Oh, you have absolutely no idea! Fuck yeah!

They now actually have a chance to put the storyline back together and fix up loose ends.

i'm not going to buy mk vs dcu and i'm already waiting for MK8/9(depends on what it is).
the imprtant thing is that the game must be M rated

As long as the next MK isn't MK vs DC 2 I'm skipping. if it is MK vs DC 2 I'll tear Boon apart.

I'm not trying to start anything here, though I must say that it's kind of foolish to be so childish over a crossover game. I've said it a thousand times... it's just a game. Though, I know how some of you dedicate your lives to Mortal Kombat, and I cannot change the fact that you do, but seriously, it's sort of humorous to read your comments about this particular game.

Though, to answer your question, I will not skip buying this game. I've bought every MK game except for Special Forces, for some odd reason I don't know why my brother and I didn't get it, and what I've seen from this game pictures on this site and the others... this game looks cool enough to get. So I won't be one of you.

Yeah, I'm skipping this! I don't hate it (a potentially funny idea), but I want the series to go on, not to go awry.

im skipping mk vs dc because id rather see just mk fighters in an mk game, and plus i dont own a ps3 or x-box 360.

Yeah, I know the whole crossover thing is stupid, but it's still a MK game.

We should be greatful that we get something, which is why I stopped bitching a long time ago. So, to answer your question, no. I will not be skipping this game. Besides, Catwoman's MK material.

Wrong.

Being "greatful" that someone makes something that you can buy is the silliest mentality to have about any purchase.

They are expressing their artistic talent through a video game, we can either appreciate it, or tell them to make something else through what we buy from them.

We'd be more spoiled than anything based on what they put in the games, and based on what they actually listen to us about what we'd like them to put in the game. It's a sort of give and take at this point that would determine their fate as a sell-able product. Again, based on what we want them to make, what they like to make, and what they are able to program into the thing.

So No, I'm not buying this game(I'm slated to get a used copy later into next year if anything), but I will enjoy the entertainment until I'm marketed to again by them. It's more like, I'm not interested in a crossover from MK, so I will not buy it...because I don't appreciate it. Which means, it doesn't have any value to me. And without any value to me, it is not worth my dollars. "It's not what I want to buy from them....so I'm not."

I've pretty much said all I wanted to say about it, so now, I'll just enjoy the entertainment. Cuz it's still entertaining. - or + I like MK.

I'm getting it.

Anyone who would "skip" it, would be lying. Maybe they will skip purchasing the game, but everyone who likes MK will at least play it. And most will end up buying it, because its untelling when the real MK8 will come out.

I'm gonna buy it. Yeah I think it's a generally dumb idea, but I'm sure someone somewhere said the same thing about Marvel vs. Capcom, and that became one of the best fighting games ever. Finding Marvel vs Capcom 2 is about impossible. So, I'm not dissing it yet.

Midway is smart for making this, anyway you look at it. They know that there are plenty of MK fans, and plenty of DC fans, both who will be buying this game regardless if they hate the other side, or know that Superman could kill everyone in the MK universe and then some in actual storyline. That stuff dosen't matter, and what Riyakou was trying to say was, be happy that we get the chance to play this game which otherwise may have never been created. Midway thought of something interesting, and they went with it. I like that. MK was slowly dying the way it was going, so I'm all up for new things that may help or save the series altogether.

Will people please stop saying that those who say they won't get a game are liars?! Ok, that's my coming out... I don't actually own ANY videogame, just my brother and friends do. So when I say I can live without a videogame, I am really sincere about it.

Ooh now, not any way we could look at it. Particularly, in the initial reaction way. Not in the "MK gimmicky past" way either...not from an integrity standpoint....either. Let alone from the very staunch, very opinionated "bad idea" standpoint. And considering there are more than a handful of things about the game that look plagued by past mishaps, putting stock in the gameplay of this game is an apprehensive issue to begin with.

But I digress before I start sounding like that fan that's *gasp* judging the game without playing it. lol Cuz I'm not.

Same can be said for you and anyone else believing that they are "smart" for going this route without waiting to see the project come to fruition.

