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Greetings all!

After reading this topic, I realized I should come to the rescue! In my closet I have a box full of EGMs. I looked through all of them in the 1993-94 range. I did not find the EGM with the picture, I did however find an EGM that might help this discussion along. The cover is ripped off so I have no idea what issue it is. In the "Most Wanted Trick Answers" there is this exact quote.

"The rumors on Ermac are running rampant! Ever since we printed the first "Most Wanted Trick" in the october issue-number 51, letters have been pouring in! Still, nothing has been definitely confirmed on the correct method in finding Ermac, but we called Midway and Ed Boon has confirmed that Ermac does exsist. He would not, however, tell us how to get to Ermac. Here are some of the letters we've recieved."


It then goes on to list the letters people wrote in claiming they found him, or saying its not real ect... It appears that it does not clearify on whether or not there is an actual character that playable/fightable or just a bug like player that appears called Ermac. I hope this can add to the discussion.

I have the issue right here next to my computer, but issue 51 is no where to be found in my collection. I was just as intrigued at the time of Ermac and I'm sure that issue was looked at heavily by my friends and I and has since dissapeared. Anyway. If you want prove that what I quoted above is legit, I will scan the page. I'm having problems with my webspace so I cannot post a scan of it myself. I'll keep my eye out for the issue 51 for you guys and if I find it, i'll scan the picture and send it to someone to host

My e-mail is Reilly311@hotmail.com

Cheers!

whoa man, if thats true, you could really spice things up :P

Not really. We already have uber vague confirmation from Ed.

There is also still the contradictory statement he made in 1999 "No one has found Ermac in MK1 yet" so anything Ed Boon says about Ermac carries no weight in this arguement because the man is known for lying/deception to maintain interest in the game.

Matt

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After this , i was still playin MK ARCADE whit a secret programm then i was.... like .... OMFG !!!!
Scorpion was now ERMAC !!!!!! yes , you can see this fukin asshole in MK1 ARCADE game.
Scorpion photo still the same

but when ur fightin whit him,
SCORPION 99 SUB-ZERO


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0x001x02ERMAC 99 0x011x1017

MK2KungBroken Wrote: There is also still the contradictory statement he made in 1999 "No one has found Ermac in MK1 yet" so anything Ed Boon says about Ermac carries no weight in this arguement because the man is known for lying/deception to maintain interest in the game. Matt

Oh how rediculous, ed boon doesn't need ermacs popularity to make mkpopular.

Second, just becasue he said nobody has found him yet in MK1 probably means nobody has found him because his there. Learn how to read. Besides, he did confirm the existance of ermac in mk1 in 1993 article.

Outworld, Zip it. Zip. Would you like a suckle of mein zipple? Oh look at me I'm Zippy Longstockings, shhh.

Seriously, you are a naive wretch (that's not an insult that's the truth) and you contradict everyone on this board no matter how wrong you are.

I am 100% right to say that Ed Boon would have done whatever it took to make people drop quarters in MK1, the game was a HUGE deal and SO many people played it just for the chance to fight Ermac, and it never happened for anyone. No one cares about the odds anymore, no one cares that he is a pallet glitch anymore, no one cares about how to get him anymore, because everyone knows it was a scam.

Let's get a reality check. It's been 11 years and only one person has gotten "Ermac" or so they claimed, yet NO ONE has made the ERMACS counter increase, and in other MK games, no one's made Johnny Cage or Kano transformations increase.
1. Possible pattern starts.
2. Pattern continues.
3. Pattern is confirmed.

You're wrong. Deal with it. I have grown to hate each and every MK board in some way. He didn't confirm shit because he still didn't say how to do it, you just have this strange way about interperating things incorrectly. If he can't provide a method of getting it to happen, then it's either A. Not real. Or B. Real, but something they didn't intend on, thus being an accident they didn't know about until the guy made the claim, so it's not a real hidden character no matter how you try to explain it. But if it is an accident they can't reproduce, then there's no way for it to say Ermac Wins, or for Ermac to have different properties than Scorpion. There's ZERO proof. Zero.

