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moneyguy
03/20/2015 06:41 PM (UTC)
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KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
The problem is, he's said he doesn't have the game, he only gets sent info so technically he has no proof to give.
It's fine that you guys don't believe him, probably the most safe bet at this point, but there's still one problem I have;


It is every ones choice on what they choose to believe or not believe. Until we have proof, it is realistic that there would be skeptics especially when some of the things he has said do not correlate with what we believe we know.

I do not agree with the later statement that he is the most safe bet. As disappointed as I would be if his 'leak' turned out to be true, this 'leak' is the same as any other 'leak' we have seen at this point.
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03/20/2015 06:42 PM (UTC)
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moneyguy Wrote:
KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
The problem is, he's said he doesn't have the game, he only gets sent info so technically he has no proof to give.
>It's fine that you guys don't believe him, probably the most safe bet at this point, but there's still one problem I have;


It is every ones choice on what choose to believe or not believe. Until we have proof, it is realistic that there would be skeptics especially when some of the things he has said do not correlate with what we believe we know.

I do not agree with the later statement that he is the most safe bet. As disappointed as I would be if his 'leak' turned out to be true, this 'leak' is the same as any other 'leak' we have seen at this point.


I said choosing to not believe him is the safest bet. tongue I'm not really a safe person though, my hype gets the best of me. lol
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moneyguy
03/20/2015 06:52 PM (UTC)
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Sorry I was reading so fast I misread. Any who I hope the leak is false. Rooting for the MK4 era characters until the game is released.
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KenshiMaster16
03/20/2015 06:54 PM (UTC)
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moneyguy Wrote:
Rooting for the MK4 era characters until the game is released.


You and me both, buddy. You and me both.
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Sockie
03/20/2015 07:10 PM (UTC)
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He moved to 4Chan because he literally was unable to post another topic on GF. He moved from 4Chan because someone decided to hijack his topic, steal his OP title and parade around as him for three hours spreading even more BS. If you don't believe it, go look for yourself. You can obviously see when the change happens because the dude starts contradicting everything that was said in the original post by saying people like Sindel are playable, thus why he went to Twitter. That alone isn't what should make him shady, if anything does at all.

Also, on the DLC front, do you really honestly believe they only have 2 actual MK characters planned as DLC? Please, don't make me laugh. They're being coy because that's what they do about everything. That's why they're still being coy despite us die-hards knowing the full roster for over a month now. That's their job. They've been making and planning this game since 2012/2013, they KNOW who all the DLC characters are going to be and probably have known for quite some time now.

Finally, if this line is what you're reffering to; "fallen Shokan Prince, Goro, whom had been killed by a mutiny led by Kintaro." I took that as just referring to Kintaro leading the charge of battle, not necessarily masterminding it, thus Kintaro being responsible for his death. I think you're reaching just to prove this guy a fraud. What's it really matter anyway? People will believe what they want anyway, and this guy has already had a ton of lucky guesses if that's what they truly are because as JAX pointed out earlier, it's funny he posted about a camo skin yet none of us eagle-eyed members here caught that originally (that I'm aware of). None of this is even gonna matter in two weeks anyway because he's either going to be proven correct or false and the world will keep spinning. No one will ultimately give two shits if he was wrong or right by then because we'll have the game or the whole thing will have been leaked.


I'm saying the moving around itself shows he wants attention; I'm sure he could have just posted all that info in the same topic he made to being with. In that 4chan thread, he just kept posting more and more info as more people posted. If he's being given it by someone else, why didn't he post it all in the OP to begin with?

And you're willing to believe a random stranger on the internet over what NRS people have said? Now THAT'S laughable. If they had more planned, why wouldn't they just include them in the Kombat Pack again?

And Gorbak's still the one masterminding it why, why the hell would he have his own son killed? This is nothing more than the guy making incomplete assumptions off of some stuff he's read. Also, how am I reaching when there's more and more evidence pointing at him being fake? You yourself are reaching so hard to defend this guy, with your best defense being "we don't know the full story." Well, this guy's clearly trying to tell us the full story. And failing at it. "What's it really matter anyway?" Well, you say you like these topics because they produce discussion, so here's your discussion. smile I just don't think these kinds of text leaks should be believed so easily and defended so much by people, especially when we're so close to getting actual leaks from people who actually have the game.

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moneyguy Wrote:
KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
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So until this guy provides evidence of his "leak" shouldn't every error or questionable thing he says be looked at with some degree of skepticism? He isn't making small claims here.

