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Olympic_Hero
07/15/2004 07:50 PM (UTC)
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The thought of JBL being the first wrestler to pin the Undertaker sence his return to the darkside just isn't right at all.

I might like JBL, but I'am a MUCH BIGGER fan of Undertaker and I would much rather have Taker keep his winning streak than to be pinned for the first time this early, espeically from JBL.

Undertaker HAS to win the title at Summerslam.
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Zentile
07/15/2004 10:14 PM (UTC)
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As good as Spike Dudley and Nunzio may be (I don't think Nunzio is a 'great cruiserweight' at all, btw), I think it was just wrong for them to beat Akio so easily. I mean, Sakoda wammed and choked Spike Dudley ilegally, yet he still pinned Akio? No, those fights are very wrong, and I think the two should go to Japan or something.


Anyway, I hope Bradshaw keeps the title from Taker.

And, in a Mordecai vs. Taker match? Taker all the way. I hate them both, and even though I hate the Undertaker more, I just don't think Mordecai would stand a chance.
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07/15/2004 10:27 PM (UTC)
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TheMkGeek Wrote:
Before I post some news, I want to run this by you: Suppose WWE does eventually make a Undertaker vs. Mordecai match, who do you think would win? Take that following points into consideration while you decide:

Undertaker:
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* 13 year veteran of WWE
* Loyal fan/cult following
* More popular/liked by his peers backstage, lockerroom leader
* Ready for retirement soon
* Hell even veterans make mistakes

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* Not as big a fanbase
* Rookie mistakes, green in the ring
* Not as liked backstage, tends to keep to himself, loner
* Still has his whole career ahead fo him



Losing to Mordecai surely wouldn't hurt The Undertaker's career and if they were put up a good match it could help Mordecai's career a lot. However, if you take logic into consideration - which the WWE often does not - The Undertaker beat Kane with relative ease at Wrestlemania XX, he beat the tag-team champions on The Great American Bash all by himself, he surely wouldn't loose to Mordecai. But I wouldn't find surprising if Mordecai were to beat The Undertaker, maybe it would give him the push he needs in his career.
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jade2004
07/15/2004 10:44 PM (UTC)
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i think mordecai would win just for the fact that its vinces character. it would help his career along i think.

as for a benoit v hhh match for summerslam! how stupid. if i see another heavyweight champ with hunter in it i will scream.

don't think that flairs book is out in the uk so i havn't got it yet but i do want it.

as for smackdown this week, im gonna miss. i have to go a wedding sad
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TheMkGeek
07/16/2004 01:20 AM (UTC)
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DamRho Wrote:

Losing to Mordecai surely wouldn't hurt The Undertaker's career and if they were put up a good match it could help Mordecai's career a lot. However, if you take logic into consideration - which the WWE often does not - The Undertaker beat Kane with relative ease at Wrestlemania XX, he beat the tag-team champions on The Great American Bash all by himself, he surely wouldn't loose to Mordecai. But I wouldn't find surprising if Mordecai were to beat The Undertaker, maybe it would give him the push he needs in his career.


That was the whole idea for Taker to beat Kane at Mania. Revenge from Survivor Series. I always thought Kane was weaker than Taker. Look at their previous matches. As for the Dudley's, Taker beat them with relative ease because that's part of the Deadman character, unstoppable, unbeatable. Mordecai sucks and doesn't deserve a push.

Jade2004, I can tell you that you didn't miss much. The main event was actually pretty good, but I hate JBL and with him still champ, my boycott of SD continues. I hope Eddie kicks the living shit out of Angle, that stupid sumbitch!

Zentile, any reason why you don't like Taker? The guy is a great star. Way better than JBl and I look for him to win at Summerslam. Or Guerrero.
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Olympic_Hero
07/16/2004 01:40 AM (UTC)
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Aw son of a bitch!

