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01/15/2009 09:46 PM (UTC)
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Batista and Kennedy? You do realize Batista can't even rehab his injury yet and that Kennedy is the most injury-prone star ever, right? Yet... they'd put those two over Jeff? I can't see that happening at all... Batista won't even be back in time for Wrestlemania according to every news site I have come across. Cena's return was quite different.

I'd like to see MVP win, but
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they are going to let him "win" a match over Big Show thanks to Triple H, so that streak storyline seems to be taking a non-Rumble route.
The fact Jeff won the title confirms to me that the WWE trusts him, as letting a star wear one of your most important titles is the ultimate act of trust. I think it's time for everyone to get over this idea the WWE has a fear of pushing Jeff because he's a supposed "druggy". The guy is almost undoubtedly the most over star in WWE. Not everyone likes Triple H still and Cena gets a mixed reaction. Cena is certainly the best at getting some sort of reaction, but Jeff gets the biggest pops for sure.


Actually, I don't see how Cena's return was different in the sense that the return date can be worked. For all we know Batista just needed some time off to heal a couple of small injuries. It could be a work, and I wouldn't be surprised f it was.

And yes, Kennedy at one point was slated to headline Mania so it's only natural that he will eventually do it.

The problem with Jeff Hardy is bigger than being injury prone, because if Hardy fails a test, he won't just miss out on thirty days, he'll be FIRED. That's massive. No, WWE is NOT trusting Jeff with the Mania main event (which is a bigger sign of trust than just winning the belt, FYI), and that's why he's dropping the title soon.

Yeah he's probably the single most over star in WWE... but that doesn't make him trustworthy.
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01/15/2009 09:58 PM (UTC)
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You're right, if Jeff fails another test he'll be fired. But the fact the WWE put the championship on him despite that shows their trust in him is surely growing. As for Wrestlemania... well, if that trust is "bigger" than letting someone win the title, the list of people who can headline Wrestlemania is composed of what, like a handful of people right? And how many times has a heel won that match?

With what you're saying, the list of people who can even win the Rumble is extremely short and mostly composed of people who have already won it.
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01/15/2009 10:13 PM (UTC)
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~Crow~ Wrote:
With what you're saying, the list of people who can even win the Rumble is extremely short and mostly composed of people who have already won it.


That's been said for the longest time now.
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Sub_ZER0
01/16/2009 01:16 AM (UTC)
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Lol...Jeff Hardy was champion? Is he still a drug head?

Wow....wrestling's changed a bunch.
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01/16/2009 01:23 AM (UTC)
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Sub_ZER0 Wrote:
Lol...Jeff Hardy was champion? Is he still a drug head?

Wow....wrestling's changed a bunch.


He still is champion, but he's losing the title, and yeah, he's still a druggie, I'm going to laugh if they catch him again with drugs, I don't know why it would occur to me as "funny," but it just will.
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01/16/2009 01:34 AM (UTC)
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I remember when I stopped watching...him and RVD had a tag-team

They were pretty bad ass too...lol.
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TheMkGeek
01/16/2009 02:08 AM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
~Crow~ Wrote:
Batista and Kennedy? You do realize Batista can't even rehab his injury yet and that Kennedy is the most injury-prone star ever, right? Yet... they'd put those two over Jeff? I can't see that happening at all... Batista won't even be back in time for Wrestlemania according to every news site I have come across. Cena's return was quite different.

I'd like to see MVP win, but
Spoilers: (Highlight to reveal)
they are going to let him "win" a match over Big Show thanks to Triple H, so that streak storyline seems to be taking a non-Rumble route.
The fact Jeff won the title confirms to me that the WWE trusts him, as letting a star wear one of your most important titles is the ultimate act of trust. I think it's time for everyone to get over this idea the WWE has a fear of pushing Jeff because he's a supposed "druggy". The guy is almost undoubtedly the most over star in WWE. Not everyone likes Triple H still and Cena gets a mixed reaction. Cena is certainly the best at getting some sort of reaction, but Jeff gets the biggest pops for sure.


Actually, I don't see how Cena's return was different in the sense that the return date can be worked. For all we know Batista just needed some time off to heal a couple of small injuries. It could be a work, and I wouldn't be surprised f it was.

And yes, Kennedy at one point was slated to headline Mania so it's only natural that he will eventually do it.



Batista's injury is no more a work than Cena's was, so i doubt he'll be back to be in the Rumble, much less win it again. and same goes for Kennedy, he ain't suppossed to be back in action until some time in February, so that leaves him off the winners list, unless that is a work itself, but i highly doubt that. so it'll either be Orton, Trips, Cena or someone completely different winning the Rumble, and i HOPE TO GOD it's not Orton
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~Crow~
01/16/2009 02:25 AM (UTC)
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Uh... Cena isn't in the match... certainly you haven't forgotten he's the champion. That's nearly impossible.


