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thisiscourage
10/15/2014 04:04 PM (UTC)
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Ideally i would like to see very little to no sexualization. So far (out of the revealed character's) it looks like I will get my way. The woman are appropriately glad and the men are not the ass end of joke either.

I want both gender's to be badass looking. Not strippers. go watch some porn if your horny.
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10/15/2014 04:29 PM (UTC)
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D'Vorah, Ferra, and Cassie don't really seem like sexualized characters, maybe NRS are just going in a different direction this time.

maybe.
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thisiscourage
10/15/2014 04:37 PM (UTC)
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raidenthefridge Wrote:
maybe.


hopefully.
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MacyG88
10/15/2014 05:02 PM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
Two thongs don't make a right.
How about no objectification at all? If you want to jerk off to males in loincloths, you can use the Internet.
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10/15/2014 05:27 PM (UTC)
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ErmackDaddy Wrote:
Your opinion is stupid. Just thought you should know.


Okay. confused

OP basically said that there should be a male character with a thong and have his dick flop around to appeal to females and homosexual guys.

Why?

"B-B-Because straight men get to see bouncing boobs".

Fuck you. No one asked for that. Even straight men complained about Sonya's ridiculous primary outfit in MK9. No. This is forcing an asinine idea, into a game that's trying to be serious at that. Just as stupid of an idea as purposely making a character "black" for the sake of diversity in one of the other threads not too long ago. Thong Man shouldn't be a forced character for such a reason.

Want to have a man in a thong? Okay. Fine. Whatever.
Then the MK Team would have to make a Voldo wannabe character because there's no other way to do it without pissing people off. And no one can classify Voldo as a gay, just...a very strange, weird man. And even then, his characteristics is just laughable. Perfect character development.

But that floppy dick idea is idiotic.
Floppy Thong Dick McGee will taint the serious route that Mortal Kombat is going for. If he's a fighter doing some serious combat moves but with his thong dick flopping about, you are killing the vibe here.

"Okay, he has a good moveset, but what the fuck is with his dick flopping? Why?"
What will be the point behind this idea in-game wise?
How would this fit the character persona?
There's no other info about this character. He's just basically there for the cock lovers.
No no.

The females breast didn't jiggle in the previous MK games just for them to be an existing character. Even Mileena's bandage attire in MK9 had reason because it was her attire during her creation process. This "character" will be there just to be there. But in reality, we know why, because of topics like this. Meanwhile this "character" is there, and then there's future installments.
He will be the Dan of Mortal Kombat.
And because of that, some women and the homosexual men will be the minority versus the thousands of women with a sense of humor and straight men that will see him nothing more than a god damn joke character to troll people with.

Some how, it will probably hurt the minorities feelings regardless of them getting their cock wish, with them crying "pls make him sirius in MKXI dis time so no 1 laffs ok?".....But they were serious. This is how the MK Team roll.
Or was Rain not a good enough example for you?
"We" laughed at his "heeeyy" intro.
Now imagine if he had a thong and a dick flopping unreal engine feature.
He will be a fucking joke, more than he his now.
A big gay joke.
And the last thing I want is a good character to have such a label.

But please, feel free to keep shit posting, "ErmackDaddy". You could have at least explained yourself.
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Darkhound74
10/15/2014 05:42 PM (UTC)
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thisiscourage Wrote:
raidenthefridge Wrote:
maybe.


hopefully.


Ed Boon did say they went a little too far in MK9, and they plan on dialing it back for MKX.
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SwingBatta
10/15/2014 06:51 PM (UTC)
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As much as I despised Skarlet's lazy design in MK9, it also made a senseless sense since she absorbs people's blood through her skin. She couldn't exactly do that wearing an overcoat, I suppose.
Kitana's MK9 alt, however, was just a flat-out abomination.
Darkhound74 Wrote:
Ed Boon did say they went a little too far in MK9, and they plan on dialing it back for MKX.

Exhibit A: Cassie Cage.
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wdm6789
10/15/2014 07:04 PM (UTC)
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This again? Really?

Let's just stick to pleasing the majority.

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10/15/2014 07:10 PM (UTC)
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WeaponTheory Wrote:
ErmackDaddy Wrote:
Your opinion is stupid. Just thought you should know.


Okay. confused

OP basically said that there should be a male character with a thong and have his dick flop around to appeal to females and homosexual guys.

Why?

"B-B-Because straight men get to see bouncing boobs".

Fuck you. No one asked for that. Even straight men complained about Sonya's ridiculous primary outfit in MK9. No. This is forcing an asinine idea, into a game that's trying to be serious at that. Just as stupid of an idea as purposely making a character "black" for the sake of diversity in one of the other threads not too long ago. Thong Man shouldn't be a forced character for such a reason.

