Hmm that's very interesting, didn't really think much of those small clues but you might be on to something.

I just can't wait to see who the main D will be.

Liu Kang seems like the logical choice by all the clues they have given us, but it's almost to easy to guess which makes you question it.

Mileena? No way. I don't see her ever as a boss. Not even Kitana who is a better skilled assassin. Sindel is the only female I could see as the boss.

I hope its Shinnok. He needs to be given a chance. But then again it would be too obvious based on the ending of MK9.

God dam you NRS! haha

I'm shocked NRS was creative and got some initiative to have the characters speak in mk9, before that they were like mario characters repeating one line of gibberish over and over.

It won't be Liu Kang as the final boss, only because it would be way too predictable. Mileena? Not a chance in hell.

However...has Havik himself really done all that much to warrant being the Big Boss of the latest MK game?

I have to assume that people who say Mileena will be the final boss are trolling. like, seriously, what is the basis for this? Because she hasn't been revealed yet? That's probably because she is next in line in terms of reveal or at the very least she will make a cameo or be a DLC, but why the fuck would she be the final boss??

I'm still sticking with Liu just because Boon's hint was meant for casual gamers, and unlike us who over-analyze this franchise, THEY would probably be totally blindsided by it.

He(Havik) has the potential alone to warrant it. And having a non-Outworld, non-Netherrealm boss would be incredibly fresh for the series IMo.

As for Liu Kang...how many freaking times does it have to be pointed out that Liu as the boss is only a surprise to hardcore MK fans? To casual gamers him as the boss WOULD be a twist.

No need to get worked up. Anyway, I don't see his being the end boss having much of an impact among even the majority of casual gamers, especially those who actually slogged through the story mode. "Casual" usually indicates they are not totally familiar with the MK series and its massive storyline as a whole. They'd certainly go more apeshit were Scorpion the final boss instead.



I agree.

I'm starting to feel that way too. An upgraded unplayable version with a shit ton of moves of playable characters past/present. Why not.

Why Shujinko?

Even if he is the main antagonist and doesn't realize he's resurrecting Onaga, that'd be impossible!

Let's look at this rationally, shall we? Something that is rarely done here, just sayin'...

Boon said it would be a surprise, so that excludes Shang Tsung, Kahn, Quan Chi and Shinnok on the basis of being too obvious. Unless it's something uber retarded like Zombie-Kahn.

Can't really be someone who's already been revealed as playable either i.e. Raiden, because that would be such a cop out.

Don't even get me started on MK4-Deception characters. No casual gamer in their right mind would accept one of them as the main boss. They wouldn't think "OMG! Shujinko's story arc has finally come full circle!!" But rather" Why is this random old fart the final boss?"

So that basically leaves a classic character who hasn't been revealed yet and a corrupted Liu or Cage seems like they would be the most likely as it fits the "suprise" component. Again, for casual gamers, not us hardcore fans.

Sindel would actually make sense based on how ridiculously powerful she was in the MK9 story mode, but even in 2015 I think people are still too sexist to accept a woman as the main antagonist.

I feel like we should place bets on this and get some rewards or whatnot. This definitely is fun to figure out.

I remember Boon saying he wish he wouldn't of made Shinnok playable in mk4, do you think the Big Bad in this game will be playable?

Hope the big bad isn't playable as well as the sub-boss under him. It takes the fun out of the two if they are playable. The sub sub-boss could be playable though, if there is one. Imo.

SO - I hadn't said it and been thinking it.
Sindel and/or Nightwolf as the big bad with possible Shang Tsung influence. They blasted away together. Shang Tsung's power/being was within Sindel at the time.

Sindel and Nightwolf are transported to another time/place fall in love IDK... something riduculous. Maybe fuse as one.

I thought of an Uber Sindel as the big bad.

outside of that I thought of King Jerrod.

My top 3 most likely:

1. Shinnok
2. Liu Kang
(Wild Card) Noob Saibot/Bi Han

Shinnok or Quan Chi. If Quan Chi, he'll be gone for a while maybe finally completing a villain arc for him finally other than just scheming and staying two steps ahead forever.

