Bring back John Tobias
Bring back John Tobias
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posted04/12/2015 01:40 PM (UTC)byMindStrikesits proven that without him the story doesnt get better. Ppl already hate the story mode in MKX...
C'mon @Boon, dont digg your own grave and get Tobias back in the team!!
for those who dont know who tobias is, shame and Google it.
C'mon @Boon, dont digg your own grave and get Tobias back in the team!!
for those who dont know who tobias is, shame and Google it.
QueenAhnka •04/05/2015 02:55 PM (UTC) •
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They don't even need to rely on Tobias. They did a SOLID job with the stories in Deadly Alliance and Deception. I consider both narratives to be the peak of the MK mythos. The MKX comics actually seemed to be going back to that style but idk what the fuck happened with storymode...
Kitsune •04/05/2015 02:59 PM (UTC) •
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Tobias is overrated. I don't want him anywhere near MK.
Kittelsen, the comic writer, knows his way around the lore. They should use his input for the next MK.
Kittelsen, the comic writer, knows his way around the lore. They should use his input for the next MK.
QueenAhnka •04/05/2015 03:01 PM (UTC) •
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Thracian_Tsar Wrote:
Tobias is overrated. I don't want him anywhere near MK.
Kittelsen, the comic writer, knows his way around the lore. They should use his input for the next MK.
Tobias is overrated. I don't want him anywhere near MK.
Kittelsen, the comic writer, knows his way around the lore. They should use his input for the next MK.
They should just use him for the whole damn story mode lol. Guy killed it with the comics.
FROST4584 •04/05/2015 03:01 PM (UTC) •
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Thracian_Tsar Wrote:
Tobias is overrated. I don't want him anywhere near MK.
Kittelsen, the comic writer, knows his way around the lore. They should use his input for the next MK.
Tobias is overrated. I don't want him anywhere near MK.
Kittelsen, the comic writer, knows his way around the lore. They should use his input for the next MK.
Lol , yeah, the guy who created the backbone of the MK series is over rated. MK1 to MK4 will always be the best in the series as far as storyline and characters go.
MindStrikes •04/05/2015 03:02 PM (UTC) •
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He appearantly works at Zynga now. still hes a very talented story writer/designer, im sure he still wants to write and design further on MK. i get a sense he's not allowed anymore as a team member.
Yes i remember he left Midway with Joshua Tsui and David Michicich and started a new studio called Gigante. unfortunatly tao fengs gameplay failed.
Yes i remember he left Midway with Joshua Tsui and David Michicich and started a new studio called Gigante. unfortunatly tao fengs gameplay failed.
MindStrikes •04/05/2015 03:05 PM (UTC) •
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FROST4584 Wrote:
Lol , yeah, the guy who created the backbone of the MK series is over rated. MK1 to MK4 will always be the best in the series as far as storyline and characters go.
Thracian_Tsar Wrote:
Tobias is overrated. I don't want him anywhere near MK.
Kittelsen, the comic writer, knows his way around the lore. They should use his input for the next MK.
Tobias is overrated. I don't want him anywhere near MK.
Kittelsen, the comic writer, knows his way around the lore. They should use his input for the next MK.
Lol , yeah, the guy who created the backbone of the MK series is over rated. MK1 to MK4 will always be the best in the series as far as storyline and characters go.
Thanks! @Thracian_Tsar you sure who he was? cause i really dont get why he is overrated. so far i know this is the first thread about Tobias.
QueenAhnka •04/05/2015 03:07 PM (UTC) •
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FROST4584 Wrote:
Lol , yeah, the guy who created the backbone of the MK series is over rated. MK1 to MK4 will always be the best in the series as far as storyline and characters go.
Thracian_Tsar Wrote:
Tobias is overrated. I don't want him anywhere near MK.
Kittelsen, the comic writer, knows his way around the lore. They should use his input for the next MK.
Tobias is overrated. I don't want him anywhere near MK.
Kittelsen, the comic writer, knows his way around the lore. They should use his input for the next MK.
Lol , yeah, the guy who created the backbone of the MK series is over rated. MK1 to MK4 will always be the best in the series as far as storyline and characters go.
