The Perfect Mortal Kombat.
0
posted03/07/2010 07:54 PM (UTC)by
Avatar
BIG_SYKE19
Avatar
About Me

Member Since
07/05/2008 04:16 PM (UTC)
What combination of ideas or concepts from older mk titles, other fighting games would you like to see incorporated in mk9 or another future series.

For Example: some people would like mk9 to bring back that asian kung fu, tornament style, theme mood from mk1. some would like for mk to play like tekken, some want an epic masterpiece oscar winning story etc......

write your mix of ideas of how mk should be. thus creating your own perfect or dream mortal kombat game. you can adress story, gameplay, characters, basically anything thats has to do with the future mk games. remeber the perfect mk is your opinion, so it does not make it right or stupid.

put your self in ed boon shoes for just a minute, how will you make the next mk game?

now here is my perfect(dream) mk9 or other future mk.

Gameplay-2d GAMEPLAY BABY!!!

1.speed-like mkt
2.custom link combos- like street fighter
3.limited air combos- like street fighter alpha 3,not like mvsc2 or gg!!
4.parries- like street fighter 3
5.run without button-tekken
6.tech throws- like sf4
7.button map out- like tekken lp,rp,lk,rk
8.push back to block- like sf4
9.uppercuts,roundhouse,trip-mk
10.lots of blood splatter-mkt
11.crazy bloodly fatalities-mk
12.special moves- mk
13.cancel moves-sf4
14.juggles-mkt
15.parry combo breaker- would have to time hit right while in an infinity
16.wall bounce combos- sf3
17.multi tiered stages-mkt
18.ex moves/pro moves-sf4/mkvsdc
19.wake up-roll,attack-sf4
20.air parry/no air block
21.infinity damage scailing-sf
22.dash-sf4
23.dodge-sf4 like dhalsim
24.in game finisher-like a ultra from sf4 but rips and kill you during animation. only canbe done in second round.
25.guard break-sfa3

Graphics

1. 2.5d-like street fighter 4
2.dark gritty/ scary atomsphere- like gears of war and old resident evil
3.realistic/fantasy-like mgs4 and god of war
4.crazy blood-like gears of war,mk

Fighters

1.only from mkt and down with exception of quan chi and a few(7) others......
2.rest will be all new fighters, no copy cats, all new unque fighters.
3.make them cool like mk3 new fighters, not mkda-mka, they sucked!!!
4.more girls,diff races,non humans
5.REGULAR strong and powerful boss, no king kong this time!!!
6.customize fighter-like tk6(no corny items like hamburger hats)
7.fatality-each fighter has 3, one classic, two new
8.unlockable fighters
9.fighters will have their own stages and musical theme(mk style,epic,scary)
10.5-6 special moves for everyone
11.fighters will have a brutality
12.jump,kick,punch animation unqiue for every fighter
13.Signature combo-input a simple command and a combo(5-6 hits) is performed automatically . sig combo would be the main combo the fighter had in mkt.(ex: like jax circle pound punch,uppercuts you, then he knock you away or raiden triple punch combo)
14.stage fatalitys- for some fighters satges
15.balance/tiers-same intake and ouput damage(levels). everyone will have well rounded arsenal of specials,defense, combos to deal with any foe.

STORY-(lol yeah im talking about the story.)

1.alright i want the story to expand from deception. i want to see dark raiden and dark kang vs fujin and kung lao. they should be fighting over the leadership of earth realm. i want to ERASE the mka story line and endings from mk history. lol the dragon king would dead and shinnonk,shao kahn would be trying regain power together but, will not be tha MAIN evil threat. quan and shang used their magic to tranfers their souls in to other bodys(raiden blast), but they are still too weak to be in real threat. Scorpion will become the main VILLIAN because he finds his clan's magical amulet(makes him more powerful) to resurrect his clan as spectra's. he starts killing eveyone who gets in his way(quan chi). then he starts wanting to rule over realms, tired of being a servant. seeing this, raiden gets sub zero clan to match up and help stop the evil chaos with scorpion berfore he targets earth.

2.Cgi endings or a Full cgi movie that explains everything.
3.Konquest mode-i really dont like how they did konquest so......
a.God of war and devil may cry ripoff. lol with mk story and characters.
b.Only for main two characters(hero,villian). because thats alot of work for a side game.
3.Overall theme will be serious dark bloody asian fantasy

5.Other modes/Mini Games

1.Test your might-mk
2.Endurance-mkt
3.Tag Team-tekken
4.Online Mode
a.setup like sf4 and smooth like blazblue.plus i like how tk 6 automatically finds you a challenger.
b. have a virtua world like HOME for ps3, with arcades. you could play classic games online or meet other mk fans.
c.have tournaments,have leader boards....etc
5.Time attack
6.Arcade-player vs player,cpu(difficulty-normal,hard,very hard,extreme hard)
7.Practice mode-have cpu stand or fight back
a.record and make up your own combos in practice mode.
8.Krpyt store-to buy items for outfits,unlock fighters.
9.Dramactic mode-sfa3
Avatar
Icebaby
02/23/2010 05:30 AM (UTC)
0
I don't think cramming every single thing into one MK game would make it perfect.
Avatar
BIG_SYKE19
02/23/2010 02:01 PM (UTC)
0
i know thats why its my OPINION and not yours. and alot of the stuff i will do will be done in a series of games like mkda-mka. im not puting all this in one game. but by the time its finish it will be a MY DREAM game. you dont have to agree with me. you can write your own ideas of how mk should be just like i did mine. now if you have aquestion about something i wrote, i will explain it. PEACE!!

