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Jaded-Raven
07/26/2012 02:17 PM (UTC)
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ShadowPreacher Wrote:
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If it was always about what the majority likes, then the story in Story Mode would have played out differently. Many of the characters would have been different in personality. Many of the changes in the newest MK wouldn't have happened.



Except the majority of MK fans loved the story mode, and it's been critically acclaimed and held up as an example for future fighting games to follow.

The posters here on MKO do not represent an accurate microcosm of all MK fans everywhere.


Then how do you know the majority liked it? Show me a source which shows that the majority likes the story of the newest MK.
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ShadowPreacher
07/26/2012 02:20 PM (UTC)
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Well I could be snarky and say I can't link you to people in the real world and OFF THE INTERNET, but as it happens I don't even have to do that, because tons of people from other sites liked it too.

Don't believe me? Go snoop around on NeoGaf or Shoryuken.com and see for yourself.
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Jaded-Raven
07/26/2012 02:31 PM (UTC)
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So you say you cannot give me a direct source stating this. It's easy to make alot of statements without having any proof to back it up with. Those sites you mention are still only but a small fraction of people who play MK. So you can say that the majority of those sites like the story, but again, without solid proof of it, like statistics, a poll and the like, it is still just a statement. Just words.

That said, it's not that I don't believe you. It is usually all the negative fans who are the loudest, so it is easy to think they are the majority. But unless you find a way to know what the majority wants and likes, then there's no solid proof.

The way NRS and other gaming companies learn what the majority likes is to search the many forums, but also going out at different events and talk with people. So if anyone knows what the majority wants, it would be NRS. They probably have some statistics about what people think about Story Mode, what games were the most popular, what characters are the most played etc.

But without that kind of proof, it is just a statement.
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ShadowPreacher
07/26/2012 02:36 PM (UTC)
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MKO is also a small majority of the people who play MK.

And if NRS has such a good handle on what the people want, wouldn't that mean that the new story and roster selection IS what people want? You just contradicted yourself there.
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Jaded-Raven
07/26/2012 02:43 PM (UTC)
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ShadowPreacher Wrote:
MKO is also a small majority of the people who play MK.

And if NRS has such a good handle on what the people want, wouldn't that mean that the new story and roster selection IS what people want? You just contradicted yourself there.


I never stated what the majority wants or doesn't want. I asked you if you could prove your statement. Which you couldn't.

Also, it was theories about how NRS knew what the majority wants. Mere guessing. I don't know how they learn about it, nor do I claim to know. They might not even know what majority wants and just go by instinct. I doubt that's the case, but that's just me.

Your first sentence there... "MKO is also a small majority"... A small majority? Don't you mean a minority then? I don't see how that sentence makes sense.
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07/26/2012 03:03 PM (UTC)
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I voted Sub-Zero because he's always been my favorite since MK1.
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07/26/2012 03:25 PM (UTC)
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I'm not a fan of either of them, but I went with Raiden in the end and I'm still not sure why...
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07/26/2012 03:48 PM (UTC)
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I think it's safe to skip to end. Sub Zero wins the tournament!! lol
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ShadowPreacher
07/26/2012 03:51 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
ShadowPreacher Wrote:
MKO is also a small majority of the people who play MK.

And if NRS has such a good handle on what the people want, wouldn't that mean that the new story and roster selection IS what people want? You just contradicted yourself there.


I never stated what the majority wants or doesn't want. I asked you if you could prove your statement. Which you couldn't.

Also, it was theories about how NRS knew what the majority wants. Mere guessing. I don't know how they learn about it, nor do I claim to know. They might not even know what majority wants and just go by instinct. I doubt that's the case, but that's just me.

Your first sentence there... "MKO is also a small majority"... A small majority? Don't you mean a minority then? I don't see how that sentence makes sense.


Yes, I meant to say small minority. Typo...it happens.

