sup buddy..
unfortunatly, i dont have any money left to stay online, and need to start preparing myself for october when mka comes out and beyond, im hoping to be situated and back to doing what i love by the end of the summer, btu more importantly to get started on it asap. i will see about staying another month. but i really need to get moving
its been fun, i cant do that mileena 89%, lol. i give up, good luck to anyone who wants it... of course ill try it some more tonite but after this, thats it. lol... im sending those tapes tommorow morning..
glad u liked the 111cs3x, you realize this does insane damge on gamecube still, giving shujinko over 100 off them at any time, the damage is always 25+ for each 111cs, doesnt matter if each hit u do counts as zero before it, as soon as u start the second 111cs, the damage is 25% for each plus144cs, which is around 27% or something. hehe.. they couldnt fix check's combos in cube
id love to get back on cube now that i know how to do this and see if 4 is possible, omg that would be terrific.. i always found that combo easier on ps2, yet, i found it the day i got it for cube!! cube for life!!
nukes, one day, i hope we can play this game, and mk7 too, i hope to see u online with me practicing combos please tell me u dont live in china or something. lol, later buddy thanks again

check i still dont understand why you have to leave. you say 'i dont have any money left to stay online' does that simply mean your internet bill is too high or something? lol

you say 'but i really need to get moving' are you in the army or air force? when you say 'head out' does that mean you are getting deployed? your words have a very vague and subtle meaning. sorry if im mistaken but i know someone in the airforce and when he has to leave he says he has to 'head out'

thats true about the shujinko combo, they nerfed his flip kick so that any damage you do after it is toned down. but im glad that you found a 100+ for him on the gamecube! i was getting envious of all of your insane shujinko combos on the ps2 and was glad when one finally came out that i could use on the cube.

yeah its a shame that MK:A is not comming out for cube. this means i will have to get an xbox, sigh. i guess they just couldnt fit all of the data on the gamecube disc or something?



if you only listen to one thing i have to say before you leave, listen to this.i will always be in awe of your 5 li mei flip kicks. how does it feel to be the ONLY human being in ALL of existence to land 5 motherfucking flip kicks with li mei? i dont think anyone else on this planet has done it, literally. that commands huge respect check!!


LOL, i live in connecticut, although i have a friend that wants to study abroad in china.

i just want to know what is happening to you. i mean someone who has poured so much of thier life into this game and then they are about to vanish, it doesnt make sense.

He's going to lay low until MK:A.

Nothing to be worried about Nukes...btw, did you see Juggernaut's 92% Kung Lao MKDA combo yet?



He beat me by 1%! Why didn't I think of that?! lol

yes i replied and updated with juggernauts 92 kung lao. thats a fucking work of art man! amazing!

about check, it still would be nice to have a reason as to why he is leaving. my guess is either he found a new job with more hours or he is gonna join the army or he is simply sick of playing mortal kombat but i dont find that likely! it would be nice to hear why he is leaving from his own words.

i think i may have found a new sub zero open air combo.

here is my theory
(miss first 3 hits)
shotokan:1,1,3,cs,cs,cs,1,2,1,2,cs,1,2=??%

i tried this a few times and finally got it to sorta connect, i missed 1 hit and got 54%, but im postive that if all the hits connect it will do more than 55% which i think is sub zero's highest open air combo at this time? someone see if they have more luck with this than i do.

sorry nukes.. ive been away from the whole site here by choice... it just doesnt motivate me like it used to do, online in general, ive spent too much time online as well as dedicating myself to this game/site... i just need to get away and focus on the future, and being able to come back and share mortal kombat 7 with all of you as well, my funds for high speed internet service has expired.. i originally got the dsl for online play of mortal kombat deception, and it was a great expierience, something i looked forward to since mkda, but i just dont use it for anything else, and online play has gotten very scarce, as well as im nto impressed by the attitudes of the community, theres only a few people i talk to for games and mk in general, everyone else has abandoned me or chooses not to interact with me about the game very often, its just not worth once or twice over few months tog et together with these people to play, i expected to be online every night with multiple people, but its obvious that is not the case.

i hoep to see alot of new members for mk7 including yourself, to the online gameplay family here, and a increase in the level of respect towards the game and each other.. ive come extremly far in that respect, from being an "ok player" to one of, if not the best player online. i feel i dont get respect i deserve for this, as well, my connection when i play vs others is always at a disadvantage, its very troubling, but through it all, and how far ive come, i still have my beliefs about how the game shoudl be played, and i seem to be the only one who feels that way.... i dont think thigns will change, but i hope to find alot more people who see things my way isntead of worrying about winning and being considered the best, i play this game for fun, and i wanna win respectivly. lets hope mk7 is just that. if not, ill be returning my mk7, or just keeping it for offline play and combo fun.

as for this thread, i really have nothing else to commit anything to it, but is also a part of why i keep my online service.. itll be a while before i get back online, but lets hope i can stay on dial up, and not have to restart my whole service.. ill mostly be keeping online for after work, and building up a profit, so i can enjoy myself again next year all over again as i stated in another post... i also have other things, much more important than this i need to stay focused on, which somewhat involves online for the time being, i cant keep sitting here and ignore the things i need to do. the things i was doing before this site.

plain and simply, i can do all of the above, and not leave at all, and that is what i am aiming for, but i just need to get away from this lifestyle, and pursue a greater enlightenment, this site, better yet, this thread, has given me soemthing ive wanted since i was a kid growing up, to be a part of mk history, i feel ive done that, though im sure others can say theyve done the same as me. id like to hope im the only one

again, thank you for your comments on the li mei combo, im actually working on 6 flip kicks, but its not something im planning on focusing on in the next few weeks... it does feel good to able to do that, but i encourage u to keep trying, because its not too hard, i would imagine it being done the cube might not even be possible, although i doubt it, and probably 6 flip kicks is only possible on cube

sorry for the long post, but i felt i owed it to you for your extremly kind words and understandinf towards me, people like you are hard to find these days.. thanks for caring so much, you have my word ill be back, and wont let u down for mk7. take care

oh btw, i tried ur sub zero combo, very nice, but i cant do a manual switch after second part, only dial a combo.. i feel this is another cube only combo

i refuse to let you go check. you just bared your soul in that last reply and im not gonna let it go unanswered.