That's the main reason why he's overrated. People see through rose colored nostalgic glasses from the 90s.
x4ooz2frdom •04/05/2015 03:08 PM (UTC) •
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definitely bring him back
Cages_Shades Props to MINION •04/05/2015 03:09 PM (UTC) •
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They need to bring back Konquest and get get rid of story mode, that would solve everything.
FROST4584 •04/05/2015 03:19 PM (UTC) •
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
That's the main reason why he's overrated. People see through rose colored nostalgic glasses from the 90s.
FROST4584 Wrote:
Lol , yeah, the guy who created the backbone of the MK series is over rated. MK1 to MK4 will always be the best in the series as far as storyline and characters go.
Thracian_Tsar Wrote:
Tobias is overrated. I don't want him anywhere near MK.
Kittelsen, the comic writer, knows his way around the lore. They should use his input for the next MK.
Tobias is overrated. I don't want him anywhere near MK.
Kittelsen, the comic writer, knows his way around the lore. They should use his input for the next MK.
Lol , yeah, the guy who created the backbone of the MK series is over rated. MK1 to MK4 will always be the best in the series as far as storyline and characters go.
That's the main reason why he's overrated. People see through rose colored nostalgic glasses from the 90s.
That is like saying people hate the prequel films compared to the original 3 Star Wars films because of nostalgia. It makes NO sense considering how both trilogies were told. The classic era of both Star Wars films and MK1-MK4 were told and created with character development. The MK reboot and the prequel Star Wars were depended on the past that it didn't do anything new that fill in gaps that at the end didn't matter.
Just because you have better graphics and voice acting doesn't make MK:DA , MK: Deception, Armageddon, MK9, and MK9 any better than MK1- MK4 era. The classic era may have had text bios and ending, but the way it was written has had a more impact full to the series.
MindStrikes •04/05/2015 03:19 PM (UTC) •
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
That's the main reason why he's overrated. People see through rose colored nostalgic glasses from the 90s.
FROST4584 Wrote:
Lol , yeah, the guy who created the backbone of the MK series is over rated. MK1 to MK4 will always be the best in the series as far as storyline and characters go.
Thracian_Tsar Wrote:
Tobias is overrated. I don't want him anywhere near MK.
Kittelsen, the comic writer, knows his way around the lore. They should use his input for the next MK.
Tobias is overrated. I don't want him anywhere near MK.
Kittelsen, the comic writer, knows his way around the lore. They should use his input for the next MK.
Lol , yeah, the guy who created the backbone of the MK series is over rated. MK1 to MK4 will always be the best in the series as far as storyline and characters go.
That's the main reason why he's overrated. People see through rose colored nostalgic glasses from the 90s.
C'mon dude. The 90s glasses is an overrated statement, its BS. Tobias created most things we love of MK.
QueenAhnka •04/05/2015 03:21 PM (UTC) •
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MindStrikes Wrote:
C'mon dude. The 90s glasses is an overrated statement, its BS. Tobias created most things we love of MK.
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
That's the main reason why he's overrated. People see through rose colored nostalgic glasses from the 90s.
FROST4584 Wrote:
Lol , yeah, the guy who created the backbone of the MK series is over rated. MK1 to MK4 will always be the best in the series as far as storyline and characters go.
Thracian_Tsar Wrote:
Tobias is overrated. I don't want him anywhere near MK.
Kittelsen, the comic writer, knows his way around the lore. They should use his input for the next MK.
Tobias is overrated. I don't want him anywhere near MK.
Kittelsen, the comic writer, knows his way around the lore. They should use his input for the next MK.
Lol , yeah, the guy who created the backbone of the MK series is over rated. MK1 to MK4 will always be the best in the series as far as storyline and characters go.
That's the main reason why he's overrated. People see through rose colored nostalgic glasses from the 90s.
C'mon dude. The 90s glasses is an overrated statement, its BS. Tobias created most things we love of MK.
And I don't disagree, but that doesn't take away from the fact I still feel like Deadly Alliance & Deception were the peak of MK mythology.
Some people however just have the mindset that anything after MK4 is garbage and I find that bullshit.
lastfighter89 •04/05/2015 03:27 PM (UTC) •
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While Tobias is a great artist and the created the Mk lore, The was the main culprit of the mythologies/special forces fiasco.
