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Zentile
01/11/2007 10:55 PM (UTC)
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lol, MVP is easily one of WWE's best wrestlers, so yeah I guess it makes sense that you dont like him.
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01/11/2007 11:04 PM (UTC)
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MVP one of the best ?

Please tell me....how is this so ?

I mean i beleve you, because you seem to know everything.

But i dont see it myself ?
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Zentile
01/11/2007 11:49 PM (UTC)
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I havent seen much of his work yet, I did see his debut match agaisnt the jobber, a couple of smackdown matches agaisnt Kane and I saw his live matches too (It was a singles versus Kane, and a handicap where he tagged with Kennedy to take on Kane).
I thought first of all, he's a great promo. His character, even though it makes no sense, totally gets over and he's great at playing the VIP MVP.
In terms of his ring work, his debut match agaisnt the jobber had more and better technical wrestling than nearly every other match on the card, and that's a major plus in my book. If a guy can wrestle, he deserves a job.
Most importantly though, his matches always have good psychology. Everything makes sense, he's great at playing a chicken shit and he doesn't have a ridiculous moveset. I like MVP alot.
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01/11/2007 11:58 PM (UTC)
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I see, well i am yet to see much in ring work from him, because his current story will only allow him to get his ass kicked every 5 minuits...so maybee in time.
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PhoenixWinterborn
01/12/2007 01:02 AM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
That card is actually more insane than most things TheMkGeek says. Obviously MVP will not turn face by Wrestlemania, and there's no way Edge and Orton are going to lower themselves to the level of Cryme Tyme, where they lose a tag match at Mania. I doubt they'll be the team champions come Wrestlemania, too.

Zentile, I know it'll more than likely NOT happen, but IMO, that would be a good card for wrestlemania. As for the Rated-RKO/Cryme Tyme match, I could actualy see it happening. You've got Edge and Orton, who are way over as heels, as they have been for most of their careers, and then Cryme Tyme, who is seriously over as faces, even though i'm not sure that was the original idea, but meh...
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01/12/2007 12:30 PM (UTC)
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Oh, so it's not an actual prediction. Predicting something and wishing for something are too completely different things. I still think the card is mostly pretty illogical from either WWE or a smart's point of view.

- Cruiserweight Championship: Greg Helms vs. Spanky vs. Scotty 2 Hotty -> London has the bigger singles push than Kendrick, and Scotty 2 Hotty is just... pointlessly there, he hasn't had a shot at any kind of title in years, he's just a jobber. If he'd get in, so would Funaki. Triple threats are used more in feuds than random CW title matches, a four way would be more apropriate.

- Money in the Bank Ladder Match: Jeff Hardy, Johnny Nitro, Booker T, Paul London, Ken Doane, and Tatanka -> There's no way London's getting in a match this size, not with his depush. If a CW could make it to this match, it would be Greg Helms. And what about Tatanka? Ridiculous addition, it would make more sense to have Umaga in it.
- Tag Team Championship Match: Rated-RKO vs. Cryme Tyme -> Now this is just senseless. Orton and Edge are main eventers. They're made to be on D-X's league, and there's a reason why D-X's matches with the Spirit Squad never featured the tag titles on the line- the tag title is a lower title. Rated RKO will certainly not have a world tag title match at wrestle freaking mania, especially not agaisnt Cryme Tyme who aren't half as over as them and aren't really at the same level, not by a long mile. I could see Orton and Edge defend the tag titles at Mania if it was agaisnt a double main eventer tag team like D-X, or something like Kane and Taker, but Cryme Tyme? No way.
WWE Women's Championship Match: Mickie James vs. Beth Phoenix -> Huh? Beth Phoenix wasn't in Mickie James league even when she was on TV, and it's been a while hasnt it? I dont think this match is completely impossible, but pretty unlikely and I dont really see what would be so good about it.
Interpromotional Match: The Highlanders (w/ Roddy Piper) vs. K.C. James and Idol Stevens (w/ Michelle McCool) -> Uh, what? James and Stevens aren't in the Highlanders' league, and there's really no point to this match.
ECW Championship: Lashley(face) vs. C.M. Punk(heel) -> Possible but it would be more realistic to have Lashley as the heel.

