^^ This

I was addressing the whole thing. The "context" is a bit of a moot point.
The depth of the character is already implied elsewhere with more value, making earlier references unnecessary time wasting, which again, play an awfully similar note to other characters, in an unremarkable way. If anything, I would think the youth of the character helped to further imply his avoiding the same path as his brother. An unspoken distinction that strikes me a bit less ham-handed and a bit less sophmoric, more in keeping in with the purity of concept that beat 'em up characters usually have, but opinions will vary.

We didn't need a curve, but apparently, we're getting one any way.
At the end of the day, the content of the video was pretty nice, regardless.

Everybody's gonna get laid!

So how long do you think this is going to take reaching Wikipedia rofl

I dont know exectly when but i think it has been said sub zero got his Powers from his father and his father was a lin kuei too.

Hm, are the Sub-Zeros just Chinese and not mixed race now?

The more I see from this game the more I think it's not Raiden just going back and changing things from MK1 up but the development team changing entire characters histories and things like that.

To m, with the way it's worded, it almost sounds like the younger Sub-Zero will be the original Sub-Zero, like he entered the first MK tournament for revenge.

"entered the Mortal Kombat tournament" could mean the second one just as easily as the first. They're probably just being non-specific since it's just promotional material and they don't want to give away too much of how story mode goes down, whether there'll still be two tournaments then an invasion, y'know. Keep us guessing about how much is different and how much is the same.

Scorpion's bio depicts him getting his revenge on Subbie 1 at the tournament, not before it, after all.

And Scorpion's bio vid also directly lied to us about who killed Scorpion's clan, telling us who Scorp believes did it, not who actually did it. Which, combined with the Subbie text bio on the website that tries to make us think he's the other brother back from the dead (the exact same thing the original MK2 did in his bio, mind you, before his ending revealed that no, it's actually a different guy) sets a precedent for misinformation where we the audience are supposed to pretend we don't already know the outcomes of all these mysteries and will be surprised when the truth is revealed for the second time.

Names
For the rest of this post I will still be referring to them as OSZ and YSZ since not everyone seems to grasp who is who still.

Bi Han is OSZ as he was the one who originally had the cryo powers and was killed by Scorpion.

Kuai Liang is YSZ as he took up his brothers identity and learned his powers over cryomancy.


Unjust murder
Like others have said, this is from the point-of-view of YSZ, and most likely related to Scorpion killing OSZ in revenge for his clan / family. YSZ does know this as he ends up being the one to tell Scorpion at the end of MK4.

On the other hand Scorpion can still justify killing OSZ due to the events of his own death. But YSZ may or may not know this - it's never been mentioned before.

Someone said that YSZ kicks Scorpion's butt all throughout MK, where-as OSZ failed. This is not true. The only time YSZ and Scorpion fought was in MK4 and Scorpion won (he didn't kill him because he had more improtant things to do).


Conclusion
The whole revenge thing seems like nothing more than an excuse to drag out a rivalry that never really existed (Scorpion vs YSZ). Scorpion only had a rivalry with OSZ, not YSZ.

Also, YSZ taking revenge on someone who is all about revenge. There is too much revenge going on. Scorpion's personality is all about revenge, we don't need Sub Zero to mirror that.

Scorpion should never have a rivalry with YSZ! I don't care how good the story is written for it - it should never happen! MOVE ON!!


Cyber Zero
This vignette still doesn't debunk the concept of Sub Zero becoming a cyborg. They could either use OSZ's body, removing the possibility of having Noob Saibot. Or YSZ could still become a cyborg - heck, maybe he even volunteers so that he can become strong enough to take on Scorpion (as he wasn't in MK4, and therefore less likely in MK1-3).

The possibility is still there for cyber Zero.


Noob Saibot
He will most likely be in the game but this vignette isn't proof of that. Just because OSZ dies doesn't mean he will still end up being Noob Saibot. Regardless - he is very likely to return in this game.

On the other hand, no other character CAN be turned into Noob Saibot.
Noob Saibot IS Sub Zero's wraith form, if another character was turned into a wraith in his place, they should be given a different name.


Both Sub Zero's
As others have stated, the already shown model for Sub Zero will be used for BOTH the brothers. OSZ will probably only make an appearance in the story mode, and possibly only so Scorpion can kill him.

In every other mode the model will be used for YSZ, and an alt costume will be that of a MK3 SZ (unmasked and scarred - but heavily improved over the actual MK3 costume). Alternately his alt could be a cyborg suit if they go that route.

