I thought they handled it well.
It was nice having a gay character having being gay not be their defining personality trait.
Kudos to NRS!

At this point you're just trolling. I'm gay, and I'm married to my amazing husband. Yet, there's nothing about me that would indicate I am gay. Most people are shocked when they find out. I don't run around saying "heyyyyy gurl!" to everyone, so it's not obvious. If people find out I'm gay, then so be it. I don't hide it yet I don't shout it from the rooftops, so why should NRS have to shout it out to make it legit?

What do you want to further prove it? A rainbow colored fireball? All of your points are completely invalid, small minded and misinformed. Judging by the response of everyone else here, you're definitely the odd man out.

Don't really care if I'm the odd man out as long as I'm speaking the truth. My points are completely valid but I doubt you even read them since you said "What do you want to further prove it? A rainbow colored fireball?".

I've already made it pretty clear that I would have appreciated if there was an actual indication he is gay, there is zero indication outside the "Whom your heart desires" which was said to me before and yet I'm not gay.

A little mention about it in the concept art info would have been good and at the same time showed without a doubt that they truly intended Kung Jin to be gay.

I'm only wondering about the possibility but damn, you are acting like I'm trying to steal Kung Jin away from you and the gay MK Community, I'm not saying Kung Jin shouldn't be gay, all I'm doing is putting the facts in front of me and looking at them.

1. NRS's writing team are obviously not that Subtle.
2. There is nothing to indicate he is truly gay which is why A LOT of people were still not believing it's true up until it was confirmed.
3. I see no reason for them not to put it in the concept art, like the reason they went this direction just like they talked about the reason they went the mummy way with Ermac.

You can be clear but not obvious and if you think that you can't, then you are the "small-minded" person.

Did you ever hear the expression that if you hear hoof beats in Central Park it's probably not a zebra? To me, Liu Kang's and Raiden's lines all add up to him being gay. Yes you could make excuses for how they could mean something else, but I find those excuses very loose; like claiming that it's a zebra in the park, not a horse. Yes, you could interpret that as Kung Jin being sexually active with a woman, or desiring a woman despite being a monk (both of which would also apply to Liu Kang, so I don't see why he'd complain). It just makes more sense, and hinges on a less contrived explanation, that Kung Jin is gay, thinks the Shaolin won't accept that, that Raiden is accepting, and Liu Kang is a homophobe. Otherwise, the explanation is that Kung Jin likes a woman that the Shaolin aren't okay with (which is unlikely, because Liu Kang had been in a relationship with Kitana), and that he's also sexually active with said woman (as referenced by Liu Kang's line regarding "proclivities"), and worried the monks will find out, and that Liu Kang has some major problem with sex; and that the specific woman in question is never mentioned, and we have to just assume she exists. Saying that he's gay makes TOO much sense.

Also, you still haven't answered why NRS would even bother mentioning his sexual orientation in concept art. Even with the little bios they add in the art, maybe they didn't think his sexual orientation was important enough to include in that concept art. Did they mention that Takeda's was straight in his concept art? No? Then Takeda must not be straight, or they would've mentioned it. Also, they could've decided he was gay AFTER they made the character art. Maybe they came up with it while writing the script.

There's an easy solution to this. I don't have a Twitter, but perhaps someone here that does can Tweet NRS or Boon and flat out ask if it was planned, of just an afterthought based on Jin's conversation with Raiden.

All in all, it STILL seems that you're grasping at straws for reasons for him to not be gay. Makes you look foolish.

Exactly, only we are not only hearing hoofs we are hearing meows coming from the park as well therefore we assume it's a cat and a dog in the park, turns out it's a human with using sound effects.

This is this argument so I'll end it here by answering you.

You yourself admitted that it could be either one, so thanks for being at least honest unlike the other people. We can't know for sure if they were planning on it or it was something out of reaction but like I said, I find it weird that there is nothing to show or at least indicate he is, It feels like he was planned to be a normal character and it feels like they didn't even bother with his sexuality, it feels like his sexuality whether straight or not was only intended to be an obstacle for him not joining the Shaolin, up until people started talking about him being gay.

I personally feel like he wasn't intended to be gay, can I prove it 100%? Not really but I can show some facts that point to it like the fact that he doesn't seem gay at all. I'm not looking for a "Lisp" because I have friends that are gay and I know they are not like that, they are normal but you can usually tell when a gay person is gay, at least I can tell.

In their concept arts they usually explain why they went a certain direction with a character like the reason they went the mummy way with Ermac.

I'd imagine if you have such a different and NEW character to the MKU you'd mention WHY you went that direction or you'd at least mention the direction.

