I'm just irritated that because I don't like Kung Jin, it's always assumed it's because he's gay. I don't like his attitude, I don't like his game play, I don't like the fact Kung Lao has a relative period. Him being gay is not the issue, but the mature posters online always assume it is.

You make absolutely no sense. How the fuck does celebrating the first gay character(which is a GOOD thing) equals MK9 Mileena? Wtf? You know what- Just leave it alone, you don't have to break that portion down to me any further as I don't have the brain cells to waste.

Neatherealm Studios aren't stupid, they knew implementing a gay character in the game would cause a lot of headlines, publicity, and attention because it's the first openly gay MK character- there's no way you can get around it. They did it in an extremely tasteful way but those who are happy and celebrating the fact the series has a gay character aren't demoting him to a "Gay dude"- they're excited at the fact that a character is representing a huge portion of the fanbase.

As I said before, of all my friends none of them gives a fuck about Kung-Jin being gay- they love his gameplay, his arrows, and his kick-ass fatalities- the fact the he's gay is an added bonus.

I'm gay and guess what? I liked Kung-Jin even before all this. I loved his snarky attitude and fell in love with it, him being gay just upped his cool factor.

But there's absolutely nothing wrong with celebrating the fact that he's gay- because he is.

People like you seem to be uptight and uncomfortable with the subject especially with all that "Agenda" speak.

Nobody cares.

Edit: I might have misinterpreted your post and now I look like a cunt ̄\_(ツ)_/ ̄

Preach

You sir are the champion of this thread today! Being gay as well, it's AWESOME to finally have a character to identify with. However, even if he were straight, I'd love the character.

I kick major ass with his Bojutsu variation, his pop up and combo potential is one of the best in the game!

How many more times does this need to be clarified before it sinks in? Proclivities means a routine [i.e work out everyday. Or in Jin's case he was a thief] not anything sexual related [unless you have sex alot] Kang was alluding to Jin's activities as a Thief.

Just because some fans here want to take that as a knock at Jin's sexuality does not mean its true.

I am glad the finally added a gay character.

The only problem I have is that he is very forgettable and plain..

I wish they had made another character gay like: Reiko, Rain, Mavado, or even Drahmin... A character with a better look and story.

Exactly. A few days ago I had a friend text me "Hey, I just found out Kung-Jin was gay! Sweet!" and this is from someone who was already loving the character and kicking ass with him(he got to story mode a little late as you can see LOL).

When I'm at work with my co-workers, most of whom main him, his sexuality never comes up. So I have no idea what that dude was talking about Kung-Jin ONLY being defined by his sexuality.

That's bestiality...

If there was still any doubt...

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No it's not. Onaga is a humanoid beast thing.

So it's just Quasi-Bestiality.

It's a nothing thing. It's not an issue and should never be one, because Kung Jin has far more depth than MK9 Mileena ever will despite people (probably many folks who have never even seen the game, let alone played it) wanting to make out a gay Mortal Kombat character as some sort of idol to worship.

Just because we're gay does not make it some sort of super special awesome attribute that gives us some sort of super power. It doesn't. It does, however, make men seem a whole lot more appealing sexually.

Quite frankly, I don't even believe you're gay, because you're sitting here on a soapbox wanting everyone to acknowledge how awesome being gay is. For you, for everyone around you, and for everyone who is looking at your posts.

You're damn right I'm uncomfortable about it, just like I'm uncomfortable when people want to brag about how furry they are or how much poon they get. You're relegating people down to sexual orientation simply to feel validated because you are uncomfortable about it.

You shouldn't have to have validation if it's something you think is ordinary. Just like how it was before all of these stupid articles popping up wanting to idolize him for daring to be gay, like it's a problem. For fuck's sake, no one should care because it's not a damn problem. There have been gay video game characters for fucking ever now, but every time this happens you immediately get a tribe of folks (most of whom themselves aren't even gay) set up shop to paint an image of progressive exposure even though it's 2015 and people have been out for decades at this point.

I'm glad Netherrealm was subtle about because the vocal fanbase sure as hell isn't.

I literally just spit coffee all over my monitor. I admit, you're funny.

I think the whole point of the article, and the praise Netherrealm is getting, is because that's exactly what they are not doing. Kung Jin is a great character, but his sexuality is not his entire character.

I do agree with many of your points though. This whole thing is an issue which shouldn't be an issue in the first place and every facet of it is annoying.

I heard about the gay reference before I actually got to play the game and when I came to that point in story mode the first thing I thought was "okay, I can see why everyone is saying that", but like many people have said, there is no clear explanation whether "his heart desires" a man or a woman, and as celibacy is a fact of monk life, it is entirely possible that it is not meant to be a gay reference. But just the fact that it COULD be is cool, so I'm happy with it either way.

I am in a similar boat. I expressed my dislike for him back when we first saw his variation breakdown in the kombat kast but now that he is confirmed gay people want to think im a homophobe or something lol

If you heard that exchange with Raiden and Kung Jin and didn't immediately realize he was gay....I mean, come on.

That's an impressive lack of ability to read between the lines.

But fuck it, it's cool. I'm a straight male, but the fact MK was able to pull off introducing a a gay character with subtlety who was also in no way a stereotype WITHOUT making a big deal about it is laudable.