I just found out that they are gonna show some stupid ass Baseball game tonight instead of SmackDown!. now I'am gonna have to wait till saturday to watch SmackDown!. stupid UPN.
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DRFATALITY
07/16/2004 01:52 AM (UTC)
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I have a question about Kane and Undertaker.I may sound dumb for saying this but oh well.Are Kane and Taker really brothers?
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MetadragonX
07/16/2004 02:17 AM (UTC)
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olympic_Hero Wrote:
Aw son of a bitch!

I just found out that they are gonna show some stupid ass Baseball game tonight instead of SmackDown!. now I'am gonna have to wait till saturday to watch SmackDown!. stupid UPN.

Yea, its postponed where I live to. Damn.
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Olympic_Hero
07/16/2004 02:47 AM (UTC)
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Drfatality Wrote:
I have a question about Kane and Undertaker.I may sound dumb for saying this but oh well.Are Kane and Taker really brothers?


No their not brothers in real life. but when Kane actually had facial hair, he kind of looked like Undertaker.
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07/16/2004 04:08 AM (UTC)
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olympic_Hero Wrote:

Drfatality Wrote:
I have a question about Kane and Undertaker.I may sound dumb for saying this but oh well.Are Kane and Taker really brothers?

No their not brothers in real life. but when Kane actually had facial hair, he kind of looked like Undertaker.

Yeah, that is true. They did have a strong resemblance.
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Blade-Tsung
07/16/2004 04:13 AM (UTC)
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I missed Smackdown tonight :(

It looked pretty cool tho..

One question, what the Hell are they doing with the Dudleys? For the last 3 weeks it's just been a segment of them tryin to be cool with Spike. WTF? I understand, but just 3 weeks of them tryin to be cool with Spike but Spike not liking them...where are they going with this..
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Olympic_Hero
07/16/2004 08:22 AM (UTC)
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Damn, I'am hearing everywhere that SmackDown! was a solid show. and the cage match was damn good match. and I had to miss it because of some Baseball game I don't care about.

Life sucks doesn't it.
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Zentile
07/16/2004 08:33 AM (UTC)
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I hate the Undertaker simply because I can't stand anything supernatural in the WWE. I like it better when they have superstars that are realistic, like say, Chris Benoit, Jamie Noble, etc.


Ok guys, I'm gonna go check on WWE.com to see if Noble and Guerrero won that match... if not... I'm going to be angry at smackdown! more.
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Olympic_Hero
07/16/2004 08:56 AM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
I hate the Undertaker simply because I can't stand anything supernatural in the WWE. I like it better when they have superstars that are realistic, like say, Chris Benoit, Jamie Noble, etc.


Ok guys, I'm gonna go check on WWE.com to see if Noble and Guerrero won that match... if not... I'm going to be angry at smackdown! more.


I don't mind the supernatural stuff. I think some of those stuff are pretty cool and entertaining. I think those lighting bolts that always strucks the ring are wicked cool!. I always wonder how the hell they do that. And Taker's entrance is pretty supernatural, and its argubly the best entrance in the WWE today.
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Zentile
07/16/2004 09:17 AM (UTC)
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If you like supernatural entrances, yeah. But I'm sticking to Triple H's.

And bleh! I saw the results... Chavo and Noble lost. Can anyone tell me if it was Noble who got pinned?
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Olympic_Hero
07/16/2004 10:08 AM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
If you like supernatural entrances, yeah. But I'm sticking to Triple H's.

And bleh! I saw the results... Chavo and Noble lost. Can anyone tell me if it was Noble who got pinned?


yeah, Triple H's entrance is pretty cool to. another one of my favorites aswell.

I read that Spike Dudley pinned Jamie Noble.
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jade2004
07/16/2004 11:23 AM (UTC)
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proper ticked off about the eddie guerruo situation....if an Angle Vs Eddie match does happen at summerslam i hope eddie kicks his ass.

i can see a Cena Vs Reins on the cards too.

Yay! ric flairs book is out over here and i just bought it.
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Nikodemus
07/16/2004 01:05 PM (UTC)
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I hate Eddie but I have to say that frog spash off the top of the cage was crazy.