mk7 will definitly breathe a wave of new life into this site and im sure your combo creating godliness will be shown again, something i think this whole site is looking forward too. and hey, i know not many people acknowledge your impressive, dedicated work, but just keep in mind that there are probobly many others who brose through this thread, read all of your combos, and think to themselves 'wow, this guy has some amazing shit to share. these combos are so much fun to watch!' they dont hit that little reply button and actually TYPE it out for you to know, but just keep in mind that there are MANY who think that. i used to be one of those people.

after you beat my li mei combo i just wanted to quit like what you are doing now. i was angry and frustrated because you beat me, i was pissed. i worked hard on that li mei 102 i posted way back and then you came in here with one much higher than that, like 130 something and you managed to use the wall for the b+4 in lui he ba fa, which i knew that i could never get on camera.

now your talking about 6 flip kicks, i cant just sit here and not say anything, because that just blows my fucking mind. 6 flip kicks? how can this be? is such a thing even possible? i have to think hard on how long that combo took you to make. i HAD to say something causee i respect that!!

now you say that you are done making combos but there are 2 more things that i want your insight on before you leave!!

about li mei:

my favorite thing to do with her, and this MAY lead to some more damage for her, is after the b+4 in mi zong, cs to lui he ba fa, and then do 3,3 that double kick thing, and then right after that you can do 2,2, and then flip kick, and then 2,2, and then flip kick, and then 2,2, and flip kick again, giving you 111% damage in the open air. now, i said this because im hoping that you can get some more damage off of this, becausee the 3,3 is MUCH easier to land than the 1,1,2 off of the b+4 launcher in mi zong. please, try this, im sure you can get even more damage for her. keep in mind that the 3,3 actually does more damage than an extra flip kick.





about sindel:

i have found something with sindel i think you should know. i watched your godly 104 damage combo with her, you know the one you were on the slaughterhouse stage with scorpion, and you launched with a b+1 in zha chuan.

well, i found that if you use this combo, in fu jow pai, 1,1,2,cs, and you miss the first 2 hits, youll get 8 damage for the 2 strike and then 8 damage for the cs, giving you 16, and when you cs twice back to fu jow pai for the 1,1,1 punches, they do the SAME damage in the air as if you had done the b+1 in zha chuan.

so, take your previous sindel combo, and open with 1,1,2,cs miss first 2 hits in fu jow pai, and it will add 6 damage, so you should get 110% with sindel now!!!

also why do you say that some combos are a 'cube only' combo? why would that make any difference? i know the xbox controller is a total piece of shit so that many combos are impossible on the xbox becausee you cant change styles fast enough with that stupid button in the back, but i think the ps2 controller is very good. dont quite understand what you mean by this.



anyway, just out of curiosity, what do you do for work? i plan on getting into real estate.

hey.. sorry again for the delayed response, i do hope that mk7 is not gonna be simple in terms of combos, i hope the air juggles replace free throws in that respect, it would make the combo look much more respectable as well as cooler to look, i can imagine doing 111cs with jinko, then jumping into the air, and finishing it there, that to me would make a awesome combo
as your li mei combo, first thing i said to thug when i seen it was, "thats a fake right?" i didn't think it was possible, then i just learned the faster u do the flipkick after the 112 or 2, the easier it becomes, and just kinda put it together, that 130/140% i actually learned on the gamecube, on ps2 you have to hold forward for 112 and the whole combo where as on gamecube you dont.. its like a childs version ( not really, but still that is something interesting ) i think it has to do witht he ps2 controller being pressure sensitive, way too sensitive.
ive never played on xbox and have only a xbox once or twice in my life, the otehr thing they fixed in cube in camera sorta, the camera is higher up giving you special jugglign capabilitys, i use to think alot of combos were "cube only" but that is not the case, theres only really one combo that is cube only and thats "b2, cs, 12, 12U+4, 12U+4" for sub zero, its just not possible on ps2, and ill say that as a fact... as well as sindels, i know ive done it on ps2, but yet i cannot do it on anything other than cube now its very disapointing but i knew that was case, and has been the case for a very long time, ever since i first found combo.
i cant wait to wait out that 33 for li mei!! the reason why im missing the 6th flip kick is because when i do 2,2, the second 2 misses because they are too far away, but i know its possible to do, thats why i said it works, I know it for a fact, and even more so on cube probably ( maybe ) really, its not possbile to do on any stage other than slaughthouse and you have to do on a complete angle wall to wall, from the circular part of the stage to the other circular part of the stage, my problem is im missing my 3rd flipkick, im buffering it too early, but im trying to buffer it as early as possible, because thats how its gotta be, its been very frustrating to be missing that 3rd flipkick like a noob
i will see to it about the combo
thank you for kidn words on the sindel combo once again, it was very frustrating for 6 months after doing it, to not doing it at all, to just saying, " if i was on cube, id do this combo ina hour " which i did, i thought i messed up at the end and was surprisec to see 105 instead of in the 90's, so i was glad. but ive said this in the past, that combo does NOT work off any launcher but b1 in first stance, you have my word. although one day, if i do play gc version, i will give it a test. it just may be my stubbornness but im almost positive it only works off b1
real estate seems to be the thing to do these days.. personally, im a writer/poet/musician currently looking to get back to my support in new jersey / philadelphia.. ive been stuck in florida for a few years and have kinda lost contact with them and as well as my own ambition to write, but i also was gonna be a manager at a restaurant, until i quit ( dumbest thing i ever did ) and now im looking to get back to that job, and my life from a year ago. best of luck to you sir! keep staying strong and positive!

heres a full damage otg for kabal in corner

Sun Bin

U+3, 13....fireball, spin, U+3, cs, cs, 114, cs, cs, 11cs14cs

ill post more later

i abosolutely promise that li mei can land a 3,3 in lui he ba fa after the b+4 launcher in mi zong, and then juggle with 2,2, and then flip kick. ive gotten 111% damage with her, ive done the combo exactly twice, its not that hard at all, at least compared to landing the 1,1,2 in lui he ba fa, thats harder. its not a 'fake' or whatever you meant by that, lol.

you said 'i cant wait to wait out that 33 for li mei!!' im not sure what you mean by this. did you mean, you cant wait to try it because you dont have a gamecube at this moment? if thats the case, did you lose it or something? lol? well i hope you find it!