QUALITY over QUANTITY!!!!
Avatar
Tekunin_General
Avatar
About Me


Twitter~Facebook~Youtube~~~~~PSN: Casselman/LockUpYourBones
02/23/2010 03:35 PM (UTC)
0
Almosty any fan of MK up to this point has to love it for the characters and story, not the gameplay.

I would welcome something new to the ladder concept if it were possible. Maybe KIND OF resembling soul blades weapon master mode. Not in that sense, but the sense of..

MK9 is going to have a story and a crisis. Maybe give the player a sort of "free roam". well not free roam, but movement like soulblades blademaster where theres a current crisis but you can go different paths on the "realm map". therefore encountering different enemies and cutscenes. Learning more about the history and presence of the character. Eventually ending up at the "boss" or destination through persistance.

It would allow for good storytelling and present a challange for each and every chracter, and characters story modes would intertwine and force a dedicated player to play through every campeign to really understand the ambitions of the opposing forces that he/she meets along the way. thus making 100% completion very difficult yet addicting.

Im not saying "hey lets turn this into budokai tenkaichi free roam". But the idea of cause and effect in a choice-oriented admosphere, to me, would rival the certain Arcade Ladder we will no doubtedly see.

I would welcome a story mode, but I want choice and the rule of cause and effect. FMV endings not deciding canon until mk10.

technically, there would be approx 24 stories depending on characters instead of one story in konquest mode.


thoughts?


-Casselman
Avatar
LycaniLLusion
02/23/2010 03:40 PM (UTC)
0
Icebaby Wrote:
I don't think cramming every single thing into one MK game would make it perfect.


i agree with icey here...i would not take everything. i would just take the major mechanics,aspects of fun,maybe a few gimmicks and modes from previous titles. "major" being the key word here meaning that it changes the game experience to an extent that it sticks out...examples = the run feature,2.5D game play or even create a character. i use those as examples because they reflect some of the changes made in the series...and they were a step towards development. Run made faster game play. 2.5D game play in a 3D environment was a "side-step" in the direction to make fans happier with 3D gaming because many like and are use to the old games. create a character i speak of because this solves a few issues with missing fan favorites if executed the right way...plus it gives MK a creative edge that its old rival SF has never tried to do.
MK evolves so you can not just take everything from the past but some of it is ok...just polish it up to next gen standards and there ya go. as for your list of suggestions to other fighting game references that is cheap...i don't want to sound like i am attacking your ideas about making it similar to other games you love but we don't want MK to be a rip off game. i say look at your current list and than take off the ideas from other games outside of the franchise and than afterwords eliminate a few features that are worth twisting into something new and fresh.
i will edit in a version of your list summarized to my liking to show you what i mean...sorry for the long post and hope ya don't mind me stating my opinions/ideas on top of yours.
This is what I edited of your list and my list would not be far from it so i will not post my own but i will use the + symbol to add my own ideas/thoughts/elaborations.
all the new ideas are just maybe ideas...i would not make them concrete but some of them would be real nice to have imo.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gameplay-2.5d

1.speed-like mkt
2.+new stuff not seen before...maybe a desperation counter from fatalities,specific stage hara kiris,timer control in options for time you have to execute fatalities or a new "ality" for each character....i was also thinking about being able to use your own music tracks for fighting.
3.+ bring back Mercy
4.
5.run feature/button
6.
7.
8.
9.uppercuts,roundhouse,trip/sweeps-mk
10.lots of blood splatter-mkt
11.crazy bloodly fatalities-mk
12.special moves- mk
13.
14.juggles-mkt
15.parry combo breaker-MKA
16.
17.multi tiered stages-mkt
18.pro moves-mkvsdc
19.
20.
21.
22.
23.
24.
25.

Graphics

1.+ 3D-like MK vs DC/MKA
2.dark gritty atmosphere on its own level
3.realistic/fantasy in general
4.you said crazy blood...i won't ask you to elaborate on this because i think a blood meter for the levels of blood spill in options works wonders for this

Fighters and related to them...

1.
2.
3.
4.more girls,diff races,non humans
5.REGULAR, strong and powerful boss's...+you used a king kong reference here but i liked the sense of fighting beasts like Motaro because its fantasy and it adds unique sense of being overwhelmed
6.customize fighter-+i was going to remove this but did not and thought i would just elaborate on it to say that they could just do the the create a character over or revamp it to make it better rather than just customizing original characters...which is not a bad idea but it should be limited
7.fatality-each fighter has 3, one classic, two new + i think each character should have 4 or 5 alities...2 regular/classic,one stage configuration or hot spot in arenas,one new fatality and bring back Brutality combos remastered/revamped
8.unlockable fighters
9.fighters will have their own stages and musical theme(mk style,epic,scary) +only some fighters should have there own arenas/stages...perhaps just the icons or fan favorites
10.5-6 special moves for everyone +or more
11.fighters will have a brutality + remastered/revamped would be nice like stated above
12.
13.
14.
15.