In my head I honestly do not believe NRS is going to make Shinnok the only day one playable of the MK4 characters. That is a serious red flag to me.


The problem is, he's said he doesn't have the game, he only gets sent info so technically he has no proof to give.

It's fine that you guys don't believe him, probably the most safe bet at this point, but there's still one problem I have; NRS have been quick to debunk quite a few people over the past several months, yet have said nothing what-so-ever about this guy. That's the thing that keeps nagging at me about this. Boon and Co have had no prob at all saying people are full of shit but they keep quiet about this particular person. So either he's correct or he has a lot of correct nuggets of info littered through shit because I'm fairly certain once those bio's hit, the NRS guys got littered with twitter questions about it so it's highly unlikely they didn't see them.


This logic doesn't work because there are dozens and dozens of supposed leaks that no one at NRS has commented on. That doesn't mean they're all real. Hell, companies try NOT to talk about rumours and stuff; they never said anything about Gamestop's remarks on Shang Tsung and such, and Boon's only commented on a couple of "leaks."
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03/20/2015 07:11 PM (UTC)
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Nobody has pointed out that any differences the bios have with the comics can be addressed by these:

-Boon and Co. don't try very hard when it comes to continuity.

-The comics are connected to the game in broad-strokes. Just look at Rain being toasted.

-The bios might have info from subplots that were dropped, or restricted to Arcade Mode (see Sonya's dead father).

And the DLC choices are fitting. We have two MK4 characters, both of whom are one of the better received characters with special attention from Boon, if not NRS at large. We have Smoke, a damn popular and highly recurring character who can be retooled. And Li Mei, the most recurring of the DA-Armageddon characters after Kenshi.
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03/20/2015 07:12 PM (UTC)
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Another reason this is bullshit: all his arenas are either confirmed, seen in trailers or in the latest achievement leaks. There already some clear omissions: the training arena at Special Forces hq, the other Special forces arena (faction background) and I believe another was seen that is not in that list. Then there is the likelihood of other arenas making it, like where the fight between Kotal and Mileena takes place in Outworld.
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03/20/2015 07:17 PM (UTC)
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Kaber Wrote:
Nobody has pointed out that any differences the bios have with the comics can be addressed by these:

-Boon and Co. don't try very hard when it comes to continuity.

-The comics are connected to the game in broad-strokes. Just look at Rain being toasted.

-The bios might have info from subplots that were dropped, or restricted to Arcade Mode (see Sonya's dead father).

And the DLC choices are fitting. We have two MK4 characters, both of whom are one of the better received characters with special attention from Boon, if not NRS at large. We have Smoke, a damn popular and highly recurring character who can be retooled. And Li Mei, the most recurring of the DA-Armageddon characters.


1. Kotal being the last member of his race in one place and not in another is a pretty damn big mistake that I don't think can just be handwaved away with "lol continuity."

2. Except that those bios are mentioning stuff specifically from the comics like Kenshi's grudge against Daegon and Cassie and Jacqui's being kidnapped. I can tell you right now the latter situation is not going to be referenced at all in the game; how could Jacqui even enlist in Johnny's unit after when she was still a teen and in training camp? Also Rain was confirmed to not have been killed there, it's not just "broad strokes" at all.
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03/20/2015 07:24 PM (UTC)
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I heard they're givin Scorpion costume from INJUSTICE, theres no mention of it here
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03/20/2015 07:25 PM (UTC)
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Asesino Wrote:
I heard they're givin Scorpion costume from INJUSTICE, theres no mention of it here


Because it's a mobile unlock.
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03/20/2015 07:43 PM (UTC)
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So I just have a question. What clues have alluded to Liu Kang being in the game? I haven't read the comics or kept up with the leaks. Is there something I missed? Or do people just want Liu Kang to be in the game?
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03/20/2015 07:46 PM (UTC)
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This here is the biggest hint for Liu kang. Red Headband & same hand prayer

http://i.imgur.com/QA9fO1T.jpg
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03/20/2015 07:55 PM (UTC)
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This here is the biggest hint for Liu kang. Red Headband & same hand prayer

http://i.imgur.com/QA9fO1T.jpg


Ahh, I can see that now. Thanks for the info.

I guess I'd be okay with this if they did it right. Then again, I would be okay with anything if they did it right lol.
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03/20/2015 10:22 PM (UTC)
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Sockie Wrote:
I'm saying the moving around itself shows he wants attention; I'm sure he could have just posted all that info in the same topic he made to being with. In that 4chan thread, he just kept posting more and more info as more people posted. If he's being given it by someone else, why didn't he post it all in the OP to begin with?

