firesnake •11/21/2008 11:47 PM (UTC) •
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Hey, if Christian Cage does show back up in WWE, you think they might actually give him some main-event time because of his title reigns in TNA???
Hey, if Christian Cage does show back up in WWE, you think they might actually give him some main-event time because of his title reigns in TNA???
Well what I herd their going to do or what their talkin about doin is, some suggested for him to be on raw as some writers like writng for him.
Also Michael Hayes and Edge are pushing for him to be on SmackDown and to put the two back together. But if that doesn't work their goin to be putting him on the midcard level.
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firesnake Wrote:
Well what I herd their going to do or what their talkin about doin is, some suggested for him to be on raw as some writers like writng for him.
Also Michael Hayes and Edge are pushing for him to be on SmackDown and to put the two back together. But if that doesn't work their goin to be putting him on the midcard level.
JackBurton Wrote:
Hey, if Christian Cage does show back up in WWE, you think they might actually give him some main-event time because of his title reigns in TNA???
Hey, if Christian Cage does show back up in WWE, you think they might actually give him some main-event time because of his title reigns in TNA???
Well what I herd their going to do or what their talkin about doin is, some suggested for him to be on raw as some writers like writng for him.
Also Michael Hayes and Edge are pushing for him to be on SmackDown and to put the two back together. But if that doesn't work their goin to be putting him on the midcard level.
It will be a crime against humanity if they mid card that man again. Hell, I'd put him on raw. It seems like the smaller guys are getting some love on that show(Punk, Jericho, etc).
TheMkGeek •11/22/2008 07:30 PM (UTC) •
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Zentile Wrote:
Well actually Steiner's title reign was probably the most credible and well done in wCw for years. Indeed, Jeff Jarrett kept winning the belt and losing it again every couple of weeks for a while and even Vince Russo and David Arquette became champs, but I honestly don't see anything wrong with DDP and Booker T winning the belt, they were certainly over enough.
But anyways, Scott Steiner's 4 month long world title reign in WCW was really the most credible they had in years. It was much longer than usual, and he was dominant and looked dominant and didn't take shit from guys like Vince Russo. Steiner was beating big name after big name while he was champion.
It was actually a pretty good run.
Well actually Steiner's title reign was probably the most credible and well done in wCw for years. Indeed, Jeff Jarrett kept winning the belt and losing it again every couple of weeks for a while and even Vince Russo and David Arquette became champs, but I honestly don't see anything wrong with DDP and Booker T winning the belt, they were certainly over enough.
But anyways, Scott Steiner's 4 month long world title reign in WCW was really the most credible they had in years. It was much longer than usual, and he was dominant and looked dominant and didn't take shit from guys like Vince Russo. Steiner was beating big name after big name while he was champion.
It was actually a pretty good run.
yeah that's true, but i still stand by what i said, i've never liked Steiner and never will, just don't think he's a good wrestler, and i never said there was anything wrong with DDP and Booker T winning the belt, i said that i believed them as Champs more than i did Steiner.
any way, did anyone see the recent photos of Macho Man from the "Bolt" movie premiere? i mean, my gosh he looks like crap and death warmed over: http://www.sescoops.com/misc/Randy_Savage_At_Bolt_Movie_Premiere_PICTURE.shtml
TheMkGeek •11/23/2008 04:39 AM (UTC) •
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Zentile Wrote:
I think Savage looks his age... good for him.
I think Savage looks his age... good for him.
what 103?
legend_armlet •11/23/2008 12:14 PM (UTC) •
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With Survivor series this sunday, there are my predictions
Undertaker vs Big Show: Undertaker will get the last word
Jeff Hardy vs Triple H vs Vladimir Kozlov: Triple H will retain the title
Team Batista vs Team Orton: Team Batista wins
Team HBK vs team JBL: Team HBK destroys team JBL
Chris Jericho vs John Cena: John Cena overcome the odds.
