We all have to sit here and play nothing but humans with the exception of Reptile, Baraka, and Drahmin? (And any other non-human characters I missed) Give me a break!

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Not sure I feel about the Bug lady. I felt the same way when I saw Nitara for the first time.. A vampire with wings in a MK game? Weird.. Maybe she will grow on me though.


I'd like for people to actually have this kind of feeling towards everything they're complaining about rather than just immediately jumping the gun in saying that it sucks without even experiencing it themselves.

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and it doesn't Matter if the footage we have seen in 3 minutes or 3 hours.. if there is something we see or hear that we don't like, its not asinine for us to point it out, we are just stating an opinion


You guys can have opinions all you want, but also realize you're on a discussion forum. Expect people to challenge your opinions, even if you don't like it. People here are clearly doing that. They don't understand how you or anyone else can be so judgmental about something that we hardly even know. If you're that offended that someone says, "it's asinine" or "it's ridiculous," I don't know what to tell you then.
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06/10/2014 07:57 PM (UTC)
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MKfan99 Wrote:
@IceBaby Really? You think that's what it is? Or maybe people are just pointing out that the characters look like they belong in other games.


Yeah, that's what I think it is. You guys clearly have forgotten that there's at least six realms these characters could come from. What, anything that looks non-human should not become a character to play as? We all have to sit here and play nothing but humans with the exception of Reptile, Baraka, and Drahmin? (And any other non-human characters I missed) Give me a break!

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Not sure I feel about the Bug lady. I felt the same way when I saw Nitara for the first time.. A vampire with wings in a MK game? Weird.. Maybe she will grow on me though.


I'd like for people to actually have this kind of feeling towards everything they're complaining about rather than just immediately jumping the gun in saying that it sucks without even experiencing it themselves.

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and it doesn't Matter if the footage we have seen in 3 minutes or 3 hours.. if there is something we see or hear that we don't like, its not asinine for us to point it out, we are just stating an opinion


You guys can have opinions all you want, but also realize you're on a discussion forum. Expect people to challenge your opinions, even if you don't like it. People here are clearly doing that. They don't understand how you or anyone else can be so judgmental about something that we hardly even know. If you're that offended that someone says, "it's asinine" or "it's ridiculous," I don't know what to tell you then.


Why can people not challenge opinions without insulting the opinion? Is that too much to ask? I mean, even here people had a thread about things they disliked and you stormed in telling them that it was way too early to dislike things. I accept people have different opinions than me, I revel in it. It makes life fun, uniformity is bland. But that doesn't mean that stating my opinion means I have to accept people informing me my opinion is ridiculous.

For instance, your argument goes that we've seen way too little of the characters to judge if they feel MK-y. So why is it that posts which say how much they like the new characters aren't called asinine? Because its the prevailing opinion.

There is a marked difference between encouraging discussion and challenging opinions, and ending discussion and ridiculing opinions
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06/10/2014 08:05 PM (UTC)
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@IceBaby Why are you even in this Thread, where people are encouraged to say what they don't like, if you think its stupid that people have negative opinions already? Are you just trying to Troll people? If you think its stupid just go to a different thread and pretend this one doesn't exist. I made this thread KNOWING people wouldn't agree with some things we said. Every one is entitled to their opinion.. This thread is suppose to be one for people who see stuff they don't like about the game.. Without people like you giving them a hard time for it. So are you on here right now JUST to give people a hard time?
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06/10/2014 08:07 PM (UTC)
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@IceBaby Why are you even in this Thread, where people are encouraged to say what they don't like, if you think its stupid that people have negative opinions already? Are you just trying to Troll people? If you think its stupid just go to a different thread and pretend this one doesn't exist. I made this thread KNOWING people wouldn't agree with some things we said. Every one is entitled to their opinion.. This thread is suppose to be one for people who see stuff they don't like about the game.. Without people like you giving them a hard time for it. So are you on here right now JUST to give people a hard time?


Apparently, you are entitled to your opinion, but expect to be ridiculed for it.
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06/10/2014 08:08 PM (UTC)
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Why can people not challenge opinions without insulting the opinion? Is that too much to ask? I mean, even here people had a thread about things they disliked and you stormed in telling them that it was way too early to dislike things. I accept people have different opinions than me, I revel in it. It makes life fun, uniformity is bland. But that doesn't mean that stating my opinion means I have to accept people informing me my opinion is ridiculous.


