We are the world, We are the children! We're the ones who make a brighter day so let's start giving!

Come on every one. Join hands and sing along.

"Occasional"? Let's see...

Sonya, Johnny, Kano, Raiden, Kitana, Stryker, Kabal, Sektor, Sareena, Kia, Jarek, Reiko, Frost, Nitara, Mavado, Mokap, Ashrah, Kira, Kobra, Taven, Daegon, Skarlet and Cassie. Kuai Liang, who despite his name, is always depicted as a very white guy whenever he's unmasked. Shujinko looked like an old white guy to me, so if he was meant to look Asian, well, they failed. Quan Chi and Shinnok are literally white, but they still look and sound Caucasian. Total: 27.

Let's see about the "freaks". Goro, Reptile, Baraka, Mileena, Kintaro, Shao Kahn, Kabal, the cyborgs (who all count as their respective human races), Sheeva, Motaro, Khameleon, Drahmin, Moloch, Nitara (who's not that freaky), Havik, D'Vorah, and Ferra/Torr. Some of those whose "freaky" features aren't even visible most of the time and who look human because of it, and Kabal, who actually is human. Total: 21, if you count them all.

Now, Asians. Liu Kang, Shang Tsung, Scorpion, Kung Lao, Smoke and Rain in MK9, Fujin, Li Mei (looks and sounds Asian, and even has an Asian-sounding name), Hsu Hao, Hotaru, Dairou, and Kitana in the DC crossover. Even if you count the Sub-Zero Bros and Shujinko, that's less Asian characters than white ones. Kitana was only Asian in the DC crossover, so she doesn't really count. So, total: 15, less if you leave out some of them.

All non-Asian minorities: Jade, Jax, Cyrax, Nightwolf, Jataaka, Tanya, Kai, and Darrius. 8 total.

Yes, they're not pushing the white race at all. I know some of them are aliens, but if they still look and sound like a human ethnicity, then they count. And since the MK series is deeply rooted in Asian cultures, then obviously, the Asian characters are deliberatly designed as so. Funnily, they still don't make up most of the roster.

So much for race not mattering to the developers.

You are deeply disturbed and I say that not to belittle. But this nonsense you're ranting about signals something deeper. It's a little unnerving. I'm here if you need to talk.

..dude I think your the most racist person I have ever come in digital contact with...

First, there is something to be clarified, Brazilian is a nationality, not a race. They come in all shapes, colours, and sizes.

With that said, people are not pushing for white characters, I don't know where you got that from. And again, who is there to say a Brazilian character wouldn't be white? There's tons of them. Unless what you want is not a character with it's own identity and purpose who just happens to be Brazilian, but an stereotyped latin character.

Either way, I probably wouldn't support it. The options end up being creating a stereotyped character with lots of characteristics the developers think that look Brazilian, or just having a regular character and adding in his bio "Oh, and he is from RIo", in the same pointless way they did with Smoke. A lame attempt to give more depth to a poorly developed character.

Now, don't get me wrong, if there is a reason in the story to have a non stereotyped Brazilian character state where is he from and have that play a role in the story I would be totally ok with it. But what I want is characters that are created in consequence of how the story develops, not developing the story in consequence of the characters you want to add.


PD: While Nightwolf fulfilled the wise native-american archetipe in MK3, it was not until MKD that he became an stereotype of it. It is a shame because, while I still like it, he was much more interesting before.

The fuck did I just read?
And Smoke isn't Asian. He's from Prague

>Asian name
>Coolie hat
>Literally the Japanese god of thunder and lightning




oh ok

Also, this guy:



So you're telling me that even though Bane is Hispanic and has always been Hispanic, the second a white Englishman was cast to play him in the movie, the character has somehow stopped being Hispanic?

Because that's crazy talk.


>is named Mavado, a riff on "Malvado", which is Spanish for "evildoer"
>used to have an alternate that looked like a straight-up Spanish conquistador
>looks like this:


>white




>the entire reason for the character's existence is the fact that somebody on team saw Kill Bill and decided that they want this guy in MK:


>B-BUT HE LOOKS WHITE TO ME

Are you fucking kidding me with this shit?


Literally the whitest name I can think of, right next to "Benedict", "Chad" and "Adolf".


>a timeless being, one of the creators of the entire reality as we know it before race, humans and life itself were even a thing
>true form is that of a dragon
>the crude physical avatar that he chooses to appear as has colorless skin devoid of any pigmentation, because all it ever meant to be was a rough approximation of a human being, like an unfinished sketch

>DAS RAYCISS




Good point.



Just look at these assholes. They're so transparently white that you can literally see all the privilege they have sloshing inside.


To be fair, Smoke is actually a native of the Czech Republic, so he's out.


They're literal fucking aliums from another dimension who happen to look human.

Who the hell gets to decide if they look "too white"? You?

Are you one of those people who gets into twitter arguments with minorities and implies that they're privileged because they can "pass for white"?


Man, you SJWs are racist as shit.

You have issues. Seeing people make race such a big issue in 2014, esp in things like freaggin fighting games...smh!