Also why is everyone hatin on Cena... he's pretty funny. I hate rap but I still enjoy his antics.
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Sub-ZeroMasta
07/16/2004 02:36 PM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
If you like supernatural entrances, yeah. But I'm sticking to Triple H's.

And bleh! I saw the results... Chavo and Noble lost. Can anyone tell me if it was Noble who got pinned?

Yea it was Spike that pinned Noble. By help of Bubby Ray kicking him in the nads.

Gotta love Noble's new ring attire too. Last week his trunks were orange with the Rebel flag on them. This week they were orange with 01 on the back like the General Lee car from Dukes Of Hazzard. I was rollin lolol.
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07/16/2004 03:01 PM (UTC)
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my predictions for summerslam matches

(smackdown)
(fatal four way title match)
the undertaker (with paul haymen) vs kurt angle vs eddie guerrero vs john bradshaw layfield

(raw)
(world heavyweight championship match)
chris benoit vs triple h

(smackdown)
(cruiserwieght championship match)
rey mysterio vs chavo guerrero

(raw)
(intercontinental championship match)
randy ortan (with flair) vs edge

(smackdown)
(handicap match)
buba ray dudly & d-von dudly vs spike dudly

(raw)
triple h, ric flair, randy ortan, batista
vs
eugene, chris benoit, william regal, edge

(smackdown)
(wwe tag championship)
pual londan & billy kidman vs
rey mysterio & rob van damn

(raw)
(wwe tag championship)
la resistance vs rhyno & tajiri

(smackdown)
(revange match)
john cena vs luther riegns

(raw)
(bitter friendship match)
chris jericho vs christian (with trish & tyson)

(smackdown)
(u.s champ up for grabs)
booker t vs john cena

(raw)
(revange)
kane vs shawn micheals & matt hardy

my predictions for wins

match 1: kurt angle
match 2: chris benoit
match 3: rey mysterio
match 4: edge
match 5: buba & d-von
match 6: eugene, william regal, chris benoit, edge
match 7: rey mysterio & rob van damn
match 8: rhyno & tajiri (god i hope so)
match 9: luther riegns
match 10: christian
match 11: booker t
match 12: shawn micheals

wow that was long but thats what im thinkin its gonna be anywa thats what im hopin for

so what do u guys think?

now i dont know if rey rey is the current cruiserwight champ i think he is

and im hopin shawn micheals comes back before summerslam they said he was gonna fued with kane
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Zentile
07/16/2004 04:14 PM (UTC)
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GOD DAMN IT! I AM SO FUCKING PISSED!
This has got to end, Jamie Noble needs to go ahead and kick Vince McMahon around for a bit.

And by the way, his attires are friggin cool! Have any of you seen another new attire of his, which is all black trunks but they say something on the back? I'd like to know what they say.
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Sub-ZeroMasta
07/16/2004 04:31 PM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
GOD DAMN IT! I AM SO FUCKING PISSED!
This has got to end, Jamie Noble needs to go ahead and kick Vince McMahon around for a bit.

And by the way, his attires are friggin cool! Have any of you seen another new attire of his, which is all black trunks but they say something on the back? I'd like to know what they say.

lolol.

But no I haven't seen the ones you are talking about. But i'm sure they are funny cuz I am loving the past two weeks ones.
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Zentile
07/16/2004 04:57 PM (UTC)
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They were actually cooler than funnier, they were just black and said something on the butt area in blue letters. I'd just love to know what they say so I can make this attire in a CAW.
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Sub-ZeroMasta
07/16/2004 05:14 PM (UTC)
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I'd just love to know what they say so I can make this attire in a CAW.

lol, indeed. That would be cool. You may be able to find a capture somewhere. Blade usually finds good screen caps from some site.
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TheMkGeek
07/16/2004 05:56 PM (UTC)
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SNAKE_EATER Wrote:
my predictions for summerslam matches

(smackdown)
(fatal four way title match)
the undertaker (with paul haymen) vs kurt angle vs eddie guerrero vs john bradshaw layfield

