I never really quite understood why Sonya doesn't have a more military look than usual. Seriously, if anyone thought she looked more of a military woman in MK vs. DC, shame shame... all she had was a hat.

Game play, I'm pretty much agreeing with you.

Her story... I've always thought that Sonya had the most boring story in all of MK. I never really enjoyed any issues she was undergoing and it just seems like, all these renders of making her look like the perfect woman men would date, the creators seemed to be more creative on that rather than her story. So definitely that needs to change big time.

Other than that, yeah I can see her come back... of course, she's a classic, why wouldn't she? Unless for some reason there's a big dramatic change.

Hello! I am new in this forum and my Englishman is not very nice, so excuses the mistakes.

Good as for your theory, I believe that Sonya's returns of Shao Kahn's side and of there his magic side.

Since it was kidnapped by Shao Kahn in MK2, one has seen in the later games that she has wanted to return to his side.

This according to my opinion they're ligatures "strangly".

Lol, am I going to be the only one saying something like this? Lol...

Anyways....

There's always a game that has this certain goody-goody character that you believe is going to turn evil somewhere at one point but never does... this is how I feel about Kitana. And yes, there needs to be a rational explanation about her suddenly changing from good to evil, though I cannot think about one at the current moment.

Looks - Meh, I think that she should have the same look she does right now. I mean, take a look in her ending of MK vs. DC... the person that's behind her in the dress-like outfit should be what she should look like.

Gameplay - She's got more, her Square Wave Punch and her Fan Throw... that's three! But I don't really quite understood the teleport... Mainly any character that had the ability to teleport strangely out of nowhere like she did. But there should be something new to her.

Storywise - Personal? Did they really ever make it sound like Liu and Kitana actually became boyfriend and girlfriend anywhere? I mean there were those moments, but they never really kissed or anything like that... and because Liu is dead, if they're sticking with that story FYI, then she should seriously get revenege if for some reason Shang Tsung was in the game as well. That's the only thing I could see.

But anyways, I agree with you too on making her deadlier... but yet again, she's from Edenia, aren't they always peaceful?

LOL.... probably. This site isn't as alive as it used to be.


That would be good. An outfit like that would satisfy me.


The Square Wave Punch is originally Sonya's, and the Fan Throw isn't creative. Her fanlift is her only cool move, imo.


By personal I mean she should have personal problems to deal with like in MK2 and 3 where her story revolved around her relationships and inner struggles. Now, she just leads armies against whatever bad guys come along. That's too generic for her.


That's true, but Jade isn't ever-so-sweet. MKD showed she was tough and firm, very warrior-like. I think Kitana could definitely use a few pointers from her, not that they should behave identically.

I'd love it if Mileena were a Wild Card in terms of her personality. I look at Mileena as an abused child who has major psychological issues pointed towards Kitana and Shao Kahn.

If Mileena returns for another round I think it would be great if she sets up Shao Kahn's fall by manipulating Kitana by silently assassinating Sindel and attempting a murder plot on Shao Kahn disguised as Kitana, I think it would be great if Mileena baits out both Shao Kahn and Kitana to take them both out in her version of a "family reunion"

I like Baraka but I find it best that Mileena goes solo, I think it would be cool if Mileena kills Baraka during an act of intimacy and is in charge of his loosley organized band of Tarkatans, this act can demonstrate to fans how lethal and sociopathic Mileeana has become since the last game, and demonstrates the power Mileena is capable of having.

Taking her sociopathic mind even further would be terrific, except it would have to be presented in a different method because Shao Kahn and Kitana will never be taken out. They are classic characters. And sex has never happened in MK stories before so the Baraka approach would most likely never have a chance either.

If she were to do either of those things, it would be for a non-canon ending of hers or something only.

But hell yeah, I too would love to see the extent of her madness. That's part of what makes her so cool.

Mileena is my second favorite female character. She too is another character, like Sonya, who has not an interesting storyline whatsoever. MK2 was basically the only good story she had. Well, duh because one never really knew that she was a mutant creature underneath that mask unless they were too blind not to realize when she took her mask off during her fatalities... but anyways....

I never personally understood why she went beyond "sexy" with her looks as most people would refer that to. My favorite costume I thought looked good with her was MK Gold. I don't know why, but I thought that that look was decent for her.

Same with the moves, I am fine with what she has.

Storywise - I believe that there should be more relationships building into other characters. But I don't want this to sound like a lovey dovey kind of story with Mileena. There should be something between her and Baraka, but end it with a nasty ending. But, I don't really see her being the right hand of a boss. We've never encountered a female sub-boss/boss, I don't intend on seeing one in the future if there hasn't been one up to this game.