STORY-

1.+just go from where MK:A left off and let go of your quarrels lol

2.Cgi endings...+to elaborate on your CGI movie idea,i would consider it but that is a lot of content so it could be DLC or even its own disc but other than that we should just leave it at endings and/or cut scenes.
3.

4.

Other modes/Mini Games

1.Test your might-mk
2.Endurance-mkt
3.
4.Online Mode + all modes playable offline/locally should be playable online too...except the obvious like practice mode
a.+ youtube uploading,screen capturing to save as images for wallpapers and photo sharing,official game site with profile links and player stats
b. have a virtual world in HOME for ps3, with arcades. you could play classic games online or meet other mk fans. + i was going to remove this but i am a Sony fan boy kinda so implementing it into PS Home with them similar options could be pretty sweet
c.have tournaments,have leader boards....etc
5.
6.Arcade-player vs player,cpu(difficulty-very easy,easy,normal,hard,very hard,extreme hard)
7.Practice mode
.
8.Krpyt store-to buy items for outfits,unlock fighters. + i think the krypt should only unlock extras like photos,videos,art and of that sort and yes maybe throw in a character or two and outfits but thats it. there should be other ways than just buying characters to unlock them like...beating the game with certain characters/all characters/unlocked characters or hidden ones,secret codes/menus,beating a difficulty,maybe bring back versus screen codes and don't forget about premium DLC content is more than likely possible
9.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Avatar
Icebaby
02/23/2010 03:48 PM (UTC)
0
BIG_SYKE19 Wrote:
i know thats why its my OPINION and not yours. and alot of the stuff i will do will be done in a series of games like mkda-mka. im not puting all this in one game. but by the time its finish it will be a MY DREAM game. you dont have to agree with me. you can write your own ideas of how mk should be just like i did mine. now if you have aquestion about something i wrote, i will explain it. PEACE!!

QUALITY over QUANTITY!!!!


No duh it's your opinions, I'd figured that out right when I looked who made this thread...

I'm just saying, cramming everything into one single game, despite it's a "dream game," would lose focus on the main attraction which is the fighting. Because it would, there's too many things going around that just loses the main focus of Mortal Kombat.

And I'm not trying to purposely start some silly fight with you, because god knows why, I'm just saying, cramming every bit of detail in one game would not be so perfect... That, and you and "mortalkombatkombatmortal" seriously have too many similar thoughts about the "perfect game."
Avatar
BIG_SYKE19
02/24/2010 02:06 AM (UTC)
0
i am not cramming everyting in one game. it will be a progression like mkda-mka.

i do not want mk to be like street fighter. but they do have good fighting systems that are STANDARD FOR good fighting games now.

the only thing that might seem crammed is konquest mode and the cgi movie. the rest are fighting mechanics or modes that are very important to fighting games. and konquest could be its own game anyways, so it would not hurt to take it out.

fighting games get boring real quick, so my idea was to add extra for replay value, or keep the game going, but nothing tooo gimmicky or stupid.

icybaby you are scared that the game will come out like mka. lol 50+ fighters but they sucked.

thats why i said QUALITY over QUANTITY. the production of this game would not be rushed if i was over it.

Avatar
Icebaby
02/24/2010 03:42 AM (UTC)
0
BIG_SYKE19 Wrote:
i am not cramming everyting in one game. it will be a progression like mkda-mka.

i do not want mk to be like street fighter. but they do have good fighting systems that are STANDARD FOR good fighting games now.

the only thing that might seem crammed is konquest mode and the cgi movie. the rest are fighting mechanics or modes that are very important to fighting games. and konquest could be its own game anyways, so it would not hurt to take it out.

fighting games get boring real quick, so my idea was to add extra for replay value, or keep the game going, but nothing tooo gimmicky or stupid.

icybaby you are scared that the game will come out like mka. lol 50+ fighters but they sucked.

thats why i said QUALITY over QUANTITY. the production of this game would not be rushed if i was over it.



I am scared of a game? Please, there's a few things I'm scared of and those are spiders, being alone in a big echoed place, and tv monitors that magically turn on without anyone doing the turn on...

Remember the sentence that you said fighting games get boring real quick... your favorite 2d games were technically fighting only... And yes, your features, tag team, online play, konquest, endurance... that's cramming, loses main focus of what MK is really about. And yes, despite this is your opinion, your "game," you still posted your idea on a discussion thread, therefore expect rejections.
Avatar
Baraka407
Avatar
About Me

<img src=http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb424/astro407/Baraka407---Baraka-Sig---GIF1.gif?t=1302751589

02/24/2010 04:13 PM (UTC)
0
Alright, I'll take your style on this and we'll see how it ends up looking.