Also, because I can't (or don't care enough to try) to prove something doesn't mean it's not true. I told you to do your own homework; check the reviews and read and listen to what other people say on- and off-line. If you don't care to, it's not my problem.
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07/26/2012 04:00 PM (UTC)
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ShadowPreacher Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
ShadowPreacher Wrote:
MKO is also a small majority of the people who play MK.

And if NRS has such a good handle on what the people want, wouldn't that mean that the new story and roster selection IS what people want? You just contradicted yourself there.


I never stated what the majority wants or doesn't want. I asked you if you could prove your statement. Which you couldn't.

Also, it was theories about how NRS knew what the majority wants. Mere guessing. I don't know how they learn about it, nor do I claim to know. They might not even know what majority wants and just go by instinct. I doubt that's the case, but that's just me.

Your first sentence there... "MKO is also a small majority"... A small majority? Don't you mean a minority then? I don't see how that sentence makes sense.


Yes, I meant to say small minority. Typo...it happens.

Also, because I can't (or don't care enough to try) to prove something doesn't mean it's not true. I told you to do your own homework; check the reviews and read and listen to what other people say on- and off-line. If you don't care to, it's not my problem.


Makes more sense then. ^^

I already did my homework. I know. Just poking at you for making statements without giving up a source or showing proof to back it up with. ;)
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07/26/2012 04:31 PM (UTC)
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I voted for Raiden, but really, all four of the characters left I really like, so I'm not going to complain no matter WHAT happens from here on out!
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07/26/2012 04:31 PM (UTC)
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Kuai Liang of Course! I freakin love this guy. I loved how he interrupted Shao Kahn's tournament, walked up to Kahn, looked him straight in the eye and demanded scorpion. Shang sent Reptile, Subby whooped his ass, and he then downed Shao Kahn's 'folly' tournament; demanding scorpion again. Shao Kahn seemed a bit impressed in sub zero, and I was like this scene is one of the best so far. Kahn then granted him his challenge. I was so glad when he finally whopped scorpion's mislead-vengeful spirit ass in MK9(MK2 era).

And when he was finally about to avenge Bi-Han, the Lin Keui came in and just FUCKED IT UP! "You disobeyed your directive to remain at the temple" my ass! No Fuck that let the guy avenge his brother. Hell he already said that he would return after. Then Raiden......smh Raiden, Raiden, Raiiden. "No stop smoke let them take him and let'st see what happens to the future." Raiden is a fricken idiot (in Napoleon's voice) for what he let happen. I mean yea they were outnumbered 3:1, but he should have at least tried to save poor Kuai-Liangsad

Talk about a bitter ending. Well at least Kuai-Liang got to see Bi-Han and kicked his ass instead of being torn in half by his brother and best friend, smoke. Amen to thatgrin

MK4 N64: Kuai-Liang's ending had me ctfu and rotflmmfao when he simply told Scorpion "ARRRRRIGHT...." after he was freed from Scorpion's curse; like he didn't give two shits LOLOLOLOLOLgringringrin
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07/26/2012 04:39 PM (UTC)
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Raiden.

It's useless and I think the winner of the poll is obvious already, but why the hell not...
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07/26/2012 04:47 PM (UTC)
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skyboy Wrote:
I think it's safe to skip to end. Sub Zero wins the tournament!! lol


I agree with you. I voted for Sub-Zero & he's going to win this tournament, he's running away with this thing but that's okay with me, he's one of my favorites ever since he debuted. Smoke & Kitana did very well, wish Skarlet could have gone farther in this but it's whatever.
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07/26/2012 05:05 PM (UTC)
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Everyone was talking about avoiding the predictable outcome. Well, sadly no one will beat Sub-Zero the tournament is already over lol!
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corayfor
07/26/2012 05:28 PM (UTC)
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Raiden was ok in MK9. He is one of my mains when I play online...
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07/26/2012 05:31 PM (UTC)
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annilation Wrote:
Everyone was talking about avoiding the predictable outcome. Well, sadly no one will beat Sub-Zero the tournament is already over lol!