Undertaker vs Big Show: Undertaker will get the last word
Jeff Hardy vs Triple H vs Vladimir Kozlov: Triple H will retain the title
Team Batista vs Team Orton: Team Batista wins
Team HBK vs team JBL: Team HBK destroys team JBL
Chris Jericho vs John Cena: John Cena overcome the odds.
legend_armlet Wrote:
With Survivor series this sunday, there are my predictions
Undertaker vs Big Show: Undertaker will get the last word
Jeff Hardy vs Triple H vs Vladimir Kozlov: Triple H will retain the title
Team Batista vs Team Orton: Team Batista wins
Team HBK vs team JBL: Team HBK destroys team JBL
Chris Jericho vs John Cena: John Cena overcome the odds.
With Survivor series this sunday, there are my predictions
Undertaker vs Big Show: Undertaker will get the last word
Jeff Hardy vs Triple H vs Vladimir Kozlov: Triple H will retain the title
Team Batista vs Team Orton: Team Batista wins
Team HBK vs team JBL: Team HBK destroys team JBL
Chris Jericho vs John Cena: John Cena overcome the odds.
Again guy, you should really try to be able to separate wish lists from predictions.
Obviously the WWE isn't going to have every babyface win.
And what exactly are the odds John Cena is going to overcome? It's a one on one match with a wrestler who is smaller than he is, what odds must he overcome?
Here are my predictions.
Undertaker beats the Big Show
Triple H wins the triple threat.
Jericho beats Cena.
Team Batista beats Team Orton.
Team JBL beats Team HBK.
I really have to admit calling the traditional team matches is really hard this year. I don't see a team with Batista, Hardy and Punk losing, but I don't see Orton losing either.
I can't imagine HBK's crappy team beating JBL's, but I also don't see Shawn Michaels losing a survivor series match again.
Nice, I'm sure both matches will be kickass.
TheMkGeek •11/23/2008 10:23 PM (UTC) •
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Zentile Wrote:
Again guy, you should really try to be able to separate wish lists from predictions.
Obviously the WWE isn't going to have every babyface win.
And what exactly are the odds John Cena is going to overcome? It's a one on one match with a wrestler who is smaller than he is, what odds must he overcome?
Here are my predictions.
Undertaker beats the Big Show
Triple H wins the triple threat.
Jericho beats Cena.
Team Batista beats Team Orton.
Team JBL beats Team HBK.
I really have to admit calling the traditional team matches is really hard this year. I don't see a team with Batista, Hardy and Punk losing, but I don't see Orton losing either.
I can't imagine HBK's crappy team beating JBL's, but I also don't see Shawn Michaels losing a survivor series match again.
Nice, I'm sure both matches will be kickass.
legend_armlet Wrote:
With Survivor series this sunday, there are my predictions
Undertaker vs Big Show: Undertaker will get the last word
Jeff Hardy vs Triple H vs Vladimir Kozlov: Triple H will retain the title
Team Batista vs Team Orton: Team Batista wins
Team HBK vs team JBL: Team HBK destroys team JBL
Chris Jericho vs John Cena: John Cena overcome the odds.
With Survivor series this sunday, there are my predictions
Undertaker vs Big Show: Undertaker will get the last word
Jeff Hardy vs Triple H vs Vladimir Kozlov: Triple H will retain the title
Team Batista vs Team Orton: Team Batista wins
Team HBK vs team JBL: Team HBK destroys team JBL
Chris Jericho vs John Cena: John Cena overcome the odds.
Again guy, you should really try to be able to separate wish lists from predictions.
Obviously the WWE isn't going to have every babyface win.
And what exactly are the odds John Cena is going to overcome? It's a one on one match with a wrestler who is smaller than he is, what odds must he overcome?
Here are my predictions.
Undertaker beats the Big Show
Triple H wins the triple threat.
Jericho beats Cena.
Team Batista beats Team Orton.
Team JBL beats Team HBK.
I really have to admit calling the traditional team matches is really hard this year. I don't see a team with Batista, Hardy and Punk losing, but I don't see Orton losing either.
I can't imagine HBK's crappy team beating JBL's, but I also don't see Shawn Michaels losing a survivor series match again.
