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LucaTurilli
04/13/2011 12:03 PM (UTC)
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For the love of the Lord, I love dirty sexy chicks. But does EVERY chick have to be dirty sexy?

Variety is the spice of life, remember.


Do you honestly find it that dirty?

I think it's more cute than anything. It's not like she does anything other than a little spin.
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Bryden88
04/13/2011 12:29 PM (UTC)
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Consider the following.

Mileena is the slutty one. She's also the horribly disfigured, nasty, evil little bitch who is just a wee bit unstable.

Kitana is the proper one. She's arguably the main female character (or Sonya could be considered that)

Jade could be called Kitana's sidekick. Unlike Kitana however, Jade isn't the princess, she isn't restricted, and she's a bit more exotic. Why shouldn't she have fun? Kitana is serious, Mileena is batshit crazy, why shouldn't Jade enjoy herself? Jade's win pose is sensual, not sexual. If you want sexual, watch a porno, this is not that. Jade is a sensual character, and I think that's a GOOD part of her character.

Women being sexy isn't degrading. I can guarantee there are plenty of women who agree, and shouldn't their opinion matter more?

Now, if Kitana and Jade were portrayed as being airheads and only damsels in distress? Then I could understand the outrage.

But if a character has sex appeal AND can beat the piss out of someone, and have a decent story, then IMO, they could go fully nude for all I care.
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04/13/2011 12:34 PM (UTC)
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LucaTurilli Wrote:
samuhai Wrote:
For the love of the Lord, I love dirty sexy chicks. But does EVERY chick have to be dirty sexy?

Variety is the spice of life, remember.


Do you honestly find it that dirty?

I think it's more cute than anything. It's not like she does anything other than a little spin.


I was just simplifying and generalizing with that statement :)

This isn't particularly sexy/dirty/skanky. It just feels unnecessary and out of place. It's just really random... like Kitana's wink. Neither are unjustifiable character wise (as people have said, Jade surely has a fun side etc)....

It just doesn't feel right for me. Not bad, but not right.

They already went sexy/provocative/seductive outfit with her. It just feels a bit... hackneyed... to use her staff to pole-dance + pose. Like I said, it just doesn't fit with what she's just done (that is, bit the livin' shit out of someone)


(on that note, kitana's winking, jade's twirling. strykers throwing grenades and jax is getting patriotic. these people are psychopaths wow)
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Jaded-Raven
04/13/2011 12:36 PM (UTC)
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Bryden88 Wrote:
Consider the following.

Mileena is the slutty one. She's also the horribly disfigured, nasty, evil little bitch who is just a wee bit unstable.

Kitana is the proper one. She's arguably the main female character (or Sonya could be considered that)

Jade could be called Kitana's sidekick. Unlike Kitana however, Jade isn't the princess, she isn't restricted, and she's a bit more exotic. Why shouldn't she have fun? Kitana is serious, Mileena is batshit crazy, why shouldn't Jade enjoy herself? Jade's win pose is sensual, not sexual. If you want sexual, watch a porno, this is not that. Jade is a sensual character, and I think that's a GOOD part of her character.

Women being sexy isn't degrading. I can guarantee there are plenty of women who agree, and shouldn't their opinion matter more?

Now, if Kitana and Jade were portrayed as being airheads and only damsels in distress? Then I could understand the outrage.

But if a character has sex appeal AND can beat the piss out of someone, and have a decent story, then IMO, they could go fully nude for all I care.


This. ^^
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MKKitana
04/13/2011 12:41 PM (UTC)
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Really dont like the winnning pole-dance. Looks laughably bad IMO. Probably the worst victory pose yet.

This game's not doing much to bring Jade out of my bottom 5 five characters.
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LucaTurilli
04/13/2011 01:07 PM (UTC)
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samuhai Wrote:
(on that note, kitana's winking, jade's twirling. strykers throwing grenades and jax is getting patriotic. these people are psychopaths wow)


Honestly, I believe that they're doing these kinds of win poses to add some flare and differentiate the characters.