If you think "ridiculous" is that bad of an insult then I don't know how to kindly put it where it won't hurt feelings. Would you rather have me actually want to say what I really want to say? Because I don't, I don't want to go down that route. I'd rather politely put that kind of statement down in a way where I'm not insulting in a harsh way instead of speaking my two cents truthfully.

Honestly, I do find it ridiculous people are having these kinds of judgments of something that they hardly know. And that is what I don't like.

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For instance, your argument goes that we've seen way too little of the characters to judge if they feel MK-y. So why is it that posts which say how much they like the new characters aren't called asinine? Because its the prevailing opinion.


You can call out people who like something you don't and call it asinine. No one is holding you back. Go ahead, for those who thinks that anyone that likes this game are asinine, say it!
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Charybdis Wrote:
Why can people not challenge opinions without insulting the opinion? Is that too much to ask? I mean, even here people had a thread about things they disliked and you stormed in telling them that it was way too early to dislike things. I accept people have different opinions than me, I revel in it. It makes life fun, uniformity is bland. But that doesn't mean that stating my opinion means I have to accept people informing me my opinion is ridiculous.


If you think "ridiculous" is that bad of an insult then I don't know how to kindly put it where it won't hurt feelings. Would you rather have me actually want to say what I really want to say? Because I don't, I don't want to go down that route. I'd rather politely put that kind of statement down in a way where I'm not insulting in a harsh way instead of speaking my two cents truthfully.

Honestly, I do find it ridiculous people are having these kinds of judgments of something that they hardly know. And that is what I don't like.

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For instance, your argument goes that we've seen way too little of the characters to judge if they feel MK-y. So why is it that posts which say how much they like the new characters aren't called asinine? Because its the prevailing opinion.


You can call out people who like something you don't and call it asinine. No one is holding you back. Go ahead, for those who thinks that anyone that likes this game are asinine, say it!


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@IceBaby Why are you even in this Thread, where people are encouraged to say what they don't like, if you think its stupid that people have negative opinions already? Are you just trying to Troll people? If you think its stupid just go to a different thread and pretend this one doesn't exist. I made this thread KNOWING people wouldn't agree with some things we said. Every one is entitled to their opinion.. This thread is suppose to be one for people who see stuff they don't like about the game.. Without people like you giving them a hard time for it. So are you on here right now JUST to give people a hard time?


I'm in here because of the topic of this thread. "What we don't like," clearly, I don't like how people are this nit picky. I am not "trolling" anything, if you ask me question, I'll answer it. I don't see you going after the other users who said pretty much the same thing. But if you keep quoting me and asking me why I think this way, expect me to spill out MY opinions. If you don't like it, then stop quoting me, stop talking to me. And why am I on right now? Because I can. You really have this much of a problem with me being on? Jesus Christ!

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Apparently, you are entitled to your opinion, but expect to be ridiculed for it.


There's no need to be a jerk.
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06/10/2014 08:12 PM (UTC)
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Charybdis Wrote:
Why can people not challenge opinions without insulting the opinion? Is that too much to ask? I mean, even here people had a thread about things they disliked and you stormed in telling them that it was way too early to dislike things. I accept people have different opinions than me, I revel in it. It makes life fun, uniformity is bland. But that doesn't mean that stating my opinion means I have to accept people informing me my opinion is ridiculous.


If you think "ridiculous" is that bad of an insult then I don't know how to kindly put it where it won't hurt feelings. Would you rather have me actually want to say what I really want to say? Because I don't, I don't want to go down that route. I'd rather politely put that kind of statement down in a way where I'm not insulting in a harsh way instead of speaking my two cents truthfully.

Honestly, I do find it ridiculous people are having these kinds of judgments of something that they hardly know. And that is what I don't like.

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For instance, your argument goes that we've seen way too little of the characters to judge if they feel MK-y. So why is it that posts which say how much they like the new characters aren't called asinine? Because its the prevailing opinion.


You can call out people who like something you don't and call it asinine. No one is holding you back. Go ahead, for those who thinks that anyone that likes this game are asinine, say it!


Oh dear, is someone on the internet gonna insult me? No, I don't care if someone does, knock yourself out love. I just think a discussion forum should endeavour to engender discussion, instead of ridiculing separate opinions and it boggles my mind as to why someone would think that separate opinions being ridiculed is something which should be encouraged on a discussion forum

And no, I don't think anyone who likes this game is asinine. I like this game. Everyone on this forum likes this game. You are not a martyr for positive people. But nice beginner's strawman, B+. Any chance of you actually addressing the issues I raise next time?
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06/10/2014 08:13 PM (UTC)
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@Icebaby Again, why are you even in this thread right now?
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06/10/2014 08:16 PM (UTC)
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Charybdis Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
MKfan99 Wrote:
@IceBaby Really? You think that's what it is? Or maybe people are just pointing out that the characters look like they belong in other games.