Basically, since I gotta wait to judge the gamplay, you gotta wait to see if it's a smart venture. Especially since the whole venture is based on trying to recover from declining sales. You gotta wait for the sales reports to come in to judge whether it's effectively a "smart" or "good idea". Sales results prove the marketing technique. So, since we don't have that yet, we won't see them, and really, who cares from a fan standpoint....I don't wanna hear about how "smart" they are for going this route. Because it has yet to be proven about this game.

Just saying, wait til the sales tally is in(which none of us will see), just like we have to wait to play it.



That doesn't make it a "smart business venture", that makes it risky. Thoughtful yea, but merely risky at this point. So, if I got that straight, instead of only being interested in what the game has to offer (like a fan should be).....you like the proposal behind demographic net-casting? lol That's what you're gonna buy this game for? Because you think it's smart to market MK & DC fanbases? aheh, really?

In past statements and rants and so on of mine, I make note of this very issue. And it's that -- that is the probably thee stupidest reason for a FAN to buy a product from anyone. Obligatory Fandom to a Franchise? It's literally a "stupid" standpoint to take about buying any item.....ever.

Because instead of buying to get a fantastic game, you're spending money on the company, because the company needs money. haha...You don't benefit from that kind of purchase as a fan, you just contribute in that instance. There is no return on your investment thinking that way. You mind as well just donate. Go walk up to any member of the MKTeam, and give em 60$, and walk away. Oh, and tell them that "this is for the next only MK game, k?"

And hopefully, juuust hopefully, as a perk for spending your money with a company as now an investor, (since that's what you've apparently become in this instance) and Instead of it being the sole reason you buy, maaaybe you'll get a good game out of the deal.

That's a backwards buying method as a mere consumer of a product dude.



"Be happy"? -- "Get the chance"? lmao

Be happy they're making something I don't want? okaaay Well, i don't like funny colored socks. So, by your logic, be happy I get to wear them? lol...And "Get the chance" makes it seem like MKvsDC was desired previous to its existence, and like it's a once in a lifetime opportunity. When it's neither. And frankly, I would have preferred that it never have been made.

Is that cool with you?

Bottom line here, is I don't buy what I don't like. It's that's simple. I didn't buy MKSF, MK4 or Gold, OR MKA. Nobody has anything to say about those...SoOoo, since I don't like this, I ain't buyin' it. Why is that so hard to comprehend amongst fans of the same franchise, and not be scrutinized about it? Idk.

But I make it a point not to say people are stupid, or, people are idiots when they confess that they will buy for the reasons they wanna buy this game.

It's your money, I hope you feel better knowing that you bought into the marketing scheme instead of knowing that you're buying a great game. Nobody makes that case, oddly. You all just talk about how smart a marketing risk it is. lol

Predator please, things were getting boring, I'm glad the MK team "spiced" things up. And while you may not be greatful for this, I am. Not everybody is going to feel the way you do.

mkvsdcu is gonna be cool. accept it people. no skipping this one.

"Spiced"? How are watered down fatalities "spicing" things up? How is making Sonya look like a man "spicing" things up? The DC characters look so goddamn boring, so apparantly that must be "spicy". Yes indeed. You know if it was something cool like Spawn or Killer Instinct, maybe it would be.

I'm sorry i'm sleepy right now so I probably sound a bit more harsh than I mean to but the point is, this isn't anything but MK trying to make a quick buck really. as far as I'm concerned, until the next real MK, midway got my money from UT3, a game actually worth the money.

Who said "you need to think like me" about it? hehe, I'm not suggesting you, or anyone do that. Ever.

And "grateful"? Again, like I'm saying, I'm not looking to any company as if what they do for a living is some sort of "blessing bestowed on it's loyal followers". That's ridiculous. Especially because we pay them to keep our attention on their product(they don't "hold the determining power" over their product, we do. We tell them what to make, by what we buy from them.).

So, "fan services" are the only things we could be grateful for at this point (cuz we're more likely to buy, if ___ is in the game, right?). Another thing that we could be grateful for, is fan interaction. Both of which they're doing right now. And I love watching that happen.

But, those are things that I do think contains some value about MK (or any company, really). The fact that they seem to listen to, and really want to over market to the core fanbase. Says they're paying attention, and that they know that we will sell the game for them if we're hyped about it (Hector is something like a "cheerleader" for them...nothing wrong with that, cuz he's trying to get paid.). Which is great, and I think they should be doing these things on a regular basis. I think we should see them "come out of hiding" (so to speak) if their product is not getting the attention they think it deserves.

