I agree with the whole 'sellout roster' thing. (This doesn't mean that I'm not going to play or enjoy the game)

It seems like other character would have made more sense to be reintroduced into the series (reiko, bo rai chi, fujin, li mei, Tanya, sareena, Kira, etc) and get the red dragon involved with Mileena but NRS took the marketing route and went the well known faces, and slapped them with some kids to double their money. Yay for the casual fans blinded by graphics and gimmicks. Boo for the fans who desire creativity and risks.

I'm thinking this as well. They never said it was a character we didn't see yet, did they?

I still believe Ed meant 24 characters + 1 (Goro, even tho he's DLC). Hope I'm wrong.

Ewwwwwww why would u want mk 9 again? It's people like u that hold nrs back.

One second fans complain about so many retirning characters from MK9 and asking for "creativity" and risks, and after the DLC characters are revealed, including the risky Tremor and Tanya, people suddenly cry where's Noob, Cyrax, Sektor, Smoke???!!!!111

Hahaga I don't usually agree with u but u got a good point. Altho jason and predator can be seen as rather safe considering the way Freddy sold.

The problem isn't that they took creative risks, the problem is that not all of the games are represented in the roster and we ended up with something a little bland. Up until MKvDC, that was something they managed to do with every single non-compilation game, was to have at least one character from 1, 2, 3, U3, 4 and DA. They didn't do that this time and I think it sucks. We're missing characters from both MK3 and MKD, and they could've easily taken out 2 of the revenant characters and given us that. Instead they stuck with majority being the MK1/MK2 crowd and its just boring and predictable.

As an aside, I'll give you Tremor as risky, but seeing as Tanya fans have been clamoring for her since MK9 was in development, there's no risk in that at all, especially given Ed's feelings towards the character.

Anyways, as an example, if they had given us;

Cassie Cage
D'Vorah
Ermac
Erron Black
Ferra/Torr
Havik
Jacqui Briggs
Jax
Johnny Cage
Kano
Kenshi
Kitana
Kotal Kahn
Kung Jin
Liu Kang
Mileena
Quan Chi
Raiden
Rain
Reptile
Scorpion
Shinnok
Sub-Zero
Takeda

...And had made the overall DLC Jason, Pred, Sonya Blade, Fujin, Tanya and another MK9 guy, the roster would be solid imo because they covered all their bases.

^^ still a horrible roster

Remove jax, jacquie, kenshi, liu kang, kung lao and kitana...leave the dead as they were...DEAD....give us new or post mk4

I think they went safe on the roster and will ~try~ to risk using DLCs? We already have Tanya and Tremor, so, if we get to have one more Kombat Pack, I think we will see some 3D era faces... but that's just wishful thinking.

I also don't get why there's no one cyborg yet... it is like the perfect time to show them :~ Image Sektor with this new gen omg

If they start to get greedy they might try to please the people who want to turn the game into a movie fighting game which worries me. I don't get how you can be a mk fan yet not want mk characters playable.

You're talking about them adding more and more guest characters?

Yes. That would really suck

Jacqui doesn't have robot arms. She has a gauntlet gun thing on her wrist and metal knuckles strapped to her hands. If that counts as robot arms, then Scorpion has a robot face. If anything she's more similar to Sonya with kickboxing, than Jax.

MK9 had an issue where some of it's roster didn't have purpose to be there other than it's a remake of MKTrilogy. In MKX everyone seems to have a reason and a place.

With the newbies being the best new characters since MKII and the returnees being given ramped up designs and move sets, how is the roster stale compared to any other MK game?

The roster isn't perfect by any means. I would want more Meleena supporters like Rain/Reiko/Baraka or another antagonist like Havik. But, if this is the number of playable characters we get then it's awesome to see those who didn't make the cut as NPCs.

The only people who think this roster is shit are the ones who are upset characters they don't like are in and characters they do are not. My favorite character is NIghtwolf, and if anyone of the revenants could over come Quan Chi's control it should be him. He has been used very little in the past and has great potential for variations. So am I upset he isn't in the game over Jax?

Not at all. Jax looks the best he ever has and more importantly has a reason to be there in helping Jacqui be connected to the world and being a revenant fighter during the Neatherrealm War so the deaths in MK9 isn't just glossed over and we can see their repercussions.

I'm sorry, but if you flat out hate half of the roster, then you probably should wait a few more years for another Mortal Kombat. Then again, over half of this games roster will be in the next one too, sooo...

Nah, I'm upset at the lack of diversity in the roster. I can accept staples like Sonya, Jax, JC. I cannot accept Sonya, JC, Their daughter, Jax, his daughter, the cousin of a cousin, and Kenshi's bastard. (This makes me think of a family reunion where you think to yourself "who the hell are these people?") (SN we could also potentially end up with this scenario "You know, Sonya's bestfriend's, daughter's, boyfriend's, "step-dad")

Cut out two of the teens, two of the relatives, give me two more people from MK4, two from MK3, or one from MK3 and one from MKD. I would say add two other new characters, but I think there is enough new to satisfy casuals and for regulars to adapt to.

Instantly the roster would look a lot better. I didn't use names so that its clear that I'm not mad about my favorites not being in the game.