Want to have a man in a thong? Okay. Fine. Whatever.
Then the MK Team would have to make a Voldo wannabe character because there's no other way to do it without pissing people off. And no one can classify Voldo as a gay, just...a very strange, weird man. And even then, his characteristics is just laughable. Perfect character development.

But that floppy dick idea is idiotic.
Floppy Thong Dick McGee will taint the serious route that Mortal Kombat is going for. If he's a fighter doing some serious combat moves but with his thong dick flopping about, you are killing the vibe here.

"Okay, he has a good moveset, but what the fuck is with his dick flopping? Why?"
What will be the point behind this idea in-game wise?
How would this fit the character persona?
There's no other info about this character. He's just basically there for the cock lovers.
No no.

The females breast didn't jiggle in the previous MK games just for them to be an existing character. Even Mileena's bandage attire in MK9 had reason because it was her attire during her creation process. This "character" will be there just to be there. But in reality, we know why, because of topics like this. Meanwhile this "character" is there, and then there's future installments.
He will be the Dan of Mortal Kombat.
And because of that, some women and the homosexual men will be the minority versus the thousands of women with a sense of humor and straight men that will see him nothing more than a god damn joke character to troll people with.

Some how, it will probably hurt the minorities feelings regardless of them getting their cock wish, with them crying "pls make him sirius in MKXI dis time so no 1 laffs ok?".....But they were serious. This is how the MK Team roll.
Or was Rain not a good enough example for you?
"We" laughed at his "heeeyy" intro.
Now imagine if he had a thong and a dick flopping unreal engine feature.
He will be a fucking joke, more than he his now.
A big gay joke.
And the last thing I want is a good character to have such a label.

But please, feel free to keep shit posting, "ErmackDaddy". You could have at least explained yourself.




Brilliance, just pure brilliance!
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smokeman14
10/15/2014 07:22 PM (UTC)
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At this point this topic should be considered shitposting.

Seems to work great, I should try it some time.
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10/15/2014 10:15 PM (UTC)
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Meant to clarify myself. i found his opinion stupid because of his ignorant wording. sexualizing anything in mk is a bad idea and takes away from an attemp at a serious tone. but spouting out statistics and saying thank god just comes across to me as an ignorant redneck spewing bullshit. just saying.
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10/15/2014 10:24 PM (UTC)
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SwingBatta Wrote:
As much as I despised Skarlet's lazy design in MK9, it also made a senseless sense since she absorbs people's blood through her skin.


If she can turn into a puddle and back, that means she's a kind of shapeshifter and her clothes are made out of the same thing her skin is, blood. They're part of her body, they just LOOK like clothes. So she SHOULD be able to absorb blood through her clothes.
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10/16/2014 03:02 PM (UTC)
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I'm so bored of seeing this argument again and again. At least re-read the previous threads before posting a new one, and you'll see why it's a bad idea to "sexify" a character in a fighting game for the sake of it.
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10/16/2014 03:18 PM (UTC)
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ErmackDaddy Wrote:
Meant to clarify myself. i found his opinion stupid because of his ignorant wording. sexualizing anything in mk is a bad idea and takes away from an attemp at a serious tone. but spouting out statistics and saying thank god just comes across to me as an ignorant redneck spewing bullshit. just saying.


HEY!
Now you watch what you say around these parts here, feller.
Yer might find yerself accidentally in that there gator swamp up the road there *points*.
Me and the family don't take kindly to folks that classifies us as "rednecks".
I don't read necks. And I wish you damn city folk stop saying that I do! *chews*
You see that there flag, fella?
Now that there flag represents a many of things.
But around these neck of the woods. It means we take no shit from nobodies. *spits chewed black stuff in little bucket*

THANK GOD! THANK GOD! THANK GOD! YE HAW!

Sorry, the topic made me mad that day.
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10/16/2014 04:35 PM (UTC)
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friendshipagain Wrote:
Rhewi Wrote:
Approve!

They've made Kano a lot better looking in my opinion so that helps me. I think it's always better to have something visually appealing if you have to look at it all the time, no matter what it is.

When Dead or Alive 5 released the swimsuits for the male characters I downloaded that straight away! I know it's weird because they are just videogame characters but the graphics were so nice in that game it was definitely appealing to me as a gaymer, like the bouncing huge boobs are for most of the other players! lol

It wouldn't hurt having a male character in something a bit more skimpy, especially with these graphics and all the extra detail with the sweat etc. sex sells tongue


Kano has *certainly* caught my eye in MKX.. grin

Definitely a conscious effort to sex him up. NRS targeting the gaymers there I think. One or two male hotties is more than enough though. We've had 9 games of scantily clad dominatrix female ninjas, so seems fair.

