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iceangelmkx
09/07/2005 04:15 AM (UTC)
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If I only had to pick one character that I hate and want to frickin die and new come back (sorry, had to say that tongue) is Darrius, pretty much for the same reason everyone said.
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LadyRaiden
09/07/2005 07:29 AM (UTC)
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Top three characters I never want to see again.... (Note: I'm not including so called hidden characters. Since you don't have to see them unless you really work at it.)

1. Li Mei--A Mileena wanna-be that never should have been introduced in the first place.

2. Bo Rai Cho--The dirty old man stereotype was already old before he came around.

3. Liu Kang--Enough with the turkey man with no personality.
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MyQueenSindel
09/07/2005 07:53 PM (UTC)
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Chrome Wrote:
Sindel: very bad design. Ugly in MK3, uglier in MK:D. No innovation or gain, Sindel has no obvious long-term goal, what makes her a episodic charac-ter. And a bad one too.

You know, the second I saw this thread, I just knew at the same second "Chrome is going to say Sindel" Surprise surprise. But I'm not offended of anything. People are entitle to their own opinion.

I think that Midway went downhill with new characters in deception, and I dont want any of them
stryker
hsu hao
drahmin
fujin
kai
or Shinnok to ever return

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KaizuDragon
09/07/2005 08:40 PM (UTC)
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MyQueenSindel Wrote:
Chrome Wrote:
Sindel: very bad design. Ugly in MK3, uglier in MK:D. No innovation or gain, Sindel has no obvious long-term goal, what makes her a episodic charac-ter. And a bad one too.

You know, the second I saw this thread, I just knew at the same second "Chrome is going to say Sindel" Surprise surprise. But I'm not offended of anything. People are entitle to their own opinion.


If you weren't offended, you wouldn't have commented on that in the first place.

I won't name names, but I wouldn't want to see most of the "fillers" from MK: DA and MK: D make a return. I say bring back more of the classics, Ermac included.
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09/07/2005 08:52 PM (UTC)
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In this thread everyone has their own opinion, ok? Alright then, time for my list.

Character I Want To Never See Again

Jarek: like the others said, a Kano ripoff with no story of his own.

Sindel: she basically already done what she was meant to do, time to move on.

Kobra: like the others said, a Ken ripoff.

Havik: A stupid character that should have never saw the light of day.

Sheeva: Already proved her purpose.

Shao Kahn: If he is another main boss i'm gonna furious if not, then its alright.

Shujinko: A moron that was shoved down our throats

Stryker: No purpose at all. Whats his storyline?

Mokap: A bad excuse for a hidden character

Blaze: see mokap

Meat: see mokap

Bo Rai Cho: A drunken old fart is not what i'm looking for in a fighting game. Tanya: We already have enough Subby and Scorpion female ninja ripoffs already. Kira: Another Kano ripoff Darrius: he looks to space-like Characters I would like to see again Shinnok: he has great potential since he is a fallen god. Rain: He never had a real chance in the mk spotlight. The female chameleon: (i don't know which is which) it would be awesome if chameleon got together with reptile and started to increase the saurian race. Kintaro: one of the best sub-bosses ever. Goro: i just like this guy for no reason confused Fujin: Didn't he take the place of Rayden? If he did he should show up in the mk series somewhere. Thats my list grin
characters that should just never return IMO are...
Darrius
Havik
Kobra-Oh pleeeeze kill him...
Shujinko- Just bring kung Lao back
Li Mei
Nitara
Frost
Drahmin
Reptile- Unless the completely change his form from DA
Pyro
Mokap
Sonya- or atleast replace her with someone else from the special forces if they wish to keep that whoole side story going.

Tanya
Jarek
Stryker
Moloch
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PrinceBlade
09/10/2005 07:08 AM (UTC)
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Not really big fan of these threads because most of MK characters people hate are already M.I.A, and ones that are still in the MK world who people think that they have so-called "overdid there welcome" there not going nowhere anytime soon, especially if the character(s) are well established ones(Scorpion, Sonya, Sub-Zero etc,), so don't hold breath because you just be disappointed over and over again, as long as the MK characters appeal to certain groups of fans(doesn't have to be you), they will never die, no matter how hard you wish or dream.
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usfalcon1992
09/10/2005 09:48 AM (UTC)
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sorry guys but i have to say that a MORTAL KOMBAT WITHOUT : Rayden, Scorpion, LIU kang....IS NOT ANYMORE MORTAL KOMBAT!