Nice, I'm sure both matches will be kickass.
See, i agree with all your predictions cept, i think team HBK will win over Team JBL.
did u all read about the wwe.com story of Jeff Hardy found "unconcious" in his hotel stairwell or something like that?
Spoilers: (Highlight to reveal)
apparently it's a "work" of course with Edge to be revealed as the culprit leading to a Hardy/Edge feud, and some moron who posted the news story thinks Hardy will win tonight and that my lead the feud to being for the title. also, apparently HBK and Khali will be the sole survivors on their team
apparently it's a "work" of course with Edge to be revealed as the culprit leading to a Hardy/Edge feud, and some moron who posted the news story thinks Hardy will win tonight and that my lead the feud to being for the title. also, apparently HBK and Khali will be the sole survivors on their team
Faith_No_More I'm dead •11/24/2008 04:02 AM (UTC) •
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Edge as Champ...HELL FUCKING YEAH!! OH YEAH!!!
Cena as new champ...way to give us something we've seen a million times before...
Cena as new champ...way to give us something we've seen a million times before...
Detox •11/24/2008 06:58 AM (UTC) •
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Faith_No_More Wrote:
Edge as Champ...HELL FUCKING YEAH!! OH YEAH!!!
Cena as new champ...way to give us something we've seen a million times before...
Edge as Champ...HELL FUCKING YEAH!! OH YEAH!!!
Cena as new champ...way to give us something we've seen a million times before...
I'm gonna be so fuckin bummed to see the world championship get blinged up.
That was an absolutely fucking HORRIBLE WWE title match. I mean, no, let me rephrase that. That was an absolutely fucking HORRIBLY booked WWE title match. The match itself was actually reasonably good while it lasted. Best wrestling match Triple H has been involved in for almost a year imo, even if he didn't really do any work.
But that goddamn crowd. Nothing is worse than WWE smarks. As annoying as ROH smarks are, they're at least semi-justified in their snobby bullshit. WWE smarks think they know good wrestling but they just worship short people and flips, so they're the most annoyingly obnoxious fans in the world because they think they're discerning and smart and they look down their noses at everybody who disagrees with them, but it's like watching mentally handicapped kids call other people stupid beccause they have nooo fucking clue. Kozlov and Triple H have a decent, somewhat mat based professional wrestling match, and the crowd shits all over it chanting "TNA" and "this is boring." Then WWE smarks wonder why guys like Jeff get pushed instead of Matt. Fucking. Idiots. WWE fans deserve all the shit Vince shovels on them.
I digress, this isn't what I wanted to bitch about. I want to bitch about the booking. Because that was horrible. Horribly, horribly, horrible overbooked trash. That was TNA booking through and through. That was worse-than-WCW booking. Nothing about that match finish made absolutely any sense whatsoever on any level. Like... lol. I can't even be bothered detailing it. But it's just amusing that if this was TNA or WCW people would be raging so hard over it. But because it's WWE, and because it's Edge, people not only accept it but are praising it.
There is no hope for professional wrestling.
Oh well. At least JBL smashed and stretched everyone for no good reason. Watching JBL punch HBK in the face until he bled hardway was worth having to see Regal get owned in about three seconds.
But that goddamn crowd. Nothing is worse than WWE smarks. As annoying as ROH smarks are, they're at least semi-justified in their snobby bullshit. WWE smarks think they know good wrestling but they just worship short people and flips, so they're the most annoyingly obnoxious fans in the world because they think they're discerning and smart and they look down their noses at everybody who disagrees with them, but it's like watching mentally handicapped kids call other people stupid beccause they have nooo fucking clue. Kozlov and Triple H have a decent, somewhat mat based professional wrestling match, and the crowd shits all over it chanting "TNA" and "this is boring." Then WWE smarks wonder why guys like Jeff get pushed instead of Matt. Fucking. Idiots. WWE fans deserve all the shit Vince shovels on them.