6 months for the sindel combo? good lord! and your sure that the fu jow pai juggling doesnt work after the 1,1,2,cs? ill take your word for it, but when the opponnent goes into the air, they flip around in the air in the same manner as the b+1 in zha chuan. maybe its just that its not possible to cs twice fast enough to get the timing perfect?

i noticed you said 'real estate seems to be the thing to do these days' but im having a hard time finding work, i cant even count on 2 hands the number of places ive called looking for a job and they all turned me down. after some more investigation it turns out that the market is just low right now and ill try again in a few months.

you mentioned that you are a musician, what do you play? is it the guitar? hehe maybe its a lucky guess? if so what kind of guitar do you usually play with? i know someone who has a REALLy nice dove, it has a beautiful cherry red finish, its a beautiful as it sounds. they have a hummingbird also, but the dove is better. who is your favorite guitarist? im a huge fan of joe satriani, steve vai, and eric johnson. i was also a fan of randy rhoads before he died.

as for the restaurant business, i used to work in a pizza shop, it was my first job, and i have to be honest i didnt like it, in fact it fucking sucked. i didnt last more than 3 months before i got canned. so im glad that you had a chance to be the manager at least. what particular restaurant was it?

dont worry ive done incredibly stupid shit too, especially with work.

hey the best of luck to you too my friend. hopefully we can keep this conversation going.

nice kabal combo, off the ground combos always make me chuckle, cause i always think of what ed boon would say if he saw that. i wonder if he even knows half the shit that goes on in here..?

I hate 1,1,2 cause that damn thing is never consistant, even when you hold forward. The 2 misses too much for me to want to use it on opponents and I found that out the hard way on many occasions.



lol No need to promise if someone else also says that it can be pulled off. *points finger at himself* I'm still tinkering with it a little, adding a little variation to catch people who love to use AR to set them up for b+4 again.


Ghostdragon

lets face it, with the proper timing, if you time it perfectly every time, li mei probobly has an infinte with the flip kick and then using the 2 strike in lui he ba fa.

i think the best launcher to use, to get the most possible flip kicks, is the karnival spin, its pushes them the highest AND has the least delay. wont give the highest damage, though.

hey man, sorry again. i hope u can understand that im just worn out, and it takes a lot to still come here and post.. i hope this makes it up to you

i tried the 3,3 thing with li mei, no luck but ill try it again next week or so. still working on 6 flip kicks.. i actually understood you wrong, and thought u meant that after 5 flip kicks do 3, 3, and so on and so on. but maybe doing 3,3 first will change the drop/projectory.

yes i meant, i cant wait to try the 3, 3, lol. sorry man, glad u were able to figure it out on ur own

now, for the sindel combo!! haha! 145% for sindel

B+1, cs+1, 111, 111, 111, 111, 111, 111, 111, 111, B+2, ss, throw

how ya like that?? wall to wall on angle, and now i can pull this off on ps2!! i was so glad, its actually easier on ps2, lol. funny indeed. i wonder why i couldnt do it, and had to rent it for gc to do it? im so stubborn!

but now, it is all good, and just last night, i decided to try out the other juggles that we talked about for sindel, and indeed u3 works!! but is a little bit different ( so does 112cs, ill get to that right about now )

Fu Jow Pai ( miss first 2 hits )

112cs, cs, 11, cs, 111, 111, 111, 111, 111, 111, 111, 111, b2, ss throw = 143%

i pulled that off last night and its SO EASY, omg. compared to b1, there is no comparison, off of U+3 or 112cs, this combo works 90% of the time, I guarentee it!

notice the difference is begining of the two

B+1, cs+1, 111

112cs, cs, 11, cs, 111

so hard to explain the first, but the second is incredibly easy, just do cs, 11, AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE, then do cs, 111, AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE!! its as simple as that, then the 111's after it are not hard, although if youre not paying attention, they will drop after the 3rd or 4th set.

i forgot to mention HOLD FORWARD for both! AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE

so for b1, cs+1, 111 u should do this

b1f, cs+1, 111

im not even kiddding when i meant hold forward that early, and dont let go till it says 135% up there!

well i hope that made u happy, i was thinking of u these past couple days

sorry to hear that man, just keep with the job you are at, and wait for the right time.. im not that good at switching job to job, i have to find something i like, and never leave, lol. i was gonna be a manager at a fast food joint, but i was unhappy with the way my level of work was being appreciated, so i left, dumbest thing i ever did, but i have my pride, might not seem dumb at all, but it was the best thing i had going for me, and i made a mistake by being so immature as to just walking out on them, like a kid.

i walked out on my district manager, lol
hopefully, ill be able to go back there, but i doubt it,and if i do, ill be flipping burgers , oh well, whaddya gonna do, thats how it is. as long as im ready for mka, ill be happy

i dont even have a controller to play right now, lol, my cs trigger is broken! lmao, i broke it from doing too many combos and i swear its true! mkd is the only game i own lmao, too funny. i ordered a couple more, hopefully they will be here soon so i can finish up on some combos for the movie

actually, im not that kind of musician, i write music, inspirational/conscious hip hop.. spoken word so to speak. it has done wonders for my overall mind/body/soul and i wouldnt be who i am today without the years of music and recording behind me, im very credited for my work, one of a kind so to speak, the way i write, the amount i write when i do, and how its just all good, and never fades, 7 minutes thru the song ( thats right, 7 minutes ) a huge inspiration to me is aesop rock, although i sound nothing like him, i just feel he is the most purest writer, and sounds SOOOO cool, he is just amazing and appeals to everyone outside of majorityof those who listen to "mainstream" thats basically what im trying to do, to appeal to any/everyone. thats why i laugh when people try to put me down for my work, how can u put something down that is positive/inspirational? anyway, sorry the confusion, although i love getting behind a band and doing some songs thru that, in fact, i enjoy it more, i sound SOOOo much better, very intense

well, i hope this made it up to u nukes you are a truly good soul, and i want u to know that, i sense it from u, and want u to continue to prosper from life day by day, and dont worry about anything, its gonna be alrite, best of luck to you too my friend! thanks for the love on kabal combo too!, although it doesnt work only this works FROM ANYWHERE BESIDES THE VERY CORNER, and as long as u are not standing right next to them when u do the fireball... this is what i got, and i do all the time, but i think its an inf, damnit i love this combo

