Human Sub is back! But who is it?
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posted06/05/2014 05:14 PM (UTC)by
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Ki5hiDo
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06/29/2011 06:32 PM (UTC)
Is it Kuai Lang after being revived in a human body... meaning fuck you CSZ

Is it Bi Han after being revived... Meaning no Noob

Or is it someone else?
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06/02/2014 01:38 PM (UTC)
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When Sub-Zero initially appears in the trailer, I couldn't help but notice he looked a bit expired, as if he had in fact died.

He might have indeed been revived.
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Ki5hiDo
06/02/2014 01:42 PM (UTC)
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True dat... And I really want to know if the feud between Scorpion and him will go restart or it was just for the trailer.

But if he is revived... Kuai Lang or Bi Han.
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Rockchalk5477
06/02/2014 01:43 PM (UTC)
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While this may seem to be preemptive in speculation, his eyes lit up briefly before he got a kunai through the skull (and dimmed after his head got a sword through it); he looks undead in that manner.

Only time will tell, but he looks like Kuai.
Edit: The odd thing is, though, that he sounds way more like Bi-Han. Also, he has shuriken on his uniform, which also causes me to think, now, that this Sub-Zero is Bi-Han. (If only the devs/modelers could keep the characters' appearances straight.)
P.S. Someone should make a gif of Scorpion dodging Subz's flying severed head.
SaurienDeity Wrote: I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who noticed the thing with the eyes. What I'm thinking/hoping Quan Chi/Shinnok revive all of the dead characters as an army of brainwashed Netherrealm zombies.

Indeed!
MK176 Wrote: Sub-Zero did have glowing eyes but his alternate in MKDA had glowing eyes last I remember and even renders or concept arts depict Sub-Zero in various games with blue glowing eyes so I don't know how much that means anything.

My only qualm with this is that his eyes didn't start the whole glowing business until he picked up the Dragon Medallion, which then caused his eyes to turn pure white in Deception/Armageddon. Subz's eyes generally are either normal or the irises glow a bit. (They were normal in MK9.)
His eyes turn pure white in the video, which generally hints toward being undead.
Again, this could be overthinking, but it's fun overthinking. wink
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06/02/2014 01:44 PM (UTC)
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Way too early to tell, but it looked more like Bi-Han to me. Some prequel speculation in the other thread...gotta say, I wouldn't object to these being an earlier Sub-Zero and Scorpion of some sort.
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06/02/2014 01:49 PM (UTC)
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I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who noticed the thing with the eyes. What I'm thinking/hoping Quan Chi/Shinnok revive all of the dead characters as an army of brainwashed Netherrealm zombies.
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06/02/2014 01:54 PM (UTC)
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Ki5hiDo Wrote:
True dat... And I really want to know if the feud between Scorpion and him will go restart or it was just for the trailer.

But if he is revived... Kuai Lang or Bi Han.


Probably Kuai Lang.

Noob Saibot is a product of Quan Chi's sorcery, that's most likely going to remain.
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MK176
06/02/2014 01:57 PM (UTC)
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At this point can't really tell. Although most likely it's either Kuai Liang or Bi Han. Most likely Kuai Liang imo. Sub-Zero did have glowing eyes but his alternate in MKDA had glowing eyes last I remember and even renders or concept arts depict Sub-Zero in various games with blue glowing eyes so I don't know how much that means anything.
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Ki5hiDo
06/02/2014 02:01 PM (UTC)
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Riyakou Wrote:
Ki5hiDo Wrote:
True dat... And I really want to know if the feud between Scorpion and him will go restart or it was just for the trailer.

But if he is revived... Kuai Lang or Bi Han.


Probably Kuai Lang.

Noob Saibot is a product of Quan Chi's sorcery, that's most likely going to remain.


And Kuai's real body is a bin
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jack4813
06/02/2014 02:16 PM (UTC)
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Well, I didn't notice an eye scar. Could be trivial. But might mean it's Bi Han
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Rockchalk5477
06/02/2014 02:18 PM (UTC)
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jack4813 Wrote:
Well, I didn't notice an eye scar. Could be trivial. But might mean it's Bi Han

But, Kuai has yet to receive that scar in this new timeline, to our knowledge... Some people theorize that the whole cyborg-ization will give him one, though. Who knows?