Anyway, you guys are terribly hard on Jeff. Give the guy a break already. He's not necessarily going to lose. I don't remember very many predicting he'd actually win it in the first place, so be sure your eggs have hatched.
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Zentile
01/16/2009 04:17 AM (UTC)
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~Crow~ Wrote:
Uh... Cena isn't in the match... certainly you haven't forgotten he's the champion. That's nearly impossible.


Anyway, you guys are terribly hard on Jeff. Give the guy a break already. He's not necessarily going to lose. I don't remember very many predicting he'd actually win it in the first place, so be sure your eggs have hatched.


Cena should win the Rumble and then wrestle himself at Mania.


Anyways Crowster, regarding Jeff, WE're not being terribly hard, the WWE is (though with good reason).
I'm not saying Jeff doesn't deserve to main event at Mania, I'm saying WWE won't do that.
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01/16/2009 05:23 AM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
~Crow~ Wrote:
Uh... Cena isn't in the match... certainly you haven't forgotten he's the champion. That's nearly impossible.


Anyway, you guys are terribly hard on Jeff. Give the guy a break already. He's not necessarily going to lose. I don't remember very many predicting he'd actually win it in the first place, so be sure your eggs have hatched.


Cena should win the Rumble and then wrestle himself at Mania.


Anyways Crowster, regarding Jeff, WE're not being terribly hard, the WWE is (though with good reason).
I'm not saying Jeff doesn't deserve to main event at Mania, I'm saying WWE won't do that.


I could see WWE doing something like John Cena Vs. Thaddius Cena, John Cena's evil twin for teh WWE title at WM...At this point the first thing that pops in their heads is what goes on the air...

I forgot Kennedy was injured, and his injury is Legit, so i'm gonna pull for Orton or Edge, if either are even in the Rumble...I'd actualy like to see Kendrick win, but i know that will never happen...

Anyone want to take a guess at who Undertaker will Fight at the Wrestlemania this year?
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TheMkGeek
01/16/2009 07:44 PM (UTC)
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Faith_No_More Wrote:
Zentile Wrote:
~Crow~ Wrote:
Uh... Cena isn't in the match... certainly you haven't forgotten he's the champion. That's nearly impossible.


Anyway, you guys are terribly hard on Jeff. Give the guy a break already. He's not necessarily going to lose. I don't remember very many predicting he'd actually win it in the first place, so be sure your eggs have hatched.


Cena should win the Rumble and then wrestle himself at Mania.


Anyways Crowster, regarding Jeff, WE're not being terribly hard, the WWE is (though with good reason).
I'm not saying Jeff doesn't deserve to main event at Mania, I'm saying WWE won't do that.


I could see WWE doing something like John Cena Vs. Thaddius Cena, John Cena's evil twin for teh WWE title at WM...At this point the first thing that pops in their heads is what goes on the air...

I forgot Kennedy was injured, and his injury is Legit, so i'm gonna pull for Orton or Edge, if either are even in the Rumble...I'd actualy like to see Kendrick win, but i know that will never happen...

Anyone want to take a guess at who Undertaker will Fight at the Wrestlemania this year?


see, i had a brain lapse and forgot Cena was World Champion, which is why i said he might win the Rumble, lol, hey it happens! :P

any way, i'd rather like to see Edge win over Orton, Edge i despise as well, but i don't think he's as big a douche-bag as Orton! wink

as for Taker, i've heard/read various rumors pertaining to his opponent at this year's Mania, being anyone from Shawn Micheals to Triple H
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Zentile
01/16/2009 10:36 PM (UTC)
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Neither Orton or Edge are winning the Rumble.

They're building up Orton for a new rise to the top with the Legacy, and he's not doing it by winning the Rumble and then the Mania match because that's just too much of a babyface path, and WWE is having trouble with getting Orton booed as it is.

Orton's winning the title soon though. Maybe Backlash.
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illu§ion
01/17/2009 01:27 AM (UTC)
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and WWE is having trouble with getting Orton booed as it is.



So much for, "Orton punt kick to Batista will create more heat." sleep
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Zentile
01/19/2009 03:14 AM (UTC)
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So instead of turning a negative (Big star getting injured) into a storyline to help develop characters, especially when Orton is in need of heat, you'd just write it off as Batista getting some meaningless injury?

I'm glad you're not running the WWE.
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01/19/2009 03:38 AM (UTC)
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Well, not a lot of news has been posted Lately, so...here ya go..