- Interpromotional Match: The World's Greatest Tag Team and Chris Masters vs. MVP, Ken Kennedy, and Matt Hardy (face team) - WTF?
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TheMkGeek
01/12/2007 08:33 PM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
I havent seen much of his work yet, I did see his debut match agaisnt the jobber, a couple of smackdown matches agaisnt Kane and I saw his live matches too (It was a singles versus Kane, and a handicap where he tagged with Kennedy to take on Kane).
I thought first of all, he's a great promo. His character, even though it makes no sense, totally gets over and he's great at playing the VIP MVP.
In terms of his ring work, his debut match agaisnt the jobber had more and better technical wrestling than nearly every other match on the card, and that's a major plus in my book. If a guy can wrestle, he deserves a job.
Most importantly though, his matches always have good psychology. Everything makes sense, he's great at playing a chicken shit and he doesn't have a ridiculous moveset. I like MVP alot.


All great points, I admit, he plays the chicked shit well, and he's shown some great moves, but like skinsley says, it's hard to make a difinitive opinion on him cause he's only been in like 10 or 15 minute a$$ whopping matches! Put him in agaisnt someone he stands a chance against.
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Zentile
01/12/2007 09:53 PM (UTC)
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Well guys just got my first pair of tights! I ordered them a while ago to this great guy, I'm sure I'll be doing more bsuiness with him soon.
The tights are long and blue, and they have ''PEGASO'' written on the ass (it means PEGASUS in Portuguese and Spanish) and two cool pegasus designs, one on each thigh. I'm quite pleased with them, only cost me 45 euro too. Cant wait to wear them for a show!
WM Wish list

Benoit vs CM Punk inter promtional(punk)

Money in the Bank: Umaga vs Hardcore Holly vs Chris Masters vs Matt hardy vs MVP vs rvd (matt hardy)

Carlito vs Kennedy
IC vs US

some gay tag team match

Some diva womens title

Undertaker vs Batista

John Cena(face) vs Jeff Hardy(heel)
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TheMkGeek
01/13/2007 07:12 PM (UTC)
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Thought maybe everyone might be interested in this:

** According to this week's Wrestling Observer Newsletter (1/15 issue), in a small note in the WWE news section, it says that they are looking at putting a new Hart Foundation group together, and that it would be comprised of Harry Smith, Nattie Neidhart, Teddy Hart (!), and maybe T.J. Wilson, who is Neidhart's boyfriend and basically grew up as an honoree Hart, spending most of his time in their household.

Apparently Neidhart will be starting in Deep South to begin with, but will be fasttracked to the main roster soon, as she is already a better wrestler than 99% of the current women's roster. They are working on T.J. Wilson's working visa. Teddy Hart's WSX contract expires in February. There is a massive question mark over him due to his reputation and his previous release from a WWF developmental deal due to 'attitude problems'.

With Survivor Series coming from Montreal this year (10 year anniversary of the screw job), the group will probably be on tv by that point and maybe even have a prominent role in the show.
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Zentile
01/13/2007 07:24 PM (UTC)
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Ah my tights look kickass with my white kickpads ^_^ hum, anyways, yeah that hart foundation thing would defenetely be very, very interesting.
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01/13/2007 07:34 PM (UTC)
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Are you shitting me...no way.

Do you think they would ofcourse feud with Michaels at some point ?

Over the Bret screw over?
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01/13/2007 07:36 PM (UTC)
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Yeah, I read about the hart thing. Hope Teddy can manage okey, he seams to burn bridges quit efficiently, lol.