I digress, this isn't what I wanted to bitch about. I want to bitch about the booking. Because that was horrible. Horribly, horribly, horrible overbooked trash. That was TNA booking through and through. That was worse-than-WCW booking. Nothing about that match finish made absolutely any sense whatsoever on any level. Like... lol. I can't even be bothered detailing it. But it's just amusing that if this was TNA or WCW people would be raging so hard over it. But because it's WWE, and because it's Edge, people not only accept it but are praising it.
There is no hope for professional wrestling.
Oh well. At least JBL smashed and stretched everyone for no good reason. Watching JBL punch HBK in the face until he bled hardway was worth having to see Regal get owned in about three seconds.
TheMkGeek •11/24/2008 06:39 PM (UTC) •
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so, Shibata, u liked last night's ppv i gather?!
i was pissed as hell that that fucking piece of shit Edge won the goddamn title, i mean that made little sense what so ever, but hey, this is the WWE after all, and they're known to make last minute stupid changes. but fucking Edge, i mean c'mon! Triple H got royally fucked, period, and i hope Edge doesn't keep the title long, and this isn't just the mark inside of me preaching, this is the pissed off fan talking.
and gee what a surprise that my other least favorite superstar, Captain dipshit himself, Orton, also came out smelling like roses! fuck, it's getting to the point where i don't even want to watch, cause the same lame assholes keep on fucking winning the matches
i was pissed as hell that that fucking piece of shit Edge won the goddamn title, i mean that made little sense what so ever, but hey, this is the WWE after all, and they're known to make last minute stupid changes. but fucking Edge, i mean c'mon! Triple H got royally fucked, period, and i hope Edge doesn't keep the title long, and this isn't just the mark inside of me preaching, this is the pissed off fan talking.
and gee what a surprise that my other least favorite superstar, Captain dipshit himself, Orton, also came out smelling like roses! fuck, it's getting to the point where i don't even want to watch, cause the same lame assholes keep on fucking winning the matches
firesnake •11/25/2008 12:31 AM (UTC) •
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I went to ROH PPV in Chicago this past sat and it was so much fun and it was great to see all the matches the crowd was hot the whole show and Ace Steel came back and so did Lacey also ROH had a better camera crew there.
There were about 1500 people there which is great.
First match was Phoenix Twins DEF. Grizzly Redwood & Aaron Scott
and Grizzly was the star of this match people where goin crazy for him also the Phoenix twins looked great.
Briscoes come out to start and cut a promo on Kevin Steen and Generico.
Then they had a match which didn't last to long but is was still a good match concidering that Mark had a injured knee.
Then MsChif vs Sara Del Ray this match was very good and the crowd was split between the two. Del Ray pulled the Sickest Boston Crab i've seen before and bent MsChif all the way back.
Then Delirious vs Rhett Titus good solid match with Rhett doin some comedy stuff then Delirous hits him with a trophey.
Claudio Castagnoli vs Sami Callahan vs Silas Young vs Alex Payne.
Payne was way over as usually with the Chicago crowd.
The crowd keep screamin Hey! to Claudio and his reations were great.
The wrestlers in this match really had fun with the crowd which is always great to see.
Sami was big time over also getting a lot of chants. Claudio tried to use the chair on Sugarfoot but Danielson ran out and took it away from him for the save and a huge “NEXT WORLD CHAMP” Chant.
Then Brent Albright, Roderick Strong & ACE STEEL Vs. Chris Hero, Go Shiozaki & Davey Richards
People where goin crazy when the herd Ace Steel's muic hit and chantin welcome back.
He looked great in this match as did everybody else.
Dempsey was getting a lot of chants and wasn't even in the match.
A lot of great back and forth action in this match everybody looked great and people where into to this one like crazy.
Then we have Aries Vs. Jacobs (I quit match)
Aries come out and says he doen't need anyone to have his back (cause Black came out with Jimmy) . Some really sick action in this match and great spots at one point Jimmy had Jacobs wraped around a chair with chains and about to spike his head. This match was so damn good.
ROH WORLD TITLE
Nigel McGuinness Vs. Bryan Danielson
Fantasic match by both men as always.
Some great Chain wrestling at the start.