Sure, each character could do a generic pose, where they twirl their weapons or do some kung-fu movement, but that shit is boring.

No one gave a damn about any of Street Fighter IV's win poses. Why? Because they're just a bunch of generic kung-fu flips and punches.

People are noticing the vibrance of the personality portrayal in Mortal Kombat's win poses, regardless if they feel that the pose is appropriate for the character at all.

To me, this is just the developers showing off a little creativity and having some fun, and I thoroughly support and enjoy it.
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04/13/2011 01:32 PM (UTC)
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Really dont like the winnning pole-dance. Looks laughably bad IMO. Probably the worst victory pose yet.

This game's not doing much to bring Jade out of my bottom 5 five characters.


Said somebody who likes Sub-Zero and Kitana YUCK and hates everybody that opposes Kitana for being cooler than the princess herself, thats a fact bitch.

Anyway Iove the Jade poledance, can't believe so many people dislike it, its original and fun. What else you want?
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Espio872
04/13/2011 01:52 PM (UTC)
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I kinda hate it and kinda love it. It's lame and unnecessary, but on the other hand it's contributing to the Heavy Metalization of MK.

So I guess some kind of angry thumbs up.


This is exactly how I feel, when I first saw it I laughed and was like cool pose, it's very unique but it's just so over the top.
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04/13/2011 02:04 PM (UTC)
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Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed fansite, I have one thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, look at Jade's legs. Notice those golden chains on her thighs? See how they're not affected by gravity? Now think about it; that does not make sense!

I mean, why would chains, golden chains at that, stick to her thighs like that, and not slide down? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with Jade's pole twirl? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with the pole twirl! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a Frost fan, and I'm talkin' about Jade's golden chains! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're on this board deliberatin' and conjugatin' Jade's pole twirl, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed fansite, it does not make sense! The defense rests.
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Jaded-Raven
04/13/2011 02:08 PM (UTC)
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Siroj Wrote:
Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed fansite, I have one thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, look at Jade's legs. Notice those golden chains on her thighs? See how they're not affected by gravity? Now think about it; that does not make sense!

I mean, why would chains, golden chains at that, stick to her thighs like that, and not slide down? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with Jade's pole twirl? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with the pole twirl! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a Frost fan, and I'm talkin' about Jade's golden chains! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're on this board deliberatin' and conjugatin' Jade's pole twirl, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed fansite, it does not make sense! The defense rests.


I declare her GUILTY for having golden chains that do not have anything to do with her win pose.
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Espio872
04/13/2011 02:17 PM (UTC)
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Jade's flashy style is going to make her a good tag team partner for Johnny Cage.
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04/13/2011 02:19 PM (UTC)
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Espio872 Wrote:
Jade's flashy style is going to make her a good tag team partner for Johnny Cage.


You just got JADED
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Jaded-Raven
04/13/2011 02:21 PM (UTC)
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Fenix Wrote:
Espio872 Wrote:
Jade's flashy style is going to make her a good tag team partner for Johnny Cage.


You just got JADED


It... doesn't really have the same effect as "caged"...
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04/13/2011 02:22 PM (UTC)
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Fenix Wrote:
Espio872 Wrote:
Jade's flashy style is going to make her a good tag team partner for Johnny Cage.


You just got JADED


I can dig itgrin
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nok_su_kow
04/13/2011 02:27 PM (UTC)
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Ah her sticky chains...seems like something they could have easily modeled and attached physics too. I'll be unlocking her and Kitana's classics asap regardless.
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Ekrad
04/13/2011 04:36 PM (UTC)
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I agree with those who say it doesn't work very well with the tone of this particular game. It would've fit in just fine in some of the other MK games though.
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nok_su_kow
04/13/2011 04:40 PM (UTC)
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She seems like a playful, exotic and deadly character. I don't see what the problem is personally.
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04/13/2011 09:54 PM (UTC)
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Siroj Wrote:
Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed fansite, I have one thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, look at Jade's legs. Notice those golden chains on her thighs? See how they're not affected by gravity? Now think about it; that does not make sense!