But that's the kind of thing I'm "grateful" for. When they actively show that they really do listen to fan demand, like they have been over this new game, and games in the past. I don't know if you notice this, but it's more apparent for this game than it has been for previous MK titles. But like I say, that's the kind of thing I can appreciate. Because for one, it's beneficial on both sides of the spectrum. Fan morale goes up, and they (hopefully)get to successfully expand solicitation of their game through their own fanbase -- affecting more people's interest in the game.

Good. Great. Fantastic....but none of that means I "gotta" buy it. lol

Now, I'm not gonna sit up here, and say that "I hope this game tanks". I'd never say that. But I will avidly disagree with something I don't like in a more effective way. And if I want to, voice my opinion on the matter in a civil manner. Like my answer to this threads question.

I'm also not blind to what's going on either though. This game got a terribly bad initial reception...So? *Poof* Out come the podcast, 8 character renders, and the other news updates. Kiddin me? They are definitely on their job about marketing this game..lol (which is a compliment btw) and it's all entertainment to me. So I can appreciate that.

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What I don't appreciate about it? I'll summarize and state it again. It's that they now HAVE to "effectively sell me" on something I never wanted to have to consider not buying in the first place(hell, I would have preferred to pre-oder "MK8" without giving it much thought). It's like being told "you're gonna eat it whether you like it or not" as a consumer. They now HAVE to "convince" me that buying something I wanted last year is a good idea, because this game has such a bad idea attached to it. iMo

As well, I'm not convinced. But that's not the biggest issue within my position on this. Because I'm forgiving, and I wanted to give them a chance to show me what they were trying to do with this game.....What's really disturbing to me, is that I'm not impressed with "an MK game". How is that possible, when I'm a die-hard fan of MK?

Why is it possible, that I notice stuff used in the last three games, are in this game? Without even playing it? My eyes do not deceive me...and I am a completely healthy and fully functioning human being.

Couple months ago, I might have ranted on about how "new" the next game was gonna be..ect. But come to find out, it's not? Wow. And you don't even need a "trained eye" to see what I'm talking about.

And THAT - - that's never, ever ever EVER anything to "be grateful", or "be happy" about. Ya'dig?

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Lastly here...

You see, what you're missing is, I'm not the guy that's trolling around hating on this game(don't care that much). Nor am I trying to influence anyone to "think like I think". What I'm doing is, voicing that I'm not buying anything, from any company, for the reasons some of you post that you'll buy this game.

All of a sudden the marketing strategy becomes a reason to buy a video game. No, not me dude. I don't care about the marketing strategy.....I care about the game. ahaha..

I just think that the claim to "loyalty to MK", or the good 'ol "I must be in denial, I say I won't now, but I will buy it" claims are ridiculous. They may work for your arguments against someone else....but not me.

Unfortunately it will be a long while, at least 2010, until we see MK back to normal.

if it bears the name mk and contains characters recognizable, ill buy it, im mk through and through, supermans, as much as i hate him, wont stop that!!!!

i even bought mythologies and special forces

Man, this is quite a defensive thread here. People who say they'll buy it feel like they're getting hated on because people that aren't buying at telling them why. People that aren't buying the game are getting defensive because the people that are buying the game are either insinuating that a "real" MK fan would want this game or that their reasons for not wanting the game are lame or somehow false.

I'll tell you why I'm not buying this game. This is just me... My own opinion:

Here goes,

When the game was first announced and the trailer came out, I was furious. I thought that the game looked terrible, had recycled animations, and I hated the concept overall.

Since then, I've calmed down considerably and I even started to think that the game looked pretty interesting. Enough so that I'd probably buy it since after all it does have some of my favorite MK characters and the DC characters could add a new and interesting twist. Plus, they took out alot of the excess junk that I hated about the last few MK games. No gigantic, horrifically lame konquest mode. No dial a combos... YES!! Finally the MK team has decided to move away from a janky old system that wasn't really even fun back in the mid 90's when MK 3 came out.

But ya know what? And this is my biggest issue. The more I thought about it.... The more screens and videos and interviews I've seen and heard, the more I've come to realize that this game just isn't for me. I loved MK1 and MK2, but I'm sick of mindlessly backing a horse that, while strong in the past, simply can't keep up in terms of innovation, graphics and most importantly, gameplay, with the Soul Calibur's of the world.

