Vengeance was actually an ok ppv. A hell of allot better than the GAB was (I still don't like JBL). I'm happy Benoit beat Triple H, even if Eugene helped just a bit, Edge beating Orton was kickass, and I enjoyed the tag match even though those French fuckers won. Did anyone see how stiff that superkick Victoria gave to Molly was? Man that had to have been real, it knocked Molly out for like a few seconds.
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* Mick Foley is very upset with Vince McMahon for allowing the negative comments Ric Flair made about him to appear in his book.

* The Mordecai gimmick has been dropped altogether. Kevin Fertig will not be wrestling under that name while training in OVW.

* Rikishi is ready to return, but rumor has it that WWE may just let him sit out the final months of his contract before releasing him.

* Kid Kash is telling friends that WWE has expressed interest in him, and may sign with them if he receives his release from TNA.

* TNA has expressed interest in using Scott Steiner once his WWE contract expires this fall.

* Getting booed last night at WWE Vengeance isn't an isolated incident for new Intercontinental champion Edge. In fact, there is serious consideration right now to turning Edge heel, as he has been getting heel responses from crowds despite it not being the intended response.

Edge turning heel has been in the talking stages for a while, and at one point if plans went through as scheduled, Edge would already have turned heel and be working with Chris Benoit right now as a heel.

There is still talk of a major makeover for Edge including a new haircut, brand new overall appearance, and different persona. We'll have to wait and see.

TheMkGeek Wrote: * Getting booed last night at WWE Vengeance isn't an isolated incident for new Intercontinental champion Edge. In fact, there is serious consideration right now to turning Edge heel, as he has been getting heel responses from crowds despite it not being the intended response. Edge turning heel has been in the talking stages for a while, and at one point if plans went through as scheduled, Edge would already have turned heel and be working with Chris Benoit right now as a heel. There is still talk of a major makeover for Edge including a new haircut, brand new overall appearance, and different persona. We'll have to wait and see.

FASCINATING!!!


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So is Mordecai gone? Jesus, I hope so.

They better bring Rikishi back, damn it. He's the classic fat guy.

I hope Scott Steiner goes to TNA! Even though I can't watch it, at least he'd be keeping a carreer, and I guess that's best for him.

I think Edge turning heel is IMO, the only thing the WWE can do with him. Because first of all, he sucks and I don't like him- and aparantally, I'm not the only one since he's been getting booed at lately, thank god- , yet he's the IC champion.
Not to mention he had that little disagreement with Benoit a few weeks ago (or rather, last week, for us portuguese) and I think a feud between the two would be good, so the Rabid Wolverrine could wipe the floor with Mr. Awsome. Screw Edge, screw him many times over, Orton deserved the title way more then Edge.

A make-over could be good, maybe he'd stop sucking.

TheMkGeek Wrote: Vengeance was actually an ok ppv. A hell of allot better than the GAB was (I still don't like JBL). I'm happy Benoit beat Triple H, even if Eugene helped just a bit, Edge beating Orton was kickass, and I enjoyed the tag match even though those French fuckers won. Did anyone see how stiff that superkick Victoria gave to Molly was? Man that had to have been real, it knocked Molly out for like a few seconds. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ * Mick Foley is very upset with Vince McMahon for allowing the negative comments Ric Flair made about him to appear in his book. * The Mordecai gimmick has been dropped altogether. Kevin Fertig will not be wrestling under that name while training in OVW. * Rikishi is ready to return, but rumor has it that WWE may just let him sit out the final months of his contract before releasing him. * Kid Kash is telling friends that WWE has expressed interest in him, and may sign with them if he receives his release from TNA. * TNA has expressed interest in using Scott Steiner once his WWE contract expires this fall. * Getting booed last night at WWE Vengeance isn't an isolated incident for new Intercontinental champion Edge. In fact, there is serious consideration right now to turning Edge heel, as he has been getting heel responses from crowds despite it not being the intended response. Edge turning heel has been in the talking stages for a while, and at one point if plans went through as scheduled, Edge would already have turned heel and be working with Chris Benoit right now as a heel. There is still talk of a major makeover for Edge including a new haircut, brand new overall appearance, and different persona. We'll have to wait and see.

I don't get what all the hate on Edge is about. If its because of his charater than thats fine. But Edge is a awesome wrestler. Remember his matches with Angle, Eddie, Chavo and Benoit in 2002? those were all damn good matches. And his match with Kane at Backlash was pretty good to.

Edge is a MUCH better wrestler than Orton. the only great match Orton has ever been in was the Hardcore match at Backlash. and that was a gimick match. all his regular matches has been "eh" to decent sometimes. he was becoming a boring IC Champ anyways. actually he was a boring IC Champ sence the begining of 2004. I was waiting for anyone to take the belt off him. thank god it was Edge. whos a hell of alot better wrestler than Orton is. no one can't argue that

The thing is, as awsome as Edge was BEFORE, ever since he's come back he hasn't been that good, and IMO, simply didn't deserve to be the one taking the IC from Orton (although I do agree that Orton had to lose it). He's been an asshole lately, his overall persona, etc, and he was the reason why him and Benoit lost the tag team titles to those clowns, La Resistance.