I'd ask if I could see you in your tights, but that sounds gay and my american ego is to weak and sexually insecure to handle such comments....
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01/13/2007 07:39 PM (UTC)
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Satyagraha Wrote:

I'd ask if I could see you in your tights, but that sounds gay and my american ego is to weak and sexually insecure to handle such comments....


I was gona ask too lol :D
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Zentile
01/13/2007 08:57 PM (UTC)
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Sure thing, sugar.

You'll see me when I have a match on a show that gets filmed, lol.
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TheMkGeek
01/13/2007 09:10 PM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
Sure thing, sugar.

You'll see me when I have a match on a show that gets filmed, lol.


And we'll also get to see you in action! You'd better win to, lol! wink
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01/13/2007 10:09 PM (UTC)
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TheMkGeek Wrote:
Thought maybe everyone might be interested in this:

** According to this week's Wrestling Observer Newsletter (1/15 issue), in a small note in the WWE news section, it says that they are looking at putting a new Hart Foundation group together, and that it would be comprised of Harry Smith, Nattie Neidhart, Teddy Hart (!), and maybe T.J. Wilson, who is Neidhart's boyfriend and basically grew up as an honoree Hart, spending most of his time in their household.

Apparently Neidhart will be starting in Deep South to begin with, but will be fasttracked to the main roster soon, as she is already a better wrestler than 99% of the current women's roster. They are working on T.J. Wilson's working visa. Teddy Hart's WSX contract expires in February. There is a massive question mark over him due to his reputation and his previous release from a WWF developmental deal due to 'attitude problems'.

With Survivor Series coming from Montreal this year (10 year anniversary of the screw job), the group will probably be on tv by that point and maybe even have a prominent role in the show.


i hard that about 2 months ago. shes hot, and is a pretty decent wrestler, its a shame wwe will just use as her another playboy covergirl.
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PhoenixWinterborn
01/14/2007 03:12 AM (UTC)
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Okie, maybe I was a little off on the WM thing, but imo, it'd be good. ANYWAYS..Zentile, I got a serious question for ya: as soon as im done with the navy here, im seriously looking into professional wrestling as a career. How long did it take you to get where you are, and is it as hard as everyone says it is? I've been serious about doing this for a few years now, but was never able to find a school where I lived. I know you can't help with that part, but I figured I'd put it in there as part of my struggle story. lol But all kidding aside, how hard was it to get where you are?


Oh, btw everyone, I'm leaving on my first deployment with the Navy on Ffriday, so I probably won't be back on until mid-to-late August, fyi.
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01/14/2007 08:07 AM (UTC)
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Damn, that sucks man. We're going to miss ya. Thanks for your service, too. You dudes are top tier. Like always, i'll be rooting for you dudes to get mad pussy when you come back home. grin
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Zentile
01/14/2007 11:03 AM (UTC)
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Well brother, the truth is it's been pretty easy getting where I'm at, especially since it's not much a spot,really. I mean it is a great spot here in Portugal, since the industry is just starting to rise, but I'm sure you can do better than me alot quicker since you live in U.S.. The only thing you have to find first of all is a school, no doupt about it. I didnt get the prilege of going to wrestling school (I am planning on attending either Lance Storm's wrestling school or the ROH school in a few years, though). The truth is I'm a pretty much self made wrestler. I mean, I havent learned anything from schools, just from three guys who did attend the FWA academy for a week (a special boot camp week long training program) , and I also learned from watching wrestling matches and secrets of the ring (especially secrets of the ring with Raven, it's a great set of tapes that teaches you SO much).
Still, even though my place isn't all that good, I was basically lucky to get everything I got. I wouldn't've wrestled for APW in the two day long portuguese title tournament if Korvo hadn't been injured, and I wouldn'tve wrestled in Spain for the EWE if Bammer and Pavao hadn't refused to do more business with APW, so I've actually just been pretty lucky.
Find a school, brother. That's the best advice I can give you. And also, make sure you're the best at it, dont just work to be decent or just good, work to be the best, because there are SO many guys in the entire world who are wrestlers or who are learning, that if you want to have a decent spot in this industry, just a decent spot, you have to be one of the best. Of course you also need alot, ALOT of luck, because there are thousands of amazing wrestlers who you will never hear of because they just didnt get lucky.
Also, you have to keep your mouth shut. Dont ever burn bridges with anyone, dont get angry with anyone, dont get in any fights... because if you're a respectful person who never gets into shit with anyone, you will most likely always have a job (assuming you can also work, something that very few people can do nowadays).
And last but not least, always show the veterans respect and always try to soak in as much knowledge from them and take all the advice from them. That's one thing that I sure did to get where I am, I always showed the veterans respect, and in turn, they showed me respect and taught me stuff, so I became better. Alot of veterans (if not most) have this thing where they dont want to teach stuff to just any guy. It has to be someone special to earn their teachings.

