I tend to think of Mokap as a sort of "mascot character" for Mortal Kombat. Not a signature character like Sub Zero and Scorpion are for MK or Ken or Ryu is for SF, but I compare him to a sort of joke character like Mokujin or Panda from Tekken.

That said, I don't see that character being necessary in MK at all. It was kind of funny as a one off, but let's be honest... When we find out news about a new character, would ANYONE be psyched to see that the new character is one of these types of mascot characters? Mokap? Meat? etc...

No.

Therefore...

VERDICT: GONE.

STAY as a secret joke/victim character, somebody that gets killed in a funny way every game as comic relief.

Haha, some of these posts are hilarious. You never know, he could canonically be as good a fighter as Johnny Cage. He obviously has Cage's respect, and that's not an easy thing to earn...

Yeah, he's gone. I feel sorry for the poor guy. Not like he actually deserved to be a proper character, but just sorry for him that he...exists. I don't think that's what the MK Team should be going for with their characters. Part of me would like to give him a role as a model you beat up in practice mode (you could even call it "Kill Mokap"), but even that could be done better by other characters.

I agree with this whole heartedly. I'd have no problem at all with seeing Mokap as the practice dummy or kombo challenge dummy. None whatsoever.

Of course, by this logic though, I still don't see him as a "character." He doesn't need or deserve a story and unlike Tekken with Mokujin, I wouldn't even make Mokap selectable. I mean, what's the point?

I mean, sure, maybe if you want to have a character that mimics other characters styles and you don't know who it will be until the round actually starts, but honestly? I almost never use Mokujin (or Dural in Virtua Fighter for that matter).

These types of characters are fun for bragging rights and the whole "I can beat you with anyone" line, so in that sense, sure, maybe try real hard and make Mokap look a bit less dorky and throw him in, but again, I still wouldn't consider him a "character" in the game.

At best he's a training dummy and at worst he'd be a waste of a roster spot.

Ha ha, the big evil mutant smurf. I liked that he was somewhat easy as a sub boss and not blatantly cheap like sub bosses of the past. Yo know, Kintaro being able to throw me out of a jump kick or Motaro simply existing.

Sigh. I just realized who we're debating next...

Anyways, Moloch had a decent look in spite of the mutant smurf crack. He was a big monster with a ball and chain that he used as a weapon. Not bad in my book.

His story was nonexistent, but for what he was, he was done pretty well.

VERDICT: GONE

I honestly don't see any reason to bring him back. His look was okay, but nothing overly memorable. His moves were kinda cool, but again, nothing that really screamed "fun to use" or "innovative" or anything even remotely along those lines.

He was kind of a one off character like most sub bosses should be. I don't hate him, but yeah, no real reason to say he should return either.

Huh... I'm actually kind of surprised how many people I'm bringing back so far. For me: Saved for future MK goodness: 13 (Baraka, Drahmin, Ermac, Fujin, Hotaru, Kabal, Kai, Kano, Kenshi, Kira, Kitana, Kung Lao and Liu Kang)
Sent to the pit of something bad: 25 (well, everyone that's not those 13 above).
Looking back on it, I could easily switch my answers for Baraka, Ermac, Hotaru, Kano and Liu Kang, but I've already committed so I guess I'll just leave them as is

I didn't care for moloch...to an extent he looks cool but thats about it. i say gone.

gone.

Ugh, I really really don't like Moloch, therefore... GONE!

... ... ...

My verdicts so far:

STAY: 19

GONE: 19

I liked Moloch as a sub-boss but I agree he's not gonna go anywhere or amount to anything so its best he goes.

GONE!

Drahmin and Moloch are basically the same character in different bodies, in terms of the purpose they've served - enforcers for Quan Chi. Of the two, Drahmin I find to be more interesting, even if barely capable of plot potential. Unfortunately the same goes for Moloch. He was a good sub-boss, but there's really no reason to bring him back. I'd have someone offer them a position of power, or perhaps a chance to escape their oni forms, requiring ruthlessness in order to be considered. As a result, he and Drahmin could perhaps turn on each other, the loser being eaten. I'd much prefer if Drahmin came out on top in such a hypothetical struggle. He had the benefit of once being a mighty warlord in ancient times, whereas for all we know Moloch's just a particularly nasty oni, more or less. He's served his purpose.