I just don't like him and I don't think he's that good a wrestler, anyway...

Just a quick question not regarding last night's ppv. Does anyone know what happened to "Bull Buchannon (B2)?" The last time I saw of him was when John Sena (his former partner) and Rodney Mack both double teamed him, ramming him shoulder first into a pole years ago on Smackdown.

B2's largest role was when he was a member of Steven Richard's "Right To Censor." If B2 were to return, the WWE could do a good fued between him and Cena, though it might be a tad too old for some fans to remember.

If anyone has any info on the current whereabous of B2, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Zentile, Don't be hatin' Edge. The man is a great wrestler. As for his current personality, I say good for him, it's about time he had an attitude change, and given the current direction the WWE is giving him, I can't wait to see what Edge will do next.

sinlessknowledge Wrote: Just a quick question not regarding last night's ppv. Does anyone know what happened to "Bull Buchannon (B2)?" The last time I saw of him was when John Sena (his former partner) and Rodney Mack both double teamed him, ramming him shoulder first into a pole years ago on Smackdown. B2's largest role was when he was a member of Steven Richard's "Right To Censor." If B2 were to return, the WWE could do a good fued between him and Cena, though it might be a tad too old for some fans to remember. If anyone has any info on the current whereabous of B2, I'd greatly appreciate it.

B2 was also with the Big Bossman as his partner. I have no idea myself where he is now. I think he had a brief stay in TNA. He's likely doing Indie shows or is in Japan. A feud between him and Cena would be interesting, but he's been gone to long to just show up and start a feud.

Id have to disagree with you Olyimpic_hero, Orton did have one great match and that was against HBK at Unforgiven, it was the match of the night!

But the Edge thing, I agree

olympic_Hero Wrote: I don't get what all the hate on Edge is about. If its because of his charater than thats fine. But Edge is a awesome wrestler. Remember his matches with Angle, Eddie, Chavo and Benoit in 2002? those were all damn good matches. And his match with Kane at Backlash was pretty good to. Edge is a MUCH better wrestler than Orton. the only great match Orton has ever been in was the Hardcore match at Backlash. and that was a gimick match. all his regular matches has been "eh" to decent sometimes. he was becoming a boring IC Champ anyways. actually he was a boring IC Champ sence the begining of 2004. I was waiting for anyone to take the belt off him. thank god it was Edge. whos a hell of alot better wrestler than Orton is. no one can't argue that

Official WWE RAW Preview From WWE.com:
LOOK OUT, EUGENE
July 12, 2004

Judging by the look on Triple H's face after losing his match against Chris Benoit at Vengeance, Monday night may not be a good one for honorary Evolution member Eugene. Just prior to the Game's loss, he was inadvertently hit with a steel chair by Eugene. Undoubtedly, Triple H will be looking for somebody to blame for the loss, chances are that person will be Eugene.

WWE.com has just learned that the Highlight Reel returns to Monday Night RAW tonight with two huge guests. Y2J will welcome Lita and the potential father of her baby, Kane.

Speaking of Kane, Matt Hardy pulled off the biggest single's pay-per-view victory of his career, pinning the mighty monster. After the match, Hardy told Lita that he had to figure some things out and that she should stay far away from him while he does this. Will Lita listen to Matt? Or will she once again attempt to reconcile with her man? Find out on Monday Night RAW.

Edge regained Intercontinental glory on Sunday night, pinning Randy Orton to capture the title. Where does the new Intercontinental Champion go from here? He tries to keep good on his word is where. On RAW, the new Intercontinental Champion will continue his battle against Evolution when he takes on Batista. Will the big man be Edge's next victim? Find out on RAW.

Watch Monday Night RAW at 9/8 CT on Spike TV to find out.

Also...
Don't forget to check out the $250,000 RAW Diva Search.

TheMkGeek Wrote: Also... Don't forget to check out the $250,000 RAW Diva Search.

Huh. Dozens of blondes with fake breasts and no personalities? No thank you!



AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! Now that's better!


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i love edge...one of the best out there right now. plus he's something pretty to look at...very pretty

ghostdragon Wrote: TheMkGeek Wrote: Also... Don't forget to check out the $250,000 RAW Diva Search. Huh. Dozens of blondes with fake breasts and no personalities? No thank you! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! Now that's better! GD

LOL! I like that pic

I'm finding that I don't care about the $250,000 RAW Diva Search. It's pointless. Sure there are nice ladies, but I think that anyone male or female who wants to get into wrestling should find another way other than these stupid contests, Tough Enough anyone? Terrible crap that was.

TheMkGeek Wrote: ghostdragon Wrote: TheMkGeek Wrote: Also... Don't forget to check out the $250,000 RAW Diva Search. Huh. Dozens of blondes with fake breasts and no personalities? No thank you! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! Now that's better! GD LOL! I like that pic I'm finding that I don't care about the $250,000 RAW Diva Search. It's pointless. Sure there are nice ladies, but I think that anyone male or female who wants to get into wrestling should find another way other than these stupid contests, Tough Enough anyone? Terrible crap that was.