1.speed-like MK:DA
2.Ground combos like DOA 3
3.limited air combos- like MK:A, only no suspension of gravity for so long
4.parries- like Tekken
5.run without button-tekken
6.combo throws where appropriate - like Tekken and DOA
7.button map out- like old MK HP, LP, HK, LK
8.NO BLOCKING. Only parry, counter or escape/dodge
9.uppercuts,roundhouse,sweep-mk
10.realitic blood splatter
11.realistic fatalities-mk1
12.special moves- mk
13.cancel moves-sf4
14.juggle combos-mk2
15.combo breaker-Killer Instinct
16.counter button-DOA3 and 4
17.multi tiered stages-mk3
18.Escape button for both throws and dodging in combos
19.wake up-roll,attack-sf4
20.air parry/no air block
21.No infinite combos whatsoever
22.side step
23.upper body movement- Virtua Fighter's Brad Burns
24.Last combo in entire match can lead in to Brutality/Ultra Combo: KI
25.Realistic and unique fighting styles- Tekken and Virtua Fighter

Graphics

1. high end 3D - Soul Calibur 4
2.asian "mysterious island" atomsphere- Think MK1 or Enter the Dragon
3.realistic/fantasy-like mgs4 and god of war
4.realistic looking blood-like gears of war, but not gallons of it from one hit
5.Character select screen art style like MK:DA

Fighters

1. An almost entirely new roster with only a few, VERY altered returnees
2.no copy cats, no palette swaps
3.make them cool like mk1, 2 or DA new fighters, not mk3, they sucked!!!
4.I could see vampires, but no other races, no more centaurs etc.
5.REGULAR strong and powerful boss, no king kong this time!!!
6.customize fighter-like tk6(no corny items like hamburger hats)
7.fatality-each fighter has 2, one classic, one new
8.unlockable fighters and two super unlockable fighters
9.fighters will have their own stages and musical theme that fit in to the overall context of the game (mk style,epic)
10.8-9 special moves for everyone
11.fighters will have a brutality/ultra combo
12.each character will have own unique fighting style
13.Signature combo-a small double move (like a punch punch, but you only have to press one button) to bridge a small combo in to a medium sized combo.
14.stage fatalitys- for some fighters satges
15.balance/tiers-same intake and ouput damage(levels). everyone will have well rounded arsenal of specials,defense, combos to deal with any foe.

STORY-(yeah im talking about the story.)

1.alright i want the story to expand from Armageddon in terms of overall plot. This is the aftermath of what happened. I want to see Scorpion, who defeated Blaze, become the Champion of the Gods. His soul will have been restored and he'll once more be Hiroshi Hanzo, the leader of the Shinrai Ryu clan.

Shao kahn would be trying regain power, but he would be severly reduced from his previous form. No longer muscles on top of muscles. He'd wear a black cloak and his face would be scarred, no skull mask or sledge hammer.

Fujin will be the protector of Earth and Shang Tsung will be the chosen one. Rayden will be sub boss and the leader of the Elder Gods, the High Elder, will be the main boss.

Sub zero will be murdered in the opening sequence, which will touch off a new war between the Lin Kuei and the Shinrai Ryu. Scorpion is framed for Sub Zero's murder. New Sub Zero will be named and this Lin Kuei warrior will be introduced to seek vengence.

So yeah, new Sub Zero, Hanzo, Fujin, Shang Tsung, Shao Khan. Wow, that's more returning that I thought I'd want! Oh yeah, Final boss would NOT be playable.

2.Cgi endings or a Full cgi movie that explains everything.
3.Konquest mode- Have a large, dark, ramshackle city that's just outside of the area where all of the fighting arenas are located. Here, you could talk with people to learn more about other characters, how to find hidden characters, the history of the tournament, where to find money or treasures etc. But you can also buy things like clothes, special moves etc for kreate a kharacter and also access all of the modes of the game like tag team mode, practice, survival, tournament, story etc. You could either do it with one button press or you can go to any of these places manually by walking/running around.
3.Overall theme will be serious, relatively dark bloody asian fantasy

5.Other modes/Mini Games

1.Test your might-mk1
2.Endurance-mk1
3.Tag Team-tekken
4.Online Mode
a.setup like sf4 and smooth like blazblue.plus i like how tk 6 automatically finds you a challenger.
b. have a small, old looking arcade in the city where you can play MK1 and MK2, maybe even have the hidden characters as playable in those games along with the bosses.
c.have tournaments,have leader boards....etc
5.Time attack
6.Arcade-player vs player,cpu(difficulty-normal,hard,very hard,extreme hard)
7.Practice mode-have cpu stand or fight back
a.Kreate a kharackter mode with thousands of special moves, styles, clothing options etc.
8.Krpyt: A small place like a dark gratto where you go to unlock 10 very special items, done so in a variety of ways.
9. Precise move/combo demonstrations for when to press things to do stuff in practice. - Soul Calibur
10. Tournament mode - UMK3
11. Survival Mode - Every freakin fighting game that's not MK or SF
12. Museum - A place where you can go and for VERY LITTLE kurrency, you can unlock promo images, concept art, and a ton of stuff that didn't make it in to the game like characters etc.
13. Free for All: 8 people pick a character, winner stays.
14. Wagering: You can wager kurrency and/or items in online matches
Avatar
TemperaryUserName
Avatar
About Me
New sig on the way
02/24/2010 05:55 PM (UTC)
0
I think the perfect Mortal Kombat game would be ninja Smoke fighting nazis.