(raw)
(world heavyweight championship match)
chris benoit vs triple h

(smackdown)
(cruiserwieght championship match)
rey mysterio vs chavo guerrero

(raw)
(intercontinental championship match)
randy ortan (with flair) vs edge

(smackdown)
(handicap match)
buba ray dudly & d-von dudly vs spike dudly

(raw)
triple h, ric flair, randy ortan, batista
vs
eugene, chris benoit, william regal, edge

(smackdown)
(wwe tag championship)
pual londan & billy kidman vs
rey mysterio & rob van damn

(raw)
(wwe tag championship)
la resistance vs rhyno & tajiri

(smackdown)
(revange match)
john cena vs luther riegns

(raw)
(bitter friendship match)
chris jericho vs christian (with trish & tyson)

(smackdown)
(u.s champ up for grabs)
booker t vs john cena

(raw)
(revange)
kane vs shawn micheals & matt hardy

my predictions for wins

match 1: kurt angle
match 2: chris benoit
match 3: rey mysterio
match 4: edge
match 5: buba & d-von
match 6: eugene, william regal, chris benoit, edge
match 7: rey mysterio & rob van damn
match 8: rhyno & tajiri (god i hope so)
match 9: luther riegns
match 10: christian
match 11: booker t
match 12: shawn micheals

wow that was long but thats what im thinkin its gonna be anywa thats what im hopin for

so what do u guys think?

now i dont know if rey rey is the current cruiserwight champ i think he is

and im hopin shawn micheals comes back before summerslam they said he was gonna fued with kane


(smackdown)
(fatal four way title match)
the undertaker (with paul haymen) vs kurt angle vs eddie guerrero vs john bradshaw layfield

GOOD IDEA, BUT IT'S ONLY SUPPOSSED TO BE A TRIPLE THREAT, BUT I GUESS WE'LL WAIT AND SEE. MY PICK TO WIN WOULD BE TAKER.

(raw)
(world heavyweight championship match)
chris benoit vs triple h

THIS ONE IS ALREADY CONFIRMED TO BE TAKING PLACE. MY PICK TO WIN, BENOIT.

(smackdown)
(cruiserwieght championship match)
rey mysterio vs chavo guerrero

MY PICK TO WIN, MYSTERIO RETAINING THE TITLE!

(raw)
(intercontinental championship match)
randy ortan (with flair) vs edge

EDGE RETAINING THE TITLE

(smackdown)
(handicap match)
buba ray dudly & d-von dudly vs spike dudly

NOT LIKELY TO HAPPEN, BUT IF IT DOES I HOPE SPIKE WINS. HE ACTUALLY BEAT THE DUDLEYS BACK IN ECW.

(raw)
triple h, ric flair, randy ortan, batista
vs
eugene, chris benoit, william regal, edge

VERY NOT LIKELY TO HAPPEN, THE WON'T HAVE ALL THESE GUYS FIGHT TWICE.

(smackdown)
(wwe tag championship)
pual londan & billy kidman vs
rey mysterio & rob van damn

THIS ONE WOULD BE GOOD, BUT IT'S NOT LIKELY TO HAPPEN.

(raw)
(wwe tag championship)
la resistance vs rhyno & tajiri

RHYNO AND TAJIRI NEW CHAMPS!

(smackdown)
(revange match)
john cena vs luther riegns

CENA WINS!

(raw)
(bitter friendship match)
chris jericho vs christian (with trish & tyson)

IF CHRISTIAN IS BACK IN TIME THIS WILL HAPPEN LIKELY, I HOPE JERICHO WINS.

(smackdown)
(u.s champ up for grabs)
booker t vs john cena

CENA NEW US CHAMP!

(raw)
(revange)
kane vs shawn micheals & matt hardy

HARDY IS INJURED SO THIS LIKELY WILL ONLY BE MICHEALS VS. KANE.


You got some good ideas for matches, but there are only a few that may take place. This is a large card, and Summerslam has never had nor will it ever have 12 matches.
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