I mean, why would chains, golden chains at that, stick to her thighs like that, and not slide down? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with Jade's pole twirl? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with the pole twirl! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a Frost fan, and I'm talkin' about Jade's golden chains! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're on this board deliberatin' and conjugatin' Jade's pole twirl, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed fansite, it does not make sense! The defense rests.


Well, that answers that.
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04/13/2011 09:57 PM (UTC)
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Siroj Wrote:
Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed fansite, I have one thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, look at Jade's legs. Notice those golden chains on her thighs? See how they're not affected by gravity? Now think about it; that does not make sense!

I mean, why would chains, golden chains at that, stick to her thighs like that, and not slide down? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with Jade's pole twirl? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with the pole twirl! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a Frost fan, and I'm talkin' about Jade's golden chains! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're on this board deliberatin' and conjugatin' Jade's pole twirl, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed fansite, it does not make sense! The defense rests.


haha! well done. Chewbacca defense FTW
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RedSumac
04/13/2011 11:44 PM (UTC)
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Completely agree with what *Kano* and NoobSaibot5 have said.

This wininnig pose wasn't neccesary at all. There should be some sort of limit how far you can go with certain things before they go tasteless and unneccesary. MK-Team was always wlaking on the edge with such things, but in this game they semmingly go over the edge in the bad sense of the word.

LucaTurilli Wrote:

Mileena? Deteriorated?

Ugh, this is when I have to say that you don't understand the character. Or your being prude has blinded you to the obvious.


Mileena has been so one-dimensional until this series. Her only draw point was that she wanted to be her sister. Now she's got that AND a wonderfully demented personality to boot.

Looks like you don't now MK that much. In MKD Millena prety much got away from being evil Kitana clone and become a deceiving and cunning leader of the Edenian army.

As NoobSaibot5 put it:
Arguably the best Mileena ever looked was Deception in her Primary outfit, when her sexuality was more of a playful nature than a lascivious one and her intellect and tact were just as sharp as her teeth.

In this game she was as far from one dimensinal character as possible. Actually it was the first time when she had any character outside of her hatred for Kitana.

In MK9 she was completely degraded to the insane sex clown with not much interest and brains. If that's what you call character development and making them not-one-dimensional...then all I can do is too laugh at your face.

One more thing: calling people "prudes" only because they have they own standards is childish. Though it's not the first time when you demonstrate those qualities.
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iAmEFFeX
04/13/2011 11:49 PM (UTC)
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Victory pose looks cool to me. It seems like people are overreacting. I don't get all the "whore" and "slut" comments. Really uncalled for...
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04/13/2011 11:51 PM (UTC)
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iAmEFFeX Wrote:
Victory pose looks cool to me. It seems like people are overreacting. I don't get all the "whore" and "slut" comments. Really uncalled for...


Just don't say weed..... Slut and whore is okay.
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bad kids, bad kids, whatcha gonna do sequel doesn't know what to do when he gets straight up shited by you.

04/14/2011 12:32 AM (UTC)
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too many self righteous pricks on this site

she slides down a damn pole and thats uncalled for and wrong but people getting mame and destroyed out of existence isnt?

please use logic, sexyness isa good thing
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stinky_thc_cloud
04/14/2011 12:38 AM (UTC)
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UGHH that PORNSTAR song made its way into America thats a shame. Ps that band is some home grown canadian poop.
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eroslove
04/14/2011 06:38 AM (UTC)
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It seems that both sides of this "debate" have been making caricatures of the arguments presented.

You're not a prude if you think MK has oversexualized its female characters. Guess what? It has.

Jade's winning animation does not scream harlotry. It's playful.

However, I object to consistently calling Jade an "exotic" warrior as if that's a form of empowerment. Yeah, because calling the only female of color in the cast "exotic" isn't problematic at all. *eye roll*

Also, sometimes the objectification of women as sexually dominant is a form of power, and sometimes it is not. Mortal Kombat oscillates between the two sides of this coin. That is to say, there can never be a definitive "answer" to the question of MK's sexism.

So IMO, denying the validity of the other side's point seems silly.
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