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Props to MINION
03/07/2015 08:57 PM (UTC)
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maybe raiden killing liu was suppose to be DA incorporated into the story? how things still happen just in a different way

also there is no good vs evil and nopthing else

there's just people with motives
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shaolinmonk12
03/07/2015 09:05 PM (UTC)
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Im fine with the roster.
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Windice
03/07/2015 09:11 PM (UTC)
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Good motives and bad motives
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BecomingDeath13
03/07/2015 09:29 PM (UTC)
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What a read lol. A lot of good insight in this thread.
LeoBrZ81 Wrote:
TigerStyle Wrote:I've always just really liked a few Earthrealm peeps and a couple of Outworld/Edenian folks helping out vs Kahn/Shinnok/Tsung/Onaga. Maybe it's because I'm surrounded by shitty people and in fiction I was always drawn to moralistic conflicts of that clear cut nature because I felt people I knew too often used that "life is morally grey" mantra as an excuse to do generally shitty/selfish things. Not saying everyone does, just it might explain it.


Damn, that's deep.

Yes, people are generally like that, more often than not. But the way I see it, a realistic depiction of that in fiction is a good way of causing society's "mask" to drop. A strong story with morally gray characters (even though there is always some tipping point in morality for the sake of climaxes and resolutions) puts a mirror up to the audience's face, dares to ask how far humans might go to defend or attain, and forces everyone to realize harsh truths and then make a decision about who they want to be based on that, given what they just saw and experienced. Have you ever been ensnared by a really good movie, and at the end, felt compelled to change something about yourself, or wish for something different in your own personal life? Modern storytelling is our biggest weapon in the stimulation of change in mass consciousness.

I do romance a would-be world where, right away, you know what someone is about and what they stand for. You know the big dragon-looking guy is up to no good, the twin with the fangs is likely to be bad company, but the busty blond in army clothing and her spiritualistic Kung-Fu friend will save your day anytime tongue
Shame that we don't live that way; and as such, we have to provoke self-realization and subsequent personal growth, in order to affect the grander world.

I'm derailing... but this is actually a very captivating topic for me; I could and have gone on for hours about this stuff grin Don't let the shitty people get you down, man! You always end up reaping what you sow. Always.


I suppose if I really try to boil it down, I never found highly moralistic, idealistic characters like Kang/Superman/Whoever you want for that category to be boring since I always found it compelling to always do the right thing and take the hard road in life when shit keeps coming your way.

If that shit comes in the form of a half naked man with a skull helmet and hammer then you just turn into a dragon and eat him I guess.

Kang's never been my favorite MK character but I like the idea of him coming back in MKX in the final chapter to save the realms "one last time"(nobody stays dead/retired in this series), despite the messed up nature of what happened to him in MK9 before he takes a backseat to mentor the next generation of heroes. I don't think that will 100% for sure be the ending to the game, someone else will probably take down the villain in the last chapter (Raiden probably), but I think it's more likely than Kang as the final villain.
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Windice
03/07/2015 10:16 PM (UTC)
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I prefer evil characters. People who will step on anyone to get what they want. Someone who doesn't mind torturing people. A person who is sick and twisted. I like this cus I am a good person myself. In real life I'm too nice and sweet so let me play a bad guy. Sadly this game is missing a lot of that.
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03/07/2015 10:34 PM (UTC)
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So my two cents:

I think NRS kinda misses an opportunity with this game if the roster is true.

Regarding Cassie and her parent being in doesn't make seance to me. First of all a child killing his parent or vice versa seems a bit weird even for MK. It's one thing for Kitana and Sindel be doing it because story wise they often stand on opposing sides. But for a parent who calls his daughter his little princess to kill his princess seems a bit ugh.

Regarding other descendants: it's seems weird that the next generation of good guys are only children/relatives of people who already fought in Mortal Kombat. Why not completely new people. Or better yet an admirer of one of the fighters, who looks to be like one of the legendary fighters.

This brings me to the issue of all new non-human characters seem to be only new people. Where are the bad guys descendants? Especially considering most evil guys live thousands of years. They probably had lots of chances to leave offspring. You might say Kotal in next generation, but he is not related to anybody from the past so that doesn't count.

