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RedSumac
08/03/2014 02:20 PM (UTC)
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A fresh new Sub-Zero will kill the character. He's probably the most popular one of the franchise (as we're posting here he's fighting Ermac in the Online User Poll final). He's so popular because he's unique, the last of his race, the enigmatic cryomancers from the icy mountains in Outworld. OK, 2 Sub-Zeros, one evil and one good works great. Noob Saibot is kool. But another Sub-Zero? It kills the story. A sea of Sub-Zeros?? WTF? This has got to be the biggest mistake in the history of NRS. If this happens, I am certain that Sub-Zero won't be in the top 5 most popular MK characters in 2 years time.

What a bunch of fanboish bulldang.
For the Average Joe it's completely irrelevant who is under the mask of Sub-Zero as long as he has his ice ninja to play with.
Besides, what many people are forgetting, after MK9 Kuai Liang's acvievements in MKDA-MKA are irrelevant, so replacing him will not do anything to his character.
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Icebaby
08/03/2014 02:37 PM (UTC)
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I mentioned this before and I think it got overlooked. If this is Kuai it can still make sense, despite the whole "you can't kinda change back after bring automated." Since the damage received on Cyber Sub-Zero showed there's no skin underneath the metal, he could always do the Raiden (Metal Gear Solid) thing and obtain artificial skin.

The only thing is A.) Doubt it and B.) It would mean we would have to see him go under. Because you know, saying and not seeing that happening would be a huge disappointment. Despite I doubt this is gonna be the case, I'm still throwing the idea out there as a "what if," kind of thing.
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08/03/2014 08:23 PM (UTC)
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My opinion is that it is wishful thinking to think either Kuai Liang or Bi-Han will be returning as Sub-Zero. Based on what went down in MK9's story mode, along with Ed Boon's comments about how Sub-Zero isn't just one guy my gut feeling is that this is someone new under the mask. I know a lot of people hate the idea of a new SZ who is not one of the two brothers but it's something I can live with. It's possible that the new Subby is actually the son of either Kuai or Bi-Han which would totally make sense seeing as Sub-Zero is a mantle that is passed on from generation to generation. I believe Kuai Liang was the 6th Sub-Zero?
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Immortal_Kanji
08/03/2014 08:39 PM (UTC)
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It's obvious that its a new Sub-Zero. Its not related to the brothers but someone who is carrying their legacy.

I hope he's a good guy and can help the heroes. Of course clear Bi-Han's innocence with Scorpion.
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RazorsEdge701
08/03/2014 09:17 PM (UTC)
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FerraTorr Wrote:
I believe Kuai Liang was the 6th Sub-Zero?


Yes, but the first five were his brother, father, grandfather, great grandfather, and great great grandfather.

It would be weird to reveal he has any family left to take the name. Unless new guy is Frost's son somehow.
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08/03/2014 09:40 PM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
FerraTorr Wrote:
I believe Kuai Liang was the 6th Sub-Zero?


Yes, but the first five were his brother, father, grandfather, great grandfather, and great great grandfather.

It would be weird to reveal he has any family left to take the name. Unless new guy is Frost's son somehow.


WHY would it be weird? What reason do you have to think that neither Bi-Han or Kuai Liang had a kid somewhere? Just saying.
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RocketBoy
08/05/2014 01:13 AM (UTC)
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FerraTorr Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
FerraTorr Wrote:
I believe Kuai Liang was the 6th Sub-Zero?


Yes, but the first five were his brother, father, grandfather, great grandfather, and great great grandfather.

It would be weird to reveal he has any family left to take the name. Unless new guy is Frost's son somehow.


WHY would it be weird? What reason do you have to think that neither Bi-Han or Kuai Liang had a kid somewhere? Just saying.


It just kind of seems like NRS went "oh shit, we can't get rid of SZ, let's say he had a kid running around somewhere."

I mean, I'd accept that. As long as he's related I'll accept it. I suppose that would put him in the later part of the story with Cassie. He comes to get revenge for his father's (Bi-Han) death, and that gives Scorpion a story.

RedSumac Wrote:
RocketBoy Wrote:
Personally, I think I new SZ would be really stupid and not make any sense at all.

Because it never had happened before?
Oh...

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And we all know that Scorpion has no storyline without a Sub-Zero

MKDA, MKD and MKA would have like to have a word with you.


Obviously you didn't read my whole post. And Scorpion's story without SZ never made any sense. It was just Boon trying to make Scorpion relevant.
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Scar_Subby
08/05/2014 02:14 AM (UTC)
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Okay so I just read the translations and like 60-70% I would say is just speculation. Just like what any of us have been doing.

It basically says It can't be Bi-Han because he's Noob Saibot, and his younger brother is Cyber Sub-Zero. Maybe it's a son of one of the brothers.

That's it in a nutshell.

In fact this whole article was not an Ed Boon interview. There's an excerpt which is Ed Boon being interviewed. The rest is speculation.

It's just like I thought. This Sub-Zero could absolutely still be Bi-Han or Kuai Liang along with one of their sons showing up later in the game.
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Quakeman
10/23/2014 05:15 AM (UTC)
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Alright guys, here's how I'm thinkin its gonna go down:

It seems to me that Bi-Han is some how back as Sub-Zero in the alternate time line of MK, and I'm also thinking he's back as a good version of his previous self.

Now you got us fans crying "but what about Noob Saibot?!" and "what about Subby (Kuai Liang the more well known Sub-Zero)?!!?!". But guys, what you don't know is that they are in this game, as the SAME CHARACTER.

Cyber Noob is Kuai Liang in his cybernetic wraith body being held under control by the evil sorcerer Quan Chi. We will have to see what more comes of this story. Should be great!
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H3ndrix
10/23/2014 05:26 AM (UTC)
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I really don't think that's going to happen at all, honestly... No offense. :/
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Quakeman
10/23/2014 05:28 AM (UTC)
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Then you must be high.
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H3ndrix
10/23/2014 05:33 AM (UTC)
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If I'm high then you're tripping balls.
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SwingBatta
10/23/2014 05:35 AM (UTC)
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Quakeman Wrote:
Cyber Noob is Kuai Liang in his cybernetic wraith body being held under control by the evil sorcerer Quan Chi.


Er, I don't think so.
Quakeman Wrote:
We will have to see what more comes of this story.

A story that doesn't even exist?
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Icebaby
10/23/2014 07:14 AM (UTC)
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No.
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predac0n
10/23/2014 07:26 AM (UTC)
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More likely is a scenario where Smoke (Enera Version) finds the lifeless wraith body of Noob and takes possesion of it MUAHAHA Smoke & Nobb can be one again ^___^
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10/23/2014 07:33 AM (UTC)
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One would assume that there is only one Sub-Zero throughout the entire episode. What if it's not?
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... here's your Subzero, now plain zero.

10/23/2014 08:18 AM (UTC)
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CSZ is actually my choice and if I had my way I would leave Noob Saibot alone with his connection to Bi Han.
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