He only got it (for nostalgia's sake) in his pseudo MK3 costume.
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NS922 Wrote:Here's the scar:

Damn!
How could I have missed that? tongue
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06/02/2014 02:19 PM (UTC)
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Here's the scar

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Icebaby
06/02/2014 02:22 PM (UTC)
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NS922 Wrote:
Here's the scar



*Buh dum CRASH*

It's a sick look, nonetheless. (Referring to Sub-Zero's actual appearance, not the whole spear in the head look)
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06/02/2014 02:23 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:

the whole spear in the head look)


I tend to like that look for him
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Ki5hiDo
06/02/2014 02:25 PM (UTC)
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You are right... there is the scar!

So it has to be Kuai or not? Cuz now the important question is... How he got it, cuz in MK9 he never gained it... And how, even if revive, left the Cyborg Body... And what will happen to CSZ now
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06/02/2014 02:25 PM (UTC)
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Rockchalk5477 Wrote:
jack4813 Wrote:
Well, I didn't notice an eye scar. Could be trivial. But might mean it's Bi Han

But, Kuai has yet to receive that scar in this new timeline yet, to our knowledge... Some people theorize that the whole cyborg-ization will give him one, though. Who knows?

He only got it (for nostalgia's sake) in his pseudo MK3 costume.
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NS922 Wrote:Here's the scar:

Damn!
How could I have missed that? tongue


Um. I'm pretty sure he got his scar last game.
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06/02/2014 02:26 PM (UTC)
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NS922 Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:

the whole spear in the head look)


I tend to like that look for him


Indeed Lol

Still trying to figure out why his eyes flickered shortly after?

Either way it is WAY TOO early to speculate...
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Rockchalk5477
06/02/2014 02:28 PM (UTC)
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jack4813 Wrote:
Um. I'm pretty sure he got his scar last game.

No, he didn't. There were complaints from fans about his complete lack of a scar in the game.
When he's taken away from the coliseum he doesn't have one; thereafter, he turns into a cyborg and we don't ever see his face again.

Tell me when he got it.
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jack4813 Wrote: Mkay mkay, makes sense. I guess it's just been so long I forgot.
I supposed not getting it last game is better than getting it from Kung Lao carelessly throwing his hat at Sub's face.
I forget stuff from the last game, too.
And I wholeheartedly agree with you on the Kung Lao hat scene being absent. wink
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MK176
06/02/2014 02:29 PM (UTC)
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He could always get the scar this game. I'm guessing if he does have the scar, it most likely should be Kuai Liang imo.
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Jaded-Raven
06/02/2014 02:30 PM (UTC)
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I had hoped for a Cyber Subbie. Hopefully he will have it as an alt costume or an unlockable character, like in MK9.
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jack4813
06/02/2014 02:31 PM (UTC)
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Rockchalk5477 Wrote:
jack4813 Wrote:
Um. I'm pretty sure he got his scar last game.

No, he didn't. There were complaints from fans about his complete lack of a scar in the game. When he's taken away in the coliseum he doesn't have one; right after that he turns into a cyborg and we don't ever see his face again.

Tell me when he got it.


Mkay mkay, makes sense. I guess it's just been so long I forgot.

I supposed not getting it last game is better than getting it from Kung Lao carelessly throwing his hat at Sub's face.
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06/02/2014 02:32 PM (UTC)
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Well then, that settles it. My bet is Shinnok and co. are still firmly in control of MK9's dead, and the Stargate portal is from them sending them out to make mincemeat out of the survivors. Sub-Zero's soul was restored to its body in order to make it possible to resurrect him for whatever reason.

The infection has been removed and CSZ is a thing of the past. :D

They'll probably retcon the car into having happened with no explanation to restore his iconic look.

Also, calling it now. Repeated story mode fights against the dead who keep coming back through portals. tongue
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Immortal_Kanji
06/02/2014 02:44 PM (UTC)
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IT BETTER BE KUAI LIANG!
I believe its Kuai Liang.
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Icebaby
06/02/2014 03:49 PM (UTC)
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Why would this be Bi Han? He's Noob Saibot! What, the Soulnado is some random time portal as well that managed to change him back into Bi Han? Then what happens to Noob? Gone from existence? Thats's crap! Granted that we have no idea what happened to Noob, turning him back into Sub-Zero and completely ditching Kuai Liang to make Bi Han's Sub-Zero return doesn't make sense at all!

I'm going to safely assume it's this: Different Variations

I mean if this is being mentioned, then it makes complete sense as to why Sub-Zero is human again. I really doubt they would make Noob Saibot be Sub-Zero if there's variations. (That is if Noob is even in the game)
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