Jaded-Raven •10/14/2014 07:39 PM (UTC) •
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I just don't think it's cool to push a certain minority forth, whether it is race, nationality, sexuality or whatever, as something important enough to be significant for a game developer to care about it enough to make a whole character around it.
Because it isn't important. Especially not in a fighting game.
Because it isn't important. Especially not in a fighting game.
DjangoDrag •10/14/2014 07:47 PM (UTC) •
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Yeah, it's really not important in MK. MK is about realms, not countries or colors. You from earth? Feel represented.
DjangoDrag •10/14/2014 08:01 PM (UTC) •
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T-rex Wrote:
I feel that people from Khaosrealm are severely underrepresented in MK. It's very problematic, and we should all be offended.
NRS konfirmed for khaosphobic realmist scum.
I feel that people from Khaosrealm are severely underrepresented in MK. It's very problematic, and we should all be offended.
NRS konfirmed for khaosphobic realmist scum.
In NRS defense, Khaosrealmers aren't usually good team players. Just try patching one of those guys.
Detox •10/14/2014 08:01 PM (UTC) •
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DG1OA Wrote:
It's always funny how agitated people get whenever someone suggests minority characters. You can expect the usual accusations of wanting diversity just for diversity's sake, since, obviously, people who make such suggestions can't possibly want minority characters to also have a great story, design, personality and moveset. Nah, a certain skin color and/or sexual orientation must be all they care for.
If you aren't racist, or bigoted in anyway, then such suggestions shouldn't pose a problem, especially if the person making them didn't act like a bigot, either.
Fun fact: Sonya in MK1 was added so they could have a woman on the roster. Yes, yes, her gender's not all that defines her, but it was still her primary raison d'être in MK1. Not everyone likes her, but she's still hugely popular. Why couldn't a Brazilian character turn out the same way?
But do keep believing NRS doesn't ever think about race when designing human or human-looking characters. Yeah, most of them just turn out to be white for some reason. Heh.
It's always funny how agitated people get whenever someone suggests minority characters. You can expect the usual accusations of wanting diversity just for diversity's sake, since, obviously, people who make such suggestions can't possibly want minority characters to also have a great story, design, personality and moveset. Nah, a certain skin color and/or sexual orientation must be all they care for.
If you aren't racist, or bigoted in anyway, then such suggestions shouldn't pose a problem, especially if the person making them didn't act like a bigot, either.
Fun fact: Sonya in MK1 was added so they could have a woman on the roster. Yes, yes, her gender's not all that defines her, but it was still her primary raison d'être in MK1. Not everyone likes her, but she's still hugely popular. Why couldn't a Brazilian character turn out the same way?
But do keep believing NRS doesn't ever think about race when designing human or human-looking characters. Yeah, most of them just turn out to be white for some reason. Heh.
...the thread is about wanting someone Brazilian, you're assuming people are annoyed by this because you're assuming(once again) that all someone thinks when they hear "Brazilian" is black.
What's with that bro?
T-rex Wrote:
I feel that people from Khaosrealm are severely underrepresented in MK. It's very problematic, and we should all be offended.
NRS konfirmed for khaosphobic realmist scum.
I feel that people from Khaosrealm are severely underrepresented in MK. It's very problematic, and we should all be offended.
NRS konfirmed for khaosphobic realmist scum.
Don't we mean overrepresented? I feel like we made this exact joke last year.
Jaded-Raven •10/14/2014 10:40 PM (UTC) •
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DG1OA Wrote:
Fuck Columbus.
coltess Wrote:
Happy Columbus Day, by the way.
Happy Columbus Day, by the way.
Fuck Columbus.
That would be necrophilia... so no thanks.
CassiesPatentedNutBuster •10/15/2014 01:12 AM (UTC) •
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DG1OA Wrote:
Why not?
I'm all for a Brazilian female character, or several.
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Why?
ShujinkoX Wrote:
MKX could use a Brazilian type character
MKX could use a Brazilian type character
Why?
Why not?
I'm all for a Brazilian female character, or several.
Be quiet, you Social Justice Warrior.
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CassiesPatentedNutBuster Wrote:
Be quiet, you Social Justice Warrior.
DG1OA Wrote:
Why not?
I'm all for a Brazilian female character, or several.
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Why?
ShujinkoX Wrote:
MKX could use a Brazilian type character
MKX could use a Brazilian type character
Why?