U+3, 13, spin, backdash, fireball, spin, U+3, cs, 11cs14, cs, cs, 11cs14

im pretty sure 2 spins makes it an inf, also unbreakable infinite, spin fireball, repeat

talk to u soon man! ill let u know how things are going for me please check ur PM's in the coming weeks

and thanks again

sorry to hear that you are worn out, im guessing you are working alot of hours at your job, i myself have only worked 1 40 hour week in my life, at a nursing home, worst week of my life i shit you not, it was literally hell on earth. as of now i have no job, i just finished some classes on real estate, still looking for a job, i was thinking about getting a job at fedex, however im still not sure if i want to. i see you mentioned that you used to work at a fast food place, let me tell you i feel your pain, i used to work at a pizza store, and i hated every minute of it. which particular restaurant did you used to work in? i have a friend that works at a jack in the box in seattle, and i have another friend that works at a ruby tuesdays, and still another friend that used to work at a friendlys.

as for li mei, the 3,3 is actually pretty easy to do. start in mi zong, use the b+4 launcher, cs twice as quick as possible, and then hit 3,3. it should hit them while they are still high in the air, and then you should land 2,2 in lui he ba fa, then go for a flip kick, and then 2,2 in lui he ba fa, just repeat as many times as you can, and end with the flying punches. the highest ive gotten is 111% open air no throw or wall.

YES!!! the highest combo yet?! im glad you found the sindel thing is worth something! so you said its easier to work with! im glad, but why did you add punches in zha chuan? i thoght fu jow pai was better, maybe its just because you need to set the juggle up right. your the master, and you know best! so you got 2% less than your NEW sindel combo which does 145%... thats fucking godly!! isnt that the highest yet?? the 3 highest damage characters in the game are li mei, shujinko, and sindel, right? but now your saying tha sindel is number 1? wow! i never saw that comming!! glad to hear also that its so easy for you!

now when you say conscious hip hop, im not exactly sure what you mean. could you name some other artists besides aesop that you enjoy listening too? im not familiar with aesop rock.

hey thanks very much for your compliment on being a good person, and i also want you to find happiness somewhere, you have invested alot of your life into this game and i think that you should get something back for all of your work. i hope you find a job that you are truely happy in!!

as for kabal, i didnt know that a fireball gives a free spin. way cool, ill have to try it out later. thanks for showing me that. you say that a spin, fireball, spin is unbreakable? man thats godly.

i promise i wont give up on this. looking forward to talking again.

"im off to find the roses, a love lost, hopeless, must find a way to open, my past and hold it, back, a ghost is, only a fragment, of my exaiminations, spirits searching for lost loves ones from the 1930's, tradgedy lasts after your dead and before u know it, youre right back where u started, doped up and controlling, all those thoughts of homies, hoes, and fuckin familys, cant get past the friends before foes, but im slowly, reaching peoples hearts with spoken holy poetic flowing" - check

hey man, thanks for the appreciation on how im doing and all, its just been built up for a while now, and im just depressed, it has nothing to do with work.. i havent worked in a while.. jsut shit that id rather not discuss here but rather a PM or thru AIM if u have.. but im ok, dont worry, just going thru some emotional changes, and really dont like talking too much.. these long posts take a lot out of me, but i very much enjoy them, and appreciate you reading them, and more so, replying to them.

i can imagine how hard that must have been working at a nursing home, 140 hours a week is just insane.. ive never heard of anything like that. all i can say is, im glad the week is over and youre done with it, dont me a favor and dont put yourself thru that again. you deserve better. but i must commend you on ur dedication, simply amazing, and i thought i was a good worker. that along with helping people in need is a godsend. my brother is a doctor too.. he went to school in harvard and now lives in connecticut right by you! next time i visit him ill arrange a meeting for us, but i just want u to know, u have my upmost respect as a worker as that comes as no surprise from what i know about you as a person

fedex sounds like an interesting job, but again, sounds like ur putting too much work on urself then u should.. i always enjoyed working hard, i took it home with me, and it made me real good about myself on my days off.. i miss that..i would jsut recommend taking it easy until those real estate classes pay off, im sure a job there wont be hard to find, depends on ur location if we already talked about that.. but i use to work at a wendys, it was a brand new store, worked there prior to it even opening up at another store to train only. then when it opened up for a year or 2. really, it was the hurricanes here in florida that fucked me up, i didn't work for so long that when i got back to work, i lost my motivation and just kinda went downhill from there. and quit 2 or 3 months later in november, ( not last november ) and i just been chilling ever since off money i saved from there.

id like to work at friendlys or a smaller diner, something like that would be interesting.. but i already worked at a italian restaurant, ( my first job after telemarketing ) and im not so sure i can keep up with that kind of work anymore, much different than fast food, lol. best of luck to ur friends elsewhere in the country

thats pretty impressive with the 112% for li mei, i was talking to someone who said they did 5 flip kicks off 2, 2 alone, but i dont believe him because of how its set up, but if u say u got 112% of 2, 2's alone after the first flipkick, then maybe it does work. as i mentioned before, im only missing the 6th flip kick because at the end, when i do 2, 2. im missing the second 2 and i need that to reelevate them for not just another flipkick, but a juggle after it ( ff2, b4 ) i still havent tried, i really cant do much with the controller i have right now, but when i get a new one, ill try

ive just been doing sindels combo since it doesnt require any cs'ing ( my broken button ) or directionals too much ( my directionals are fucked up too ) so yea that is the highest possible combo, but i did a new one tonight that did 159% 30 hits. i really cant explain the difference between the 145%and 159%, id much rather u wait and see for yourself in the vid, but i can tell u that the 159% is not possible without starting with the practice character AGAINST the wall, you doing b1, cs 1, and you switching sides with the practice character , and just starting the 1,1,1 juggles.

