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bakuryu17
10/10/2014 03:48 PM (UTC)
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Hata-Kiri was lame imo. I would like to see Frienship retuns instead. If it really returns, I hope it's gonna be more epic and in a "warrior" sense of doing it. Not just like "Too bad, I lose, why not stab myself in the chest?!"
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10/10/2014 03:55 PM (UTC)
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sonyamkoriginal Wrote:

The favorite part of the players are the moments after the "Finish Him / Her". Two months ago you said MKX will bring back one of those classic finishes that fans love so much. Could you tell us which one would it be?

As a matter of contract, can not speak ...


Could you give us a hint then?

Yes I can give you a hint ... That kind of finisher that will be in Mortal Kombat X was never present in the arcade period of the series.
[Editor's Note: Do we have a Hara-Kiri?]


Brutalities.
Brutalities were never in the arcade versions, just the consoles.
Makes sense, and perfect if a Killer Instinct character is a special guest for the Xbox versions.
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10/10/2014 04:07 PM (UTC)
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Maybe allow the Hara Kiri when you win a battle 2-1... This way it seems that you were quite matched to one another and give the loser the chance to take their own life.

When you beat someone 2-0, no way you're gonna deny the victor his chance of ripping you apart. You've earned it then.

Other than that, I'm not really warming up to the idea of the Hara Kiri coming back.
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10/10/2014 04:32 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:

Lmao! A classic!

But don't get me wrong, i'd love to see hara-kiri's return simply for some good ole' Deception nostalgia. And there's nothing wrong with having some be a little more creative than a "neck snap" but there's a difference between eye catching and idiotic lol


In all seriousness though, Deception was my favorite MK game to date before MK9, so I'd be down for some nostalgia. I know the engine sucked but that game gave me such great memories. Mileena coming back, Kabal coming back, Sindel, Jade, Tanya, Smoke, Konquest mode, Chess Kombat, Puzzle Kombat. I loved everything about that game BUT Hara Kiris. I absolutely hated the idea. Found it pointless. I seriously hope they never ever return.
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10/10/2014 05:45 PM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
Fuck Hara Kiri

If someone wins, they have the right to finish you. End of story. None of this "Well I have one last chance to be a sore loser" shit. Take your defeat like a good sport.

Why in the fuck would we reward the loser?


THANK YOU. Couldn't have said it better myself.
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10/10/2014 06:01 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Lokheit Wrote:
Why not both? :P

Though Friendships might be hard to fit on ths dark atmosphere, but who knows. I think with some creativity they could be really funny.

Hara-Kiris I expect some creativity thrown there too, in Deception there were many that were a bit meh... (Scorpion really coudn't think about anything more brutal than just slapping his neck?). Hopefully we get each character using the full extent of their abilities for this and with the cinematic take they're using we could see some dramatism.


You just stated why Hara-Kiris were so stupid. Why in the hell would you kill yourself in the most brutal manner? You might as well have a fatality performed on you. Scorpion's imo was logical. It was fast, painless, and truly robbed the second player of a fatality.

All the others were just silly.

Out of all of them, Kenshi's was the true meaning of Hara Kiri.
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10/10/2014 06:47 PM (UTC)
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Ehm, as much as I want it to be it does not necessarily mean Hara Kiri's. Brutalities fit that category just as well since UMK3 on arcades had no brutalities
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DjangoDrag
10/10/2014 07:31 PM (UTC)
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I think a lot of you guys are missing the point of Hara Kiris. There are specifically designed to rob the winner of a "deserved" finish. They are there to make the winner mad and create drama. The actual historical purpose of Hara Kiris aside, when utilized they can add a little poke back at the winner to keep them from feeling too accomplished, and likely provoke a rematch.

Salt creates drama. Drama is interesting and in this case pretty funny. Dude gets bodied and the winner's like "Now I'm gonna swag out" when suddenly he doesn't get to do his fatality because the loser did his input faster. At that point it's actually a fair 50/50 game, albeit a petty one. It's just gonna give me some lolz so I'm in.

A lot of you guys are taking your finishers pretty seriously. Kinda weird.
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KenshiMaster16
10/10/2014 08:05 PM (UTC)
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I would absolutely love if Hara Kiri's came back into the fold. If not because they are demented and disturbing, then because the reaction at EVO if one is pulled off would be completely hilarious to watch. grin
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10/10/2014 08:08 PM (UTC)
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DjangoDrag Wrote:
Dude gets bodied and the winner's like "Now I'm gonna swag out" when suddenly he doesn't get to do his fatality because the loser did his input faster. At that point it's actually a fair 50/50 game, albeit a petty one.