Why not?
I'm all for a Brazilian female character, or several.
Be quiet, you Social Justice Warrior.
Oh crap here we go...I'm just going to quietly stand in the corner and wish the possible brazilian character ends up being Kai.
J-spit •10/15/2014 02:47 AM (UTC) •
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How can a Brazilian be too black. They're black!
Anywho, I'd appreciate a Portuguese brawler. As long as they're not generic capoeira turds. This isn't a 3D fighter though, so maybe it doesn't matter.
Anywho, I'd appreciate a Portuguese brawler. As long as they're not generic capoeira turds. This isn't a 3D fighter though, so maybe it doesn't matter.
QueenAhnka •10/15/2014 02:50 AM (UTC) •
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J-spit Wrote:
How can a Brazilian be too black. .
How can a Brazilian be too black. .
Hence why I stopped taking the OP seriously. Brazilians comes in all shades of colors.
Dellombie •10/15/2014 03:30 AM (UTC) •
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J-spit Wrote:
How can a Brazilian be too black. They're black!
Anywho, I'd appreciate a Portuguese brawler. As long as they're not generic capoeira turds. This isn't a 3D fighter though, so maybe it doesn't matter.
How can a Brazilian be too black. They're black!
Anywho, I'd appreciate a Portuguese brawler. As long as they're not generic capoeira turds. This isn't a 3D fighter though, so maybe it doesn't matter.
Well.. Im from Brazil and Im white with green eyes! Majority of my friends are white too, and some are from asian ancestry..
don ́t talk bullshit about a diverse country you know nothing about!
Please! I really hope the guys who are in charge of this page DELETE this stupid topic right now!
J-spit •10/15/2014 04:10 AM (UTC) •
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Dellombie Wrote:
Well.. Im from Brazil and Im white with green eyes! Majority of my friends are white too, and some are from asian ancestry..
don ́t talk bullshit about a diverse country you know nothing about!
Please! I really hope the guys who are in charge of this page DELETE this stupid topic right now!
J-spit Wrote:
How can a Brazilian be too black. They're black!
Anywho, I'd appreciate a Portuguese brawler. As long as they're not generic capoeira turds. This isn't a 3D fighter though, so maybe it doesn't matter.
How can a Brazilian be too black. They're black!
Anywho, I'd appreciate a Portuguese brawler. As long as they're not generic capoeira turds. This isn't a 3D fighter though, so maybe it doesn't matter.
Well.. Im from Brazil and Im white with green eyes! Majority of my friends are white too, and some are from asian ancestry..
don ́t talk bullshit about a diverse country you know nothing about!
Please! I really hope the guys who are in charge of this page DELETE this stupid topic right now!
What was that about? It doesn't mean that there aren't black brazillians. I'm well aware of the diversity in the Afro Caribbean community.
J-spit Wrote:
What was that about? It doesn't mean that there aren't black brazillians. I'm well aware of the diversity in the Afro Caribbean community.
Dellombie Wrote:
Well.. Im from Brazil and Im white with green eyes! Majority of my friends are white too, and some are from asian ancestry..
don ́t talk bullshit about a diverse country you know nothing about!
Please! I really hope the guys who are in charge of this page DELETE this stupid topic right now!
J-spit Wrote:
How can a Brazilian be too black. They're black!
Anywho, I'd appreciate a Portuguese brawler. As long as they're not generic capoeira turds. This isn't a 3D fighter though, so maybe it doesn't matter.
How can a Brazilian be too black. They're black!
Anywho, I'd appreciate a Portuguese brawler. As long as they're not generic capoeira turds. This isn't a 3D fighter though, so maybe it doesn't matter.
Well.. Im from Brazil and Im white with green eyes! Majority of my friends are white too, and some are from asian ancestry..
don ́t talk bullshit about a diverse country you know nothing about!
Please! I really hope the guys who are in charge of this page DELETE this stupid topic right now!
What was that about? It doesn't mean that there aren't black brazillians. I'm well aware of the diversity in the Afro Caribbean community.
Clarity of thought before rashness of action.
SwingBatta •10/15/2014 07:59 AM (UTC) •
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When will people realize that "We need a [minority] character" threads crash and burn nearly every single time?
zerosebaz •10/15/2014 12:04 PM (UTC) •
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Having a character be a certain gender/race/species/nationality just for the sake of having a character of that gender/race/species/nationality is not something good. It tends to leave to really bad stereotypes.
