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07/01/2014 05:41 PM (UTC)
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DVorah Wrote:
Reptile is a Raptor, not a Human.

And if you like thse non-human characters, why you want the non-human raptor to be human-formed again in MKX?


Because I can.
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thisiscourage
07/01/2014 05:52 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
DVorah Wrote:
Reptile is a Raptor, not a Human.

And if you like thse non-human characters, why you want the non-human raptor to be human-formed again in MKX?


Because I can.


boom roasted.

I want him to be disguised as a human again because I like the idea of him hiding his identity, I think he will have a stronger role to play in the story if this happens. (NRS will have to explain why he is disguising himself)

PLEASE let him talk! A slithery snake like voice, straight up standard voice for any lizard creature you see in the movies. Just something please.

If he does not appear in human then please let it be this form: http://www.game-art-hq.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Reptile-MK-2010-Concept-Series-Mortal-Kombat-Game-Character-Fan-Art-by-ScorpionBlaze.jpg

Because that is the best design I have ever seen of Reptile, He looks sinister, he looks intimidating, He is a damn lizard, and he is dressed like a ninja/assassin. If he looked like this then I would never ask for human reptile again.

I guess what I am realizing is, is that, I want him to look like a bad ass.

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DVorah
07/01/2014 07:56 PM (UTC)
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Lol, you can't roast me darlin, but nice try.

Anyway, somebody at the studio's saw a drawing of a reptilian creature design, so big chance I get what I want, and you are left crying in the rain. wink Ow and btw, Reptile disguised himself in MK1 and 2, not in MK4 and up, and that's where we are now. YOu cant have that horrible download with the rainbow ninja's in it for all I care, i'm sure Boon will give that to the fans of scorpion clones.
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Onaga
07/01/2014 08:04 PM (UTC)
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thisiscourage Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
DVorah Wrote:
Reptile is a Raptor, not a Human.

And if you like thse non-human characters, why you want the non-human raptor to be human-formed again in MKX?


Because I can.


boom roasted.

I want him to be disguised as a human again because I like the idea of him hiding his identity, I think he will have a stronger role to play in the story if this happens. (NRS will have to explain why he is disguising himself)

PLEASE let him talk! A slithery snake like voice, straight up standard voice for any lizard creature you see in the movies. Just something please.

So a voice like Cobra Jafars' voice?

I don't know I think a voice closer to Dinobots would be a little more fitting and also make it easier for people to take him seriously.

And as for a reason for him to disguise himself as "human" again.. something
Like say if there was a small outworld/Edenian resistance which he was infiltrating for the throne so he would have to hide his identity to earn their trust?

Only reason I can think of that he would ever even have to disguise himself as something resembling humans.
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07/01/2014 09:51 PM (UTC)
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DVorah Wrote:
Lol, you can't roast me darlin, but nice try.

Anyway, somebody at the studio's saw a drawing of a reptilian creature design, so big chance I get what I want, and you are left crying in the rain. wink
Ow and btw, Reptile disguised himself in MK1 and 2, not in MK4 and up, and that's where we are now. YOu cant have that horrible download with the rainbow ninja's in it for all I care, i'm sure Boon will give that to the fans of scorpion clones.
Roasting you isn't hard. You roast yourself daily....
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thisiscourage
07/01/2014 10:33 PM (UTC)
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DVorah Wrote:
Lol, you can't roast me darlin, but nice try.

Anyway, somebody at the studio's saw a drawing of a reptilian creature design, so big chance I get what I want, and you are left crying in the rain. wink
Ow and btw, Reptile disguised himself in MK1 and 2, not in MK4 and up, and that's where we are now. YOu cant have that horrible download with the rainbow ninja's in it for all I care, i'm sure Boon will give that to the fans of scorpion clones.


I think you mean mk2 - umk3. But no I am not in favor of Scorpion pallette swaps and I doubt anyone else in this thread is, I think we all want an original design in the new Era of mortal kombat, something that provides us with nostalgia; yet a fresh take on human reptile.

I for one will not be satisfied with a dlc of classic uniforms. I want originally. I've wanted an original human design for reptile since mk4. And now in an age where we can accomplish amazing things graphically, I want it even more.

We could see human skin being ripped off during the match to show scaly green underneath, his mouth under his mask can be mutilated as his lizard mouth reaches to meet his fake human face.
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RazorsEdge701
07/01/2014 11:27 PM (UTC)
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The most interesting thing about the "human disguise" for me is that there's been no canon explanation for HOW the skin works...