Imagine if NOBODY started the whole "Is Kung Jin gay" thing, that means we would never know and therefore they failed at adding a gay character in MKX.

Usually when there is a gay character that'd make it clear he is gay, not obvious, clear. I'm not saying stereotype him, I'm just saying it doesn't feel like he is gay what so ever.

Like I said, this argument can do for days and I'm honestly getting tired of going in a loop.

Whether it was planned or not is something up in the air, I believe it wasn't planned and you believe it was. Good for you. End of argument :D.

It took them nearly TWENTY YEARS to hook up Sonya and Johnny Cage officially. The first official instance we ever really got was this:

They can be plenty subtle if they want. They were subtle and coy about plenty of other topics.


Not believing it was true sounds more like denial to me that a lack of proof. I'm not gay, but having had three gay roommates, I was QUITE familiar with the methods they used in the story telling and with the banter used between Liu Kang and Kung Jin during their intros. I missed it the first time, but the moment I paused to reflect on it even I realized "oh, that's what Raiden was talking about".

They confirmed it shortly after, but I had strong suspicions. It was subtle. They didn't have to have him come out in a rainbow frock and say "hey girlfriend" to Cassie with a lips to get the point across... and I'm glad they didn't.


Because his character art has nothing to do with his sexuality. You don't see them talking about how they tried hard to make Jacqui heterosexual in her costume choice or talk up her relationship with Takeda in the concept art... because that stuff didn't matter.


I put two and two together. HUNDREDS of people did. It was obvious to me, clear as day, without being beaten over the head by it.

Kung Jin is gay.

It's not a big deal. It shouldn't be a big deal. It hopefully won't become a big deal.

If people want to pretend he's not gay and that Raiden was talking about Kung Jin's love of Spongebob instead, they can keep right on believing that.

He definitely plays for the other team.

Fans have been harking about this for years. I'm glad they finally sent a nod in their direction. Not only that, but we got an interracial relationship as well. Which is something I've heard fans ask for.

There was a lot of experimentation in this game. Testing the waters a bit, and I'm glad they decided to do so in this manner. Subtle, yet, to the point, but not overwhelming.

That whole scene with Raiden is one of my favorites in story mode. It was heartfelt, genuine, and actually made me like Raiden a LOT more. It was also something I could connect with personally, which is always great for the immersion process. I get teary watching that part tbh.

"There lies ahead a brighter path. One that will truly honor your ancestors. One that is worthy of you."

So. Good.

Ah, confirmation at last. He`s still cool shit.

We`ve come a long way from being the scum of the earth, corrupting childrens with bloody violence.



Ka-Tra

I am a Buddhist (Theravada) . A thief is who violate the second topic of the Five Precepts (of Buddhism) The Five Precepts is the primary precepts for general Buddhists whereas the monks must follow 227 precepts. Kung Jin can not follow the primary precept, so this may make him be worry about living with the monks.

Sorry for my bad English.

Get it gurl!

I was truthfully more worried about the anti-gay extreme side blowing this out of proportion, but on other sites (not this one, yet) the opposite is true - I've been seeing extremists on the pro-gay side proclaiming "THAT'S IT?! IT'S NOT ENOUGH!" or "THAT'S NOTHING, HE NEEDS A ROMANCE SUB PLOT!" and of course "ITS NOT REAL ENOUGH UNLESS HE GETS A SEX SCENE!".

Given the general makeup of the MK fanbase I thought it would cause tremendous backlash, or a deluge of dipshits completely unable to handle the situation. I'm shocked beyond belief to see a large number of MK players actually taking the same stance I am:

"He's gay. Cool. Moving on."

It adds to his character. It makes him a tad more interesting. I'm glad it was just a subtle mention to his character, and that's it...it didn't have to get blown out of proportion. Even the Jacqui/Takeda thing was subtle...they weren't making out or humping each other ragged. Johnny and Sonya? There's barely a hint of intimacy - we know they have a daughter but her conception didn't need to be shown. That's how it should be - not in your face.

People need to stop defining themselves by sexuality, and just define themselves by the content of their character and who they are. Applause to NRS for succeeding in that - Kung Jin's sexuality is a footnote to his overall character. As it should be.

Yes - but now watch the other side of it -

"MORTAL KOMBAT CORRUPTING YOUTH - FIRST WITH VIOLENCE, NOW WITH HOMOSEXUALITY".

It'll be there before we know it, sadly.

Clickbait title with the only circumstantial evidence being the throwaway exchange. There has been no formal confirmation or introduction to such a thing.