In space.
Avatar
Icebaby
02/24/2010 05:58 PM (UTC)
0
TemperaryUserName Wrote:
I think the perfect Mortal Kombat game would be ninja Smoke fighting nazis.

In space.


Agreed.
Avatar
TemperaryUserName
Avatar
About Me
New sig on the way
02/24/2010 06:00 PM (UTC)
0
Icebaby Wrote:
TemperaryUserName Wrote:
I think the perfect Mortal Kombat game would be ninja Smoke fighting nazis.

In space.


Agreed.

That's two votes. Come on Boon, start working your magic.
Avatar
Tekunin_General
Avatar
About Me


Twitter~Facebook~Youtube~~~~~PSN: Casselman/LockUpYourBones
02/24/2010 06:04 PM (UTC)
0
hahaha dont jinx it! Remeber Dino Crisis 3...
Avatar
Baraka407
Avatar
About Me

<img src=http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb424/astro407/Baraka407---Baraka-Sig---GIF1.gif?t=1302751589

02/24/2010 06:23 PM (UTC)
0
TemperaryUserName Wrote:
I think the perfect Mortal Kombat game would be ninja Smoke fighting nazis.

In space.


Whoa.

I'm in.
Avatar
XiahouDun84
02/24/2010 06:43 PM (UTC)
0
TemperaryUserName Wrote:
I think the perfect Mortal Kombat game would be ninja Smoke fighting nazis.

In space.

Sold.
Avatar
BIG_SYKE19
02/24/2010 08:26 PM (UTC)
0
adding tag team and endurance is NOT CRAMMING. its STANDARD for fighters to have little sides modes like that. if you play fighters you will see those modes frequently.


losing focus or cramming would be konquest,story driven too much,over the top violence with no good gameplay,mk kart,mk chess, loads of fighters,gimmicks etc....

go look on every fighting game and you will see modes similar to tag team, survival, time attack etc. ITS STANDARD. NOT CRAMMING.

and where is your dream list icebay.??because it looks like you are just on here to argue WITH MY OPINIONS. you act like im FORCING 2d DOWN peoples mouth. its my opinion and i am not trying to force it on anybody, so you have no reason to argue with me. if you dont understand something i wrote, i will try to explain it.

thats why i make opinionated threads because everybody should be able to voice their opinion without being threaten or called stupid.

after all a opinion is not right or wrong. now if i was making you guys like 2d or any of my ideas then, you could have an argument with me. but im clearly not.

if you dont like mine, WRITE YOUR OWN.






Avatar
Icebaby
02/24/2010 08:47 PM (UTC)
0
BIG_SYKE19 Wrote:
adding tag team and endurance is NOT CRAMMING. its STANDARD for fighters to have little sides modes like that. if you play fighters you will see those modes frequently.


Side modes are fine, but having too many of them is considered cramming.

And if I play fighters? Yeah, I do so, kid, I know what side modes are.


BIG_SYKE19 Wrote:
losing focus or cramming would be konquest,story driven too much,over the top violence with no good gameplay,mk kart,mk chess, loads of fighters,gimmicks etc....


So side modes, again.

BIG_SYKE19 Wrote:
go look on every fighting game and you will see modes similar to tag team, survival, time attack etc. ITS STANDARD. NOT CRAMMING.


When there's like one or two side mode then it's considered fine, but when you have all of them stored in one game it's considered cramming... Broken record, gotta fix that.

BIG_SYKE19 Wrote:
and where is your dream list icebay.??because it looks like you are just on here to argue WITH MY OPINIONS. you act like im FORCING 2d DOWN peoples mouth. its my opinion and i am not trying to force it on anybody, so you have no reason to argue with me. if you dont understand something i wrote, i will try to explain it.


I would make one thread about my dream MK game, but here's the thing, that would be getting closed. Why? Because then more and more users will be creating their own "Dream Game" thread, making the mods close every one of those and either enforce someone to make one specific thread about making the perfect game, or have no one do so. That is why I'm not going to voice my reasons on how MK should be perfect.

I am not arguing with your opinions. I am disagreeing with them, there is a big difference between arguing and disagreeing. And it's not only me who has been disagreeing with your opinions. Expect people to give you feedback, kid, otherwise why make the damn thread in the first place.

And you do make it sound like you're trying to enforce 2d down people's throats because you're doing so in another thread. You're saying that you have the facts that 2d is better than 3d, and Baraka perfectly explained how you're wrong. Mortal Kombat is not and will not go back to 2d because they're all about improving the game and making it more advance. Just because you don't like the fact that the game won't go back to 2d doesn't mean every thread should see you whining about how the game needs to go back to that concept.

And once again, I am not arguing, I am disagreeing, two different things. Expect people to disagree on your opinions, it's a discussion board, you should get use to this by now.


