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01/02/2015 07:03 PM (UTC)
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unleash_your_tounge Wrote:
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A fellow Virginian? What are the chances lol


Howdy neighbor! ;)

It's a small world lol.


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So true, especially around here. I cant even go to the gas station or go dump the trash without running into somebody I know or somebody that knows my family lol
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01/02/2015 07:27 PM (UTC)
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They probably return when they defeat Shinnok and Quan Chi in the Story Mode. Didn't anyone think that?


If that's the case, then both of them have to be defeated within the first 5 to (maybe) 10 years in the timeline.

Otherwise, how could Kung Lao age this much?


This! This is what's also bothering me. Which is weird because I care more about gameplay than story. I can't shake the feeling of some quick cheap writing is gonna be thrown in just to revive characters.
Like a quick shit version of Dragon Ball Z and Quan Chi is both the Star Dragon Balls and Shenron.
Kill Quan Chi, pffft that's it. Everybody here? Good! Now we can go fight Cell.

The thing is. Character revival is to be expected. A character coming back shouldn't be a surprise to anyone AT ALL.
I expected it to happen like at the end of the game, y'know? (them being a playable character however, personally surprised me.)

But it's also the timing...

So Kung Lao has to come back very early in the game's story.

But whatever, shouldn't think too much about it, it is what it is. Hopefully the story would give some peace of mind...or just be poop. Either way, we will know in some months.
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01/02/2015 07:57 PM (UTC)
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I still don't get how Kung Lao coming back from the dead is this much of a problem when Liu Kang did the EXACT FUCKING THING with Deception.

What is so goddamn different this time?
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01/02/2015 08:07 PM (UTC)
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Im using the logic behind Johnny Cage, he was killed in the MK3 but then brought back by the Elder Gods for the MK4 :""After Shao Kahn's defeat, Cage's soul is free to leave to a higher place. From the heavens, he observes his friends engaged in battle. With the heavens in disarray, he learns of the war waged against the Elder Gods by Shinnok. Cage seeks out Raiden to help him restore his deceased soul and join Liu Kang in his quest. Once again, Johnny Cage finds himself fighting alongside Earth's greatest warriors."

(In my opinion MK trilogy is not a canon based game)
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01/02/2015 08:07 PM (UTC)
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FerraTorr Wrote:Neither should be used in my opinion. I never use "faggot" nor do I use "gay" as an insult.


I wasn't accusing, and I hope I didn't give you the impression that the claws were coming out lol. That just happens to be a subject I feel very passionately about and did not expect to see it turn up on here. But life is full of surprises, eh? wink

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Hiya smile

So true, especially around here. I cant even go to the gas station or go dump the trash without running into somebody I know or somebody that knows my family lol


Omg, tell me about it. Small towns. Where abouts are you from? (You can PM me a reply so we don't keep derailing this thread lol.)

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unleash_your_tounge Wrote:
If that's the case, then both of them have to be defeated within the first 5 to (maybe) 10 years in the timeline.

Otherwise, how could Kung Lao age this much?


This! This is what's also bothering me. Which is weird because I care more about gameplay than story. I can't shake the feeling of some quick cheap writing is gonna be thrown in just to revive characters.
Like a quick shit version of Dragon Ball Z and Quan Chi is both the Star Dragon Balls and Shenron.
Kill Quan Chi, pffft that's it. Everybody here? Good! Now we can go fight Cell.

The thing is. Character revival is to be expected. A character coming back shouldn't be a surprise to anyone AT ALL.
I expected it to happen like at the end of the game, y'know? (them being a playable character however, personally surprised me.)

But it's also the timing...

So Kung Lao has to come back very early in the game's story.


I'm still holding on to hope that it will actually be a story that will surprise everyone. Meaning there will be aspects that the community hasn't even thought of yet, as well as having a main plot that won't be so...predictable. They've written an excellent story before, even without Tobias, so it CAN happen. It just depends on whether NRS is ready to give up on the franchise or not. I can say with confidence though that if MKX fails in terms of story, that it'll be the faulty chapter system more so than the writing. (Unless we get blown away by 30 more retcons...) So, Konquest in MK11 ftw.
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01/02/2015 08:14 PM (UTC)
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Kung Lao didn't go to the heavens like Cage did. He was stuck in the neatherrealm.
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01/02/2015 08:18 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
I still don't get how Kung Lao coming back from the dead is this much of a problem when Liu Kang did the EXACT FUCKING THING with Deception.

What is so goddamn different this time?


Kung Lao doesn't look like he's been effected by death at all in this game like Liu Kang did in deception.
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01/02/2015 08:18 PM (UTC)
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Cage's soul was freed from Kahn after his defeat then was restored in MK4 when approaching to Raiden. So Quan Chi has Kung Lao's soul as per the Story in MK (2011) and in MKX is freed after the defeat of Quan chi/ or who ever the boss is. That's my only reason why Kung Lao is back.
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01/02/2015 08:19 PM (UTC)
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fraysol Wrote:
Cage's soul was freed from Kahn after his defeat then was restored in MK4 when approaching to Raiden. So Quan Chi has Kung Lao's soul as per the Story in MK (2011) and in MKX is freed after the defeat of Quan chi/ or who ever the boss is. That's my only reason why Kung Lao is back.