The WWE has officially announced the release of Bob Holly due to the same cost cutting measures we have seen them taking lately. Holly had been with the company since 1994, but had not been seen on television since losing the Tag Team Championships to Ted DiBiase and Cody Rhodes at June's "Night of Champions" pay per view when Rhodes (Holly's partner at the time) turned on him and sided with DiBiase. He was sent home after that due to some sort of personal issues and hasn't been seen on television since.

Victoria, as most of you know, Retired Friday after wrestling (and loosing, saldy) her last match on Smackdown with Michelle McCool...this is legit, and i personally am kinda sad to see her go...You can see her farewell speech Here

MVP's loosing streak of 5 months finally ended Friday when he beat Festus...

Kelly Kelly turned 22 this week...Whoopdeedoo

PWInsider.com is reporting that Steve Austin has specifically requested that Ric Flair induct him into the 2009 WWE Hall of Fame. While this may not come as much of a surprise to some, it will be interesting to see how WWE handles this situation given the fact that Flair is no longer with the company and left on rather shaky terms.

According to WWE.com, Jeff Hardy was in "shock after suffering what appeared to be first and second degree burns from the explosion" that took place on Smackdown this past Friday night. For those who have sent in emails, this was of course part of Hardy's ongoing storyline and was not a shoot incident in any way

Starcade DVD coming out soon...everyone buy it...it will be aweosme

Also, PWheadlines hasn't been updated on it's site since August of last year, so all these were found on Wrestlezone.com
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~Crow~
01/19/2009 07:15 AM (UTC)
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So how do these reports about WWE using security guards to escort all their fired employees out of their building look? They're spending an awful lot on security guards, to be trying to save money in other departments... that's how it seems to me.

This seems totally unnecessary. I'd be completely embarrassed if I were among the fired.
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01/19/2009 10:05 AM (UTC)
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~Crow~ Wrote:
So how do these reports about WWE using security guards to escort all their fired employees out of their building look? They're spending an awful lot on security guards, to be trying to save money in other departments... that's how it seems to me.

This seems totally unnecessary. I'd be completely embarrassed if I were among the fired.


I haven't heard about that...who'd they do that to?
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Zentile
01/19/2009 12:17 PM (UTC)
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Faith_No_More Wrote:
~Crow~ Wrote:
So how do these reports about WWE using security guards to escort all their fired employees out of their building look? They're spending an awful lot on security guards, to be trying to save money in other departments... that's how it seems to me.

This seems totally unnecessary. I'd be completely embarrassed if I were among the fired.


I haven't heard about that...who'd they do that to?


Reports say that it's been done to pretty much everybody.
Including refs and agents.

Yeah I don't see how it's necessary... Gives off a bad vibe to me and I'm sure to those who were released.
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illu§ion
01/19/2009 06:23 PM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
So instead of turning a negative (Big star getting injured) into a storyline to help develop characters, especially when Orton is in need of heat, you'd just write it off as Batista getting some meaningless injury?

I'm glad you're not running the WWE.


How is that even relevant to my post? Zentile, you repudiated my comment a few weeks ago when you said Orton punt kick to the head of Batista will create more heat, and now you are saying WWE is failing to give Orton any heat. Way to backpedal and yet you're glad I’m not running the WWE.
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Zentile
01/19/2009 07:40 PM (UTC)
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How did I contradict myself? Orton is having trouble getting heat... I never said knocking Batista out was a sure way to get heat, I said WWE was trying. Certainly way better than just saying ''Oh one of our top main event stars got injured in a completely anti climatic way''.
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TheMkGeek
01/20/2009 01:16 AM (UTC)
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oh i don't think Orton's having trouble getting heat, i don't know what you're hearing when u watch Raw, but there's still plenty of people out there who think he's a douche-bag and i hear alot of 'boos' when he's on camera
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~Crow~
01/20/2009 02:25 AM (UTC)
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It's cute how WWE has given up trying to give Cena more cheers. Now they're just referring to him as "the always controversial John Cena".

PS: Orton got a massive pop tonight, so maybe you're deaf MKGeek. =/
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01/20/2009 02:39 AM (UTC)
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01/20/2009 03:11 AM (UTC)
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~Crow~ Wrote:
It's cute how WWE has given up trying to give Cena more cheers. Now they're just referring to him as "the always controversial John Cena".


PS: Orton got a massive pop tonight, so maybe you're deaf MKGeek. =/


I'm glad to see they gave up...Maybe it will finally lead to a backlash like it did with Goldberg and Billy Squier...


...lol, 80's musician Referance
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Zentile
01/20/2009 05:29 PM (UTC)
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Orton is supposed to be the top heel. In terms of push he's light years ahead of Jericho and JBL as the number one heel on RAW.
But the truth is a lot of fans love him. I'm not saying he doesn't get booed, I'm saying he gets cheered as well.

I have to say it was an interesting RAW. Orton punting McMahon was unexpected I think.
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