Anyone complaining about the graphics is being a bit foolish. It not only looks pretty good now, but everyone should know that the graphics and all that polishing is one of the last things worked on in the game. With 9 months still ahead of us, I feel as if you are prejudging it just because you are used to seeing it closer to completion by this point in the year, but that's not the case this time around. I would expect no less than MK vs DC quality, which was great, and I would go as far to bet it's gonna be better than that.

I still support this reboot, retelling, or remake of MK1-3 if that's what it is. I can udnerstand some people want to go forward, but one must appreciate and get the past right before doing so. And if you think it's just gonna be a page by page thing, I highly doubt that is the case. It's just gonna retell it all and make sure everything makes sense, regardless if they have to alter some of the old stories etc. Theres a lot we don't really know about some of these characters and their true involvement in the series. I would give it a chance at least, and wait til they explain what they will be doing and how they are presenting it until you judge it. If it's supposed to be "the deepest story" ever...that's enough right there to think this is going to be something special to get excited for.

It's funny how just 2 days ago we were all arguing about 1 thing, then here now we are alla rguing about the game's story, yet the people being on which side have been jumbled up. I find that kinda interesting. Just shows everybody has a different desire for MK depending on what the subject at hand is.

I really hope they are going to amp up the blood gore more in the game.
From the trailer it didn't really look any more gory or bloody than Mk Vs Dc to me.
Except from the obvious ones like the bone breaking and the fatalities of course.

So the game have 3d graphic wite 2d gameplay??

If you're not here to argue, then that's cool, I won't argue with you. But I do have to point out that everyone's entitled to their own opinion. I'm sorry if my view of the trailer doesn't jive with yours. I honestly wish that it did. But I've only really seen a few people that have been outright negative about this trailer.

I actually think that the reaction to this game has been overwhelmingly positive in this thread. Outside of Xiahoudun and Chrome, I seem to be the only person that's less than impressed with where they're taking this game thus far.

As far as the graphics, I do agree with BlackCyborg who said that the graphics are still 9 months away. So yes, I'm prejudging the graphics. I shouldn't do that, but it was a kneejerk reaction. When MKvsDC's first trailer was shown off, I thought that it looked like a PS2 game but by the time they were done, it looked great.

So I do believe that this game will deliver on the graphics front. I'm not worried about that. I'm more worried about the fact that nothing new was shown. A tag mode, which has been done by many other fighting games, is great, but if that's the big new feature, well, again, not impressed.

I'm REALLY hoping that we see some new stuff at E3 as far as characters, backgrounds, stories and fighting game elements that lead me to believe that this isn't simply them rebooting the franchise and starting over, basically saying "well, we crashed the 3D games in to a brick wall, so now we're oging to start over with what people loved back in 1993 and go from there."

Once again I think people are just used to the game having a lot more revealed by now since it's uusally due out in 4 more months. However, we still have 9 months to go, so don't expect them to throw everything neat and new that they did all at once. I would expect e3 to showcase what we've seen in possibly a playable build I would assume, but tthat doesn't mean there's not other features, modes, characters, and story type stuff to reveal. People seem to be judging it as a full game when it's literally only been less than 1 and a half minutes shown of actual footage.

Of course people are going to give their initial feelings and opinions, but it's as if some people are writing this game off, when hardly anything of the game has been revealed.

That's what Street Fighter 4 did, in a way. Except they also ignored one of their 2D games as well. Let's just wait and see what E3 has to show. After all, the video wasn't that long.

I don't know whether the fact that MK fans in general can't be pleased is a good thing or a bad thing. Lets touch every aspect in a small rant.

1. MK Reboot - people crying about it being a reboot that adds nothing new story wise or gameplay wise. Yet if things were added and the story was tweaked. People would nitpick those to death because it wasn't what they wanted.

2. MK Reboot - people crying about it not being nostalgia enough with actual actors/actresses playing the parts of the characters like in entries 1-3. Yet would probably bitch depending on who played them.