Yeah, that's what I think it is. You guys clearly have forgotten that there's at least six realms these characters could come from. What, anything that looks non-human should not become a character to play as? We all have to sit here and play nothing but humans with the exception of Reptile, Baraka, and Drahmin? (And any other non-human characters I missed) Give me a break!

MKfan99 Wrote:
Not sure I feel about the Bug lady. I felt the same way when I saw Nitara for the first time.. A vampire with wings in a MK game? Weird.. Maybe she will grow on me though.


I'd like for people to actually have this kind of feeling towards everything they're complaining about rather than just immediately jumping the gun in saying that it sucks without even experiencing it themselves.

MKfan99 Wrote:
and it doesn't Matter if the footage we have seen in 3 minutes or 3 hours.. if there is something we see or hear that we don't like, its not asinine for us to point it out, we are just stating an opinion


You guys can have opinions all you want, but also realize you're on a discussion forum. Expect people to challenge your opinions, even if you don't like it. People here are clearly doing that. They don't understand how you or anyone else can be so judgmental about something that we hardly even know. If you're that offended that someone says, "it's asinine" or "it's ridiculous," I don't know what to tell you then.


Why can people not challenge opinions without insulting the opinion? Is that too much to ask? I mean, even here people had a thread about things they disliked and you stormed in telling them that it was way too early to dislike things. I accept people have different opinions than me, I revel in it. It makes life fun, uniformity is bland. But that doesn't mean that stating my opinion means I have to accept people informing me my opinion is ridiculous.

For instance, your argument goes that we've seen way too little of the characters to judge if they feel MK-y. So why is it that posts which say how much they like the new characters aren't called asinine? Because its the prevailing opinion.

There is a marked difference between encouraging discussion and challenging opinions, and ending discussion and ridiculing opinions


Good reply Charybdis. Saves me to write a lot smile.

I've got no real dog in this fight. I love Sub-Zero so much that as long as he's in the game in some iteration I'm happy.

Having said that, I CANNOT stand when people who are critical are attacked for an OPINION. There were a lot ass-hats in the conference trailer thread. One in particular who I've disliked for a long time. I really wish there was an ignore feature here, but I digress.

Icebaby, you didn't "challenge" anyone. It'd be one thing if you came in here for a discussion as asked the OP to go more in depth about their concerns and then point counterpoint him. Instead you resorted to tired old whining. You want to champion the "discussion forum" why aren't you asking those posters who love everything why it is they are so enamored when only "two short trailers" have been released so far?
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06/10/2014 08:17 PM (UTC)
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@Icebaby There's no need to be a jerk. I suggest you stop being one in that instance
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06/10/2014 08:18 PM (UTC)
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I don't have a problem with you being on.. I have a problem with the fact that there are people like you on here who can't just let people talk about things ABOUT THE GAME they don't like... without you giving them Sht. That's ridiculous.
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06/10/2014 08:22 PM (UTC)
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Charybdis Wrote:
Oh dear, is someone on the internet gonna insult me? No, I don't care if someone does, knock yourself out love. I just think a discussion forum should endeavour to engender discussion, instead of ridiculing separate opinions and it boggles my mind as to why someone would think that separate opinions being ridiculed is something which should be encouraged on a discussion forum

And no, I don't think anyone who likes this game is asinine. I like this game. Everyone on this forum likes this game. You are not a martyr for positive people. But nice beginner's strawman, B+. Any chance of you actually addressing the issues I raise next time?


Clearly it shows that "insults" bother you because you got so offended when someone said the word "asinine." So I really do think you care. I really saw no harm in those statements because if that's what they think, that's what they think. And I have to agree with them. You may not, but you don't need to get so angrily offended over that word being used. So, yeah, you do care, sweetheart.

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@Icebaby Again, why are you even in this thread right now?


To answer your questions, and to say that what I don't like are nit picking people who judge things way too early without giving it a chance. So, in a way, I do have the right to be in here because I'm answering your question. tongue
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06/10/2014 08:23 PM (UTC)
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MKfan99 Wrote:
I don't have a problem with you being on.. I have a problem with the fact that there are people like you on here who can't just let people talk about things ABOUT THE GAME they don't like... without you giving them Sht. That's ridiculous.


Completely agree, complaining about a game is a lot different than complaining about people.
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