And you're willing to believe a random stranger on the internet over what NRS people have said? Now THAT'S laughable. If they had more planned, why wouldn't they just include them in the Kombat Pack again?


You really didn't read this thread, did you?

1) I said multiple times he posts the info as he receives it, meaning he doesn't get it all at once, he's sent them from his "source," which I'm assuming is a batch of info at a time. Take that as you will.

2) That guy only responded on 4chan for 10-15 minutes and then someone stole his identity and began posting fake shit pretending to be him. 80% of the crap on that 4chan page is not even him to begin with. I posted everything legit he said on page 3 before the hijack occurred. You can even see on the page about an hour or so later he gets pissed with the hijacker and someone else even brings up his twitter handle to confront the hijacker.

3) If you really wanna believe they come up with the DLC characters this late in the game, then sure, that's you. However, I'd go back at look at MK9's production schedule. Skarlet and Kenshi were leaked incredibly early in a magazine compared to when they were originally going to be revealed. They know who they want as DLC and they're already picked. After how successful both MK9 and Injustice were, and the fact we have 2 guests instead of 1, it's quite obvious to my eyes since this IS a Mortal Kombat game, they are fully planning on supporting the game with more than just 2 MK characters as DLC. To not plan that is ludicrous.

As to why they are not included in the Kombat Pack, that's business for you. It's $30 for 4 characters and skins. Adding 2 extra in there is practically unheard of in the gaming industry and would be them practically giving the extra characters away considering the prime cost of a character for a fighting game is about $5 dollars. Even then, you're still not accounting for the price of DLC skins so you can easily see how the prices do not add up.
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03/20/2015 11:11 PM (UTC)
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KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
Sockie Wrote:
I'm saying the moving around itself shows he wants attention; I'm sure he could have just posted all that info in the same topic he made to being with. In that 4chan thread, he just kept posting more and more info as more people posted. If he's being given it by someone else, why didn't he post it all in the OP to begin with?

And you're willing to believe a random stranger on the internet over what NRS people have said? Now THAT'S laughable. If they had more planned, why wouldn't they just include them in the Kombat Pack again?


You really didn't read this thread, did you?

1) I said multiple times he posts the info as he receives it, meaning he doesn't get it all at once, he's sent them from his "source," which I'm assuming is a batch of info at a time. Take that as you will.

2) That guy only responded on 4chan for 10-15 minutes and then someone stole his identity and began posting fake shit pretending to be him. 80% of the crap on that 4chan page is not even him to begin with. I posted everything legit he said on page 3 before the hijack occurred. You can even see on the page about an hour or so later he gets pissed with the hijacker and someone else even brings up his twitter handle to confront the hijacker.

3) If you really wanna believe they come up with the DLC characters this late in the game, then sure, that's you. However, I'd go back at look at MK9's production schedule. Skarlet and Kenshi were leaked incredibly early in a magazine compared to when they were originally going to be revealed. They know who they want as DLC and they're already picked. After how successful both MK9 and Injustice were, and the fact we have 2 guests instead of 1, it's quite obvious to my eyes since this IS a Mortal Kombat game, they are fully planning on supporting the game with more than just 2 MK characters as DLC. To not plan that is ludicrous.

As to why they are not included in the Kombat Pack, that's business for you. It's $30 for 4 characters and skins. Adding 2 extra in there is practically unheard of in the gaming industry and would be them practically giving the extra characters away considering the prime cost of a character for a fighting game is about $5 dollars. Even then, you're still not accounting for the price of DLC skins so you can easily see how the prices do not add up.


Sigh... yes, I did. You, on the other hand, didn't really get what I was saying at all. I was talking about all of the info he posted in those 15 minutes on 4chan. He kept adding more as more people replied; why didn't he post all of the info you gathered in that earlier post all at once? I find it hard to believe he just happened to get more batches in 15 minutes as he was posting.

"If you really wanna believe they come up with the DLC characters this late in the game..." Okay, dude? You remember Martian Manhunter and Zatanna from Injustice? They were unplanned. They only happened because of how well the Injustice DLC sold. Heck, it sounds like NRS wanted to do more after them, but they had to move onto developing MKX. (which makes it all the less likely we're going to get a whole lot of other characters in there for DLC, they're going to have start work on their next game before too long) So yes, I do "really wanna believe" that they'll come up with DLC characters this late because they've already done so before. I remember when people were calling the roster that we're getting now to be "ludicrous", too. NRS doesn't always do the things you want it to.