Ironically, making a long-winded article about it directly draws attention to it, really making this whole scenario no better than if Kung Jin had directly said he was homosexual. That's the funny thing about agendas that label themselves as trying to progress normality, because now it's not so normal when you have to shine a spotlight onto it.

Actually, NRS confirmed he was gay when asked about that so called "throwaway exchange". Just because there was no formal introduction in the game doesn't mean the dialogue's meaning changes.

He's gay and that's that, confirmed by the studio that created him. Furthermore, regarding what you say about an "agenda", is it truly that horrible to ask for equal representation in all media outlets given the fact that we're equal members of society? Would you have said the same thing to Dr. Martin Luther King when he was preaching his "agenda" of racial equality?

I think not.

Anybody who thought that line could be referring to a "woman" is a stone cold FOOL.

Why would they randomly have Kung-Jin worry about the fact that the Shaolin wouldn't accept his love for a woman?'


Secondly, who the fuck is this mysterious woman that they wouldn't accept? What in the fuck would that have to do with anything?

Now- Him meaning a MAN makes complete sense. It's a man, he's a homosexual, the Shaolin may not accept a homosexual in his mind- the point of it? It lets players know, oh ok, he's gay in a subtle way without him twerking to IT'S RAINING MEN!

Seriously, I can't believe someone literally said "OMGZ THEY MADE HYMZ GAY CUZ PPL ASSUMED ITZ!!!1111"

No slow one, you just fucking suck at context clues.

Kung Jin is gay as shit because anyone who is paying attention to even minor bits of dialogue can pick up on it. It's a throwaway exchange because it's never brought up again.

However, NRS never formally confirmed he was gay, because it gives the wrong impression. Not even in Twitter comments did they explicitly call out to this. It's the same wrong impression they wanted to avoid that articles like this point out front and center.

It's not horrible to ask for equal representation in all media outlets due to life being that way. It is, however, quite horrible that people will wave a flag around like it's the very definition of a person's character when it should not be.

No will ever give a shit about Kung Jin being a really good archer, a Shaolin monk, a thief who turned a new leaf or the guy who was able to kick Kotal's ass all by himself. The proclaimed new emperor of Outworld was defeated by this guy one-on-one.

Instead, he'll be forever known as the character who is gay in Mortal Kombat, because that's what everyone who wants to push this agenda wanted everyone else to see. Now that's all we get.

Good job, guys.

There ARE other signs. In an interaction with Mileena, he says she isnt his type.

And what exactly is wrong with people celebrating the fact that he's gay? What is also wrong with him being known as the first gay character?

What is so "evil" about this supposed "Agenda" you speak of?

Most of the mainstream players I know thinks he's a cool and fun character to play as, him being gay is just a cool plus.

So break it down to me- What is this "Agenda" you speak of.

I agree with almost everything in the article. Well said and written.

That said, real shaolin monks (non-MK) have to refrain from any type of relations, so Jin's comments COULD have refered to a woman. However, I really thought it meant he was gay the second I heard it. And I had zero problem with it. Very well done.

Point I asked in another thread:

What exactly constitutes Homosexual activity, when plenty of Women take it up the ass or down their throats?



Ka-Tra

Yeah I get what you're saying, no matter how they handled it there would be people upset/mad about it though so its w.e to me lol

For the record I am personally cool with how it was handled :)

Everything is wrong with it because it's literally stripping away at a character to make who he wants to sex up his defining character trait.

You know how everyone got up in arms when Mileena's character was reduced to an infantile hussy in MK9?

That's what celebrating Kung Jin as being just a gay dude amounts to. MK9 Mileena. Are we already treading backwards two games into this chronology with character development?

No it could not. Let's say for funzies Kung-Jin WAS referring to a woman- why would he think they wouldn't accept his attraction or love for a female? Yes, shaolin monks(well the real ones at least) do refrain from any type of relationships, but why wouldn't they accept the fact that he has feelings for a woman? That's a stretch, if Kung-Jin was referring to a woman or fearful that they wouldn't accept his relationship with one- where is that woman? Who is this secret woman Kung-Jin is having a relationship with that he doesn't think the shaolin would accept? What's her role in all of this?

Besides, why would Raiden reply the way he did? If all of this was about Kung-Jin being scared that the Shaolin wouldn't accept him having a relationship, why wouldn't Raiden address that clearly instead of say pretty much that it doesn't matter? No, he couldn't have been referring to a woman it makes absolutely no sense. I know you were just tossing that out there but I just had to dissect that.

It has to be about his attraction to MEN. That makes the most sense no matter how many people can't understand it. Kung-Jin liking men makes him a homosexual- he's fearful if rather or not the shaolin will accept a homosexual which makes Raiden reply sensible.