Sure, I'll rent it, and who knows, maybe I'll change my mind. This isn't a "I hate Midway for not making the game that I would personally make." It's just that the game looks kinda stuck in the past. The characters look all stiff, the animations still look either silly or out of place, and the overall gameplay just looks like it'll be a little better than the previous MK games, but still not nearly close to being on the level of modern 3D fighters in terms of depth and freedom.

When Midway can make that kind of an MK game. One that rivals if not exceeds modern 3D fighters, I'll be waiting in line, camped out by Gamestop the day the game comes out. Until then, I'm just not very excited for this game. Sure, some of that might still be the let down of going from "the next MK game will be completely new, it'll be dark and we're starting over from scratch" to "hey, the game looks and plays somewhat similar to past MK games, there are no new MK characters, and if nothing else, the fighting has received it's own gimmicks that used to be reserved for outside of the actual fighting, but you can pit Sub Zero against Batman!"

I dunno, nothing against Boon, Midway, DC, or anyone that's looking forward to this game, but I tried, I really did, and I just can't get excited about this direction for my favorite series. To me, this doesn't revitalize MK. The game, in and of itself, is a gimmick. Until Midway can make an MK with a deep and rewarding gameplay experience, it'll continue to die and be looked at by the media and hardcore fighting fans as the red headed stepchild of the modern genre.

Again, sorry to be harsh, but that's just the way that I, an MK fan since the very beginning that has owned every MK game except for Special Forces, see MK vs DC. I hope I'm wrong. But if the last few games have taught me anything it's this... If the little voice in the back of my head thinks it's crap, all of the hoping to the contrary isn't going to amount to anything because the little voice is usually right.

Baraka407, that was an excellent post on the subject! You've described my feelings on the matter almost exactly. I was mad at first too, then thought it might be good, but as time's going on the game is just proving to me to not really be interesting. I too will play it, but I'm sure I won't like it. I'm too geared up to find out what happened after Armageddon, which characters won't be coming back, where the story goes, etc. This game feels too much like a publicity stunt or a cash grab. I don't fault the team for wanting to try something different, but I think it was at the wrong time. We were on the verge of a new design for MK, and now we have this side project, and then it all gets re-designed again for the new MK. Just feels like a waste of time! P.S. Love your Lego fatality!

I too agree with Baraka407. Gameplay is #1 in my heart. Next comes characters. Then, after that, come adventure sequences, and things like Krypts, Online, and secrets.

But to get back on topic. How do we know that the next game won't turn out to be another VS game? This is frustrating beyond belief.

Lets see...

I could say "Any true MK fan would skip this because its not the real MK" and get flamed by the "Fake MK fans"

OR say

"Any true MK fan would play this because it is still MK,no matter how ridiculous it sounds or looks" and get flamed by the "True" mk fans

But i can also say my own opinion:

"This game looks great,some MK characters and DC charecters look great (yes,i would play as DC charecters), some charecters from both sides look like rubbish (Jax,Shang Tsung,Joker).

Legend
"= Comment,or sarcastic remark

MK is the kind of game that you'll find in Gamestop for a third of the price within a year. I would not pay 60 dollars for this game, but I will have to pick it up because as an MK fan I will pretty much purchase all the crap they release.

Thanks for the feedback MK and Outworld. I just can't shake the feeling that this game simply isn't all that appealing to me. Which is such a strange feeling considering the fact that I've always been such a huge fan of the last several games.

I recently got a CD from a buddy of mine that has a couple hundred Genesis games on it for the Dreamcast. I know that he got it from a friend, but I don't know anything beyond that. Regardless, I've popped it in a few times and I noticed that ALOT of my old favorites haven't aged well.

Madden 97 looks and plays horribly. It's hideous. Same goes for Altered Beast (I have no idea why that game ever held my attention for more than 2 minutes), Streets of Rage 2 and too many other games to recount here.

But then I played MK2, and I've gotta say. The game's look, music, characters, story, gameplay and even graphics are still top notch. It's just a fun game, from top to bottom even now.

I say this because the last few MK games, probably starting with the transition to 3D for MK4 has simply been, well, behind the times. MK Gold on Dreamcast came out after Tekken 3 on PS One and somehow the latter still seems to look better, play better, and overall seems to be more current in terms of technology and the advances in the fighting genre.