No, it's not a fair 50/50 game. The winner usually has to move to a specific distance to do his input; the loser can do his right where he stands.

And, of course, the computer can do them instantaneously.
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KungLaodoesntsuck
10/10/2014 08:09 PM (UTC)
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DjangoDrag Wrote:
I think a lot of you guys are missing the point of Hara Kiris. There are specifically designed to rob the winner of a "deserved" finish. They are there to make the winner mad and create drama. The actual historical purpose of Hara Kiris aside, when utilized they can add a little poke back at the winner to keep them from feeling too accomplished, and likely provoke a rematch.

Salt creates drama. Drama is interesting and in this case pretty funny. Dude gets bodied and the winner's like "Now I'm gonna swag out" when suddenly he doesn't get to do his fatality because the loser did his input faster. At that point it's actually a fair 50/50 game, albeit a petty one. It's just gonna give me some lolz so I'm in.

A lot of you guys are taking your finishers pretty seriously. Kinda weird.


It's a matter of principle.

If I beat somebody they could at least give me the courtesy of getting to do a finisher. I earned it. That's the entire point of "Finish Him/Her". I know Fatalities get boring after the first week or so but in that first week I should be able to do a Fatality if I win.

And again, why should losing get rewarded? Since when is bad sportsmanship a good thing?

Oh, and if it's weird to like doing Fatalities when I win a match well then I'm one weird motherfucker.
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10/10/2014 08:13 PM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
DjangoDrag Wrote:
I think a lot of you guys are missing the point of Hara Kiris. There are specifically designed to rob the winner of a "deserved" finish. They are there to make the winner mad and create drama. The actual historical purpose of Hara Kiris aside, when utilized they can add a little poke back at the winner to keep them from feeling too accomplished, and likely provoke a rematch.

Salt creates drama. Drama is interesting and in this case pretty funny. Dude gets bodied and the winner's like "Now I'm gonna swag out" when suddenly he doesn't get to do his fatality because the loser did his input faster. At that point it's actually a fair 50/50 game, albeit a petty one. It's just gonna give me some lolz so I'm in.

A lot of you guys are taking your finishers pretty seriously. Kinda weird.


It's a matter of principle.

If I beat somebody they could at least give me the courtesy of getting to do a finisher. I earned it. That's the entire point of "Finish Him/Her". I know Fatalities get boring after the first week or so but in that first week I should be able to do a Fatality if I win.

And again, why should losing get rewarded? Since when is bad sportsmanship a good thing?


Think of it in possible tournament terms. If, say, it's a close match and everyone is pumped up and it ends in a nail-biter, it's a nice little consolation prize for the loser to admit defeat. Fighting games are all about rivalry. Hara Kiri's add to that. The general public (at least with my experience online with MK9) were never too bothered to learn the fatalities and I only ever experienced them with players who really really knew what they were doing and how to play the characters properly and fluidly so it's not like you'll be encountering them even 75% of the time. Most people just don't care enough.
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10/10/2014 08:31 PM (UTC)
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I welcome their return, but they have to make them WAY better than in MKD. Some of them were pretty stupid, while others quite gory (Kenshi, Dairou, Tanya).
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KungLaodoesntsuck
10/10/2014 08:39 PM (UTC)
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KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
Think of it in possible tournament terms. If, say, it's a close match and everyone is pumped up and it ends in a nail-biter, it's a nice little consolation prize for the loser to admit defeat. Fighting games are all about rivalry. Hara Kiri's add to that. The general public (at least with my experience online with MK9) were never too bothered to learn the fatalities and I only ever experienced them with players who really really knew what they were doing and how to play the characters properly and fluidly so it's not like you'll be encountering them even 75% of the time. Most people just don't care enough.


Fatalities are already a kind of "Fuck you", we don't need last minute spoilers to say that. Robbing a person of a finisher is like rage quiting when you're about to lose. That "I won't give you the satisfaction" attitude is childish.
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kungkang12
10/10/2014 09:02 PM (UTC)
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Why not both Hara Kiri and Brutalities?