If people are so threatened by that idea that they have to look for any way to deny the possibility of it, the world is only going to get harder for you.

Aside from his dialogue with Raiden, it is pretty obvious with Kung Jin's intros with Liu Kang and mileena that back up his orientation. So saying this was a 'post game decision' is pretty fucking dumb.

Nice article, loved the line about "why does it matter? Because it doesn't matter?" which is all too true of what relevance orientation should hold in today's society.

And if you think this is the only thing that defines him and strips away his character, then that sounds like a personal problem. I'd suggest opening your mind a little more so to offer a broader character depth other than tunnel visioning Kung Jin in bed.

Im super glad NRS decided to go this route (never thought it'd happen).
My only gripe is I wish Kung Jin would have had erron blacks alt LOL

Would a lesbian in MK be any different?

I don't really see what all the fuss is about this. They gave a wink and a nod to their first gay character in a handful of throwaway lines of dialogue and it more than likely will never be referenced again in a big way. It was only added because he's a new character who needed to be cemented and relationships played a big part in the story of Mortal Kombat X; friendships, rivalries, romance, ect ect.

If anything, the line of dialogue in question from Story Mode's purpose wasn't to announce that he's gay, it merely was supposed to hint at it while its main point being that we're supposed to feel sorry for the character and the dilemma's he's facing due to self-doubt, family issues, issues of trust with Raiden over Kung Lao's death.... That was the point.

In a Story Mode that was plagued with problems even though i enjoyed it, there were shining moments of gold in the cutscenes and dialogue; that Kung Jin/Raiden scene was one of them for me. It was one of the only moments in the game where I felt for the characters involved and slightly redeemed Raiden in my eyes for his touching sentiment.

i find this article completely stupid...

"It matters because it doesn't matter."

It mattered enough to write one of the longest editorials in MKO's history.

To clarify some things:

On Twitter it was confirmed the hints at his sexuality are in fact he is gay. Reread this thread if you must find it.

It obviously mattered to NRS enough to add a gay character in that...
1. They added hints (which by the way could also mean due to him being a thief or the fact monks have to refrain from relationships)
2. When the hints were picked up on, at first, they waited to directly answer the question and rather note how observant fans were (google that)
3. After it sparked both an outcry and social acceptance they took to Twitter to answer the direct question with a Yes.

That's the ONLY confirmation we have that he is gay. The in-game hints could elude to anything else.

He is NOT "openly gay." Nowhere in the game does he say ANYTHING DIRECT about his sexuality. Or any other character. Yes, with anything any more, directness is a must, otherwise you make an assumption and can entirely make an ass of your self. Plus, a lot of straight guys in the military are all the time making gay passes at each other (happens in football too). Does that always mean these guys are gay? Nope - they're just having fun.

In fact, I thought everyone agreed already that he dropped hints and that's what all started this crap?

D'Vorah and the kiss of death. I don't care what two females officially kiss but just because two women do kiss in any way does not make them gay (it's the same for guys, although guys are more at odds with that if they're not gay). I am not understanding the need to affirm everything as gay - that was a dangerous trend offsetting the millennium and frankly it has hampered gay media (a great example is the fact LOGO fails to deliver new and original programming and had to go as far as to air GOLDEN GIRLS episodes, that had nothing to do with lesbianism, just because fans are liking it. Eventually LOGO will just be another channel whose history rooted in gay media and like TNN, which used to be only country music, will turn to deliver more of different programming).

Irrelevancy - It's irrelevant whether or not his being gay was originally planned - it's out. If it were suggested due to overwhelming response and pressure from the social/cultural aspects of today then it can also be said of the same if it were planned, since social and cultural aspects have shaped video games.

Disagreement doesn't make anyone else less gay... Whoever questioned the other person's sexuality because he disagreed doesn't make his points irrelevant - maybe you're so insecure about feeling the pressures to be gay because you convinced yourself for so long you were that if it were to be found out you're not actually gay and just "gay for play" or "gay for ok" you could lose some of your friends and support system. In fact this echoes the gay trend of the millennium where every gay person suggested the gay lifestyle to non-gays.

Food for thought.

Fair enough. I also think it's a stretch, but I can see where some could have thought the opposite. I agree, however, that the context, when taken as a whole, plainly points to the conclusion most of us (and the article) arrived at.

"It matters because it doesnt matter" refers to the confines of Kung Jin in the game and his relationships/friendships with other characters and the impact his orientation has on the overall story which is zero.

And that's why it matters in terms of the message it conveys. It's about acceptance and being treated normally, which is the end goal any lgbt community member wants.



and for the record, just to repost the other hints from character intros:

Lui Kang's intro dialogue:

Kung Jin: You never could accept me!
Liu Kang: I am aware of your proclivities.
Kung Jin: Wow, thanks for the reassurance!

proclivities: a tendency to choose or do something regularly; an inclination or predisposition toward a particular thing.

Mileena's intro dialogue:

Mileena: Let's see you. (sexual undertone)
Kung Jin: 'fraid you're not my type. (sarcastic undertone)
Mileena: I see no reason to spare you. (she cant seduce him, he must go)

but if you still wish to believe this intro's are about other things as well, then who knows.

It is pretty funny that everyone says "gay" or "homosexual" but if you all remember in the story he is basically a thief and when Kung says they won't accept him he was actually saying that they won't accept a thief.