So I'd like to ask a question for everyone who DOES want to see "Human Reptile" come back:

HOW would you like it to be implemented, artistically?

There's pretty much 2 options, which one would you prefer?

1) He's using his chameleon power to make his scales the color of human skin.
We've actually seen this one before, in Shaolin Monks' Versus Mode. If both players pick Reptile, P2 will look human-colored but still have the texture of the scales. You also tend to see this method used in fan art. I've drawn Reptile this way a couple times myself.

or 2) He actually skinned a dude and is wearing it like a suit.

Thing is, if he's wearing another person's skin, it needs to look like it, it needs to maybe be baggy and not fit right and/or rotting, like the bad guy in Men in Black 1, or it should have stitched up areas and holes in it that you can see the real Reptile through. It's not realistic to have it look tight to his arms and healthy like he's a normal human being and not in disguise, like the MK9 Retro outfit.

I've seen several people suggest that they'd like to see it done this way and it does sound interesting, if gruesome (some suggest that's what makes it MK-esque), but here's the kicker: I've never actually seen anyone ever draw art of this idea, so maybe it's not that popular?
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Icebaby
07/01/2014 11:37 PM (UTC)
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He's probably Buffalo Bill-ing it. That's how I see Reptile being able to wear skin.
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07/01/2014 11:45 PM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
The most interesting thing about the "human disguise" for me is that there's been no canon explanation for HOW the skin works...

So I'd like to ask a question for everyone who DOES want to see "Human Reptile" come back:

HOW would you like it to be implemented, artistically?

There's pretty much 2 options, which one would you prefer?

1) He's using his chameleon power to make his scales the color of human skin.
We've actually seen this one before, in Shaolin Monks' Versus Mode. If both players pick Reptile, P2 will look human-colored but still have the texture of the scales. You also tend to see this method used in fan art. I've drawn Reptile this way a couple times myself.

or 2) He actually skinned a dude and is wearing it like a suit.

Thing is, if he's wearing another person's skin, it needs to look like it, it needs to maybe be baggy and not fit right and/or rotting, like the bad guy in Men in Black 1, or it should have stitched up areas and holes in it that you can see the real Reptile through. It's not realistic to have it look tight to his arms and healthy like he's a normal human being and not in disguise, like the MK9 Retro outfit.

I've seen several people suggest that they'd like to see it done this way and it does sound interesting, if gruesome (some suggest that's what makes it MK-esque), but here's the kicker: I've never actually seen anyone ever draw art of this idea, so maybe it's not that popular?


If I had to choose one, I'd favor the former. The idea of a baggy-skinned Reptile just doesn't sound good to me, but I can see him having scales that can mimick different tones and hues (even if he can't manipulate or hide the texture/appearance of said scales).

His inability to actually make the scales look like smooth flesh could actually be a catalyst for some interesting costumes. For example, he might take great pains to cover every part of his body in order to minimize the chance someone might notice the scaly texture. Only part of his face would remain open. Otherwise, he's basically covered all over.

Serves a nice fail-safe for him; even though he's able to mimick human skin tones, it's best to keep the flesh covered still just in case.

Just a thought.
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07/02/2014 12:23 AM (UTC)
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07/02/2014 12:33 AM (UTC)
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From memory, the only Ninja characters that didn't do shit based on their name is Scorpion, Ermac and Noob Saibot (which is just a joke name).

I just think that it would make sense for a character whose name is Reptile to look, shit I dunno, Reptilian?
It wouldn't make sense to me for him to have human skin and the only ounce of any Reptilian proof appearance is his Acid Spit attack, and Fatalities, assuming he takes his mask off....oh wait, just like MK II.

I believe Reptile hasn't Primarily don the human look since Ultimate.
Have your opinion all you want, but have you guys ever stop to think that the developers have finally made up their mind on how they want their own character to look?

If anything, to please both parties:
Make his Primary costume with his Reptilian form.
And his Alternate costume can have the human flesh, ONLY if his battle damage eventually shows pieces of flesh torn off to reveal scales.

Oh, or Variations making up for the skins.

tongue
The cool thing about old school human reptile was he was this seemingly human ninja who turned into this monster during his fatalities.

with 3 different versions of each character in mkx no reason one of them can't be human reptile.
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07/02/2014 12:50 AM (UTC)
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WeaponTheory Wrote:
From memory, the only Ninja characters that didn't do shit based on their name is Scorpion, Ermac and Noob Saibot (which is just a joke name).