Oh - and Jax has always been pretty sexy too. Cage has had his moments.


I never cared about Kano, but this go round they gave Kano some swag and upgraded his look to make him a strong contender for the MK bae title haha
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10/16/2014 09:38 PM (UTC)
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I'm going to comment on this again.

Why would they EVER make a gay male character just for the purpose of there being a gay male character?!

That's like if they created Jax just for there to be a black character, I know, shitty reason, right?

And that's why they won't do this.
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10/16/2014 09:40 PM (UTC)
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Quanchi9 Wrote:
I'm going to comment on this again.

Why would they EVER make a gay male character just for the purpose of there being a gay male character?!

That's like if they created Jax just for there to be a black character, I know, shitty reason, right?

And that's why they won't do this.


No one said the character had to be gay.
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why

10/17/2014 12:03 AM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Quanchi9 Wrote:
I'm going to comment on this again.

Why would they EVER make a gay male character just for the purpose of there being a gay male character?!

That's like if they created Jax just for there to be a black character, I know, shitty reason, right?

And that's why they won't do this.


No one said the character had to be gay.


Okay, here, lemme correct myself.

Why would they EVER make a sexified male character just for the purpose of there being a sexified male character?!
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10/17/2014 11:31 AM (UTC)
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Quanchi9 Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Quanchi9 Wrote:
I'm going to comment on this again.

Why would they EVER make a gay male character just for the purpose of there being a gay male character?!

That's like if they created Jax just for there to be a black character, I know, shitty reason, right?

And that's why they won't do this.


No one said the character had to be gay.


Okay, here, lemme correct myself.

Why would they EVER make a sexified male character just for the purpose of there being a sexified male character?!


Thank you.
And they shouldn't. It's not a good premise to start a character on. However, to sexify a male character could still be part of the design, as long that's not what the developers have based the entire character on.

Kitana, Mileena and Jade, for example... to "be sexy" isn't why they were created. They were created, because Boon and Tobias wanted some female ninjas to balance out Sub-Zero, Scorpion and Reptile. And thus a story was built around them, character designs and gameplay.

If they had started with "We need a sexy chick. Any suggestions?" they wouldn't be what they are today. That's what I'm convinced of anyways. However, their sex-appeal came along as they built their characters, and that's acceptable.

... That NRS tuned up for their sex-appeal in MK9 is just a bad design choice.
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10/20/2014 10:19 PM (UTC)
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ToastyMK Wrote:I never cared about Kano, but this go round they gave Kano some swag and upgraded his look to make him a strong contender for the MK bae title haha


I agree with your point (but not the words 'swag' and 'bae'). He's the perfect example though. Kano's new look IS sexy but not deliberately overly-sexual. It's possible to be sexy without going overboard into slutty, and i think for a gritty, realism-infused fighting game that's the right direction to aim for.
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10/21/2014 04:56 AM (UTC)
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Quanchi9 Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Quanchi9 Wrote:
I'm going to comment on this again.

Why would they EVER make a gay male character just for the purpose of there being a gay male character?!

That's like if they created Jax just for there to be a black character, I know, shitty reason, right?

And that's why they won't do this.


No one said the character had to be gay.


Okay, here, lemme correct myself.

Why would they EVER make a sexified male character just for the purpose of there being a sexified male character?!


Because this!!!:
"oh... my pants are unzipped..."
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10/21/2014 05:36 AM (UTC)
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I disagree with the notion that everyone who doesn't want over-sexualized females in MK are either women or gay people.
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10/21/2014 06:25 AM (UTC)
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You know Sega tried an overly sexualized gay character in Streets of Rage 3. But when releasing the game to western audiences Sega of America removed the character worrying that it would offend both straight and gay people a like. They instead made Axel's shirt yellow and colored his pants to make them look leather to "Sex him up." And everyone thought it was fucking stupid. Looking back 20 years later however, Ash was incredibly stereotypical and offensive as hell, even to a straight man. And I can hardly see MK benefiting from a highly sexualized gay character, as today as back then many on both sides would find it extremely offensive. Besides, like real people, I don't give a rats ass who these characters sleep with. I'd like them either way.

Never saw Ash in Streets of Rage 3 (Bare Knuckle 3 in Japan)? You can either be turned on or offended at youtube.
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10/21/2014 07:07 AM (UTC)
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Denizen Wrote:
I disagree with the notion that everyone who doesn't want over-sexualized females in MK are either women or gay people.


No one should agree with such an idiotic assessment. Heck, I'm equally cringey at overly-beefcaked guys.
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