BIG_SYKE19 Wrote:
thats why i make opinionated threads because everybody should be able to voice their opinion without being threaten or called stupid.


I see no one making threats or making fun of your intelligence, so there's no need to say that when no one's making anyone look stupid or threatening people.

BIG_SYKE19 Wrote:
after all a opinion is not right or wrong. now if i was making you guys like 2d or any of my ideas then, you could have an argument with me. but im clearly not.


If an opinion is an opinion, then why did you get overworked when I said that Liu Kang was not an icon? That was my opinion which I am entitled to, but you slapped me across the face with a huge argument defending the case that Kang was an icon... Of course, you're entitled to your opinion, but I continued to defend my case with why I believed that Kang was not an icon, you though, didn't enjoy that, so you started rambling incoherently about how Kang is one, and not just dropping it and moving on. Like you're doing here, you could have just ignored my statement altogether but you're not. You're just going to continue to go after me despite that I am disagreeing with you, until I either stop, you stop, or someone finally agrees with something.

But, here's the thing with that 2d thing... you've been mentioning it almost everywhere you go, therefore people will start arguing and don't say you don't say it everywhere, yes you do. There's clearly another thread with you saying about 2d this and 2d that... It feels like you are trying to make it sound like you want someone to disagree or argue with you about that concept... You don't get it.


BIG_SYKE19 Wrote:
if you dont like mine, WRITE YOUR OWN.


Then watch majority of those threads get closed because there's one open that talks about the perfect game, so they can't make their own "perfect game," thread otherwise it'll get closed.

Avatar
Baraka407
Avatar
About Me

<img src=http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb424/astro407/Baraka407---Baraka-Sig---GIF1.gif?t=1302751589

02/24/2010 09:06 PM (UTC)
0
Icebaby, I think that he just meant to put your own ideas for the perfect MK game in this thread. You obviously don't need to start a new thread to do that, right?

Plus, I'm kinda curious to see what other people would want in their "perfect" MK game. I just cut and pasted his list and changed about 90% of it to my liking. That's just me though... I'm assuming you'd probably change about 90% of what I have, which is obviously cool.

I honestly didn't think that this was a bad thread topic until the same stupid 2D/3D argument came back because some people can't seem to get let go of the year 1995.

Oh well, as we've all stated ad nauseum, each person's entiled... own opinion, blah blah blah smile

Except to say that MK is a 3D fighting game and has been for 10+ years now and they're not going backwards... Ha!
Avatar
BIG_SYKE19
02/24/2010 10:19 PM (UTC)
0
some people cant let go of year 1995????

i think you can say that about lot of people buddy. tell me one thing that you dont like from the past more than present. everbody has something they like from the past. but thats not the argument.

the main reason i want mk to go back to 2d is because the gameplay sucks in 3d TO ME. im not stuck in the past. a 3d mk just does not feel right. compare mk 2d era to the mk 3d era. 2d OWNS HANDS DOWN. i dont get why you guys cant get that.mk1-mk3 has better fighters and gameplay, mk4-mka had more complex stories amd more realistic movment.

mk wants to advance???? ummm no. they just want to make cheap gimmicky version of real 3d fighter that are selling good buddy. and why wont they advance the gamplay but they "advance" the movement?? mkvs dc is not up to 3d fighting game standards. mk did sf2 the same way in the 2d era. but sf is still popular, while mk is not popular as it was.

and ed might go to 2.5 because sf4 outsold tekken. and ed boon posted on his twitter"i thought tekken 6 would sell better than that....." meaning he thinks a lot highly of tekken 6. so he could start thinking that 3d fighters really dont matter and copy sf again. ed goes where ever he thinks the money is. most people do, just make a quality game man.

and sf4 HAS BROUGHT FIGHTING GAMES BACK ALIVE. in the gaming community.

but yeah i just want people to post theri "perfect game"
Avatar
Skaven13
02/24/2010 10:29 PM (UTC)
0
Here is my perfect MK:

1. Balanced gameplay that is continually updated and fixed online with patches.
2. Hidden characters that were fight-only ala MK2. Some of them appearing in the background. I really do miss that aspect. If we had more of those, I think that would add more of a sense of mystery to MK. A lot of people don't want new characters, but having them fight-only hidden characters could be a neat way to introduce characters. That's how Reptile, Jade, Noob, and Smoke were introduced afterall. And if people like them, perhaps they can become downloadable as playable.
3. Faster, frantic gameplay from past 2D titles.
4. A Konquest mode like MKD which was open to explore (forget the linear, very limited MKA one). Finding hidden things in the fighting portion of a game AND a Konquest mode would be wonderful.
5. Weird stuff. A lot of people don't like things like Babalities, but they were strange enough (and didn't interfere with story/core gameplay) to make people go "huh.....?". Plus, to pull it off, it basically showed that you gave yourself a sort of handicap. Finishers something like these need to come back.
6. Hari Karis. With fatalities, the game is pretty much over when you lose the match. With Hari Karis, the match is still on to see who can off you first, your opponent, or yourself.
7. Background fatalities that require special commands to put in.