Ok so in order to implement this NRS has to bring back the Mercy feature. What I was thinking could happen is when it says finish him/her you input a simple code like up down left right x or a (depending on the console). This gives the 5% health back and then the winner now has a shot at doing a brutality. This also gives the loser a chance to perform a Hara Kiri. The codes would be the same but the only way to do a Hara Kiri would be if the opponent used mercy.
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JadedReign
10/10/2014 09:19 PM (UTC)
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I'm surprised to see this kind of opposition to Hara Kiris. I didn't know it was that big of a deal to some of you. Color me surprised.
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10/10/2014 09:27 PM (UTC)
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5 Finisher Slots

1. Fatality
2. Fatality
3. Stage Fatality
4. BRUTALITY (Not everyone explode also include there X-Ray)
5. Hari Kara

Scorpion has 6 I really hope that every returning character get a re-imagined classic and the NEW fighters will just get 3 Fatalities
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10/10/2014 10:29 PM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
Think of it in possible tournament terms. If, say, it's a close match and everyone is pumped up and it ends in a nail-biter, it's a nice little consolation prize for the loser to admit defeat. Fighting games are all about rivalry. Hara Kiri's add to that. The general public (at least with my experience online with MK9) were never too bothered to learn the fatalities and I only ever experienced them with players who really really knew what they were doing and how to play the characters properly and fluidly so it's not like you'll be encountering them even 75% of the time. Most people just don't care enough.


Fatalities are already a kind of "Fuck you", we don't need last minute spoilers to say that. Robbing a person of a finisher is like rage quiting when you're about to lose. That "I won't give you the satisfaction" attitude is childish.


Childish? We're talking about MK here. You've seen a babalitiy, right?

Hara Kiris are hilarious, especially if the other person gets salty about it (you). You are the reason why they are so enjoyable. People getting all pissy because they felt they "deserved" something as inconsequential as a finishing move and they didn't get it. Talk about childish.
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KungLaodoesntsuck
10/10/2014 10:50 PM (UTC)
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DjangoDrag Wrote:
KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
Think of it in possible tournament terms. If, say, it's a close match and everyone is pumped up and it ends in a nail-biter, it's a nice little consolation prize for the loser to admit defeat. Fighting games are all about rivalry. Hara Kiri's add to that. The general public (at least with my experience online with MK9) were never too bothered to learn the fatalities and I only ever experienced them with players who really really knew what they were doing and how to play the characters properly and fluidly so it's not like you'll be encountering them even 75% of the time. Most people just don't care enough.


Fatalities are already a kind of "Fuck you", we don't need last minute spoilers to say that. Robbing a person of a finisher is like rage quiting when you're about to lose. That "I won't give you the satisfaction" attitude is childish.


Childish? We're talking about MK here. You've seen a babalitiy, right?

Hara Kiris are hilarious, especially if the other person gets salty about it (you). You are the reason why they are so enjoyable. People getting all pissy because they felt they "deserved" something as inconsequential as a finishing move and they didn't get it. Talk about childish.


Yeah I've seen Babalities. Done them plenty of times. But again, unlike Hara-Kiris they have to be earned. More so than Fatalities because you have to win the final round without blocking. If anything that's a fucking achievement.

If getting a rise out of people is how you get your kicks I think you need more things to fill out your day.
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10/10/2014 10:52 PM (UTC)
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Hara-Kiri's are quite possibly the worst finishers, ever. And not because they rob the winner of performing a fatality. They're the worst finishers because they're the most inane (and that's saying something).

By all means, kill your own character...I was going to do that very. same. thing. The fact that you did the deed rather than me is irrelevant. You're dead. And I'm not.

See, I don't see the "hurr hurr, I stolez yur glory by killing myself" factor. In all honesty, I should be thanking that player for giving my thumbs a nice rest while he murders himself for my amusement. smile
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10/10/2014 11:04 PM (UTC)
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I'm still going for Brutalities, but if it is Hara Kiri's:

Fuck it.

You keep doing those tired ass Fatalities that's been seen to death (nopunattended).

I'm gonna help you see these tired ass Hara Kiri's. Yes?

Sounds fair to me. Be grateful that the loser doesn't ragequit and rob you of your precious W/L ratio, like it really means anything these days.

I'm definitely doing it on any motherfucker who wants to be the son of Cyrax, Kenshi and Rain online.
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jdnice11
10/10/2014 11:59 PM (UTC)
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IF Hara-Kiris do come back, i would be cool with that, but they would have to be some good ass one!
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mkwhopper
10/11/2014 12:01 AM (UTC)
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@Lao: Actually dude, Babalities are more of a "fuck you".


Personally I am fine if Hara Kiris are in. It's a good way to troll people if I lose
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SmashK
10/11/2014 12:08 AM (UTC)
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Perhaps Hara-Kiri's are being used as a preventative measure to discourage disconnects in online play.

Whatever the case, I always thought Hara-Kiri's were a perfect fit for MK. So I'm fine if they come back. However, I'd much prefer a brand new "ality," and perhaps we may still get one.
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10/11/2014 12:13 AM (UTC)
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I can't believe in 2014 people still get riled up over them not being able to perform a fatality, or still think it's some kind of super special or humillating move like we're in the arcade days.
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