The has little to no knowledge of gameplay and marketing.
The has little to no knowledge of gameplay and marketing.
Kitsune •04/05/2015 03:37 PM (UTC) •
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Let me explain. For me, Tobias is overrated because his stories were not that good and/or consistent after UMK3. I'm not a huge fan of MK Mythologies, MK4 was a rushed game in every aspect, and MKSF was atrocious.
Tobias left the ship because he didn't want to draw costumes for Scorpion for years to come. He felt exhausted. He stated this in many post-Midway interviews. But his corrupted legacy continued till MK9. It was Tobias' fault that all chicks in MK looked like sluts wearing swimming suits and high heel boots. Thankfully, MKX finally scrapped JT's fetish for females in boots - MKX is the first game that has nothing to do with Tobias in terms of character design.
Tobias is overrated. Boon is the driving force behind the franchise. The best argument is MKX - the game looks great without Tobias. I'm bitching about the amount of stages and the lack of stage fatalities and classic faces, but as I whole I appreciate the game and the leap in terms of quality. On the other hand, Tobias didn't create anything substantial after MK. Tao Feng was a pile of steaming shit - I have no words to describe my disdain against this product.
Tobias is overrated. It's not a fact. It's my opinion and it's well grounded in reality, not pure nostalgia.
Tobias left the ship because he didn't want to draw costumes for Scorpion for years to come. He felt exhausted. He stated this in many post-Midway interviews. But his corrupted legacy continued till MK9. It was Tobias' fault that all chicks in MK looked like sluts wearing swimming suits and high heel boots. Thankfully, MKX finally scrapped JT's fetish for females in boots - MKX is the first game that has nothing to do with Tobias in terms of character design.
Tobias is overrated. Boon is the driving force behind the franchise. The best argument is MKX - the game looks great without Tobias. I'm bitching about the amount of stages and the lack of stage fatalities and classic faces, but as I whole I appreciate the game and the leap in terms of quality. On the other hand, Tobias didn't create anything substantial after MK. Tao Feng was a pile of steaming shit - I have no words to describe my disdain against this product.
Tobias is overrated. It's not a fact. It's my opinion and it's well grounded in reality, not pure nostalgia.
JimmyMaddogJr •04/05/2015 03:47 PM (UTC) •
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Who said the story mode sucks? I don't see any reviews
Joe-Von-Zombie •04/05/2015 03:50 PM (UTC) •
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The storytelling in mortal kombat has always been terrible, anyone who thinks otherwise is wearing some serious nostalgia goggles. The best game in the series from a story perspective is Deadly Alliance which Tobias had nothing to do with.
KenshiMaster16 •04/05/2015 03:54 PM (UTC) •
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JimmyMaddogJr Wrote:
Who said the story mode sucks? I don't see any reviews
Who said the story mode sucks? I don't see any reviews
Pretty much all of it has leaked at this point, via text or video.
thisiscourage •04/05/2015 03:59 PM (UTC) •
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I don't think it's boons fault so much as it is the format of the story mode. It only allows for single path storyline where old mk games had multipath story lines.
MK9 failed in story mode because of the same inhibiting story format.
MK9 failed in story mode because of the same inhibiting story format.
Human-Smoke-4-ever •04/05/2015 04:40 PM (UTC) •
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Why couldn't this ending have happened?
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I wouldn't declare Tobias the Savior of MK. His Post-MK work hasn't really set the World on fire.
I do agree it might be time for some fresh Blood on the creative team though.
I do agree it might be time for some fresh Blood on the creative team though.
QueenAhnka •04/05/2015 04:43 PM (UTC) •
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Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
The best game in the series from a story perspective is Deadly Alliance which Tobias had nothing to do with.
The best game in the series from a story perspective is Deadly Alliance which Tobias had nothing to do with.
Exactly
Blade4693 •04/05/2015 04:47 PM (UTC) •
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I wont be reading past the OP due to not wanting to be too spoiled, but I think it would be amazing if Tobias came back to help with MK, but unfortunately, I don't see it happening ever.
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