I think Mileena is the top and most interesting female in Mortal Kombat. Her primary costime for Deception was PERFECT! I remember back in 2004 when they released the first Mileena render for Deception and when they released the fight scene between her and Baraka, I was COMPLETELY blown away and amazed! Definately a memorable Mortal Kombat moment. As far as story goes, Mileena has always had a lot of potential and she's on the road to becoming Mortal Kombat's MAIN female villain. Just how Sindel was in MK3. I can really see her becoming a tyrant and empress of Outworld. I think it would be interesting to see Outworld civilians as slaves to her power. I think she's the perfect candidate to take control of Outworld if Shao Kahn isn't there. I could see her as Shao Kahn's General or even as the tarkatan's new leader. She's got potential all over the place.

Her storyline is also very deep and I don't think that people pay attention to that often. She's been the underdog her entire life. She's not the type of character who gets others to do her dirty work because she's always either taking orders or she goes out there to do her own dirty work. She doesn't really rely on "magical powers," either, she's one independent chick. She's lived her entire life with people telling her that Kitana is the true princess and that Kitana is better. She's basically full of anger and that fuels her up to become very very ambitious. She has all the qualities that can create really good DRAMA, plus her cool design, weapons, VEIL and the fact that she's a clone of Kitana (since Kitana is one of the main MK characters) just makes her VERY appealing, mysterious and interesting. All those unique traits that sets her apart from other characters, especially Kitana, really offer a lot to Mortal Kombat. Mileena is awesome

I think in an effort to make Mileena an even more stealthy and effective double agent Shang Tsung should give her the ability to morph or transform her face at will between Kitana's face and the tarkatan one.

You know for her fatality she could take her mask off and kiss you while she looks like KItana and then her teeth can come out and she can rip your head off. I think it adds another layer to Mileena.

As far as outfits go, i really like the Arabian themed mkd primary. Very cool. As an alt I think it should be something extremely revealing. Because of her tarkatan face Mileena seems to be really obsessed with her physical appearance so she compensates by showing off her one saving grace at present. Her body.

The mkd alt, mksm, or the mk gold costume all work for me.

Queen Sindel i could see the spikes maybe. if they did a design and it blew me away. But for the most part the problem I have had with almost all the designs is when the mk team clutters them up with spikes and shoulder pads and belts. Keep them simple. That is what really made Mileena's mkd work i thought. It was very simple yet still awesome.

I also agree with Edenianninja that there remains a lot of potential in Mileena's character that has yet to be tapped. Even though this is a fighting game and not a novel, the story potential is there.

I really like what you said Thrawn!

I love her 3 original moves, but I think she should be given atleast 2 or 3 new ones. These are some ideas for new moves:

1) Sai Dash: Kinda like Raidens dash move, except Mileena would hold her Sai's out

2) Nail Twirl: Mileena spins around with her arms out and smacks the opponent twice. Kinda like how Deathstroke attacked Wolverine in X2.

3) Bite: Mileena jumps on top of her opponent and bites him/her

FATALITY IDEAS:
1) Mileena stabs her opponent in the stomach. She takes off her veil and the opponent is screaming while Mileena is just laughing like a lunatic for a couple seconds. When you least expect it, Mileena stabs the opponent in the face. She then takes out the Sai in the stomach and wipes the blood off and grins for her pose.

Interesting comments, people.

Icebaby, I don't imagine Mileena ever being a sub-boss. Sindel was Shao Kahn's right hand in MK3 but she wasn't the sub-boss.

Thrawn, some people here like to think Mileena wears skimpy outfits to distract from her face. There's different reasons why I know that to be false.

1) All the females are given revealing outfits. It's only standard for Mileena to do the same. There's nothing special about it in her case whatsoever.

And 2) she doesn't need to distract from her face because she conceals it. She has always worn masks or a veil. That has been her one and only written approach at hiding her tarkatan features since day one.

For instance, the Edenian army believed her to be Kitana only because her veil covered her mouth. There were absolutely no statements or even implications that her skimpiness had anything to do with helping her conceal her true features.

QueenSindel(The Bitch) I wasn't suggesting that she wears the skimpy outfits to distract from her face at all. It is my interpretation and theory that Mileena is insecure about her looks to a point where she is very obsessed with outer beauty.
This would also explain her jealousy and her inferiority complex (as perceived by me) when it comes to Kitana. In her mka ending it is notable to me that when she can get whatever she wants, she chooses to basically switch places with Kitana. Not just to fix her looks, but destroy Kitana's as well.