People again were into this match and some interference happend to both men and nobody knew which way it would go.
Then for the finall match we had Samoa Joe vs Tyler Black
Huge ovation for Joe. Welcome back chants also.
Handshake and nose to nose both of them were.
Again great fuckin match by both and we got to see ROH Joe and Not TNA Joe which was great.
Joe ends the show with a heart felt promo and puts over ROH and the boys in the back.
All in all I had a fantastic time there and can't wait for the next time they come back.
There were about 1500 people there which is great.
First match was Phoenix Twins DEF. Grizzly Redwood & Aaron Scott
and Grizzly was the star of this match people where goin crazy for him also the Phoenix twins looked great.
Briscoes come out to start and cut a promo on Kevin Steen and Generico.
Then they had a match which didn't last to long but is was still a good match concidering that Mark had a injured knee.
Then MsChif vs Sara Del Ray this match was very good and the crowd was split between the two. Del Ray pulled the Sickest Boston Crab i've seen before and bent MsChif all the way back.
Then Delirious vs Rhett Titus good solid match with Rhett doin some comedy stuff then Delirous hits him with a trophey.
Claudio Castagnoli vs Sami Callahan vs Silas Young vs Alex Payne.
Payne was way over as usually with the Chicago crowd.
The crowd keep screamin Hey! to Claudio and his reations were great.
The wrestlers in this match really had fun with the crowd which is always great to see.
Sami was big time over also getting a lot of chants. Claudio tried to use the chair on Sugarfoot but Danielson ran out and took it away from him for the save and a huge “NEXT WORLD CHAMP” Chant.
Then Brent Albright, Roderick Strong & ACE STEEL Vs. Chris Hero, Go Shiozaki & Davey Richards
People where goin crazy when the herd Ace Steel's muic hit and chantin welcome back.
He looked great in this match as did everybody else.
Dempsey was getting a lot of chants and wasn't even in the match.
A lot of great back and forth action in this match everybody looked great and people where into to this one like crazy.
Then we have Aries Vs. Jacobs (I quit match)
Aries come out and says he doen't need anyone to have his back (cause Black came out with Jimmy) . Some really sick action in this match and great spots at one point Jimmy had Jacobs wraped around a chair with chains and about to spike his head. This match was so damn good.
ROH WORLD TITLE
Nigel McGuinness Vs. Bryan Danielson
Fantasic match by both men as always.
Some great Chain wrestling at the start.
People again were into this match and some interference happend to both men and nobody knew which way it would go.
Then for the finall match we had Samoa Joe vs Tyler Black
Huge ovation for Joe. Welcome back chants also.
Handshake and nose to nose both of them were.
Again great fuckin match by both and we got to see ROH Joe and Not TNA Joe which was great.
Joe ends the show with a heart felt promo and puts over ROH and the boys in the back.
All in all I had a fantastic time there and can't wait for the next time they come back.
legend_armlet Wrote:
With Survivor series this sunday, there are my predictions
Undertaker vs Big Show: Undertaker will get the last word
Jeff Hardy vs Triple H vs Vladimir Kozlov: Triple H will retain the title
Team Batista vs Team Orton: Team Batista wins
Team HBK vs team JBL: Team HBK destroys team JBL
Chris Jericho vs John Cena: John Cena overcome the odds.
With Survivor series this sunday, there are my predictions
Undertaker vs Big Show: Undertaker will get the last word
Jeff Hardy vs Triple H vs Vladimir Kozlov: Triple H will retain the title
Team Batista vs Team Orton: Team Batista wins
Team HBK vs team JBL: Team HBK destroys team JBL
Chris Jericho vs John Cena: John Cena overcome the odds.
What boring and somwhat WRONG predictions. My god, you're one of those who beleives it's still real.
Anyways, I think Edge's new beard reminds me of David Grohl of Foo Fighters. And I really hope they ditch the Edge/Gurrero skit soon. It's really annoying and I never peronally enjoyed her presence in the business... not after Eddie passed and she became involved all of a sudden.