I just think that it would make sense for a character whose name is Reptile to look, shit I dunno, Reptilian?
It wouldn't make sense to me for him to have human skin and the only ounce of any Reptilian proof appearance is his Acid Spit attack, and Fatalities, assuming he takes his mask off....oh wait, just like MK II.

I believe Reptile hasn't Primarily don the human look since Ultimate.
Have your opinion all you want, but have you guys ever stop to think that the developers have finally made up their mind on how they want their own character to look?

If anything, to please both parties:
Make his Primary costume with his Reptilian form.
And his Alternate costume can have the human flesh, ONLY if his battle damage eventually shows pieces of flesh torn off to reveal scales.

Oh, or Variations making up for the skins.

tongue


I took his appearance in the last game as a way of them doing away with the full on human form of Reptile from the digitized days and just saying

"Nope, if we could have this is what he would have looked like from day one so from now on this is as Human as Reptile gets"

Really wish we could all just accept that things looked the way they did because again they were limited with what they could do back in the 90's and embrace the "true" artistic vision of these characters.
The best solution would be to make a good human looking Reptile costume something akin to Shaolin Monks, that MKII commercial or what Jax007 did.. So you have that but he's still green and scaley so still not "Human Reptile".

Well then turn the P2 color of his skin peach-like making it look like a human disguise (assuming we can pick P2 colors again, which would be nice). Add a variation that can have him unmasked to remind you of MK4 Reptile

Then the Alternate should be something MK:DA-ish, more primal more bestial.
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07/02/2014 03:35 AM (UTC)
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WeaponTheory Wrote:
From memory, the only Ninja characters that didn't do shit based on their name is Scorpion


The spear's like a stinger tail, man.

WeaponTheory Wrote:
Have your opinion all you want, but have you guys ever stop to think that the developers have finally made up their mind on how they want their own character to look?


I agree with you that they were limited by the graphics and now they're making him look how they want him to, so his Shaolin Monks/MK9 look is fine...but the thing is...his disguise used to be part of his story too.

There's an element of MK1 Reptile that was ENTIRELY about him trying to hide by at times remaining invisible, at times disguising himself as a human and blending into the crowd, because he was a bodyguard and part of that job involves not letting people who are trying to attack your boss know you're there, so that when they make their move, you can jump out and stop them.

And that being retconned out in MK9 and him just being a random Outworld competitor in the tournament that fights in the first fuckin' match and gets eliminated right away made his story a lot more boring. So, y'know, it's part of the whole "next time they remake again, let's be truer to what the old version said 'cuz it had more detail" campaign.
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07/02/2014 09:17 AM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
The most interesting thing about the "human disguise" for me is that there's been no canon explanation for HOW the skin works...


This was answered years ago. Magic statues.
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07/31/2014 09:18 PM (UTC)
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Sorry I keep beating a dead horse. But I just came across this concept art. I didn't realize until right now that NRS was considering human reptile for MK9, WHAT THE HELLL. It was so closeeee. Check out the image below or in my sig:



The costume design is everything I have ever wanted for reptile. It is original and it is human. Damn, it was THAT close to being reality. Sadface.
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08/01/2014 05:03 AM (UTC)
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Onaga Wrote:
WeaponTheory Wrote:
From memory, the only Ninja characters that didn't do shit based on their name is Scorpion, Ermac and Noob Saibot (which is just a joke name).

I just think that it would make sense for a character whose name is Reptile to look, shit I dunno, Reptilian?
It wouldn't make sense to me for him to have human skin and the only ounce of any Reptilian proof appearance is his Acid Spit attack, and Fatalities, assuming he takes his mask off....oh wait, just like MK II.

I believe Reptile hasn't Primarily don the human look since Ultimate.
Have your opinion all you want, but have you guys ever stop to think that the developers have finally made up their mind on how they want their own character to look?

If anything, to please both parties:
Make his Primary costume with his Reptilian form.
And his Alternate costume can have the human flesh, ONLY if his battle damage eventually shows pieces of flesh torn off to reveal scales.