Evil Liu Kang would be way too cliche and predictable for them. They just did a game with the ultimate good guy as a villain.

Bi-Han would be a wildcard if he bitchslapped Quan Chi and stole Shinnok's chain again.

Liu Kang



It may be cliched, but it would be a natural progression for the character, especially after what happened in the previous game.

I don't think it would be a natural progression. It'd be shock value for the sake of it, Liu's pretty level headed and he'd see that Raiden did fuck up but ultimately prevented Armageddon and tried. Yeah he wouldn't want to work with Raiden but Liu Kang would have absolutely no good reason to come back as a petty asshole looking to hurt anyone who isn't threatening Earthrealm like Shinnok or Kahn, unless he's possessed or cursed. It'd be like a child throwing a tantrum if he was doing it of his own free will. I think if anything they'll tease it but it won't happen and Liu will just wind up as a mentor to the newer cast of heroes. He and the dead people he cared about would have eventually been rescued by Raiden and the heroes eventually anyway.

I see what your saying but think about how resentful Liu Kang was towards Raiden prior to being fried. Don't mean to speak for a fictional character, but Liu Kang seems to be the type that doesn't mind sacrificing himself to save Earthrealm, but what pissed him so much was Raiden's decision making resulting in the deaths of SO MANY of the good guys and his friends..."their deaths achieved nothing."

I have no idea what NRS has planned so everything we're all saying is speculation, but I'd like to think that because there is still bitterness from Liu Kang by the reckless deaths from Raiden, plus that Liu Kang may be corrupted also from an outside source or from his death, that Liu Kang feels he may be a better protector of Earthrealm than Raiden and would want to oust from that position.



Allow me to explain my wild card choice of Bi Han, he has alot of knowledge and history with Shinnok, Quan Chi and Raiden. Bi Han has been corrupted and was resurrected to serve Quan Chi as a wraith (Noob Saibot), now who knows what happens when Nightwolf kicked Bi Han in that soulnado but I continue to doubt, unlike many here in the forums, that the soulnado somehow "purified" him. I think if anything, it freed him from serving any further masters (Lin Kuei before, Shinnok and Quan Chi as the last), and if both are out of the picture, Bi Han makes his own path, learning from the failures of the others, to do his evil deeds. He knows what the amulet looks like, since he's stolen several times both from the elder gods and from Shinnok.

Just fun speculating.

I think that's solid reasoning with Bi-Han but I don't think they'd use Noob Saibot as a boss character for some reason, just a feeling I get.

As far as Liu I think given the circumstances and having time to think it over, he'd not be evil for any reason unless cursed or possessed by a kamidogu. I can't think of a reason why he'd be evil without one of those two things.

Something new, or Shinnok.

I hope you're right because for a while I've liked the idea of any of the secondary villains becoming the main threat for a game or two. Noob Saibot, Reptile, Mileena, hell, even Baraka.

The cool thing is if Noob Saibot became a main villain they could have several main characters fight him at once through his shadows without one of them really being the main hero if they didn't want to retread that.

Now if Armageddon was concluded and the MK canon continued from that, NRS would have not only made a Dark Raiden a new threat, but also a badass Noob Saibot as a surprise boss because this motherfucker has been with us from the very beginning as Bi-Han and turned to Noob, hiding in the shadows from MK2 built up to that point where he culd pop out and say, "HAHA I took over the Netherrealm from Shitlock and Troll Chi plus I'm leading a demon army to kill all of you while I was standing in plain sight through the MK canon!" In this new timeline, I wouldn't mind a dual Noob/Havik boss participating in invasions from Chaosrealm was noted in the Factions trailer plus that interesting MK9 Noob ending might infer such a possibility.

I really liked the reboot but sometimes I wonder what it would've been like if MK9 was a continuation of Armageddon that just happened to focus on the trilogy era characters.

That'd be getting away from the point of the thread though. Noob Saibot has always done shit behind Quan Chi's back, and he whooped his ass while he was just human. I hope the servant shit from MK9 was an act on his part.

At this point, hoping for a player who has not been even hinted at is just silly.
I would say Quan Chi would be possible, but being playable from the start suggests otherwise. So that means it's between: Shinnok and Liu Kang.