Mileena is a very damaged individual psychologically (hey who could blame her). I think part of her emphasis on the extremely skimpy outfits is a symptom of this. At least I think it is a cool explanation.

Milleena has the skimpiest outfits of any character because of her face. The mk team is playing on the male fanasty of the perfect woman which until you see her face Mileena would appear to be. A perfect case of too good to be true.

I merely think it would be cool to offer some character insight for her in a future game.

What do you think?

i agree with EdenianNinja in that I would also like Mileena to get at least one new move. The 3 she has now are so good together but it is time for a slight upgrade.

I really like your idea for the jumping bite move. Sort of like Catwoman's jump and scratch move in mk vs dc. That would be nice.

I don't know what else, maybe in addition to the regular air sai throw, give her a diagonal air sai throw as well for a little bit more variety,

I didn't see where anyone else mentioned this either, but I would consider it a disappointment if Mileena doesn't return with a sai stance as well. I don't think that the majority of characters should have weapon stances, I prefer hand to hand, but Mileena should absolutely have both hand to hand and weapon styles.

Oh so you think she dresses that way for her self-esteem.

I guess that makes more sense.

The reason why I don't think she has a self-esteem problem is because she has already surpassed Kitana in a way. In MKD where she "achieved her destiny," being at the top of her game, she most likely has been feeling overconfident if anything since then, now that she's been in a position of superiority and power which is exactly what she's wanted since day one. There's no reason for her to feel low anymore.

If you perceive an inferiority complex though, I can understand why, although IMO that's the old Mileena.

Seriously though, if she were a guy with the same mouth and problems, she wouldn't look like a stripper, and we all know why.... We have to consider that the other females except Sonya dress like her too. Showing a little more skin doesn't make Mileena any different from the rest of the girls. Kitana's skimpiness was discussed heavily when her MK vs DC render came out, so it's clearly not just Mileena.

Again, I think it's simply standard dress code and there has never been written evidence of a personal reason she has for dressing that way, but if it helps make her more interesting to you, then that's fine.

I don't really get why Jade started to look more of an Egyptian person instead of what she really is, and you already said it, that she's more of a stealthy person. Therefore, she should have more of a ninja-ish look... I actually liked how she looked in Shoalin Monks, and that's what she should really look more like in the future if she's a returnee.

Her moves, I felt like she was very slow in Deception and I always enjoyed playing as Jade in UMK3 because she was like one of the few who were extremely fast. I want all of her classic moves to return, such as her kick, the evade move, and her boomerang. Though, I feel that she needs another move, or it's probably just me.

Story... hmmm... Her rivalry with Tanya was a bit lame... it just came out of nowhere, probably becuase Tanya and Jade haven't been in the game for a while, and they (the MK writers) needed someone to go after the other so they thought that Jade and Tanya would be perfect rivals. Though they made it completely stupid in their endings. Jade killed Tanya by throwing some "Tarkatan Essence" on her and they ate her all up. Tanya mention nothing about Jade in her ending, just that she gain supreme power from destroying Onaga.

I always felt that she was an overrated character in Deception. She was horrible, and I wasn't happy about that. Jade should seriously get a better role in the future besides being Sindel's aid and Kitana's best friend... she should step it up a notch... though of course she had her times of being evil... and it's too late to make her be evil once more. Aww..

So all in all, I think that she's a very dull character after actually looking at her more deeply in the game. She's fun to play as, but to actually realize why she's in the game, she's not that great.

I think it would be best if Jade were considered a Fugitive by the Edenian officials. This could tie in with my Mileena plot in the assassination of Sindel, Kitana would have left the kingdom of Edenia in pursuit of the assassin and I think Jade would stay behind in the investigation of the murder. I say tie in Rain as a double agent who plants evidence that points towards Jade as the assassin and Jade gets hunted down as a suspect. You can have a new interesting character play the bounty hunter role in capturing Jade and tie him into other characters as well during his journey.

I think the most logical thing is for Jade to dodge her captors and seek out Kitana who is her most trusted ally in hopes of finding the killer and also the one who framed her for the murder. This plot would be interesting for Jade and can show how resourceful, professional, and patriotic Jade could be even in the face of being framed for infidelity.

In terms of her looks, keep the traditional masked look for Jade, I prefer her hair being tied back preferably in a long pony tail with golden trinkets on it and I love her amazonian features. In both her appearances I think it should incorporate her staff on her back that she could use with ease.