3. People bitch about Armageddon yet will complain if this roster isn't at least 25-30 deep.

4. People complain its not gothic enough anymore. Since when did MK always have to be super gothic? If anything now that WB owns it, who knows what the future may hold. If anything I think the fanbase fears it going from a gothic fighter to just a fighter like how Resident Evil fans have been divided because of the horror to action horror the series course took.

In a way I wish Capcom would've bought it only to see the fan base get riled up about all the characters looking anime-ish in the inevitable crossover with Street Fighter.

As it stands now, as long as the gameplay is fast and fluid much like MK 1-3 were and not as clunky as MK4 onwards got. Then im set. As far as a roster list goes.

I really expect a good mix up of old and current.

After having watched the trailer a few times, I gotta say that I'm... confused.

I say that because I thought this upcoming MK was gonna be wiping the slate clean, yet the same characters are returning, same arenas, fighting engine resembling MK vs DC.

Hopefully we will get a clearer picture from Boon and company at E3 about this game, and what is the direction of the storyline. I'm inclined to think that this game is after MKA, simply because how could it be before the events of MKA without completely jacking up the storyline? Unless they're going to change the supposed canon storylines of the last decade?

As far as gameplay goes, it doesn't look too bad, but we'll see.

I'm caring more about the storyline more so than the gameplay cuz after MKA, I sort of lost almost all hope that Boon and co. would actually make a good solid, fighting engine. To be fair though, the time constraints really didn't help, so I'd like to give the team another chance to make things right only now because this time around, they actually have the time to build the game and refine it extensively.

I do wanna ask though... Some people have said about the game that we'll see how it turns out 9 months from now? Where are people getting this number? Did I miss where it was said that it was going to come out March of 2011?

You people amaze me. You "real" MK fans are the only people in the world who want a good story, and will settle with decent gameplay.

Oh well, maybe Baraka will still have dreadlocks, if he's in the game.

Yes, KungLao223...

lol We're not "settling" for decent gameplay. What have we been doing for all these years, for more than a decade? Endlessly yelling out for good gameplay, actually SHOWING the MK team some of the problems of passed games, hoping and pleading about what could be done and what needs to be done to make the fighting engine solid. After over a decade of having done this and pleading as a community, and still we've gotten arguably maybe 1 decent engine (UMK3), what would possibly make you or anyone else think it will be any different this time around? Based on what?

Having said all that, I'll wait and see what this game is about simply because now they actually have extra time to work on this game, unlike recent years.

What's your point? Because I don't shit my pants over weither this combo system is in or that one? Some of us have different reasons for playing Mortal Kombat, and some of us find different styles of gameplay better, and some of us just play the game differently than you. Who cares if I don't try and master every combo and go online and try to defeat the world, thus needing the best fighting game engine known to man?

I play Mortal Kombat to use projectiles and special moves in strategic ways to defeat my friends in combat, while mixing up 4 hit combos when I get the opportunity. I then get excited to rip their head off or light them on fire. I also enjoy reading the story and how each character plays a role. Mortal Kombat has my favorite cast of characters, so naturally I am gonna have more fun playing as Sub Zero on a decent gameplay engine, than I would as Ryu in Street Fighter on a great fighting engine.

Gameplay is important to me, but it's not the ONLY important thing to me. If you made the best fighting game engine, and the characters, presentation, and story were shit...the game would be fun, but not better than MK in my own personal enjoyment factor.

People just love to throw around the "true MK fan" line as if there is a damn scroll somewhere with strict rules of being a Mortal Kombat fan. Well excuse me if I never got the memo.

I love how whenever the gameplay turns out broken or worse, the storyline is always blamed.

Not the worthless gimmicks like Motor or Chess Kombat. Not trying to cram in 30-60 characters, each one with two updated outfits and two Fatalities. Not rushed deadlines.