To tie that into todays terms, I see MK vs DC and while the graphics look alot better than when they first showed the game, it still doesn't look like it can hold a candle to Soul Calibur 4. Heck, it doesn't even look as good as DOA4, which was a launch title for 360 a few years ago.

Then I see the gameplay and the way that the combos and move lists overall so far look pretty limited, if not straight out of the last three MK games. Okay, 5 to 7 special moves per character? Great. How about a ton of ways to utilize those special moves in combos? Or how about a ton of regular moves that look cool so there really isn't even such a thing as "special moves" anymore?

Sure, teleports and projectiles will always be special moves, but moves like Sonya's handstand? Why not just make her an expert at Tae Kwon Do and give her 70 or 80 moves that allow her to use her legs in a range of things from kicks to throws?

This is what I don't understand about MK anymore. They don't evolve the series anymore and MK vs DC is a prime example. They add some bells and whistles to hide the fact that the gameplay is light years behind the standard bearers in the genre.

Personally, that frustrates me because I look at a game like MK2 and when it came out, graphically, gameplay-wise, heck everything from the secrets to the gore, I saw a game that was on the cutting edge of the genre, and it didn't need Superman, an adventure mode, a kart racer or more character sketches than any human could possibly care about to drive home the fact that it was a fantastic game.

It just was.

Outworld asked the "what if" that I think most die hard MK fans are fearing. What if MK9 is a VS game? For me? If the graphics and gameplay are up to par with, if not exceeding the current leaders in the genre, than it could be MK vs Killer Instinct, MK vs Street Fighter or whatever and I'll like it. I'd obviously LOVE for MK9 to be the gritty, completely new MK game that Ed Boon promised before MK vs DC was announced.

But if the game looks and plays like what I envision MK vs DC to look and play like, than that's it for me. I'll know by then that Ed Boon and his team at Midway have truly lost the pulse of their fans are simply desperate to make money for Midway to the point where they'd sacrifice quality as well as their core audience.

Of course, I haven't played MK vs DC yet. So who knows, maybe I'm wrong. But to me right now, the MK characters are all just more of the same and the DC characters, on the whole, don't really interest me one bit. I don't dislike them or whatever, but I just don't really see the point in trying to mash these series together. We saw this idea a long time ago when Marval and Capcom did it several times over in various incarnations.

I tried to give the game the benefit of the doubt, but I've seen just about every video and screenshot that I can get my hands on and while I've tried to be enthusiastic, after years of playing MK games, I can only still look at the movies/screens and say "what's the point?" Why make this game?

MK was getting stale again around Armageddon. So instead of doing that huge revamp that MK fans were practically drooling over, we get this? It's not a revamp. It's a bump in the road and I get the impression from alot of MK fans that it's something they can deal with while they're waiting, not something they're particularly excited for like with a typical MK sequel.

I'll give it every chance to impress me, but while MK was a benchmark for quality and overall fun factor in the genre for years, it fell a few notches in the transition to 3D for various reasons. The whole VS thing isn't the direction I'd want to see the franchise go, but I'll give it a rent when it comes out. To me, that's saying something.

I've reserved the next MK game since before MK2 came out in every game except for Special Forces. So yeah, this game, while somewhat promising, is still pretty underwhelming, especially if falling combat, a rockem sockem robots mode midfight and a test your might in midfight are the only innovations they're bringing to the genre. How about catching up to the party in things that the genre has had for over a decade now like characters with REAL unique fighting styles where every move or combo could be considered special or unique to that character?

Sorry, I'm prone to ranting...

Anyways, I really hope that the MK team can focus on MK9 when this is over with and give the fans what they really want, not just something they'll put up with because they get to throw a spear in next gen or find out who'd win in a fight, Batman or Sub Zero, because to be honest? I don't know anyone who's ever asked themself that question. But once it gets "answered' with this game, can MK fans finally get back to the series that they know and love?

Give MK fans something that reminds them of how awesome MK2 was in comparison to everything else out there. Innovate the genre, while making something that's got the style that we know, with a few characters that we love, and alot of new and high quality ideas working well together for a deep an engaging experience. It might sound like I'm asking for the world here, but if other series can do this, why not the series that routinely put its competition to shame back in the 2D era?