That's her best move, but i can do without it. Her youngest variation should have her acrobatic moves from previous games, like the arc kick, other variation should be based on her kiss attacks/chi attacks, and the oldest should have new moves she mastered througout the years. Leg grab is a must for every variation, that's her signature move and Cassie doesn't do it.

Of course it's her best move, that's the problem. It's so overpowered, just watch Sonicfox's Sonya. As a single move, it's up there with IAGB from Kabal and Noob's teleport in MKT

What I find sad about all of this, is the fact that it seems we're getting the best MK game to date, with amazing gameplay, modes, graphics, story, and yet people are whining about the characters. Oh, and threatening not to buy the game because 1, I repeat 1, character isn't in the game. You're a fake MK fan.

If you're a fan of the series, you should be happy regardless if your favorite is in or not. There are 30+ characters in this game, fully fleshed out with amazing gameplay, looks, and Fatalities.

Be fucking happy! Seems like every time we get some good news in this forum people try to suck up the happiness and spread their miserable state of mind. Get out of here and let others enjoy.

She's an original I guess. I thought the purpose of Cassie was to give sonya and Johnny a break. Yeah she could play differently but why create Cassie at all if that's the case? Why not give the new character new moves lol? it doesn't add up.

*pokes head into thread*
Man, ya miss a lot when ya take a nap

Is not Sonja in particular, she only gets it because she was the last character that was "revealed" , people are freaking out because, with each reveal, the chances of their favourite getting in become slimmer. If it was another MK9/trilogy character it would be the same thing, people tend to channel their anger towards the characters they deem less worthy of being playable in comparison to their preferences. Taking the disapproval of Sonja too personal and trying to justify her inclusion is a waste of time because is not the real issue. It happens every time.

Even though I don't agree with the way some user are expressing their discontent I can't see how people can't understand where they're coming from. This should be all too familiar to most of us.

I agree. I so heartedly agree with you.

Kitana and Kung Lao are two great examples of this. At the time before the stream, we had absolutely nothing to talk about, or just a little, but we knew nothing as to why we're here. People immediately jumped to the conclusion that they're retconned and that we need to ignore everything that happened to them in the past. The problem is that they jumped, which is something I am begging for people to stop doing. Why? Why can't people just wait to get the info rather than trying to explain through theories that are most likely false or just out of pure hatred? I can't comprehend how people do this and it's aggravating me because it's not just this site that does that.

What's interesting about Sonya's character is that this character has been known to be in this game for months. Whether people want to deny this is true or not, she's in the game. There's nothing anyone can do about it. Those who don't believe me or anyone else that is saying this, I demand you look through all the old interviews with Boon, mainly around the E3 time, and listen, very carefully. Go to the Kombat Tether's page and read through their interviews with Boon and the other developers. The proof is right there. So why this character is getting all this bullshit, whether it's from the idiotic dumbbell who got account #3 banned or from any other hater, is completely beyond me. I say that because everyone's sitting here already knowing what her character is like when there's nothing to go off of.

Man, if Sheeva was to be next, I'd hate to know how this community would act.

Tbh I'm mostly here for her in that fly beret. Sonya isn't shocking because Cassie has almost none of her moves, they weren't going to have that iconic leg grab just fade into oblivion.

Haha, that's actually funny because as someone that wore a beret (until they allowed us to wear PCs...thank goodness for that) in a former life with the US Army I have to say her beret is god awful. She looks like she's going to go make a pizza or something.

Aside from that I have no issues with Sonya.

Wish we could get Boon to comment on her...

Is this Sonya or Chris Jericho? Dang.

To me, she looks a lot like Maja Ivarsson (from The Sounds).

Where did you get the idea that Cassie was supposed to replace Sonya and Johnny? No one ever said that. They're just talking about a new generation being introduced, NOT replacing the old favourites. Boon and co. have enough experience with abandoning old favourites to not go down that route again.

As for Cassie, she DOES have new moves. What are you referring to? She has superficial similarities with her parents, very deliberately, because they want to show how our two favourites have influenced our daughter. That doesn't copy Sonya or Johnny, it doesn't make them redundant.... because from what I can see, Cassie doesn't play AT ALL, in the slightest, play like her parents.