It's always the damn story fucking them up.

If only they made a game where they didn't bother with the story at all...then I'm sure the gameplay would be perfect and balanced. Oh wait...they did.
It was Armageddon. And how did that turn out?

I agree with you. I think the reason that MK has failed in recent years is due to the lack of time they were able to take to develop the games. However, I also think that if they didn't focus on the story so much, and took time to develop the gameplay and the fighting itself, it would be for the better.

I, like most of you, was attracted to MK by the story. However, recently, the story has become obsolete to me anyway. After Deadly Alliance, the story dropped for me. Deception was ok, but not that great overall. They hyped up the Dragon King and he "shit the bed" so to speak. And I'm just trying to forget Armageddon even happened.

What I'm trying to say, I guess, is that if I could have a unique, smooth, and overall quality fighting game, I would settle with having a lackluster story. I don't play fighting games for the story anyway. If I want an in-depth story, I'll go play God of War.

That's why I was excited about the "Rebirth" trailer. I figured they would go with a rather unoriginal, yet realistic storyline and concern themselves more with the gameplay. Now instead, it seems we are getting Mortal Kombat 9: Shaolin Monks 2.

I sort of like what I see so far. I have my complaints, but many of them have already been stated numerous times.

A completely different group of team members work on the story than the ones who work on gameplay. THERE IS NO INTERFERENCE.

Making the story good doesn't take any of the developers' attention away from making the fighting mechanics. It's not like there's only 3 people building the game and they have to take turns on each part, for Christ's sake.

Use your brains. This is common sense.

Due to the games we've been getting recently, I tend to disagree.

Everyone wanted a reboot and now you're all complaining about how this is the same old crap. ...Duh. What did you expect? We're back to day 1 just like you wanted.

Anyway, I think it looks fun. I'm just bummed about Mileena's appearance. I wanted something new for her. Her moves looks great though. Same old shit but flashier.

Also, why Nightwolf? Does that mean we'll be seeing Stryker again too?

I noticed Kira in the background... Rats! I wish she was playable.

Glad Shao Kahn is in. He looks hot.

Overall, I think all hope is not lost. This is only a glimpse. Just sucks that the game isn't out until next year.

The tag team idea is stupid, btw.

That sentence doesn't even make sense. You disagree with a fact? Do you also go outside and tell the sky "You're red!" or take a drink of water and say "this tastes like Pepsi"?

There are programmers who create the gameplay and there are writers who create the story and those two groups don't share people so there's no possible way that working on the story could mean less time spent on the gameplay. That's SCIENCE FACT.

To all the people who say the most important part for them in a Mk game is the story and who first got attracted to the games by the story.
The first time you actually played or watched someone play a Mk game, or saw a screenshot, and you thought it looked good, was it really the story that impressed you?
And when you saw see a new screen shot or trailer for a new Mk game is it really the story that first pops into your head? Not the gameplay?

To me it was the graphics, gameplay and the gore. Yes I admit it, the gore was a factor. Granted I was only 11 at the time the first game was released and gore was not very common in games. But Yes a bit of gore can be fun in fitting games.

People sure like Mk for different reasons that's for sure.
I wonder how many Street Fighter, Tekken or King of Fighters fans like those games for their story..
When I play a fighting game I usually think about the feel of the combat. A good story can elevate the game, but it's not the most important part for me in a fighting game.

Or delusional schisophrenia.

This is exactly how I would have to describe the situation. Schisophrenic. It is just mind boggling: this might technically be the best Mortal Kombat since the haydays, yet I have found nothing that is new. The exact amount of bitching going on from all three sides doesn't help either.

Don't worry. This is true for most people. It just so happens that the MK story buffs are just very verbal around here.

If story was vitally important then the past few games would not have sold well. No one buys a game just for the text and dialogue.

That's really what it's like man..."you sweep the floor, I'll wash the dishes". Everybody has their own part of the bigger job. And when we're done, we might have something we can sell to people.