that 159% is

Zha Chaun

B+1, cs+1, 111, 111, 111, 111, 111, 111, 111, 111, 111, ( wall ) B+2, throw

as for your 112cs combo, you have to do the zha chaun punches in order to space the last hit of 111 after it just like the other combo, they are both set up the same. this 159% is actually easier than all of them, lol. since it uses the wall, u are a tiny bit closer to them and dont miss that last hit of the first 111. hard to explain.. sorry if im not doing a good job doing so, you just have to see for yourself hopefully its no different gamecube still.

thanks for the comment of the sindel combo, enjoy it when it comes time, as for the 3 highest combos in the game, it depends on how u look at it, you can say, " baraka has the biggest combo, because he can do over 1000% " or "shujinko has 200%-240% because he can do 100% after his throw " so ill just make 3 lists to show u whos the highest

1st List: Biggest Combos Without Throws

1) Baraka : 1000%
2) Sindel: 149%
3) Shujinko: 146% ( he has higher, and ive never done this 146% and never will, lol. highest ive done with him is 132% )
4) Li Mei: 143%


2nd List: Biggest Combos With Throws

1) Baraka: 1000%
2) Shujinko: 240% ( never done more than 220 something )
3) Darrius: 165%
4) Li Mei 159%
5) Sindel 159%

lol, wtf? li mei and sindel tied? thats too funny ..lmao

Biggest Combos Without Barakas 1000%

1) Shujinko: 240-250%
2) Darrius: 165% ( yuck )
3) Li Mei: 159%
4) Sindel: 159%
5) Kabal Glass Combo: 135%

this was a quick list, but im pretty sure its accurate.. i forget li meis combo, lol, it did 159% right?

as for music, i dont listen to much.. i really try not to listen to anything as an artist, it effects my own music when i hear others. i basically only listen to myself and my friends stuff to help them. sorry man i enjoy listening to cypress hill and the psycho realm though if ur interested the way i write though, is mostly from my conscious, but i like to get crazy at times and say some weird stuff, it all fits tho... its just part of how i write, i dont wanna stay too much on the same thing, basically, youd just have to read it for yourself, or listen to it when i finally get it all recorded

well deserved my friend, you are a good soul, and i want you to know that, if u ever need anything, let me know, and ill be there no matter what.

i really enjoyed this quote of yours: "you have invested alot of your life into this game and i think that you should get something back for all of your work"

i hope so too nukes and i hope i find a job asap.

glad u liked the kabal thing, enjoy it, and everything else you may follow into with

take care man

what about bo? i know for a fact he has over 100%. i've done 100% online but its hard, and im possitive you can make it higher.

12,cs,33,cs,cs, 12,cs,33,cs,cs, 12,cs,33,cs,b+2,jumpover,throw, into like 58, into some kinda wall combo or somthing.

what about ns too? you have the free smoke cloud and the otg plus a free grab, thats alot O_o lol.

as for the baraka thing, how high does it really go? is there a limit on damage? i never really tried to get that high lol.

also if you could get jinko out of the arena how many 111cs's do you think you could do? 6? 7?

same with sindel, how many 111's could you do?

ok thats cool we dont have to talk about anything you dont want to. it just seems that we had a big convo going and its cool if you want to exclude some stuff. hehe long posts are fun for me i can type over a 100 GWAM so its really just 1 or 2 minutes out of my day. im the same way about work though, i havent had work for awhile either.


LOL check, no no sir, i said i worked ONE 40 hour a week in my life, not 140!! LOL there are only 168 hours in a week, so im not even sure its humanly possible to work 140. hehe that made me chuckle.

so your brother went to harvard huh. thats insane tell him congratulations. hah he is in connecticut too? LOL no shit! what town does he live in???? thats fucking crazy! what are the odds?

i HAD a friend that worked at wendys. hes been there for 3 FUCKING YEARS!! can you believe that? 3 years at a fucking wendys? thats UNREAL. i cant believe he can stand it... i visited once and i knew right away i would never work there!!!

telemarketing, wow, thats gotta be fucking harsh. and boring. im sorry you had to go through that man.

i used to work at a life insurance company and i had to make calls like that, to old people, basically asking them if they wanted to buy life insurance. i had to read off a script like i imagine you had to do. jesus, it sucked didnt it? i didnt last long. i only got the job because i knew someone there.

yeah i know someone that works 40 hours a week at a jack in the box, which is basically a restaurant like wendys, they have them all over (not here in ct though). and i feel so bad for him cause he feels like he is stuck there. i could never do anything like that! i mean whats the point in living?

the highest li mei ive ever gotten was 111%, and i did it with the 3,3 afte the b+4 in mi zong. im postive that she can juggle more, dude lets face it, she probobly has an infinite going there with the proper launching and timing, and space. no contest!

fucking beautiful sindel combo. 159% is with the throw right? so without the throw it would be like 151%? so that means the highest legitmate combo in mortal kombat deception is done by sindel! awesome! who would have saw that comming!?!?

nice list, that ive seen youve made. i must say about darrius, that i think he in fact has the LOWEST gaurenteed LEGIT damage, meaning not counting his glitch throw. i think his highest open air combo is a measely 31 or 32%, like gauntlets, 3, cs,1,2,3,4 or something, gives only 32%. what a shame huh? LOL i seriously think he has the LOWEST LEGIT damage of all.


well a final note about jobs, if this universe has any fairness to it at all, we should go into business together,you and me and maybe some other people here, maybe hired by midway to test there games or something. lol... what a fantastic life huh? i mean we are obviously more qualified for it than whoever they hired in the first place for this game. although chicago is must colder than what you are used to in florida..lol

just think about it. a life full of beta testing in chicago, working with people that enjoy that same exact games that you do. man i can only dream!!

out of arena sindel i got 181%...it's an infinite if you don't blink. Anything breaks your concentration, the combo ends lol

Check, I know you can get higher...let's see 400% o_O

so wat it was easy as hell u jus keep em agaisnt the wall the whole time ur not special

sub has an infinate?...i tried to find it, but damn.... this thread dates back to feb 05, lol.