I don't think the next Mortal Kombat game should have characters switch stances or styles, perhaps Jade can be a special character in that with a combination of buttons she can wield her Staff as a special fighting stance with a bunch of special moves involving her staff, think Sheik and Zelda in Smash Bros. and you'll have an idea of what I'm talking about. This could be similar to characters such as Kai who does his handstand a la Mortal Kombat 4 and Sindel with her levitation stance in Mortal Kombat 3.

Also, get rid of the Shadow Kick for Jade, that was one move that bugged me for a long time considering that it has always been Johnny Cage's signature move, I think a great move could involve Jade's quickness and agility in a special roll move that can bring her behind her opponent for a free hit.

I have to say right off the bat Jade is one of my 3 favorite mk women. The other 2 being Sonya and Sindel.

As long as Jade has her ninja look in the next games I dont' care what her primary is. I liked her mkd primary but I never used it. Always the ninja look. I did really like her primary too though.

I would like her to go back to being one of the hidden or ultra unlockable characters in the next mk. I will agree with Icebaby that Jade felt a tad slow on mkd. In my opinion she should be the fastest female of them all in keeping with her umk3 debut and the whole hidden character mystique.

As far as moves go, I don't have really any specific ones in mind right now, but the projectile evade must return. I agree with QueenSindel that it was kind of not that great in mkd. I am fine with the button combination but I think it would have benefited from increasing the duration by 1 or 2 seconds. Not enough to overpower it, but enough to make it have more applications. Or maybe make it last 5 seconds longer than it did and give it a slight cool down or something. But the move by itself combined with the the fact that Jade should be one of the fastest characters in both moves and walk speed means she should be a character that instantly makes the opponent go "Oh shit, I've got a Jade player here. I had better bring my 'A' game."

I have to say that her rivalry with Tanya is the coolest new rivalry we have gotten. Jade's character is pretty much established now. She is kind of Edenia's top warrior. She is the Princess Kitana's best friend, she is Queen Sindel's most loyal subject. I would imagine that on missions where Shao Kahn didn't want to risk losing Kitana he sends Jade.

Jade truly is one of the good guys, and loyal to her realm and her Queen to a fault. That is why her rivalry with Tanya has the potential to be one of the most bitter and vicious ones we have seen. Tanya is a consummate opportunist and the very definition of a traitor.

It makes perfect sense that at least on Jade's part she harbors a deep hatred for Tanya. Tanya has betrayed her realm, people, and her Queen just to save herself. For a warrior like Jade who has honor and obvioulsy a deep sense of pride in her people and heritage there can be no greater crime than betrayal. Jade will never forgive Tanya for her traitorous actions.

That rivalry also gave Tanya something to do, who before this contributed nothing to the mythos and I thought was a character I never wanted to see again. Not anymore thanks to her catfight with Jade. There is potential there with not only Jade, but Kitana and SIndel as well.

As far as why Jade is in the game and "it isn't that great" I have to disagree there Icebaby. She serves a very necessary function as support cast and ally. We have the truly important characters in terms of story and role Kitana, SIndel, Shang Tsung, Quan Chi, Shao Kahn, Sub Zero, Raiden, maybe Kung Lao.

Not every character has to have an epic role in the story. Jade does have an important role in mkd. She frees Sindel and helps her free Kitana. She is an important character, just not as important as say Sub Zero or Raiden. I'm okay with it. She is basically like say Boba Fett in Empire Strikes back. Important and awesome but still a support character. I am sure that you are already aware of this but I disagree with your assessment of Jade.

Nice.

The reason why the Jade and Tanya rivalry is lame is because it wasn't developed enough. That is why I would have preferred Tanya being the focus of Jade's MKD bio instead of Sindel.

Thrawn, you really nailed how I feel about Jade's feelings for Tanya. Utter, unforgiving, bitter and passionate rancor. So logically, as long as Tanya's around, Jade should be the most ready and willing character to stop her.

They should so become archenemies like Sonya and Kano. Their relationship just needs tons of development since we've only scratched the surface so far.

Grizzle, Jade being a fugitive can be interesting, but realistically I doubt anyone will suspect her of killing Sindel knowing how adamantly loyal she is. And if there's "evidence" I imagine Kitana knowing Jade couldn't commit such a crime and immediately realizing it's a set up. She's simply the last person that would kill Sindel. Her loyal nature seems parallel to Sonya's. So if a story like that ever emerged, I would not like it for that reason.