Watch her gameplay videos.... when did Sonya play like that? If we're all interested purely in gameplay, there's nothing in there that looks like Sonya. Not her military stance, not her awesome arc kick (or classic bicycles).... The closest thing Cassie has to her mum is her cartwheel kick, but that looks different, plays different and is a fundamentally new move.
The exact thing applies to Johnny as well. There's just nothing there that's the same.

What's more, having all three (or two, if that's the case) allows for interesting story-telling. Families are relatable, can raise the stakes, can give us emotional or thematic impact as this story spans the 25 years. Particularly since Sonya and Johnny were the last mortals standing, it's critical they appear.


People can have their opinions on Sonya and Johnny, and wish their spots were filled by others...sure. Go for it. But let's be honest: they're not taking up anything. If they are, then so is Sub Zero, and Raiden, and Kung Lao, and Kitana, and Ermac.
If you want more 3D characters, go ahead, but apply your rage evenly. Justifications like 'but Cassie's in it' fall flat if you think about it for more than the two seconds it goes to internet rage.

And, if it still annoys you, I have to agree with earlier posters: have a cry, post your opinion, and then get the hell over it.

I don't like Quan Chi in the slightest. Not as a character, not as a playable character, not in design or story or presentation. But I'm not raging because he was announced before any of my favourites, or because he might stop some of my 3D faves from appearing. If you don't like Sonya, great! Much like the wankers who whine about tv violence or rudeneess, you have a really good option: just turn it off. Don't play as her.
I don't understand this internet forum inanity to rage about content that's just not your forte. It's not like when you have a legitimate gripe like "the design is shoddy" or "the gameplays broken" or "the story is messy"... It's pure petulance.
"I don't like Sonya, so anything tod ow ith her is inherently bad and everyone else has to listen to it".

Apply the exact same to any other character. Sub, Kitana, Ermac, whatever, whoever, however.




This thread has compelled me to actually sign in for the first time in years - not even the reveal of Sonya itself made me do that, but the silliness that's ensued. Rant over.

Whoops, logged into wrong account. Haha :)

LOL
Sonya looks like dyke! A very ugly dyke!

Amen to that! That's what i've been saying the whole time! Cassie is not a Sonya replacement, seeing how she doesn't have her signature moves. And i've also said this several times, but it's obvious WHY Cassie doesn't have the leg grab, energy rings or kiss of death, maybe Sonya wasn't going to be playable this time, but they gave Cassie new moves because she isn't a Sonya replacement, and there was always going to be the next game for Sonya to be playable.

I agree with what ProfesserAhnka said on the first page. Cassie even more so in that pic.

Possibly the best post I've ever read on this site.

Where do you get off saying people are fake fans due to their own actions and opinions of the game? Whether they get it or not because their favorite character is in does not make them a "fake fan". If they don't like the game due to their own personal preferences, then let them be, they are still as much as a fan as the next guy.

They are fake fans. They aren't fans of the series 'Mortal Kombat', but fans of their favourite characters. You not buying the game because your favorite isn't in the game reflects that you're not an MK fan, but rather a fan of that character. Understand?

You're right. No one can tell others they're 'fake fans' because of disagreements. That's no-true-scotsman silliness.


BUT I can safely say that if someone is so petty that they'd declare they're not going to buy the game because Sonya and Jax are in it (as a certain other thread suggests).... then they are definitely BAD fans. Selfish, myopic, greedy and petulant :P

No one is going to like every single part of a fighting game. They're just too complicated. So to freak out over one or two characters is nonsense. You might be a fan, but they go about showing it in odd ways.

They're not "fake" fans. They're just "character" fans.

They'll only get the game if their character is in it, nothing more, nothing less. As long as their particular character is in the game, they'll get it. If not, they'll announce to a bunch of random people that really don't care at all that they're not getting it.

Then, a bunch of people will sit here and be rude, while others are laughing, while the last percentage of them will just not care.

They're still fans of Mortal Kombat, but they're not a fan of the series, just its character(s).

What if thats cassie cages alt costume and sonya is killed, cassie takes the mothers ring and becomes the head of the special forces unit.

It very well could be, but most of us seem to think the character model is too different from Cassie to be the same person. And the outfit looks just like Sonya's comic appearance.