this post is long overdue.. my apologies.

ill see if i can get this done before i go

i really dont mind the long posts nukes, but like i said, id really rather not get into it here why

lol glad that made u laugh your reply made me chuckle as well, lol

yea man, hes one of the best doctors in the country, or world i should say, im very proud of him, despite our differences and past, mroe stuff id rather not go into. my brother was my mentor in gaming, life, sports, everything. but i take all my skill after him regarding gameplay ( ill never be as good as him lol ) ill have to get back to you about the town.. but when i do go there, i hope to swing by you and hang out for a bit.

telemarketing, lmao.. i only brought that up because it was my first job, dude, i was 15, lol. really no point of discussing it now, just made me chuckle to see it rather recent in ur life. ( and btw, i was a very good telemarketer, and was also selling life insurance in 2 months, lmao )

i feel the same way about wendys.. complelty stuck.. and jsut wanted to get out, there was a lot of built up anger , ( some for the wrong reasons ) now of which that i can correct knowing what i want before i work somewhere... for the time being.lets just say the months of anger built was the months of me trying to get to that level of comfort as well as lack of appreciation, which is totatly diffferent, but all ends up to the same path.


i definitly cant do that li mei combo, lol, i give up at 45% props to you, btw, as far as i can tell, 6 flipkicks isnt possible.. ive given up on it

sindel might have the highest juggle, i dunno, shujinko can do up to 6 111cs's , plus wall, plus spears might give him over 150% without a throw, sindels would be 149% i believe, or 147%

glad u like the list.. i know how u feel about glitches and all, and i respect that, but 10 out of 10 people play like this, so its considered legit, even tho i feel exactly like u do... i need to get going soon, but yea it is kinda ornic how high of a combo darrius has, yet has one of the lowest standard juggles in the game, i think only Wing Chun is worse ( good stance tho! )

i do one day i would be given that chance, it is a lifelogn dream of mine, and im very jealous of the people who already do test for this.. id liek to knwo if anyone can give me contacts for this sort of thing, as i really feel i can try with all the work ive put into this game.

ill talk to u soon, but before i go, the update for the thread



As i mentioned, shujinko can do 111cs 6 times before he hits the wall. i recently recorded it, here it is

U+2, cs, 111cs, cs~cs 111cs, cs~cs, 111cs, cs~cs, 111cs, cs~cs, 111cs, cs~cs, 111cs

this can be seen at konqrr.net under the gltiches portion of the site, i dont know how legit that particular combo was, still waiting on the reply from him, but it looks normal, besides the 5 flipkicks in a row, lol. im very curious as to what controller he used, because the only reason i found this combo is by ACCIDENT, lol i was testing with my 2nd controller, and wanted to go to round 3, so i had my practice guy kill him real quick, so i decided to do the juggle since it was shujinko. and out of nowhere, i do u2, 111cs 3x. and i say, " hmm, thats a first without flipkicks.." so i continued to test with it, and voila, it works.. up to 6, but im going to do 20 or so for the vid.

im just really annoyed that it doesnt work with a standard soyn ps2 dual shock controller, nor does it probably work with a gc pad months wasted on these standard ps2 pads, when i coulda just used this POS red controller ( made by HIP GEAR ) which i never used because i kept jumping with the dpad and the 4 attack buttons were very deep and hard to press down effectivly for high level play online. just makes me realize that there are better controllers out there. a few things i noticed about this red controller

1) walk thru does not work! it does, but its not nearly as easy as it is with a regular ps2 pad or gc. you have to tape forward at a certain time to move past them in corner. ( glitch imt alking about is in corner with shu: df2, walk thru throw )

2) the sindel combo COMPLETLY does not work on this controller, it does the last jab quick of the second set EVERY TIME where as with the dual shock block ps2 pad or gc controller, that last jab comes out slow, locking the opponent into place for 7 more sets of 1,1,1's so her highest combo on this controleer would be around 50 or 60

3) hmm, i cant remember, i need to be going, ill update the post when i get a chance but lastly, here is some new stuff i found





Free hits off of plants

Hotaru: B1, F2, jump cancel, hold forward, kick, throw

^^^
* jump kick is not blockable* when u watch it in slow motion, the kick hits them directly in the face and youre already jumping before their legs are half way TO the ground. i guess youll have to wait for the vid if u cant test it on ur own




Darrius: 3 df 3, jump cancel, hold forward, kick, throw

^^^
*same as hotaru* the jump kick cant be blocked, since i am fully canceling, you cannot block which leads me to this final, and scary glitch




NightWolf: 11B2, jutsu, 2

^^
* in corner only, after they get up from 11B2 plant in Tae Kwan Do, mash db db db, to fully cancel the opponents recovery, then do 2 ( pop up in TKD ) very very early. 9.9 times out of 10 youll whiff the 2, and do it too early, thats because you are too close to them because of the wall, and the kick is suppose to hit them in the head ( only place they cant block), instead of in chest/ribs


many more still remain, but i just thought this was the most broken shit i ever seen... you should be able to block at any time.. anyway, i went ahead and recorded this 51 for hotaru

B+1, F+2, jump cancel, hold forward, kick, throw, cs, 22U+1 = 51%

its pretty cool... but just seems too broke for its own good... espicially nightwolfs one, as it doesnt imply the need for the air, or a jump kick, just, 11B+2, then 2 as they get up...



still recording combos... kabal, dairou, finalyl recorded the legit 95 for dairou with the legit free teleport off wall, instead of a missed teleport as i said i would only do because it is too frustrating to get the real one.. well i did so again, dont say i dont love ya MKO that combo again is

Escrima

234U+2, cs, cs, 124cs4, (wall) F+2, teleport, ts drop, cs, 11F+3

for first part before the ts drop, it MUST do 11 hits, not 10, or else the teleport is blockable, the teleport MUST count as a hit registered with the combo.

happy to say dairou has 6 or 7 nice combos for the vid


and konqrr, ill try with sindel, but im not gonna guarentee anything. same as shujinko, i will purchase that device, as much as i dont, there is no other choice


to the person asking about the sub inf, it was found to be blockable, and he only has this inf in the corner online with alot of lag

Dragon

112, 112.. 112, 112, repeat.

hehe. i was wondering when you would reply. nice long one too.