J-spit Wrote:
What was that about? It doesn't mean that there aren't black brazillians. I'm well aware of the diversity in the Afro Caribbean community.
Dellombie Wrote:
Well.. Im from Brazil and Im white with green eyes! Majority of my friends are white too, and some are from asian ancestry..
don ́t talk bullshit about a diverse country you know nothing about!
Please! I really hope the guys who are in charge of this page DELETE this stupid topic right now!
J-spit Wrote:
How can a Brazilian be too black. They're black!
Anywho, I'd appreciate a Portuguese brawler. As long as they're not generic capoeira turds. This isn't a 3D fighter though, so maybe it doesn't matter.
How can a Brazilian be too black. They're black!
Anywho, I'd appreciate a Portuguese brawler. As long as they're not generic capoeira turds. This isn't a 3D fighter though, so maybe it doesn't matter.
Well.. Im from Brazil and Im white with green eyes! Majority of my friends are white too, and some are from asian ancestry..
don ́t talk bullshit about a diverse country you know nothing about!
Please! I really hope the guys who are in charge of this page DELETE this stupid topic right now!
What was that about? It doesn't mean that there aren't black brazillians. I'm well aware of the diversity in the Afro Caribbean community.
I don't see how the diversity in the Afro Caribbean community matters when Brazil is not a Caribbean country...
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Brazilian women have the BEST butts. I have a huge liking for their women. Not to mention the Favelas. Maybe it's a terrible place but the fact it's little houses built inside a mountain is way f'n cool to me! Let's not forget Brazilian Jujitsu. I'd like to see that at some point as well.
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
I just don't think it's cool to push a certain minority forth, whether it is race, nationality, sexuality or whatever, as something important enough to be significant for a game developer to care about it enough to make a whole character around it.
Because it isn't important. Especially not in a fighting game.
I just don't think it's cool to push a certain minority forth, whether it is race, nationality, sexuality or whatever, as something important enough to be significant for a game developer to care about it enough to make a whole character around it.
Because it isn't important. Especially not in a fighting game.
The same way they're pushing the white race with so many white characters? Yes, I understand why would you wouldn't want the same thing done with other types of people.
"But all these white characters aren't defined by their race" you might say. Well sure they aren't, but don't kid yourself, chances are all the characters' races were chosen deliberatly. To the developers, Kabal, Stryker, Johnny, Sonya, etc, are partially defined by their race. Sonya was included in MK1 specifically so they could have a woman on the roster.
Then there's Nightwolf. He is an interesting character, but he is largely defined by being Native American. Jax, like it or not, was created so they could have a black man.
Another possibility they just made the white characters, well, white, only because it came naturally to them, not because they decided Sonya couldn't be Hispanic, but that would show how strongly influenced by stereotypes the developers are, and how yes, all the human or human-looking characters are partially defined by their race as a result.
There's nothing wrong with asking for a Brazilian character, so long as they put the same effort in designing that character as they did for Sonya and Nightwolf.
aaaaahhhhshark •10/15/2014 02:19 PM (UTC) •
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I took it that the Brazil treat from Mk would be some bonus with the game, or an earlier release or something,
rather than a character from Brazil
rather than a character from Brazil
DG1OA Wrote:
The same way they're pushing the white race with so many white characters?
The same way they're pushing the white race with so many white characters?
>MK
>heavily steeped in Asian aesthetics and mythology
>half of the cast is Asian
>the other half consists of assorted aliens, freaks, minorities and some occasional white people sprinkled in
>pushing the white race
Nigga, you straight-up cray.
SwingBatta Wrote:
When will people realize that "We need a [minority] character" threads crash and burn nearly every single time?
When will people realize that "We need a [minority] character" threads crash and burn nearly every single time?
When people stop being stupid and selfish? When they realise that the game is not developed individually for them and that they are not entitled to anything? Until that epiphany dawns upon people, we will continue to have these garbage threads.
DG1OA Wrote:
Another possibility they just made the white characters, well, white, only because it came naturally to them, not because they decided Sonya couldn't be Hispanic, but that would show how strongly influenced by stereotypes the developers are, and how yes, all the human or human-looking characters are partially defined by their race as a result.