Noob Saibot will be a different character slot due to having a different name, moveset, and everything else.
Either way, I mentioned this in an older thread that had a couple of people adamant the 2 Sub Zero's will not share the same character slot. With they sharing the same primary costume, name, moveset, and everything else, you can bet your arse they will use ONE character slot for both SUb Zero's.

I don't think Noob Saibot will be a playable character from the start... he will most definialty be a hidden character that can be unlocked...

Noob Saibot as playabe character from the start doesn't feel right.

Out of all the characters, Noob Saibot is best for hidden character and less unique, (just a black shadow from another ninja)

Some self-made conclusions about the vid:

- It's said that Sub-Zero's goal is to kill his brother's murderer, what could be possibly what he had in mind during MKII when he was sent to the tournament. He has a mission, but he also has his own goals, it was his brother and he is the one with good heart so he sure feels angry about that.

- The video says that scorpion murdered Bi-Han and then Kuai Liang swear revenge, but it's never said revenge against scorpion, I see it as revenge against whoever killed his brother, and then it's said that his goal is to find and kill the one who did that, without naming scorpion. He probably took Bi-Han codename because the murderer will probably try to attack him, this way he doesn't need to find him, instead he will lure scorpion.

- IMO the cyborg stuff is completly impossible. A cyborg would have a complete new model to build instead of just an alternate costume, so I think they will keep his story as it is.

- I think that Bi-Han will be seen on story mode, but never played. I think he will be an enemy on scorpion's story using Kuai Liang model, so we could fight against him, but I doubt we will play as him if the story is like the one from MKvsDC (chapters following each one). I think Scorpion story will be one of the first ones, while Kuai Liang's will be one of the last time, probably involving his encoutner with scorp. during mk2 and the cyborg confrontation during mk3. Probably the alternate uniform for Kuai will be his MK3 outfit with the scar, so we will have pre-scar and post-scar Kuai Liang with the first one serving as Bi-Hand outfit during Scorpion story.

I think it is confirming cyborg Sub-Zero won't happen, as well as elder Sub-Zero (Bi-Han) staying Noob Saibot from his death at the hands of Scorpion onward.
I read Sub-Zero's written bio again and it does sound purely of the title of "Sub-Zero". Just as the Lin Kuei view Sub-Zero as the same person, whomever takes the generational title has the same goals and is viewed as the one "Sub-Zero".
Reference:
"Clad in blue, this formidable assassin began his deadly path on a mission from the Lin Kuei to murder Shang Tsung. That's when he was killed by Scorpion only to reappear as Noob Saibot, with his younger brother taking on the identity of Sub-Zero. Now he emerges with untold secrets of the afterlife propelling him fearlessly into the bloodiest battles. Time and again, he assaults the confidence of his enemies with his resurrected strength and sense of deadly purpose. Creating dismembered bodies and broken spirits wherever he goes, he threatens the very notion of peace on earth with his awe-inspiring destructive energy."
Just as if the next generational Sub-Zero took the mantle after Sub-Zero VI, it would continue onward with Sub-Zero VII.

The Zeros' Mother was American making them and their Sister [Frost?] Amer-Asians.

Personally I will give up MK altogether if they make Sub-Zero2 a revenge filled villain just because Boon likes to jerk off to a Scorpion-Sub-Zero feud. I like that Sub-Zero2 is a noble hero while his older brother is the murderous villain and Scorpion is the one with the long drawn out done to death revenge storyline.

I am so happy we finally get their real names.

Subby's always been my favorite character, but a chinese assassin with the code name Sub-Zero was always so cheesy. They're really working hard on making this one as dark as possible.

Haven't seen the video yet though, but I'm sure it's cool beans.

Scorpion 1813 said... "Cyber Zero This vignette still doesn't debunk the concept of Sub Zero becoming a cyborg. They could either use OSZ's body, removing the possibility of having Noob Saibot. Or YSZ could still become a cyborg - heck, maybe he even volunteers so that he can become strong enough to take on Scorpion (as he wasn't in MK4, and therefore less likely in MK1-3). The possibility is still there for cyber Zero." ....TOP....MEN...

This is a great update. It's brillaint that both Sub-Zero's have had their original names revealed. It's nice to receive a little background info like that and for them in particular it's brilliant as it'll help give them more distinction.