WHAT THE FUCK!?!? 6 times you can use 1,1,1,cs with shujinko in mantis!??!!?

check. let me be the first to say:

you are a god amongst mortal insects. i bow to your godliness.

thats it. you have the most amazing combo skills of anyone else on the face of this planet with mortal kombat deception. not a single other human being, of the 7,000,000,000 that are on this planet right now, can do what you just did.

you are literally 1 in 7 billion. how does that feel? im positive no one else has done 6x 1,1,1,cs with shujinko.

well i would say shujinko has the highest damage juggle. if you can literally do 6x 1,1,1,cs he HAS to have the highest damage. there is no way in hell he could be beaten at that point.

im downloading that video right now, that you mentioned, i also see that konqrr has updated his site which is great, i see a TON of new videos i cant wait to download and watch.

so what your saying with these free hit combos, that you are getting a free extra strike when you shouldnt? is that related to OTG combos? or is it something different? i guess ill have to wait for your video.

nice dairou combo, i didnt even know it existed. 95% is great damage for dairou i didnt even know he could do it. hopefully you can ask konqrr to update the first post of this thread with all the crazy shit you have found!

hey take care man ok? if you decide to leave permanently, hopefully you will come back for mk 7 in october, got it?

hey, thanks man, i feel glad that someone with your skills would say such a thing. i use to think so too, but im finding more and more combos being done by others ( not many tho )

it still feels good to be the first one to find all of them, least that gives me the 1 in 7 billion thing going on god, this thread is year old! for me at least in it. * feels proud * damn, first combo, lol, scorpion 62 ahh the good old days, eh? good shit, i still remember finding the the 111cs juggle for shujinko, found it on cube too! thats one particular combo im very fond of finding even tho it wasnt the biggest at the time, it was just so funny, and it was for most the characters i picked. that was the first time i picked shujinko, lol, and found that combo. baraka, kobra, SINDEL, lol so many on my first few trys with them, and some of them the very first time. its shit like this that ill remember the most. me being strictly a scorpion player for many months into this thread.. it was basically because of this thread that i decided to learn as many characters as i did, and maybe wind up being the best randomer around ; )

speaking of which, did u ever watch any of my matches? ive been very curious as to what u think of me as a player, and mayeb u can offer some suggestions, i never really heard your thoughts on gameplay in deception, only MKDA, you seem to be a very good player, i would to hear your thoughts, and look very forward to playing you one day, im sure your one of the best.


my apologies with the shujinko combo on konqrrs site, its a fake, i asked him about it, and he said it was this weird code that you could hit them from anywhere or something? god i knew it was fake cuz of the flipkicks, but the 111cs looks so fuckin real, i mean, just watching how high they were, it looked EXACTLY like mine i felt bad when he said it was fake.. i really wish he would have left that out of the vid, but oh well... seriously, enjoy mine when the time comes, and i hope that little mixup hasnt spoiled or changed your excitement for the real thing. expect to see a 111cs 20x for the video ; )

yes that is exactly what im saying, the jump kick is not blockable when done at a certain frame. ive moved way beyond that old thing now and bring u this

56 for hotaru

Ba Sha Fan

B+1, F+2, walk up, 21cs, d1, 22 U+1

yup, it works, and FULL DAMAGE for 21cs, cant block

first of all, the 2 in 21cs MISSES, it is done a second early and when u watch it in slow motion, it looks like its actually touching their shoulder as they are getting up, but i think it misses completly anyway because the way u do this combo, you sidestep after the plant like a free throw, so its really not in line with the opponent, then 1 goes back into line and hits them, but hits them IN BETWEEN the step back, im pretty sure thats why u cant block, ive done this with li mei as well

B4, ss, cs, 11f1

ive done it different ways with the first hit missing, or the first two hits missing, and the first hit connecting, i guess 3 different ways for her, but hotarus is done only one way

after f2, you have to do quick recovery so u can move fast, it is tapping db db, youll see your character squinch a little bit, walk up, ( its not even a walk up, hes moves up one step so fast, that its really like forward, then up for sidestep almost at the same time, as well as 21cs you almost sidestep and press 2 at same time ) take a FULL sidestep and start 21cs almost at the same time as end of sidestep, you basically have to do all this, and i freeze framed it, the 1 in 21cs hits them right when it says on the screen

2 HITS
DAMAGE

it wont say the damage ( 19% ) yet, the register hasnt fully come all the way out yet, so if ur taping, just watch for that, and if u do time it to that exact time and still dont get it, you didn't do the rest fast enough, which includes

the amount of time u waste doing db db, then walk up.. basically has to be done at one speed and one way. as soon as u see your character squinch a little bit, walk up, you will be moving so fast from pressing db db ( i mash it, but u dont have to, its really only twice ) that as i mentioned, the step forward and up for sidestep is almost being done together, very little, if no pause, in between. the key is to use AS LITTLE FRAMES AS POSSIBLE. but not to not skimp on the sidestep as that is all that really matters. ... youre basically beating the camera to its postion.. id liek to get more into it, but i dont know for sure why it isnt blockable... really since the 2 in 21cs is missing and not being blocked is the indicator with the amount of time you have to actually hit them is the same to how it is set up prior. i also looked at the fight state indicator, and the red wasnt fully showing when i hit them with 1, it was about 3/4th's full but could have been the tape. tho if im right, u see how much time ur dealing with, not much

basically i feel u cant block for 2 reasons

first off, when the person gets up from a plant, they dont block right away, but that also doesnt mean that they cant block it before u actually see them block, that is just one observation, im pretty sure its both reasons mixed together

second is the SIDESTEP, the root to all the problems in mkd, whenever u do a sidestep throw, even if u are holding block, when the throw starts, you are not blocking, since the sidestep locks the character into a standing position mixed with the fact u cant block for a split second, if u were to hit them as they were getting up, but not actually hit them till they are fully up, but already starting the move prior, ( with as i mentioned with all these unblockable things,and hit them DIRECTLY IN THE FACE and is what i actually plan on naming this glitch ) if u ever watch the kenshi combo or any of those wall otgs, youll notice the hits dont match up with where they are connecting, its the same thing. since im starting the combo (21cs) and the 2 BARELY misses them, even looks like they are touching, thats how little time u have to time this combo, and the 21cs is a fast fuckin combo. but since the 2 misses them, it is early still i believe, but it missing because of the full enough sidestep, that the 1 hits them in this small of time of them getting up as well as in between moving back into place for the rest of the combo. sort of like how u can hit someone when they begin a roll out, and cant block, or even at the end of a roll out i believe.