Let's see some of the most popular fighting games and their rosters:

Tekken - Bruce, Tiger, Raven, Eddy. 4 out of 68 (more or less) characters

Street Fighter - Elena, Balrog, Urien, Dudley, Dhalsim, Dee Jay. 6 out of 75+

DoA - Zack, Lisa. 2 out of 35

Soul Calibut - Zasalamel. 1 out of 60!!

Mortal Kombat - Jax, Kai, Jade, Tanya, Cyrax, Darrius. That is 6 out of 63 characters, which compared to other games is the biggest ratio. Not that characters from imaginary realms even count as black people but even if we take your logic seriously, you're...you're...Wtf are you even talking about?

Slay on T! You said everything I was too damn lazy too. Lmao at him calling Sektor "white", well o....k.

That is definitely not Daniel. Who is the name of this actor?

Jesus Christ.

First off, of course that's not Daniel. It's probably a random Midway employee hired to pose just for the ending screen. (Oh, Chinese Ninja Warrior...)

However, If anyone even paid attention to the backstory of MK Mythologies, Sub-Zero was officially changed to mixed race when Midway gave him a Caucasian mother who gave birth to him in America. The occidental look of the character beforehand -- the actors playing him in the games and movies, the cartoon, the Live Tour, I could go on -- was a result of that. Bi-Han's portrayal in MK Legacy was the first time he was straight-up Asian in nearly two decades. (Eric Steinberg in season 2 is mixed.)

Anyway, for the record, Cyrax and Sektor in the MK cartoon were EXACTLY how I'd always envisioned them before this was snuffed out by Cyrax's unmasking in MK Gold. In fact, for whatever reason Cyrax was always Latino in my MKverse back in the day, and it's sad that it's taken us so long to get someone even remotely that (Mavado). Midway had that chance with Bo' Rai Cho and blew it by instead making him an Outworld resident.
Lastly, I can't quote the entire post, but why the hell would Ashrah be considered white (which she clearly isn't) when she's a demon from the Netherealm?

Now let's close this thread and call it a day.

*SIGH*

Aztecs were not South American.

Lol, you can't fault American ignorance.

Mexico is pretty close lol. I guess I will just call Kotal Incan

BasedT-Rex

Incan's are South americans, but Kotal is not Incan, he is Aztec. That would mean latin american, but not south american. Being from mexico it would actually be north american.

"Tanya is too black"


These threads are getting better and better every day.

I also would really like it if people could think beyond race and ethnicity when it comes to MK characters. These types of threads come up all the time and they're quite irritating because this isn't the Olympics or a United Nations meeting. This is an inter-dimensional inter-species fantasy fighting tournament but people still want to see characters based on the colors of humans that already exist in real life? Think outside the box!

This MK needs to be inclusive with other realms tho.

Nevermind the hard proven scientific fact that there is no such thing as race. There is species, but no race.

And every human is a homo sapiens sapiens.

Don't go there, okay? This thread has proven enough of a steaming pile.

>what is sub-species
>what are genetic differences between races

Let's not go full SJW here.

We can go there. The melanin levels of your skin do not constitute a new species alone. That is a trivial adaptive difference, the German Sheperd is still a German sheperd if it has slightly darker brown fur. Better example: insects. They can be of different colors. Ths is seventh grade elementary school stuff people.

That is not to say that it does not show up where specification happens.

I'm glad you brought dogs up, because dog breeds are a much more apt comparison.

Allow me to introduce canis lupus familiaris:


...and canis lupus familiaris:


Genetically, they're the same species. But nobody in their right mind would claim that the innumerable quantifiable differences between the two are a "social construct".

That is not an apt comparison! Those animals are a created subspecies of canis lupus familiaris. We have created "breeds" of dog by breeding animals with traits we have deemed desirable. When they are not "purebred" then they are "muts." A term used for a breed of dog that does not fall into any category of subspecies. All modern human beings are homo sapiens sapiens; we ourselves are subspecies. It the lowest division of scientific classification. Anything more is genetic diversity, which can even vary from parent to child.

Race is a social construct it just is. There is no "just black" or "just white." There are multiple "colorations" of people who can be classified as being black or white. In 1998 the American Anthropological Association published this statement in regard to race.

"In the United States both scholars and the general public have been conditioned to viewing human races as natural and separate divisions within the human species based on visible physical differences. With the vast expansion of scientific knowledge in this century, however, it has become clear that human populations are not unambiguous, clearly demarcated, biologically distinct groups. Evidence from the analysis of genetics (e.g., DNA) indicates that most physical variation, about 94%, lies within so-called racial groups. Conventional geographic "racial" groupings differ from one another only in about 6% of their genes. This means that there is greater variation within "racial" groups than between them. In neighboring populations there is much overlapping of genes and their phenotypic (physical) expressions. Throughout history whenever different groups have come into contact, they have interbred. The continued sharing of genetic materials has maintained all of humankind as a single species."

It is easier to divide humanity into groups of earlobe size, and equally valid under the terms of genetic diversity, as it is to divide them by "color."