Maybe she can be a fugitive for something else though, like killing someone who was about to damage Edenia. Everyone thought that person was good so they think she should be punished and now she has to find evidence to prove that person was gonna do something bad if she hadn't stopped him/her.

Something like that would work better, imo, and it can also include other characters. But I definitely wanna see Jade do something controversial in the name of patriotism.

Can't understand the point of deleting the original post every day. But oh well, time to play catch up:

Sonya-
Appearance: Primary - Similar to her MKDA/MK Vs DC costumes, maybe with a longer jacket. And drop the whole thong above the trousers thing.
Secondary - Blood camo combat trousers and some sort of top.

Story - The usual save the world from evil thing but I want something to dent her confidence a bit. Most of her bios seem to say that she kicks arse and shit. Maybe its time for someone (Kano or Kira maybe) to defeat her or something. I mean Jax during MK Vs DC looked like he wanted to tear her head off!

Kitana-
Appearance: Primary - Unmasked, Similar to the MK VS DC gear but you see the amount of detail Subbo and Scorpy get on their gear, give some of it to Kitana?
Secondary - Light purple, long flowing robes with maybe a phoenix pattern/motif on it.

Story - Not sure really. Are they going to continue with the whole Edenian ambassador and Liu Kang love story thing, she seemed to be sadder when Goro died! (and then it turned he didn't! and he tore her in half! Mortal Kombat is funny like that!) She definitely should continue to be the caring one in the MK Universe. Maybe even have her try to make up with Mileena.

Mileena-
Appearance: Primary: Masked/Veiled, She definitely should look seductive. Her Deception primary seemed to do the job.
Secondary: Unmasked, something similar to Baraka's classic primary. She should look more like a Tarkatan warrior.

Story - Deception helped Mileena, no more Kitana to get in the way of herstory and it was great, her own goals came before Baraka's showing that she isn't a dumb lackey. She should continue down this route. Who knows she could try and topple Big Daddy Kahn!

Jade-
Appearance: Primary. Similar to her Deception primary really.
Secondary: Something a bit more covered and something where the main colour of the gear isn't green!

Story- I dont like the feud between Jade and Tanya. Seems a bit too obvious really. Kinda like a B-list Kitana and Mileena. I like Jade but I cant see her developing beyond defending Edenia from evil. Maybe if she becomes more like an assassin. She targets her victim and she tries to take him/her out.

Interesting. Funny how I never thought of that before.

But yes, looking like a female tarkatan warrior is probably what I've been waiting for. That's how she can don a more vicious appearance. Would be perfect for an unmasked alternate costume. For her primary, I still want her to wear a veil.

Good idea.

QueenSindel you said if Mileena were a guy with face and mouth problems then he wouldn't be dressed like a stripper. Okay, what about Shao Kahn? He looks like a male prostitute.

I really agree with you, Grizzle and QueenSindel(The Bitch) =)

I think Jade has always had potential, but her storyline has never been fully developed. I really liked her role in MKD, I liked how Sindel and Jade teamed up and stuff. That was really good. I remember when they announced Jade and Tanya for MK: Deception, I was really excited because I was expecting a hardcore rivalry alone the lines of Mileena vs Kitana, Shang Tsung vs. Liu Kang etc etc. I was pretty disappointed with how they went about it though, and plus, I'm not a big fan of Tanya either so that didn't help much either.

Overall, Mortal Kombat doesn't have a lot of characters like Jade. Jade is probably the most loyal and she's the type of character who is willing to sacrafice herself for those that she loves. She's kick ass and she's got her friend's back! She's like the girl in high school who is the MVP and best friends with the Homecoming Queen, but no one messes with her because they know they'd get their butt kicked.

I feel that she's always been a "messenger" type character, or the "sidekick" type character. I think it fits her well, but I think she could use a really cool twist to her storyline. I think it would be really cool to see her as an Edenian Ambassador since Sindel and Kitana think of her so highly. She would be in charge of an army and that can stir up a potential rivalry with Rain. Not only that, but I think it would be interesting if Sindel gets either captured or killed by Mileena and she does it so that Jade gets caught red handed. This way, Jade's loyalty would come into question, which may cause some drama with the Earth Warriors and Kitana and it can also create a rivalry between Jade and Mileena, since Mileena would be the one who framed her.

Thanks.

I just believe Primaries and Secondary costumes should look completely different. In every way including colour. Which doesn't really happen often in MK if you are a "ninja"!