Matt

Alright listen up, this is big. I am going to post the pictures from the articles on Ermac from a month after courtesy of Reilly311, take a look at them, you will see, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that Ermac is a lie, and if not, was collaborated by Boon and co. and EGM, the only examples from believers are FAKE ways to get him, things that just do not work. Someone even says the energy bars are from the SNES version of the game. A few people say that it is out and out fake. I still want to see the picture of Ermac, because it is the soul piece of evidence to either prove or disprove it, but why no one can produce it and there are NO pictures of it on the net is beyond me. I will be able to tell IMMEDIATELY if it is fake, DreemerNJ, Quirk and Sakura as well. So someone PLEASE try and get a scan of it because this is just about sewn up.

www.darktemplarz.com/mk1/ermac

Matt

The letter and photo from Tony Casey.

http://pneophen.homestead.com/files/egmermac.jpg

pneophen Wrote: The letter and photo from Tony Casey. http://pneophen.homestead.com/files/egmermac.jpg

FINALLY!

Ladies and gentlemen boys and girls children of all ages.

That is the FAKEST shit I have ever seen. It's official, you suck.

Matt

how weak minded we all were back in the day.

It's just how I remember it lol...I had that mag years ago. I always wondered why the text "ERMAC WINS" was so bright when the rest of the image was dark as hell.

God, is this still going on? Somebody needs to close this thread. I've kept my opinions to myself simply because it won't matter or solve anything, but reading all these speculations and assumptions is getting amusing, therefore I must say this. First off, the article says a "polaroid." Polaroids aren't so easy to fake. Why someone would go to such an extreme is beyond me. Is it possible that EGM staged this to boost sales? Sure it is. Anything's possible. Even "unintentional errors." But you don't know that for sure, do you? Nor does it make any sense considering that Boon later stated that Ermac was an "unintentional error" in the game, resulting to an "Error Macro", which is where ERMAC comes from. But that's common knowledge at this point. This doesn't necessarily mean Ermac was a real character as so many people assume. With that said, how would Tony Casey know this months prior to that statement? Just because Boon said nobody has found Ermac yet proves nothing. Did it ever occur to anyone that he hasn't been found because he's not meant to be found? Because he can't be found? Being that it's supposedly an "unintentional error", how the hell would one find Ermac in the first place? Get my point? But that doesn't prove this supposed "unintentional error" doesn't exist. Second, slowly lower the brightness of your monitor. White surfaces tend to stay bright on some monitors. And keep in mind it's supposedly a polaroid. I've seen polaroids turn out in a similar fashion. My point is none of you are experts nor do you have any solid proof to prove or disprove this "unintentional error." Also, you can't assume a picture like that, being as small as it is and at such low quality, to be fake when the truth is you don't really know jack shit. Such claims to further prove your argument, with no explanation as to why you think it's a fake, is asinine. Kill this thread already.

I had a friend go through and edit a picture of Scorpion, there is no way to make the text stay bright like that and rest be so dark by taking a picture of it. She did everything she could to make it look like the Ermac pic, but didn't touch and specific colors. As you can see, that was just scorpion, and they manually put ERMAC WINS above it, if the magazine did it as a hoax, it wouldn't be difficult at all for them because they have the tools, look at the Shen Long fake, they actually manipulated graphics for that April Fool's Day joke. But even in 1993 people had the ability to scan and edit, Photoshop 2 was around I think, take a pic, scan, edit, print, take a pic of the edit, send it to the mag. The guy could have seen "ERMACS" in the audit under Reptile battles, and thought it could be a hidden character, and did this to try and get noticed, but honestly I think it's a magazine exclusive hoax. In any event, you will see that in the two pictures, at the exact same aspect ratio and size and in the attempt to make them look similar, the text is way off, and that is the key factor here. We tried to compensate for monitor res issures, the screen shot was taken at the correct aspect ratio.

http://www.darktemplarz.com/mk1/scorpmac.gif

Here is what my friend said she had to do to get it to look like that.