Also a lot of MK4-MKA characters were kind of the new generation. For example although Kai, although had his own unique fighting style, he could have been re-purposed to be Liu Kang of MKX. Especially with the 3 variation system.

Basically I feel NRS missed such an amazing opportunity to reinvent 3D era characters. Look what they did with Stryker. With the same talent I'm pretty sure they could have made even Hsu Hao a good enough character.
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KenshiMaster16
03/07/2015 10:38 PM (UTC)
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I don't really have anything else to add besides my rant on page 2 but just thought I'd note how interesting it is to see how divided the community is over the roster. Whether or not NRS feels they got it right or not, I think they know (if they've been reading various forums/tweets) they are going to have to knock the DLC out of the park on this one.
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03/07/2015 10:42 PM (UTC)
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I am not going to be happy until they fill the roster with the following list of characters. This game will be awful unless Boon listens to my personal suggestions, stop game development, and accommodate just me.

Bo Rai Cho
Zombie Liu Kang
Shoujinko
Rain
Darrius
Kobra
Meat
Stryker
Mokap
2 Legged Motaro

Thank you ScrewAttack for the helpful list.
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Thatoneguy
03/07/2015 10:46 PM (UTC)
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I want Rain in.
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Sex is Evil, Evil is Sin, Sin is forgiven, so Sex is in.

I kill people for a living. Get over it.

03/07/2015 11:08 PM (UTC)
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BADASS6669 Wrote:
This looks like what we are getting via leaks and the Comic



((((((SPOILER))))))


























1 Scorpion
2 Subzero
3 Reptile
4 Ermac
5 Kitana
6 Mileena
7 Kung Lao
8 Sonya
9 J. Cage
10 Jax
11 Quan Chi
12 Kenshi
13 Raiden
14 Kano
15 Shinnok
16 Kotal Kahn
17 Ferra/Torr
18 D'Vorah
19 Takeda
20 Jacqueline
21 Cassie Cage
22 Kung Jin
23 Erron Black/Salazar
24 Liu Kang
25 Goro
26 Rieko

I'm not mad about it but we need an official thread to compile all of the Roster Threads

My 2 Cents NRS went safe with this Roster.

I'd rather have Havik, Bo Rai Cho & Tanya then Jacqueline, Jax & Insert Dead Character name here.



Got info from a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy(Oh wait I'm that guy and these are my predictions)

Guest: Predator and Spawn
Classic: Shao Kahn and Shang Tsung
Unlockable in Game: Havik, Rain, Rieko & Bo Rai Cho
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mentalbreakdown
03/08/2015 03:55 PM (UTC)
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Sad I haven't seen any Tanya yet. Happy I have Mileena, Kitana, and now: Cassie, Jacqui, and D'Vorah to play. Sad I haven't seen more 3D era characters, though.

I would like less MK9 characters, but they're probably gonna be relevant to the story. I doubt NRS is going to be that stupid now that they're under WB. I mean, they finally redeemed themselves with MK9 and I don't think they'd want to go down another downhill spiral they did before. Not to mention WB is a very smart and successful company -- so NRS is under good hands.

But all my gripes can go down the drain because I've always played the MK series for the gameplay and tournaments. With the story as an added bonus.
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barakall
03/08/2015 04:26 PM (UTC)
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LOL @ people wanting Mokap, that's just beyond ridiculous. Shujinko is one thing, but Mokap, it's an actual human motion capturing the movements for games...

Anyways, while I was a bit mad at the leaked roster being true at first, then actually liking it, I'm leaning towards feeling like NRS missed a huge opportunity with this game if that roster is true. That opportunity is to blow people away by creating some great evil characters with the bonus of evening things out.

If the leaked roster had potentially 2 slots left, I sincerely hope it will be in the lines of Baraka, Havik, maybe Rain / Reiko or maybe even that Fox with his face cut off. I don't understand how every single new character is in, except that one. At first he was just a ninja with the lamest name possible, but with his face cut off, he sure would've made an interesting one!