Yeah I'd love to go a couple rounds wit..... *drooling* oh sorry! Uhhhhhhhh.... what was I gonna say?

Oh! Well I think what Tough Enough did was give people the true experience of what the biz is all about. They didn't get a free ride either.


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To quote my Friend GraveDigger from The Pit here is what he said about Tough Enough:

That reminds me of why i watched Tough Enough. I was interested in seeing how things work (and wondering why it was all rich kids that were picked). But i couldn't help but laugh because they were having so much trouble, And complaining about alot of things that i do for fun!

But my biggest beef about "Tough Enough" is that you had to send in a video tape of yourself... I'm kinda poor... But i'm sure i would have won... Except "Tough Enough" 2... Or was it 3? But it was two girls who won. The guy running the show said "We never said that we would pick a guy". But that's bull! in the commercials for all three "Tough Enoughs", It said "One Man, And One Girl will recieve WWE contracts".
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GraveDigger is 100% right.Dragon Points for him.

reading the results tonight. I just couldn't help but shake my head to a "Chris Benoit vs Eugene for the World Heavyweight Championship" match. How can a retard get a World Heavyweight title shot? at first Eugene was pretty funny but now, they're really overexposing him. last week he was the GM of Raw, at Vengeance he was involve in the Main-Event on PPV mind you, and now, he got a World Title shot on Raw. I mean, shouldn't guys like Jericho,Edge and Kane be getting Eugene's push. the fact that they're giving a main-event push to a guy fresh out of OVW who has a gimick of a retard really boggles my mind. not to say Eugene isn't funny. its a great charater but they are REALLY using him extreamly wrong. if they keep overexposing him like this. people are just gonna get bored with him, fans arn't gonna response to him and eventually the WWE will end up firing him. such a shame


I have a feeling that SmackDown! is gonna be a much better show this week. well, a much better Main-Event anyways.

olympic_Hero Wrote: I have a feeling that SmackDown! is gonna be a much better show this week. well, a much better Main-Event anyways.

I am looking forwared to the SD main event. Steel cages are always a good show.

IT WAS A SET-UP BY THE GAME to have eugene in the main event so he could get eugene back

TheMkGeek Wrote: * The Mordecai gimmick has been dropped altogether. Kevin Fertig will not be wrestling under that name while training in OVW.

A friend of mine who loves Mordecai asked me to ask you where did you read about Mordecai leaving?

I didn't mind Raw actually. Except for the lame main event, it was an ok, solid show. I'm actually looking forward to SD this week, however, if that stupid fucking sob JBL keeps the title, my boycott of SD will be permanent.
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- Gail Kim was injured on 7/3 in Saskatoon.

- Eddie Guerrero pulled his hamstring on 7/4 but because he’s the top face on Smackdown!, he ended up working the next night.

- Ultimo Dragon is still expected to return to WWE in the fall but there’s a chance that he may not return since the company isn’t too keen on pushing him and he’d rather be in Japan anyway due to other interests.

- Rodney Mack is expected to begin working at house shows in the near future to thisthingisdisableduate his progress.

- At last night’s RAW, the entire balcony was tarped off as ticket sales for the post-PPV show were far less than desireable.

Zentile Wrote: TheMkGeek Wrote: * The Mordecai gimmick has been dropped altogether. Kevin Fertig will not be wrestling under that name while training in OVW. A friend of mine who loves Mordecai asked me to ask you where did you read about Mordecai leaving?

Tell him to check out any wrestling news site.

Zentile Wrote: A friend of mine who loves Mordecai asked me to ask you where did you read about Mordecai leaving?

It was reported on mostly every wrestling news website. sence the news is pretty much old, its probabally gone now.

He was send to OVW for some more wrestling training. the plan still is to bring him back sometime after Summerslam and feud with Eddie Guerrero.

Hey People, Ive found this new site and in it you can view WWE Raw, WWE Smackdown! , and WWE PPV's that you missed!

www.sniper-wolf.net/wwe

black_dragon Wrote: Hey People, Ive found this new site and in it you can view WWE Raw, WWE Smackdown! , and WWE PPV's that you missed! www.sniper-wolf.net/wwe

That's a handy site.
Anyone got Flair's book yet? Is it any good? Apparently theres some people who don't care for it, like Bret Hart.

black_dragon Wrote: Hey People, Ive found this new site and in it you can view WWE Raw, WWE Smackdown! , and WWE PPV's that you missed! www.sniper-wolf.net/wwe

Looks like it may be a good site if you miss something. Too bad their servers are down at the moment.

Benoit vs HHH from Vengeance is up, and RAW is also up, also SD! is up

sub-zeromasta Wrote: black_dragon Wrote: Hey People, Ive found this new site and in it you can view WWE Raw, WWE Smackdown! , and WWE PPV's that you missed! www.sniper-wolf.net/wwe Looks like it may be a good site if you miss something. Too bad their servers are down at the moment.