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
I just don't think it's cool to push a certain minority forth, whether it is race, nationality, sexuality or whatever, as something important enough to be significant for a game developer to care about it enough to make a whole character around it.
Because it isn't important. Especially not in a fighting game.
I just don't think it's cool to push a certain minority forth, whether it is race, nationality, sexuality or whatever, as something important enough to be significant for a game developer to care about it enough to make a whole character around it.
Because it isn't important. Especially not in a fighting game.
Another possibility they just made the white characters, well, white, only because it came naturally to them, not because they decided Sonya couldn't be Hispanic, but that would show how strongly influenced by stereotypes the developers are, and how yes, all the human or human-looking characters are partially defined by their race as a result.
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Or maybe the characters that are white originate from countries that have majority white populations?! Just a thought.
thisiscourage •10/15/2014 02:47 PM (UTC) •
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DG1OA Wrote:
The same way they're pushing the white race with so many white characters? Yes, I understand why would you wouldn't want the same thing done with other types of people.
"But all these white characters aren't defined by their race" you might say. Well sure they aren't, but don't kid yourself, chances are all the characters' races were chosen deliberatly. To the developers, Kabal, Stryker, Johnny, Sonya, etc, are partially defined by their race. Sonya was included in MK1 specifically so they could have a woman on the roster.
Then there's Nightwolf. He is an interesting character, but he is largely defined by being Native American. Jax, like it or not, was created so they could have a black man.
Another possibility they just made the white characters, well, white, only because it came naturally to them, not because they decided Sonya couldn't be Hispanic, but that would show how strongly influenced by stereotypes the developers are, and how yes, all the human or human-looking characters are partially defined by their race as a result.
There's nothing wrong with asking for a Brazilian character, so long as they put the same effort in designing that character as they did for Sonya and Nightwolf.
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
I just don't think it's cool to push a certain minority forth, whether it is race, nationality, sexuality or whatever, as something important enough to be significant for a game developer to care about it enough to make a whole character around it.
Because it isn't important. Especially not in a fighting game.
I just don't think it's cool to push a certain minority forth, whether it is race, nationality, sexuality or whatever, as something important enough to be significant for a game developer to care about it enough to make a whole character around it.
Because it isn't important. Especially not in a fighting game.
The same way they're pushing the white race with so many white characters? Yes, I understand why would you wouldn't want the same thing done with other types of people.
"But all these white characters aren't defined by their race" you might say. Well sure they aren't, but don't kid yourself, chances are all the characters' races were chosen deliberatly. To the developers, Kabal, Stryker, Johnny, Sonya, etc, are partially defined by their race. Sonya was included in MK1 specifically so they could have a woman on the roster.
Then there's Nightwolf. He is an interesting character, but he is largely defined by being Native American. Jax, like it or not, was created so they could have a black man.
Another possibility they just made the white characters, well, white, only because it came naturally to them, not because they decided Sonya couldn't be Hispanic, but that would show how strongly influenced by stereotypes the developers are, and how yes, all the human or human-looking characters are partially defined by their race as a result.
There's nothing wrong with asking for a Brazilian character, so long as they put the same effort in designing that character as they did for Sonya and Nightwolf.
I think your just butthurt man.
Someone must have treated you very poorly.. for that I am sorry.
Are you mad that they added jax to have a black man? because your literally asking the same thing of brazilian people, gay people, russian people, the list doesnt end.
thisiscourage •10/15/2014 03:04 PM (UTC) •
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The way I see it is:
We have Kotal already, who is a shoutout to the history of south america and the heritage of the people that live there.
THAT is much more powerful in my eyes than having a single person of "Brazilian" decent. Because as DG10A has made it outstandingly clear: you can never satisfy people. If you give people "green" there will be some who wanted forest green and others who wanted seafoam green.
It is much better (especially in a FIGHTING VIDEO GAME) to have archetypal character's rather than a specific demographic. It is impossible for one character to meet everyone's wishes.
We have Kotal already, who is a shoutout to the history of south america and the heritage of the people that live there.
THAT is much more powerful in my eyes than having a single person of "Brazilian" decent. Because as DG10A has made it outstandingly clear: you can never satisfy people. If you give people "green" there will be some who wanted forest green and others who wanted seafoam green.
It is much better (especially in a FIGHTING VIDEO GAME) to have archetypal character's rather than a specific demographic. It is impossible for one character to meet everyone's wishes.
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