Not to mention, I miss Jericho's cockyness... sad that he's a different person all of a sudden, though I must say this show was not interesting whatsoever. But I'm glad to see that Goldust and Melina returned.
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Melina being back had me in awe. Easily the highlight for me tonight.
Goldust was good, still wonder how long it will last. before he's rid of.
Glamourella shouldn't last to much longer. It's amusing but old now.
Jericho got owned in that STFU. I couldn't help but laugh.
Goldust was good, still wonder how long it will last. before he's rid of.
Glamourella shouldn't last to much longer. It's amusing but old now.
Jericho got owned in that STFU. I couldn't help but laugh.
Zentile Wrote:
If the WWE fans aren't entertained by the match I don't see how they're retarded for speaking their minds...
I do see some retardedness in enjoying seeing people bleed the hardway, though.
If the WWE fans aren't entertained by the match I don't see how they're retarded for speaking their minds...
I do see some retardedness in enjoying seeing people bleed the hardway, though.
It was good wrestling and they were acting like it wasn't because people weren't flipping around or hitting each other with garbage cans. Retarded.
Also, anyone who chants "boring" is a retard anyway. Nobody goes to a sporting contest and chants "boring" just because one team's offense isn't very interesting. You just sit back and chill and watch it unfold. People don't do that at wrestling events because they have an expectation that they're owed a good show because they know it's a work.
"Boring" is a smark chant basically. It's a live breaking of the kayfabe that the wrestlers are trying to uphold in the ring for the period of time that the match is taking place, because it's a critique of wrestlers worked performance. "This match isn't exciting enough." Like chanting "your workrate isn't high enough." That's bullshit. If people are going to go to wrestling show, they shouldn't chant their fucking match critiques like smarky douchebags. If it's boring to them then they should fuck off and leave because they're not owed anything, they bought a ticket to a wrestling event, not a five star match. If speaking their mind entails letting the wrestlers in the ring know how smart they are and how unimpressed they are with the "performance" of the "workers" as discerning professional wrestling connoisseurs, they are gigantic retards.
Detox •11/25/2008 07:18 AM (UTC) •
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That was an absolutely fucking HORRIBLE WWE title match. I mean, no, let me rephrase that. That was an absolutely fucking HORRIBLY booked WWE title match. The match itself was actually reasonably good while it lasted. Best wrestling match Triple H has been involved in for almost a year imo, even if he didn't really do any work
That was an absolutely fucking HORRIBLE WWE title match. I mean, no, let me rephrase that. That was an absolutely fucking HORRIBLY booked WWE title match. The match itself was actually reasonably good while it lasted. Best wrestling match Triple H has been involved in for almost a year imo, even if he didn't really do any work
This is the second time in a few months that someone not even initially involved in the title match has won the championship. While I'm happy Edge is the champ once again(FTW!), when I see a title change hands like this, i'm left with more of a WTF type moment then I am excited.
On an unrelated note. The Undertaker should turn heel soon. What fuckin heel does he have left to face? Or at least put him on Raw or something.
No insult, hurting people in the ring on purpose is nothing short of retarded. I suspect that's pretty much fact. I don't see how reacting the way you want to a show you paid to see is even remotely as retarded as your attitude.
In case you haven't figured it out yet, in wrestling, you're suppose to entertain the crowd. That's how you're a good worker, not by acting tough and trying to pretend it's all a legit sport.
So, if you want to be a wrestler, you should start trying to realize that. You're not going to be successful by having people chant boring at you and then just go ''Ah fuck them, my match was awesome they're the ones who are retarded''. Well they're the ones buying tickets, so I don't see how you're going to go anywhere.
In case you haven't figured it out yet, in wrestling, you're suppose to entertain the crowd. That's how you're a good worker, not by acting tough and trying to pretend it's all a legit sport.
So, if you want to be a wrestler, you should start trying to realize that. You're not going to be successful by having people chant boring at you and then just go ''Ah fuck them, my match was awesome they're the ones who are retarded''. Well they're the ones buying tickets, so I don't see how you're going to go anywhere.
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