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Lazio? La prima squadra della Capitale.

03/08/2015 06:37 PM (UTC)
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barakall Wrote:
LOL @ people wanting Mokap, that's just beyond ridiculous. Shujinko is one thing, but Mokap, it's an actual human motion capturing the movements for games...


I am pretty sure that was sarcasm aimed at the people that hate the roster based on personal character choices.
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KenshiMaster16
03/09/2015 12:38 AM (UTC)
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@brodrican925: @noobde I saw the ROSTER BTW. Is that really it? EB: Yup! Thata39;s it! The one you saw!

— Ed Boon (@noobde) March 9, 2015

Forever a tease.
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Trini_Bwoi
03/09/2015 02:37 AM (UTC)
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KenshiMaster16 Wrote:

@brodrican925: @noobde I saw the ROSTER BTW. Is that really it? EB: Yup! Thata39;s it! The one you saw!

— Ed Boon (@noobde) March 9, 2015


Forever a tease.


This gives me hope =|
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Voodoo_Priest
03/09/2015 03:00 AM (UTC)
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Fuck this bullshit. Give me Shang.
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FUCK_KILLSWITCH
03/09/2015 03:22 AM (UTC)
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Voodoo_Priest Wrote:
Fuck this bullshit. Give me Shang.


FUCK KILLSWITCH AND FUCK THESE FORUMS
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03/09/2015 05:38 AM (UTC)
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KenshiMaster16 Wrote:

@brodrican925: @noobde I saw the ROSTER BTW. Is that really it? EB: Yup! Thata39;s it! The one you saw!

— Ed Boon (@noobde) March 9, 2015


Forever a tease.


I feel like this is more ridiculing the fact that the dude is referring to "some roster" he saw, as if Boon would know exactly what and which he's talking about. Like, "yeah, I know exactly the one you're talking about, no need to be specific, you're right!"

Not so much a "is it, isn't it" tease...
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KenshiMaster16
03/09/2015 05:49 AM (UTC)
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LeoBrZ81 Wrote:
KenshiMaster16 Wrote:

@brodrican925: @noobde I saw the ROSTER BTW. Is that really it? EB: Yup! Thata39;s it! The one you saw!

— Ed Boon (@noobde) March 9, 2015


Forever a tease.


I feel like this is more ridiculing the fact that the dude is referring to "some roster" he saw, as if Boon would know exactly what and which he's talking about. Like, "yeah, I know exactly the one you're talking about, no need to be specific, you're right!"

Not so much a "is it, isn't it" tease...


Well, I mean to be fair, they have been spammed with the exact same roster list for the past week and a half. lol
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'Your soul is MINE!'

everything crossed for Reiko

03/09/2015 08:33 AM (UTC)
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Until I see the confirmed characters I will always be slightly doubtful of the leaked list. It looks like from Boons tweet he is being sarcastic. I hope he is. There is no need for a playable Kang this time. I may be bitter as I'm not getting my main man Shang Tsung and still hoping beyond hope for Reiko.
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'Your soul is MINE!'

everything crossed for Reiko

03/09/2015 09:07 AM (UTC)
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I know it's probably debunked now but wasn't there a rumor about the guys that leaked correct info on mk9 and injustice leaked that Tanya was supposed to be in the game? And her X-ray was based on her mk4 move where she twisted the neck with her thighs? It was the same leaker who supposedly said Sheeva was deconfirmed and said there was a model of Liu Kang in development? I could be wrong ...
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Windice
03/09/2015 01:00 PM (UTC)
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Ravenbez Wrote:
I know it's probably debunked now but wasn't there a rumor about the guys that leaked correct info on mk9 and injustice leaked that Tanya was supposed to be in the game? And her X-ray was based on her mk4 move where she twisted the neck with her thighs? It was the same leaker who supposedly said Sheeva was deconfirmed and said there was a model of Liu Kang in development? I could be wrong ...


There was so many fake Tanya rumors. It's sad. Like if no one liked her why would so many fake rumors be made for her. One of her x Ray 2 of the voice actress being confirmed and a fake select screen with her on it and I must say she didn't look bad on it.
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