Yes the storyline has to go on but keep the key characters who had made MK what it is now, i mean a famous franchise.

We just need more evolution and interaction between the characters and the it affects the game (for exemple: in MKD, good interaction between NOOB ans SMOKE in the storyline and it affects the gameplay directly, by playing one character....i'am not saying i like this idea i just say this is original, kind a surprising)

In a general way MKD did a very good interaction between characters (endings storyline, or crossover) but THE PROBLEM IS that we have new characters that completly sucks !!! Wherever old's MK has a lot of GOOD characters but who simply disappears....

....Just bring back some old characters and make them feel more involve in MK!!!!

We have enough different characters in all the MK till now, some have to completly disappears because they just are a copy of old characters but with a new name and face....

.....just bring us back Motaro, Sheeva, Kintaro, Rain or Ermac....

OH and let MK feels like MK (it's all about fight, martial arts and super move, and fatality and gore...)
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09/10/2005 12:23 PM (UTC)
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usfalcon1992 Wrote:
sorry guys but i have to say that a MORTAL KOMBAT WITHOUT : Rayden, Scorpion, LIU kang....IS NOT ANYMORE MORTAL KOMBAT!

Yes the storyline has to go on but keep the key characters who had made MK what it is now, i mean a famous franchise.

We just need more evolution and interaction between the characters and the it affects the game (for exemple: in MKD, good interaction between NOOB ans SMOKE in the storyline and it affects the gameplay directly, by playing one character....i'am not saying i like this idea i just say this is original, kind a surprising)

In a general way MKD did a very good interaction between characters (endings storyline, or crossover) but THE PROBLEM IS that we have new characters that completly sucks !!! Wherever old's MK has a lot of GOOD characters but who simply disappears....

....Just bring back some old characters and make them feel more involve in MK!!!!

We have enough different characters in all the MK till now, some have to completly disappears because they just are a copy of old characters but with a new name and face....

.....just bring us back Motaro, Sheeva, Kintaro, Rain or Ermac....

OH and let MK feels like MK (it's all about fight, martial arts and super move, and fatality and gore...)
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You made some minor contradictory there. MK is ot the saem without Liu? Well, MKDA was prolyl the best selling MK game so far in recent history and lot of people were glad to see the turkey man go, at least for one MK.

"Yes the storyline has to go on but keep the key characters who had made MK what it is now, i mean a famous franchise." I totally agree, however that doesn't mean theydon't have to change. Scorpion was slowing down and hurting the overall MK plotline becouse he was going stale. I wonder what his new role will bring. Same with Raiden. Being good with absolutely no personality in game.

"In a general way MKD did a very good interaction between characters (endings storyline, or crossover) but THE PROBLEM IS that we have new characters that completly sucks !!! " - no it didn't. The endings are either incoherent at best, problematic, slow dragged, and/or hold no true purpo-se whereas MKDA was storyline at it's best. The best examples are Sub-Zeros storyline ending, what actually tells us nothing save for his armors interaction. And to do an ending for just that, it's wrong at best considering written literature rules.

The new characters are always relative. For me, they don't suck. To me, most of the newcomers in MKD -attention everyone- are the best thing ever happened in MK ever since the second installment. Designwise I couldn't dig MK3, UMK3 (latex suit ninjas eargh, and an onslaught of them) MKT and MK4. It all comes down to personal taste, and even if you don't like it, most n00b characters in MKD hold more storyline than the newcomers of MK3-UMK3-MKT ever did (notice that the returning ones from UMK3 a.s.o. had improved plotlines too, for that goes a bonus token).

"Wherever old's MK has a lot of GOOD characters but who simply disappe-ars...." -again it's relative. And sometimes it is necessary to erase someo-ne from future plotlines (Japan fighter syndrome, nobody goes away, they mysteriously always survive - Heihachi effect). This is a well layed and critical law of writing (good example: LOTR's Boromir, SW's Obi-wan, a.s.o)

"We have enough different characters in all the MK till now, some have to completly disappears because they just are a copy of old characters but with a new name and face...." on that I agree, however that happens only movewise. Rethink this, becouse creating new, possible and balanced special moves is pretty hard.