so hard to explain.. liek i said, im not even sure how it works, im just glad its done and recorded. ill try and get it posted for you to see. it is a BAD ASS FUCKIN combo, thats for sure, ohh man, its one of my favs, too fuckin good. the onyl one thing about it is, is it may be blockable if the opponent mashes db db db the whole time, i have no way of testing it, but for now, the combo stands, and im glad it does, because it is one crazy fucking combo

maybe konqrr will update the highest ones.. id much rather save them for the vid, but ill gladly hook u up prior if i can with as much as possible, that dairou combo is the shit though, i talked about it alot, but real quick, it has to be done on a HUGE angle, because after the telepost, when u do the ts drop, you have to have room so that they dont go flying over you and it wind up being a wall combo, which u can still 26% or so, but doesnt really look as cool, again, just wait for the vid ;) i recorded another nice dai combo like that, that switches sides and i wind up getting a nice wall combo, no angle, here it is

231U+2, 311 (wall) teleport, ts drop, 124cs ( wall ) F+2

eh, like 70 or so, but real nice i liek it alot, can onyl seem to do it well on the beetle lair, ( my favorite stage, youll be seeing alot of it in the vid lol )

definitly my friend, you have my word, i wouldnt miss it for the world, imagine all the combos with kreate a kharacter theres gonna be 20 vids at least for KAK only. cant wait!

take care nukes, always fun

combos done by others? LOL... who the fuck else is gonna do 6x 111cs with shujinko? i highly doubt that anyone will ever pull that off besides you. also the godly li mei combos, those are incredibly hard to do, the highest i ever got was 111% and trust me, I TRIED. im positive you have the record with her too.

check you are the heavyweight champion of mk:deception combo pull offs no one will ever beat you. thats why i keep comming here to talk because i respect your work and love for the game.

i such with random, the only time i play mk:deception i play in practice mode just fucking around. if i ever play arcade its with li mei and none other.

as for the 'best player' well i think there is no such thing. i believe there is a certain top 5 or 10 who could only find a challange with each other. im sure you and your friends would rape the shit out of the game developers...LOL i love saying that. yes i have watched your matches. id like to see some LAN matches, not over the internet, that would be godly. you guys have invested more time into this game than they have. ed boon would get his ass HANDED to him on a SILVER PLATE. although im not sure if that would be a major accomplishment or not... its up to you. yeah basically you and your friends are the best im sure of it...

as for me the only challange i could offer you is in deadly alliance. now here is a game that i fucking love. i have played deadly alliance at least once a week since it came out. i cant get enough of that game... its just so much fun. deadly alliance was easily twice as much fun as deception, and its such a shame because i was so stoked when i first got deception. when i first got it, i brought it home on a friday night, sat in front of my tv, and literally did not move for the next 12 hours except to piss, im pretty sure i didnt eat anything. but after the initial shock wore off of how cool the characters looked, the game mechanics started to reveal thier ugly head, and i knew it, MK:deception was broken, far more so than deadly alliance ever was or could be.

LOL!!! thanks for calling me 'one of the best'.. but i gotta tell you, i have only played 1 or 2 matches with mk:deception... what a fucking shame, huh? my friend rented it one night with his xbox, i came over, and we played the konquest, and then we had some matches afterward.. and that was it. no one i hang out with likes mortal kombat so you can see my frustration. same story with deadly alliance, im a n arcade mode kind of guy. ive only played 2 matches in deadly alliance, and that was by chance when i had the game on when a friend showed up. well, fuck.

yes i watched the shujinko combo on konqrr's site.. and could not believe the opening video... it was so amazing, im thinking to myself, why the fuck did he crop the video against the text? you cant even see this amazing combo... and then you just let the cat out of the bag and said it was fake. fuck! i knew it! the flip kicks didnt make any sense in that one.

i guess konqrr showcased every single free throw in the game, which is cool, but i would have been more.. should i say... eager to watch some of the godly legit combos we have come up with capped on video. i noticed he had a 91% li mei there, which was cool, but konqrr you can get 111% with li mei and its just as easy, open air no throw.

now this 111cs video, is this online or is it on practice mode? i THINK your talking about single player but im not sure.

20x 111cs? i would build a shrine to you in my closet. i would start a religion, i would roam the empty streets in my area and try to convert people into the faith of CHECK. any doubters would be shown the 20x 111cs video and they too would be converted. i would get tax exempt status for sure. im dead serious.

glad to see your doing more with hotaru, because i couldnt do shit with him -_- most of his moves are slow and annoying and i cant bear to play as him. LOL..


tell you what. you know all of these combos you talk about, you should start your own site. like konqrrs but have it showcase all your combos that youve come up with. you dont even neccessarily have to possess a deep inner knowledge of HTML, you can use dreamweaver or something, im learning that right now because i need to make a website for a local business, tell you what, ill make a site for you oK? we could do a free hosting deal for awhile and link offsite to the videos, host them on filefront.com or something. what do you say?

its sweet that you can time this shit to hit the wall, id get so frustrated over that. im good with open air combos but i hate wall combos, take way too much focus and concentration. i noticed that you guys have no problem with them at all!


final note, do you play any online games at all? counterstrike? diablo? starcraft? quake 3 arena? warcraft?

and about the site, im still learning but im getting there, i know all about text formatting and menus, image formatting, etc. in about a week or so ill have a much broader understanding, and ill show you the site im working on soon.

P.S.- have you seen my speed video of silent hill 3? check it out if you have not.
Silent hill 3 speed video right here.