BTW, how could a guy in Germany know about DLC characters that are, at the very most, just pictures on a drawing board in Chicago at this point? They're still working on the first wave, for Pete's sake, there's no way they have anything done for any future ones even if they have ideas for some. It's about believable as that guy who says his cousin noted everything a drunk friend from NRS said. Even those people claiming Tremor and Tanya are the Kombat Pack characters haven't tried to claim they know anything about stuff afterwards.
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03/21/2015 12:17 AM (UTC)
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OH my fucking god! Subzero has his DECEPTION costume?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
I almost shat myself when I saw that lol. You know what they say about too good to be true though... Gotta be fake
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03/21/2015 12:26 AM (UTC)
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So is this legit or was the 'leaker' full of shit? I haven't been keeping up with the thread.
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Spider804
03/21/2015 12:40 AM (UTC)
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Times like this I wish they'd released a demo so this shit could be put to bed
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03/21/2015 12:54 AM (UTC)
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Sockie Wrote:
"If you really wanna believe they come up with the DLC characters this late in the game..." Okay, dude? You remember Martian Manhunter and Zatanna from Injustice? They were unplanned. They only happened because of how well the Injustice DLC sold. Heck, it sounds like NRS wanted to do more after them, but they had to move onto developing MKX. (which makes it all the less likely we're going to get a whole lot of other characters in there for DLC, they're going to have start work on their next game before too long) So yes, I do "really wanna believe" that they'll come up with DLC characters this late because they've already done so before. I remember when people were calling the roster that we're getting now to be "ludicrous", too. NRS doesn't always do the things you want it to.


Except the fact it's pretty much the popular, majority opinion here we are and will get 6 characters. As I said, there are 2 guest characters in this pack, it's pretty blatantly obvious we'll be getting more than 2 MK characters and NRS planned it that way from the beginning as to make sure the KP sells well and those of us who want the extra characters can purchase the extras for our MK character needs.

You think how you think, that's fine, I'm just saying it's pretty much a given they know who they're picking. You know, they can pick who they want before starting development on them. It's called planning. But I'm done going back and forth, it's pointless. There will be 6 DLC characters. I don't need a leak or NRS to tell me that because NRS are stubborn about their reveals, the same reason they kept teasing Mileena despite everyone and their brother knowing of her inclusion for a month or so ahead of time. Common sense beats out NRS's reveal schedule majority of the time.
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03/21/2015 02:27 AM (UTC)
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Roster was fake. Tremor is playable.

Gamefaqs bios didn't match the leaks from Amazon.

Don't believe anything you read on 4Chan. Ever.

Also, since the Injustice DLC sold so well, why would NRS include all those skins on disc? That makes no sense to me.

And saying there are 6 DLC planned doesn't make sense either since NRS are working on the Kombat Pack. Most likely, if stuff continues to sell, we'll see a second Kombat Pack where Spawn will appear.

I also don't believe that Frost is going to be playable when we have three Sub-Zero variations.

Kombat Pack 2 is probably

Spawn
Li Mei
Baraka
Fujin

I did have legit spoilers back in 2011 because I knew one of the devs. I have none now. It's all speculation but based on what we know, this leak is fake.
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Don't believe anything you read on 4Chan. Ever.


To be fair, while at lot of leaks are obviously bullshit, there are a good deal of leaks that originate from 4chan that are eventually proven to be correct. MKX has had a lot of bullshit ones obviously, but many leaks on /co/ wind up being entirely true.
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03/21/2015 02:33 AM (UTC)
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Roster was fake. Tremor is playable.


Yep, happy this shit can be put to bed now. Off to be excited about Tanya!
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Sockie
03/21/2015 02:34 AM (UTC)
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Yeah, he mentioned nothing about Tremor in his DLC characters tweets, and he was saying on 4chan there that all the skins he listed were unlocked in the Krypt. But we now know that's a lie. This myth just got busted.
I told y'all Shred-Zero and Kung-Fu Lao were too good to be true.
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Dasher10
03/21/2015 02:49 AM (UTC)
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And those were in the original three posts. Original posts contained inaccurate info. We already knew the initial roster. Anyone could figure that Liu Kang would be playable since every other playable fighter from MK1 is in the game.
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