"just bring us back Motaro, Sheeva, Kintaro, Rain or Ermac....why? Most of theese character either served no purpose (aside Ermac), served as catalysts for other (CLASSIC!) chatracters storyline (Sheeva for instance was Kano's cue for continuity) or absolutely had no personality, originality and were despised by most of the fans (Kintaro or Rain). Besides, there should be characters who are only episodic

"OH and let MK feels like MK (it's all about fight, martial arts and super move, and fatality and gore...)" - again it's relative. And perhaps the old MK style wouldn't work now, and Midway is not going to make a game for a selected few just to appease them. P.S: I played MK since the first one, and I was disappointed with the atmosphere after MK2 untill MKDA and MKD. Too bad the engine sucks major ass.






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MKungLao
09/10/2005 02:45 PM (UTC)
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your so stupid how could you hate Scorpion. you have absolutley got no taste rain is shit furiousfuriousfuriousfuriousfuriousfuriousfurious
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09/10/2005 03:27 PM (UTC)
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Reasons why Scorpion has lost his charm:

-reason: revenge. It was good in MK1. good in MK2 for mysteriously rturning Sub-Zero. Dumb in MK4 especially retconning the sworn oath to protect the younger Sub-Zero (the only showing trait of honor besides a thrist for revenge), and thank God: mildly stupid execution of him rushing Quan Chi.

-let's face it. "Come here" and "Get over here" has faded through a decade (10 years OMG! 10 Years people!).

-the toasty was truly missing ever since MK2. (the staggering fools in MK4 Toasty were rather comical than gruesome)

-a new generation of MK players who mostly got into the series hasn't experienced a Scorpionsih supremacy throuh MK1-MK2 (though gameplay wise the ninjas were pretty low in MK2)
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EmberJoe
09/10/2005 03:55 PM (UTC)
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All OrderRealm characters from MK:D should die, Hotaro at the blade of kenshi, the rest, in a freak "When Fanboys Attack... crappy new characters" outbreak.

Besides them, i think it is fitting that Li Mei die at the hands of Raiden after betrying the heroes. This would;
1) Make Raiden's new character arc feel more realistic
2) Establish that characters CAN be killed off, even when it isnt there first game
3) Give her a fitting exit
I didnt mind her, but its just her turn.

I would also like to see Mileena kill baraka, hes had his run, his army has been destroyed, so he should either die alongside his doomed comrades, or at the hands of Mileena. Maybe a fitting twist would be his ending from MK:D, but instead of killing her, sneaking up on her. Before he strikes, she could seduce him, lay with him, then slay him in his sleep. Maybe she would fall pregnant and carry the future of her race inside??? This would also REALLY help with number 2 from above. I just think that it needs to be possible for established characters to die, so that things feel life and death, not "who cares if i loose, ill just be reborn in the netherealm"

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09/10/2005 05:11 PM (UTC)
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Bo'Rai Cho
Kai
Shujinko
Dairou









ps. Nitara needs to come back!. =P
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Negen99
09/10/2005 11:44 PM (UTC)
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Kenshi (go play with dare devil)
scorpion (seen enough of him)
sub zero(make him a cyborg like cyrax or kill him)
bo rai cho(go fart somewhere else)
sonya, jax, johny cage,liu kang (overrated, all of them)
dragon king (we want shao kahn)
female ninjas (i just dont like them)

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09/11/2005 12:43 AM (UTC)
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Negen99 Wrote:
Kenshi (go play with dare devil)
scorpion (seen enough of him)
sub zero(make him a cyborg like cyrax or kill him)
bo rai cho(go fart somewhere else)
sonya, jax, johny cage,liu kang (overrated, all of them)
dragon king (we want shao kahn)
female ninjas (i just dont like them)



egad, thats...well thats the point I stop reasoning. I can understand that certain aspects of MK are in dire need of improvement (Chaos-orderrealm Liu Kangs personality and stuff) but this reasoning left me baffled. And most of you too I guess.
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09/12/2005 02:27 PM (UTC)
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yeh i agree wid most of these besides sub.

the characters i would love to see die are sonya and cage..
this could open the way for a darker deeper jax seeking revenge
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PrinceBlade
09/13/2005 01:28 AM (UTC)
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chardballz Wrote:
yeh i agree wid most of these besides sub.

the characters i would love to see die are sonya and cage..
this could open the way for a darker deeper jax seeking revenge


Won't happen in a million years.
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MyQueenSindel
09/13/2005 08:33 PM (UTC)
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KaizuDragon Wrote:
MyQueenSindel Wrote:
Chrome Wrote:
Sindel: very bad design. Ugly in MK3, uglier in MK:D. No innovation or gain, Sindel has no obvious long-term goal, what makes her a episodic charac-ter. And a bad one too.