"lots of level/light editing, some desaturaing, some resaturating certain parts, and over laying blacks and blues to cover things as well as burning and dodging"

Matt

Why is it so important to everyone, especially you, Matt, to prove your theories? That still doesn't prove anything about the EGM photo. Red and Yellow aren't too far off from each other. You also neglect the fact that it's supposedly a polaroid and my whole statement about that. The text isn't so far off, either. Keep in mind that yours was edited with tools on a computer. The text on your edited photo looks more fake compared to the EGM photo. Also, the text on the edited pic is brighter than that of the supposed polaroid. :\

This is stupid.

Well the "polaroid" is just bullseye proof of the fakeness that's all, I don't know why you can't see that. Just saying "That does prove anything" over and over is ridiculous. Words don't mean anything, there is huge lack of common sense in these forums. We went over all this before the picture was even shown. The magazine did it, it's a hoax. bLeH bLah blarg.

Matt

How is it bullseye proof? There is no proof to back up this whole argument about Ermac on either side. You wanted some kind of proof of Ermac all along, and once somebody finally presents you with the very image that started this whole Ermac frenzy, you refuse to accept it for what it is. It may very well be a fake, but there's no way to prove whether it's a real polaroid or not. It's a waste of time to even try. And by saying it was a hoax by the magazine is purely an assumption. This has been my argument all along. Everyone, including you, are going by assumption and what you think is to be true. It's your own conclusions. That's all it is.

I'm not saying Ermac is real or that he's not. My point is nobody can prove either claim. Neither side has proof. Only assumptions. That's why this whole topic is so tiring. Both sides present their argument as if it's pure fact. And it's not pure fact. It's pure bullshit.

just looks hoakey to me these days. the bright "ERMAC WINS" along with the dark picture....the way ermac just happens to be posing perfectly in the middle of the stage. fake as hell.

I know the main point I get from the picture is that it is not a polaroid of a red ninja. It is a polaroid of a yellow ninja that has been underexposed so the entire image turns out darker. Thats why the banners in the background are as distorted from their original color as scorpion is from his.

Actually, if anything, it's player 2 Scorpion underexposed because his costume is mustard colored to being with, and the ERMAC WINS is fake, plain and simple. I haven't been waiting for this picture because I thought it would PROVE Ermac was there, I was waiting because I knew it would prove he wasn't.

Matt

Is it legal for a magazine to offer a reward for the info that is not real and made up by the magazine itself?? Plus wouldn't they have said at some point 'We fooled you?'? Not saying I believe, I'm just curious.

well, the guy's letter asked if there was a reward, and the magazine asked if anyone could find out exactly how to do it, and I have heard from three different sources, all of which have read EGM, all over the age 23, since that time period say "Didn't they say it was a hoax in a later issue?"

So I dunno, that's a little odd.

Matt

I think the story is more interesting than the pic. The story should pretty much kill any credibility that guy has. It's just so goofy.

He claims he saw Ermac a week earlier jumping down giving clues. WTF? That "I will fight you near the statues" thing isn't one of Reptile's clues. How could an error or glitch just happen to cause a red ninja to drop down and give new clues? That makes no sense. And what kind of coincidence are we dealing with where if this is a "million to one thing" the same guy saw him jump down then later just so happened to actually fight him? The description of the fight is ridiculous too. How would stuff like "I am Ermac, now fight me~!" and "ermac wins!" and all that get into the game? What he is describing is obviously no glitch. If things like clues to get to him and messages when you reach him are programmed in then surely it must be a real secret that's reproducable and if you're going down that road then it's insane to think that after a decade of play nobody has been able to find out how to do it.