That's all for now.
Avatar
Icebaby
02/24/2010 10:42 PM (UTC)
0
You want my dream MK game, here you go:

1: Balanced game play. I enjoyed MK4’s system as well as DA/Deception’s.
2: One mini-game and that is Test Your Might, and it came like MK1 in the arcade mode
3: 2-3 Fatalities per character, no other alities or hara-kiri should be included
4: 15 character roaster, having more than at least 15 over powers the roaster
5: Reasonable stage fatalities scratch death traps they make the fight less fun
6: No weapons, but should be included on how they had in UMK3 with certain characters
7: No Konquest or Krypt
8: Hidden characters should be how they were in the past, perform certain moves to fight them
9: Alternate costumes should be with the characters, they should not be unlocked
10: I don’t care what kind of ending it is, as long as I get a decent ending for once
11: There should be a valuable story to follow along, otherwise, it’s just useless fighting
12: And don’t forget... TOASTY!!!

You wanted my opinionated dream game, here you go.

Avatar
Baraka407
Avatar
About Me

<img src=http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb424/astro407/Baraka407---Baraka-Sig---GIF1.gif?t=1302751589

02/24/2010 11:11 PM (UTC)
0
BIG_SYKE19 Wrote:
some people cant let go of year 1995????

i think you can say that about lot of people buddy. tell me one thing that you dont like from the past more than present. everbody has something they like from the past. but thats not the argument.

the main reason i want mk to go back to 2d is because the gameplay sucks in 3d TO ME. im not stuck in the past. a 3d mk just does not feel right. compare mk 2d era to the mk 3d era. 2d OWNS HANDS DOWN. i dont get why you guys cant get that.mk1-mk3 has better fighters and gameplay, mk4-mka had more complex stories amd more realistic movment.

mk wants to advance???? ummm no. they just want to make cheap gimmicky version of real 3d fighter that are selling good buddy. and why wont they advance the gamplay but they "advance" the movement?? mkvs dc is not up to 3d fighting game standards. mk did sf2 the same way in the 2d era. but sf is still popular, while mk is not popular as it was.

and ed might go to 2.5 because sf4 outsold tekken. and ed boon posted on his twitter"i thought tekken 6 would sell better than that....." meaning he thinks a lot highly of tekken 6. so he could start thinking that 3d fighters really dont matter and copy sf again. ed goes where ever he thinks the money is. most people do, just make a quality game man.

and sf4 HAS BROUGHT FIGHTING GAMES BACK ALIVE. in the gaming community.

but yeah i just want people to post theri "perfect game"


Alright man, not to keep baiting you in to an argument, because really, all we're doing here is having an aside discussion in what is otherwise a good thread, but you act like you're backing up your opinion with facts and all you're doing is backing up your opinion by either repeating yourself or simply stating opinions.

Let's take it from the top:

Everyone likes the past more than the present? Is that the idea I'm getting from you? What in God's name are you basing that off of? Okay, the music was better in 95 than it is now. So? That doesn't mean that MK9, a game made in 2010, should be anything at all like a game who's graphics and gameplay were popular in 1995.

I get that MK in 3D sucks, to you. MK 2D owns MK 3D, to you. MK vs DC is not up to modern fighting game standards... Again, to you. I think that MK in 3D is fun. I think that while I liked the old 2D MK games (minus MK3, which I still think blows in comparison to MK1 and MK2) more back then than I like the 3D MK games now, that doesn't mean that I think MK should go back to being what was cool 15 years ago.

I still think that MK has potential as a 3D fighting game. I think that there was a lot that the MK team did well in MK vs DC. I thought the combo system was alot better than the 3 previous games, I liked the large amount of special moves, and I thought that the graphics were pretty solid, if not fantastic.

So for me, that's three things that we clearly disagree on, which is fine.

But then you bring up Tekken.

C'mon buddy, you think that Tekken 6 didn't sell well because it's 3D? It failed to sell well for 2 reasons which, ironically enough are 2 things that you WANT for MK.

1) It's kept the same old cast of characters. Yawn. Oh look, it's Jin Kazama for like the 8th time, doing the same moves he always does.

2) Tekken's gameplay has basically come full circle back to Tekken 3. They simply don't experiment anymore, so the gameplay has become stale.

So you want a game that has old MK characters and stale gameplay? Congratulations, you want to make MK like the Namco wanted to make Tekken 6. I'm we'll see a tweet afterwards where Ed Boon says "wow, I thought that MK9 would sell alot better than that..."

Oh, and to reply to your other smaller statements: No, Ed Boon will not base his next fighting game on which sells better, SF4 or Tekken. That logic is just flat out backwards.

Also, MK does want to advance. Say what you will about the various iterations of MK, but unlike Tekken and Street Figther, which have only stuck with what works (sorry, but putting a coat of pseudo 3D paint on the same old characters does NOT make SF4 new again), MK went 3D, they consistently add 6 to 8 new characters per game (and that started with MK2), and they added fighting styles, weapons, minigames both in and out of fighting, death traps, air combos, etc etc etc.