You know, the second I saw this thread, I just knew at the same second "Chrome is going to say Sindel" Surprise surprise. But I'm not offended of anything. People are entitle to their own opinion.


If you weren't offended, you wouldn't have commented on that in the first place.

I won't name names, but I wouldn't want to see most of the "fillers" from MK: DA and MK: D make a return. I say bring back more of the classics, Ermac included.


because i wanted to share my appresion, qoutes don't always have to be said with anger
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09/13/2005 08:56 PM (UTC)
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MyQueenSindel Wrote:
KaizuDragon Wrote:
MyQueenSindel Wrote:
Chrome Wrote:
Sindel: very bad design. Ugly in MK3, uglier in MK:D. No innovation or gain, Sindel has no obvious long-term goal, what makes her a episodic charac-ter. And a bad one too.

You know, the second I saw this thread, I just knew at the same second "Chrome is going to say Sindel" Surprise surprise. But I'm not offended of anything. People are entitle to their own opinion.


If you weren't offended, you wouldn't have commented on that in the first place.

I won't name names, but I wouldn't want to see most of the "fillers" from MK: DA and MK: D make a return. I say bring back more of the classics, Ermac included.


because i wanted to share my appresion, qoutes don't always have to be said with anger


And that was one of the most highly regarded posts, at least from me.
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09/15/2005 07:15 PM (UTC)
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Wow! i never thought i would get that many messages! please, keep typing stuff down. your opinion matters. i'm the type of person that loves standing out and i love different opinions!!
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JediTommy8
09/16/2005 10:23 PM (UTC)
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people who can die:
.stryker!!!!!!
.kobra
.darrius
.dairou
.hsu hao
.mavado
.chameleon(male one)
.jarek
.onaga
.shujinko
.sheeva
.moloch
.bo rai cho

everyone else i would love to see back for the next mk,even mokap(lol)
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skorpionrulz
09/19/2005 11:31 AM (UTC)
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people who should die:
liu kang (i loved mkda kung lao should take over)
johnny cage (no point to him, why would he keep fighting)
mileena (baraka/kitana ripoff, but without the cool blades)
reptile (served his purpose)
mavado (liked him for his hookswords, STAY dead)
kobra, kira, dairou, hotaru. (obvious)
kano ( what else can he do? kabal leads the black dragon now)
most of the filler charecters who made 1 game cameos.

people who should come back or stay:
fujin (help raiden, you dumbass)
scorpion (he was getting tired, but now hes like "the hand of god")
sub zero (he at least needs another ice person, with the new armor, he could have more storyline possibilities)
STRYKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!(the idiots at midway need to BRING HIM BACK the most normal charecter in mk)
kenshi (since i first saw him, i loved him. i love that he kicks ass with a disability, but he shouldnt be around much longer)
noob saibot (always loved him, needs something else besides "netherrealm spawn" because scorpion takes up that void. why dosent he attack scorpion and they have one big showdown?)
raiden (new dark look is a good change)
havik (lot of room to work with)
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09/19/2005 03:28 PM (UTC)
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ok IMO

Bo rai chao.
he needs to die

Mavado - cool moves.. crappy character
(everyone with any relevance to movado)

Kabal - get over the hook swords

Kano - oops meant Jarek... my bad

Kitana -shes lame

Shang tsung, shao Kahn, Quan Chi - evil bosses getting old

Onaga - yeh hes scary... NOT

shujinko - i hate that guy (kill him good Raiden)

Cage - unless they change his story, hes gettin borin.

that vampire chick

Darious Dariou Havik Ashrah (boring new people) Havik was ok but a bit useless

Kenshi OR Ermac only one person with those powers is needed

Sonya - shes only in it for remote sex appeal.. her story has dried up badly

Sindel - time to go ugly

Main ppl wanna see back

Fujin - he had such cool moves
Kai - boring but could be expanded on
Robots - they look so scary !!!!
EVIL RAIDEN - PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEE MAKE HIM AN EVIL BOSS ONE DAY!!!



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4thWarrior
09/19/2005 07:02 PM (UTC)
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Mileena (because her tits are to small)
Reptile (he doesn't look like a lizard to me)
Johnny Cage (he just sucks when you play as him)
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09/20/2005 07:35 PM (UTC)
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chardballz Wrote:
ok IMO

Sindel - time to go ugly




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