Okay I get what you're saying now. That's most likely what will happen.
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01/02/2015 08:28 PM (UTC)
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Brady_Got_Caged Wrote:
fraysol Wrote:
Cage's soul was freed from Kahn after his defeat then was restored in MK4 when approaching to Raiden. So Quan Chi has Kung Lao's soul as per the Story in MK (2011) and in MKX is freed after the defeat of Quan chi/ or who ever the boss is. That's my only reason why Kung Lao is back.



Okay I get what you're saying now. That's most likely what will happen.


I think with the MKX story spanning 25 years there will probably be a point in which go through the defeat of Quan Chi then continue through the rest of the MK universe after MK V, Deception and Armageddon.

But over all in due time it will be explained.
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01/02/2015 08:31 PM (UTC)
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Brady_Got_Caged Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
I still don't get how Kung Lao coming back from the dead is this much of a problem when Liu Kang did the EXACT FUCKING THING with Deception.

What is so goddamn different this time?


Kung Lao doesn't look like he's been effected by death at all in this game like Liu Kang did in deception.


There's a plausible reason for that, healing. If Raiden is behind Kung Lao's resurrection, it's possible that he healed his broken neck. We've seen him heal other characters before.

I'm still asking my question, what is so different with Kung Lao coming back from the dead after one game?
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01/02/2015 08:36 PM (UTC)
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I'm still asking my question, what is so different with Kung Lao coming back from the dead after one game?


I honestly don't know, but my best guess is because of all the times NRS mentioned moving on to a new generation of fighters and that most, at least, wanted to take MK9's story seriously. Especially seeings how they put so much effort into killing a slew of fan favorites.
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01/02/2015 08:38 PM (UTC)
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My thoughts.... Well whatever happens will happen early on in the story as Kung Laos age should be proof of that. And no doubt its the same Kung Lao.

I bet what happens is that for some reason Raiden makes a deal with Quan Chi to get the souls back of the chars that died but instead of getting them all back he only ends up getting a few back for some reason. So that way there are few returning chars that did die but Raiden got back while Quan Chi still has the others serving him.

Something like that is the only way i can think of that has returning dead chars and some who remain dead.
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01/02/2015 08:49 PM (UTC)
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I never really thought about that.
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01/02/2015 08:50 PM (UTC)
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I wouldn't use Kung Lao's age to say for certain everyone who died is coming back. There's way too many factors to consider, like how much control or influence Quan and/or the Netherealm itself may have over their specific souls (consider Smoke). We know there are going to be revenant versions of some of those guys at least, they've said as much. Whether we see them like that before they come back, or if those'll be their main forms throughout the game...we'll see.

I'd agree though that Kung Lao's return would seem to coincide with the MK4 period, roughly. He certainly wasn't dead for long.

What I want to know is how he feels about Raiden...
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01/02/2015 08:53 PM (UTC)
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Lol okay.
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01/02/2015 10:47 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
I'm still asking my question, what is so different with Kung Lao coming back from the dead after one game?
people were lowkey expecting the most popular characters in the franchise to stay dead so their forgotten faves could have a chance to shine.
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01/03/2015 06:14 AM (UTC)
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oracle Wrote:
people were lowkey expecting the most popular characters in the franchise to stay dead so their forgotten faves could have a chance to shine.
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01/03/2015 06:27 AM (UTC)
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We HATE Kung Lao!!!

He is old, boring, tired, and his hat is rusty.
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01/03/2015 05:12 PM (UTC)
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I feel that if MK9 was actually the first MK game ever, I could understand your surprise. But it wasn't, death in MK has been like this for the entire series and the only disappointed or surprised people are the ones who were foolish enough to believe all of a sudden it would be different.
Blade4693 Wrote:
unleash_your_tounge Wrote:
Blade4693 Wrote:
A fellow Virginian? What are the chances lol


Howdy neighbor! ;)

It's a small world lol.


Hiya smile

So true, especially around here. I cant even go to the gas station or go dump the trash without running into somebody I know or somebody that knows my family lol

Make that three Virginians ;)
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01/03/2015 06:36 PM (UTC)
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Mobster_For_SATAN Wrote:
Make that three Virginians ;)


Sweet deal! Who would've guessed? grin
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01/04/2015 02:26 AM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
I still don't get how Kung Lao coming back from the dead is this much of a problem when Liu Kang did the EXACT FUCKING THING with Deception.

What is so goddamn different this time?


"Does Kung Lao look like a zombie-bitch?"
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01/04/2015 04:58 AM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
I still don't get how Kung Lao coming back from the dead is this much of a problem when Liu Kang did the EXACT FUCKING THING with Deception.
What is so goddamn different this time?


The difference is that Liu Kang's death actually played a significant part in the Deception storyline.

And up until the series "ended" with Armageddon, he wasn't ever magically brought back to life somewhere down the line, as what appears to be the case with Kung Lao.
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01/04/2015 05:47 AM (UTC)
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SwingBatta Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
I still don't get how Kung Lao coming back from the dead is this much of a problem when Liu Kang did the EXACT FUCKING THING with Deception.
What is so goddamn different this time?


The difference is that Liu Kang's death actually played a significant part in the Deception storyline.

And up until the series "ended" with Armageddon, he wasn't ever magically brought back to life somewhere down the line, as what appears to be the case with Kung Lao.


"Many believe that Kung Lao had died in injuries suffered during the final fight against Shao Khan. In fact he had merely turnd to a new life without violence in reverence to his ancestral beliefs. As news of Shinnok's threat reaches Kung Lao together with the apparent return of Goro, Kung Lao returns once more to challenge his ancestor's killer."
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