If you look at the characters left to choose from in those games there are plenty of options that to give the roster diversity. You'd have new and old, good and bad, cyborgs/ninjas/tarkatans/shokan, etc.

We have not seen her doing any kick boxing. If most of these characters will be in the new game what is the point of a new generation. Like u said jax is used to represent the revenants but we already have those also they could of used any revenant if they wanted to but they chose to leave out all the mk 3 ones.

That's the thing, the changes that could have made the roster less lopsided and bland was maybe 4-5 characters swaps, even in the order. The counterarguments always revolve around this: if you aren't stoked with the roster, it means your favourites didn't make it, which is exactly what someone whose favourites did make it might say. It's about diversity and representation.

I don't have a problem with Kung Lao, Kitana, Sonya, Cassie, Jax, Jacqui, Kenshi, Takeda, Liu Kang and Johnny Cage being playable individually, I've a problem with all of them being in the game together, there lies the difference.

first off, this isn't mk9.5.

You're getting 8 new characters, plus 2 other that haven't really been playable before. Goro and Tremor. Goro is far more developed than he ever was.

Nearly a third of the roster is brand new compared to MK9.

Then you get the option of playing characters that were in MK9 in a brand new way. 3 brand new actually. They all got revamped movesets. ALL. Not a single one of them is worse compared to the MK9 version of them.

Want an entire new roster? Go play another game. MK isn't for you.

Here's the thing. You're not playing the old games. You're playing a new one. Johnny, Kang, Lao, Kitana, Mileena... etc, don't play like they did in MK9. They all have different strings that alter the approach these characters had and their signature specials have been modified.

Frankly, that alone makes me wish we had the entire roster of MK9 playable in this game. I want to see how those characters would look and play like in this game.

I don't want a new roster for the sake of being new. Especially when most of the character YOU want in this game were duds in the previous ones.

Why should I want Mavado a character that had an AWFUL moveset in both games he was in, instead of maybe Ermac? Ermac I already know I'm gonna enjoy. With Mavado I have to hope they somehow fix everything about him. Same for Ashrah or anyone from the 3d era not called Kenshi (I don't count MK4 as part of the 3d era).

said someone who wants sareena, tanya, kira and reiko.

Which somehow makes his/her opinion invalid because...

I don't count DLC as a part of the roster, because technically it isn't. You have to pay separately for them, so I have to pay extra to add Tanya to the roster.

Also the point is despite all of those old people "playing entirely different" (which will soon be up for debate) for some people there are way more characters in game that they would rather not play, versus characters they would enjoy playing.

They get boring after some time. U can only change a characters moves so many times before it changes the character. Also why should some fans be pleased and some not. The only reason I can think of is going with the majority but if they did that people like Fujin would be playable.

yeah I don't buy that.

You're telling me that you'd rather see the MK staples out of the roster in favor of Frost, Tanya, Li Mei, Kira, Taven and Kobra?

That there are people who want the good characters out in favor of those?

And dlc IS part of the roster. Kenshi and Rain were in MK9. I can play with them, therefore they're fucking part of the roster.
I don't care about what mental gymnastics you make to force your badly constructed point across, but Tanya is in the roster. You want her? Well, pay for her. Show support that your "cream of the crop" character deserves. Speak with your money.

Don't want to? Then she goes back where she belongs. Not in another MK game.

yeah, hypocrisy kinda has that effect

You clearly haven't heard of character loyalty. You clearly haven't heard of UMK3 a game made just so they would add the ninjas and raiden back into the roster after many complaints and low sales.

They get boring? If a character you like gets a brand new moveset... how the fuck can he get boring? How? Explain that to me. They keep the signature moves but everything else is different. Costume and strings. How do they suddenly get boring?

Take Scorpion for example. You've always liked this character. He's back again only now he has this really cool new look to him and his moves look very flashy and awesome. How is it that a character you've always enjoyed in the past and now looks even better than he has ever been, boring?

Does not fucking compute.

They went with the majority because the majority are the ones buying the game. So they picked the characters with the most use by us. Smoke and Cyrax being the ONLY odd choice being left out.

And the majority didn't request Fujin. Actually until recently and certainly not during MK9, Fujin wasn't that requested. He's cool and I want him in. He's for sure one of the kombat pack 2 dlc characters if he isn't unlockable in the game. But the majority wasn't asking for fujin. They were asking for Kung Lao, Liu Kang, Kitana... basically the faces of mortal kombat.

the roster is bland AF. if the claims of jamessmk are fully true then this is all we get, no secret characters, no nothing, just the 24 we know and goro for those that pre-order. the choices they made are awful and nothing and no one can change that no matter how some keep praising NRS. the roster is SF overkill and that's a fact. unless NRS did throw Fujin and Rain in there to add some diversity and those two as unlockables, the roster is complete shit.

How is wanting any of those characters hypocritical? Are they mortal kombat staples? No. Have those characters been overused and pushed on us like characters such as cage, kung Lao, jax, etc? No. Would those characters bring both relevance and a different dynamic given the plot line? Yes. So what's your point?

Someone mention Tremor as an example. I do commend NRS actually taking a risk with Tremor, but still feel the copped out a bit with making him just 'dlc' and not a main character. And then they mention me crying over noob and Cyrax? Um no never happened.