And I am loving this! Since the announcement of MK9, Subby has been treated like he was Scorpion's punching bag. I hated that, but I am glad to see that there are other Subby die hard fans who might have felt the same.

Scorpion: Live well Lin Kuie warrior.

Sub-Zero: ....................Arrright....

grin I can't get over it
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07/26/2012 05:52 PM (UTC)
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corayfor Wrote:
annilation Wrote:
Everyone was talking about avoiding the predictable outcome. Well, sadly no one will beat Sub-Zero the tournament is already over lol!




Lol Scorpion is the face of Mortal Kombat he doesn't need a tournament lol! I hate Scorpion as much as the next guy.

Oh yeah if you want to quote someone click reply on their statement then press add original.
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07/26/2012 06:00 PM (UTC)
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annilation Wrote:
corayfor Wrote:
annilation Wrote:
Everyone was talking about avoiding the predictable outcome. Well, sadly no one will beat Sub-Zero the tournament is already over lol!





Lol Scorpion is the face of Mortal Kombat he doesn't need a tournament lol! I hate Scorpion as much as the next guy.

Oh yeah if you want to quote someone click reply on their statement then press add original.


Arrright!!!
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lildragon2000
07/26/2012 06:22 PM (UTC)
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2 more rounds WOW SUB-ZERO VS RAIDEN THEN NOOB VS ERMAC THEN SUB-ZERO VS NOOB THEN SUB-ZERO WINS THE TOURNEMENT
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07/26/2012 07:18 PM (UTC)
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I hope Sub-Zero wins it. I'm fine with that, but that's obvious.lol.

I wouldn't count out Noob just yet though, everyone's acting like this thing is over, but it's not.

There are two people I did not want to win this, those being Raiden and Smoke. Smoke is a goner already, and hopefully Raiden will be next.

Also @Jaded-Raven and @shadowpreacher

I would say the storymode of this game was more in a neutral position than anything. I wouldn't say it's extremely well received or received badly. I would say it's somewhere in between. I would say a lot of hardcore fans probably didn't like it as well, whereas casual fans probably thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. Just my opinion of it though.
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Jaded-Raven
07/26/2012 07:23 PM (UTC)
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Scar_Subby Wrote:
I would say the storymode of this game was more in a neutral position than anything. I wouldn't say it's extremely well received or received badly. I would say it's somewhere in between. I would say a lot of hardcore fans probably didn't like it as well, whereas casual fans probably thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. Just my opinion of it though.


How wonderfully neutral of you to say. ;P
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07/26/2012 07:48 PM (UTC)
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I would say that if sub zero wins then my time has been wasted learning the obvious. But i cant. This has been a nice timekiller and was kinda fun. I voted for raiden because Im burned out on the snowman
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07/26/2012 07:59 PM (UTC)
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ShadowPreacher Wrote:
Eh... much as I'm not crazy about Sub-Zero (mostly thanks to his obsessed fans on here), I can objectively say that having a game without him would be a huge mistake, just like having a game without Scorpion and Raiden.

People really love these 3 characters.


I get what you're saying about the majority of fans and what they want to see. I was more or less just speaking to my own experience. I sincerely doubt that casual MK fans or even a lot of hardcore MK fans have Sub-Zero fatigue.

So while I know that it's highly unlikely that we'll see another MK game without Sub-Zero and Scorpion in it, I just think that personally, for myself, I wouldn't mind seeing it happen.
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07/26/2012 08:06 PM (UTC)
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Voting for my main man Sub, glad to see him doing so well despite some of the people that just hate on him for being popular. This has been an interesting little game so far, and i must say i am kinda surprised by Smoke losing to Ermac, i thought Smoke would have taken that. Anyway no matter what happens its been in good fun, some people take this really seriously, myself included sadly, But the passion is what is important no matter how dumb some of us react to things going on.

In closing Go Subby =)
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