That's basically the best advice I can give you. Good luck brother!
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TheMkGeek
01/14/2007 09:06 PM (UTC)
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This is claiming to be a WWE Hall Of Fame Spoiler, but I doubt all the names listed will make it in this year, they might have to split them up between this year and next year, there's allot of names:


Spoilers: (Highlight to reveal)

(Posted online on the 12th of Jan.)

Today, Hogan made an appearance on the Bubba The Love Sponge show and appeared to be a bit drunk. However, while on the show he got a phone call from Vince McMahon’s secretary, Ann Russo. She wanted to go over the list of names for possible induction into the Hall Of Fame this year. What she didn't know was that Hogan put her on speaker phone so all the names went out over the air. When he eventually told her she was on the air, she said she'd get in trouble and sounded rather shocked.

Anyway, the list of names were:

The Von Erichs
Ultimate Warrior
The Original Sheik
Ric Flair
Mr. Fuji
Nick Bockwinkel
Muhammed Ali
Mr. T
Mike Tyson
Howard Finkel
Jim Ross
Ken Patera
King Curtis
Ted DiBiase
Jake "The Snake" Roberts
Honky Tonk Man
Randy Savage
Dusty Rhodes
Dick Ebersol (NBC Executive responsible for creation of Saturday Night's Main Event)
The Wild Samoans
Big Boss Man
Bob Backlund
Rick Rude
The Bushwhackers
Rocky Johnson
The Brooklyn Brawler

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TheMkGeek
01/15/2007 06:09 AM (UTC)
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Well, TNA results:

New World Champ in Christian, bad move for TNA, imo, but Angle's going to kill him next month.

If TNA doesn't want to give Team 3D the belts, which is a travisty, imo, then they need to figure out a better, less stupid way to do it.

Finally TNA gets a REAL woman and Gail Kim gets hers! I love it! tongue grin

So, what, is VKM pointless now or what?

Samoa Joe/Angle 3, was everything and a whole lot more, imo. Lot's of great action, tons of false finishes, and more. I hope that this isn't the end.

All in all, a solid ppv. Still no where near the calibre of WWE, but good none the less.
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01/15/2007 06:42 AM (UTC)
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Yeah, ppv sounded dope. I'm downing it now. Nice to see a womens division is kicking it up. Heard something about kip saying females are only good at giving "blow jo..." Man, come on TNA, that's the shit that made me stop watching E.
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Shinnox
01/15/2007 06:50 AM (UTC)
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nothing is up to wwe "standards" (which is a great thing imho) according to your fanboy ass.

jacky sucks and has the wrestling ability of a one legged dog.

i hope that if tna does bring in a womens div that it isn't a watered down pile of shit like the wwe promotes and they actually get women for their wrestling ability and not to sell playboy mags.
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firesnake
01/15/2007 07:16 AM (UTC)
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i think it's great tna is bringing a womens division they should start looking into shimmer and promntions in japan cause thoes women can wrestle
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