Now, some of the times you'll see a writer who is originally a better designer like John Vogel. But we knew MkvsDc had like 200-300+ people working on that game (was it more?). MKA had at least 150 I remember.

Why so many workers, and still the disappointment? Because that's how hard it is to conceptualize, design, and program a game with all it's moving parts under a strict budget and time constraints. Because everybody needs to get paid, and the company wants their product out there on time.

Then fans want extra content, DLC this or that....and oops, let's not forget about those bios! We'll get those right out to ya folks!

They couldn't do it....It's alot of freakin' work man!....too much, even. lol

LMFAO @ all the defensive fans clinging onto a dying franchise trying to justify the trailer in every sense! lmao...

I honestly love you guys, i feel like i should be eating popcorn while i read this thread.

i personally, and i stress the word PERSONALLY am not impressed and expected alot from what i can judge from the trailer. Yes, i know we didnt play the game yet. Buts its not hard to see the graphics are extremely dated & the animation looks like MKvDC, which was stiff and robotic. The character modeling for a game that is built around using realistic human sprites to emphasis gore just doesn't work. You just dont get the effect. i personally find it more disgusting to watch MK1 rather than that trailer...now im sure the blood will be pumped up in game play (but hopefully it doesnt still look like popcorn).

The biggest disconnect with MK (which is noticeable from MK4) is what its trying to accomplish. Maybe Ed was told to make a game that looks childish but plays adult-like but that whithin itself is the issue. For example, the Kung Lao fatal at the end had me laugh my ass off...where as for a game like MK to work and give you the full effect i should be looking at that being disgusted and wanting to turn my head.
MK just doesn't need a dark undertone, it also needs an very dark overtone. The atmosphere isnt there. The MORTAL in mortal kombat is missing.

The point im trying to basically drill home is that yes, this MK game looks like the kinda MK game that will get it invited to the kool kids party (like MKvDC did), but MK should never try to be the "kool" kid, MK should always be the weirdo goth kid who eats lunch alone.

Sry Boon you tried to bring back a nostalgic feel to MK but you fell short. I feel cheated.

If you disagree then that fine, i already spent a TON of money on mk related things (MK2/3 soundtracks, rare action-figures, rare comic books, every single game ever made...and so on), Im sure me skipping this one wont hurt Boon or WB's pocket.

i can FINALLY now throw in the towel and not feel guilty about giving MK four different chances to impress me and it didnt. Hopefully a STRONG E3 showing will help change my first impressions.

That's another good point in a virtual ocean of good points you've made lately, man. Seriously. From the Rebirth thread to this one, you post alot of well-reasoned and well-argued points without coming off negatively in the least. A lot of respect from me to you.

I just watched the HD trailer (I thought that I watched it before, but apparently not) and I have to say that the graphics are much better than I thought previously. To think that they'll get even better is absolutely a positive sign.

Of course, this is listed on Facebook as the E3 Trailer, so I have to wonder how much more they'll actually show. I agree that this obviously isn't the entire game and there's much more to show of this game over the next nine months.

Obviously I hope to see new characters, gameplay, story, game modes etc and I also hope that it's not set in the past like "between MK2 and MK3" or something like that.

I just think that with all of the rhetoric coming from WB and from Boon about how they're "innovating on the past" and giving respect to the classics or whatever the exact quote was, that coupled with the return to 2D, calling it simply "Mortal Kombat" (right now anyways, who knows, that could change), and what's been shown kinda leads me to the whole "reboot" idea and that's more of what has me worried than anything else.

Still, you're absolutely right. There's much more of this game that we haven't seen thus far, so to actually THINK that it's a reboot right now or that it's set in the past, just because of what's been shown so far would be stupid. So I'll hold off. I do like the fighting that I've seen so far, and it's MK, so I'm not going to simply dismiss it outright by any stretch of the imagination.