You might not like alot of this stuff, but I still give the MK team a helluva lot of credit for trying. Sorry man, but if you keep advocating for MK to return to what worked 15 years ago, you'll inevitably end up with a stale product. Street Fighter is getting by on good gameplay and nostalgia. MK gets by (really, the games sell just fine) on reinventing itself, bringing new ideas out in the genre and trying to refine their decent, albeit not fantastic gameplay.

If you want MK to be Street Fighter so badly, I'm sure there's a SF forum to complain in. Me? I'm just happy that MK is what it is.
Avatar
BIG_SYKE19
02/24/2010 11:55 PM (UTC)
0
mk sucks to the hardcore fighting game fan. just go ask them if you dont believe me.

and everybody copied st2 because it made alot of money. even vf copied, but they made a 3d game instead. sega wanted something to compete with it, thus the creation of vf and other 2d and 3d games. SF OWNS.

now mk is a GREAT alternative to sf anime book style, deep technical style, and non blood type of gameplay.

but only in 2d. because the game was faster man. in 2d you can get away with gimmicky gameplay. 3d is meant to be realistic, thats why none of them have special moves. they are trying emulate real life. mk never tried to copy real life in GAMEPLAY.

imagine if super smash bros went 3d??? it would SUCK THE FUN out of it. thats all im saying, MK IS NOT AS FUN AS IT USED TO BE. so im trying to make it for casual gamers and pro gamers.

i know mk should not be DIRECT COPY OF SF. but i like how casual fans and pro fans can enjoy the sf games.

and the nostagic stuff is all one big opinion, where is the proof???

my music examples are facts.

and sf2 is a classic legendary 2d game, so stop with the nostalgic stuff.

just admit that SOME things were better back then. some were not. like 80's hairstyles and clothes. im not a stuck in the past freak. im equal and i tell the truth.

another example: look at star wars movies. old one was good with limited technology, new ones had better technology, but not as good. not just my opinion. just ask an average star wars fan.
Avatar
BIG_SYKE19
02/25/2010 03:27 AM (UTC)
0
tk6 did not sale well because it's its the same ole 3d. its not exciting anymore. they changed a few things but not that much. keep making excuses, just admit 2d is classic and can sell just as well or better than 3d. you guys think 3d is so much advanced but its really not.

and tekken is not failing because same ole fighters. they update them every game. plus they added like 7 new fighters, if you had not got tkdr.

just give next gen 2d a chance. we gave that 3d junk a chance(5 times). i remember when i bought mkd. and i played it and it was stiff garbage.

sf4 proved that a 2d fighter could translate to next gen gaming well without having to go 3d. yes that is a fact.


and mk does not just suck to me, go out and ask fighting game fans.they will tell you that it sucks in 3d. and all that time sf had been off, mk could have stole the spotlight, but nope they were to busy making sorry 3d games.
Avatar
LycaniLLusion
02/25/2010 07:31 PM (UTC)
0
BIG_SYKE19 Wrote:
tk6 did not sale well because it's its the same ole 3d. its not exciting anymore. they changed a few things but not that much. keep making excuses, just admit 2d is classic and can sell just as well or better than 3d. you guys think 3d is so much advanced but its really not.

and tekken is not failing because same ole fighters. they update them every game. plus they added like 7 new fighters, if you had not got tkdr.

just give next gen 2d a chance. we gave that 3d junk a chance(5 times). i remember when i bought mkd. and i played it and it was stiff garbage.

sf4 proved that a 2d fighter could translate to next gen gaming well without having to go 3d. yes that is a fact.





and mk does not just suck to me, go out and ask fighting game fans.they will tell you that it sucks in 3d. and all that time sf had been off, mk could have stole the spotlight, but nope they were to busy making sorry 3d games.


see the big difference why 3d is better for MK than 2d is the fact that MK is realistic fantasy and what your comparing it to (like SF4 for example) is cartoon fantasy...both very different in appearance and movement in many aspects. it is obvious you are a die hard 2d fighter and you will die fighting like a drunken irish indian over it because if it ever happens it will probably be fan made or a non profit clone. get use to it man...its a new era. maybe if you are lucky you will get a remix of trilogy or something as DLC...who knows but i would not go farther than that with it really. all i can say is stop being hostile and quit bickering over spilled milk because Ed boon isn't going to clean it up for you. you have made your points and i think its safe to assume you can stop whining now lol....weeee ooooo weeeee oooooo....did someone call a whahhhmbulance. sorry sarcasm...but yeah dude i like the 2d system too but i like 3d just as much. what they need to do is keep sticking to 3d to evolve it to become as good as 2d was...it is not an easy task to make such a dramatic change all at once. hell look at games like WWF Attitude and compare it to the new WWE game. it took thq like what 8 or so games to be what it is now. all i am saying is...relax,throw some water on your face and than go pull out the old consoles and than you will have your 2d nostalgia.
Pages: 4
Discord
Twitch
Twitter
YouTube
Facebook
Privacy Policy
© 1998-2024 Shadow Knight Media, LLC. All rights reserved. Mortal Kombat, the dragon logo and all character names are trademarks and copyright of Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.