Scorpion kills the younger Sub-Zero and mistakes him for the older one who is to be blamed for the "death of his clan". Quai Lieng is the Elder Sub-Zero Vi Haung is the youngest.

Fixed the typo in the title :)

Quite sad. I always liked Sub-Zero Sr. more than Sub Jr. and never particularly cared about Scorpion and Noob-Saibot (as either stand alone character or wraith of Sub-Zero). I hoped that in this game elder Sub-Zero will be fleshed out more or even maybe both brothers could be fleshed as separate entities without killing one of them or cybernization.

Sadly NRS choosed the simpliest way out of this - repeat stuff from original timeline and add some confusion and unecceseraly bits. So now Noob is almost quaranteed to be in this game and Sub-Zero Jr. is another avenger. As if having one avenger - Scorpion was not enough.

Besides I don't like that this Bio didn't mentioned some information bits about Sub-Zero brothers, like them being descendants of ice warriors lineage. And omiting (or retconing?) stuff about them being abducted by their own father.

On one hand I glad that both brothers have finally names. On the other - I disappointed in several things. Sub-Zero Sr. will be killed and most likely Noob appears, since I don't care about Noob. Sub-Zero Jr. for whatever reason trying to avenge his brother death and somehow being aware about Scorpion being behind this. And the worse - NRS choose to repeat stuff from original timeline. So far not good. Anyway it is not the first disappointment in this game and sadly I don't think it will be the last.

In any case I hope that NRS will introduce major changes in the storyline, because it doesn't make any sense to repeat original story in the supposedly reboot of the series. If they wanted to cover plotholes in the timeline they could've done it with simple database or something like that, instead of creating reboot / remake just for this. And I personally do not want reboot game to have the same story as original ones, but with minor changes.
I hope they will reboot MK in this one for real and change as much as possible.

^This (except for the "never cared about Scorpion" part)

We still don't know wether the original personalities of the brothers are the same.

From what I get, it can still be that this time the older was the more complacent one, and that the surviving younger will be the aloof, cold blooded killer.

Basically repackaging the story with the swap of personalities. I would actually prefer that, since Subs after Mk4 basically became a vanilla good guy despite his background development, and/or relevance.

This is no longer a Gamespot exclusive; we have the video available for stream and download for those interested.

Rereading the MK webpage bio of Sub-Zero I just realized NRS duped us good: Its is Elder Sub-Zero's bio, they just presented it in a misleading depiction.

Read it again, it sums elder Sub-Zero up quite nicely:

- Entered MK1 to kill Shang Tsung. Killed by Scorpion.
- Younger brother takes up the Sub-Zero mantle
- Returns from the afterlife as Noob Saibot. Unleashes pain and destruction where ever he goes. A threat to peace everywhere as they said.

I know some members of this forum already called it when that bio first popped up. Congrats on being right.

As for the younger Sub-Zero his plot seems like a compromise to the fans on the devs part. Keeping the younger brother and Noob in the game, but darkening the younger bro's character a bit to make him more appealing to ESZ fans who complained the younger was too pure & good.

I dunno about that. YSZ was always very similar to his big bro at first in MK2. He didn't become his own man until he was forced to leave the clan and create his own destiny in MK3, 4, and DA.
And "discovering who killed his brother, potentially seeking revenge" was always a background element. This isn't even the first game to bring it to the fore as his motivation for going to Outworld, Shaolin Monks was. I would hope though, that unlike Shaolin Monks, we'll still see Scorpion and Sub-Zero both come to learn there's no reason for a beef between them like the first time.

I never have been a huge Sub-Zero fan, but from what I was able to gather pre-MKvsDC release, this really does seem like the answer to the complaint back then.

At that time, we wanted the darker personality of the older brother, verging on vigilantism, going against the grain and all that. Along with the history and character development that the younger brother is privileged to.

In this game, they seem to be presenting YSZ to us as a guy who is pissed off and very bitter because his brother got killed by some big...friggin...JERK!

Schweet!

I'm happy with it... Sub-Zero is awesome once more.

PS: I hope they let us collect all these vids somehow. I already enjoy watching Sub-Zero and Scorpion's back to back.

I also get the impression that the devs only recently settled on Sub-Zero's story. Also that during the time of E3 & their EGM article having the Elder Sub-Zero survive and the younger get automated (or whatever) was at least one of the possibly story lines they where considering: the leaks and suggestive hints being their way of sparking fan feedback on that idea. They have admitted to trolling the community for feedback several times afterall.