Verdict: GONE.

Well, Moloch was cool as a sub-boss.But I agree with what everyone says, that it doesn't have a purpose in the story at all. If he is going to return in a future game,it will be cool to team him up with Drahmin,kinda like Noob-Smoke in MKD.


VERDICT:Don't really care and don't know!lol

You all are the first people I've ever heard call Moloch an easy sub-boss.

With that said, unless he's gonna be the only big monster type (which means you'd either have to kill all the Shokans/Centaurs or turn one of them good), and he's made a huge threat, he's kinda redundant

I'd like to see it happen though...but they won't do it, so GONE.

He's a cool demon character, but has served his purpose most likely. I say gone.

Moloch: There are cooler sub-bosses, and MK team can make a new sub-boss cooler than moloch.

Verdict: Gone

Moloch has served his purpose. He's done everything he needed to do, but Drahmin has more storyline potential than he does. Drahmin should actually return to the series before Moloch does. And Drahmin should not return.

Verdict: GONE

I should go back and work out what my tallies are. I've forgotten who I voted yay and nay on. I should probably try and be more consistent, haha.

I really liked Moloch in DA when it first came out. His design was very different from the Shokans and Motaro and I particularly enjoyed the little "legend of the Oni-Destroyer" story they did about the owl who carries his ball and chain around and wherever it drops, he's summoned to wreak havoc. There was so much creativity with all that DA concept art and story stuff they released in the weeks leading up to the game...

That said, he was clearly a one-shot sort of character with no future. Some characters just are. There's no shame in being one, if the creators have the good sense to stick to it. Let's hope they've learned that lesson and will never attempt another Trilogy/Armageddon-style game again.

Gone.

OH MY GOD, I missed Mokap!!!

Damn it, I had a whole essay prepared for him! Sigh, I guess I'll just say GONE and move along....


I see no need for Moloch to return. We don't need repeat sub-bosses and including over-powered monster characters isn't that good an idea. The only thing I can see him contributing to the future is to act as a non-playable story-only background character....like Drahmin's bodyguard or something.

Gone.

The big blue baddie from the Netherealm? I'm not sure he needs to come back. He keeps shrinking anyway. I mean, in between MKDA and MKA he lost what, 2 feet at least?
Imagine how small he would be if he was in MK9 at THAT rate!
If he did come back, I would say maybe as a character that you discover as a secret character to fight in order to unlock something. Other than that...

Gone.

Moloch is actually a character that I think would do well with a reboot. They could re-scale the character, redefine some aspects of him, and his Oni-Destroyer gimmick could become something quite charismatic. I'm not in favour of a reboot as anything than a sort of comic/side project, but I think that Moloch is definitely one character that could be reinvented and be improved.

Moloch, the last I remember of him he and Drahmin tossed Scorpion into the Soulnado and that was it. I agree with most of you that we really don't need Moloch around for future games, he was a cool edition to the mythology of the Netherealm as that seems the most mysterious out of the six realms to me, and also has much potential to be explored upon.

If we are to see Moloch in any form of Mortal Kombat I would only include him in a future comic book storyline or novel and explain why he is not in any more Mortal Kombat games, perhaps after the Elder Gods granted Scorpion new abilities, he evened the score with Moloch by putting his Oni head on a steak.

Heh. Sounds good to me.

I liked Moloch in MKDA. Nothing wrong with him, but there's no reason to bring him back. GONE.

Just tallying up everyone that I've voted on to see if I'm a nice guy or an evil bastard.

GONE: 24

Baraka
Blaze
Chameleon
Cyrax
Daegon
Dairu
Darrius
Fujin
Goro
Havik
Hotaru
Hsu Hao
Jarek
Johnny Cage
Kabal
Kai
Kano
Kintaro
Kobra
Liu Kang
Mavado
Meat
Mokap
Moloch

STAY: 11

Ashrah
Drahmin
Ermac
Jade
Kenshi
Khameleon
Kitana
Kira
Kung Lao
Li Mei
Mileena



MAYBE: 3
Bo Rai Cho
Frost
Jax