Oh, or Variations making up for the skins.

tongue


I took his appearance in the last game as a way of them doing away with the full on human form of Reptile from the digitized days and just saying

"Nope, if we could have this is what he would have looked like from day one so from now on this is as Human as Reptile gets"

Really wish we could all just accept that things looked the way they did because again they were limited with what they could do back in the 90's and embrace the "true" artistic vision of these characters.


But Reptile still was a quick character Ed threw in for fun like the other secret characters and Rain with a tacked on story by John Tobias.I don't think there was much of an artistic vision.

thisiscourage Wrote:
Sorry I keep beating a dead horse. But I just came across this concept art. I didn't realize until right now that NRS was considering human reptile for MK9, WHAT THE HELLL. It was so closeeee. Check out the image below or in my sig:


The costume design is everything I have ever wanted for reptile. It is original and it is human. Damn, it was THAT close to being reality. Sadface.


Yeah you're pretty late on that. That stuff was posted on these boards one point in time...
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08/01/2014 08:16 AM (UTC)
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thisiscourage Wrote:

The costume design is everything I have ever wanted for reptile. It is original and it is human. Damn, it was THAT close to being reality. Sadface.


It is human but you can't say it's original. From that distance -and if you couldn't see the green- it could be anyone. Reptile, Smoke, Rain, Sub Zero. It's very generic and unoriginal and I think the team knew this, that's why they went for his reptilian look.
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08/01/2014 08:55 AM (UTC)
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Okay, I ́m not the one to have many demands on Reptile, as he was never on my favorites list for a long time. But then there was MK9 and Reptile was fun to play with! I guess Reptile was for me the best of both worlds. He had all of his signature moves from the classics back. Plus he did not look human. This was pretty much fantastic! I ́ve spent more time with Reptile than any other MK game. So my bet is that this the best version of Reptile ever.

It ́s all a personal opinion, keep that in mind. I don ́t mean to bash those who are fan of his human look.

RazorsEdge701 Wrote:

1) He's using his chameleon power to make his scales the color of human skin.
We've actually seen this one before, in Shaolin Monks' Versus Mode. If both players pick Reptile, P2 will look human-colored but still have the texture of the scales. You also tend to see this method used in fan art. I've drawn Reptile this way a couple times myself.


This one i remember. If they choose to let Reptile be in MKX (I fear for him though) and they're going implement his human look... this should be the way to do it. I don't want him human, but if this returns, I can live with it.

Do you still have those drawings? I would love to see them smile
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08/01/2014 08:57 AM (UTC)
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The only thing I didn't like on MK2011 Reptile was his reptilian face, it looked ugly, more reptilian would have been nice in the face details.

But then again, all girls looked like they weren't always girls... very ugly manly faces, especially Sonya, Sindel, Kitana and Jade.
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08/01/2014 10:43 AM (UTC)
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Zwulle Wrote:
Do you still have those drawings? I would love to see them smile


Click on my signature.
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thisiscourage
08/01/2014 03:48 PM (UTC)
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From Rain hints thread:
I'm glad you asked. @projectzero

There is quite a bit of detail that you can see from the drawing. He is wearing scale armor, as in reptilian scales. So it is an original design. I wouldn't expect to see that type of garb on any other character or ninja for that matter.

The main reason why I want to see human reptile is because he is actually not human.. if that makes sense. @Scar-Subby said it flawlessly so I will enter his words now:

Scar_Subby Wrote:

I will like Reptile again if he can go back to changing into his Reptilian form at will. This whole de-evolution thing just does not make fucking sense to me. However, him being able to blend with humans makes him ten times more dangerous and way cooler than being the lame ass he is now. He's just lizard man. It makes me even more pissed off when I seen that concept art where he was fully human looking in MK9. Only to get what we got. Ugh. See, I actually do like Reptile. I just don't like the abomination of a punching bag he's become. If they can't do anything better with him then put a new Zaterran in.


The way I have always envisioned reptile is as the master of illusion and elusion. He is supposed to be the best at avoiding contact. His entire entry into the game was based on him sneaking around the first tournament. AND HE WAS DISGUISED AS A HUMAN!

The thing I love most about reptile is that he is NOT human. But inorder for that to be special he must have his human counterpart. You see?

Basically my point is that I am super bummed that NRS came THAT CLOSE to making him the way I have always wanted him to be. And apparently at the last second said "nah fuck it, let's make him a lackey bitch! YAY!"
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08/01/2014 10:33 PM (UTC)
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Zwulle Wrote:
Do you still have those drawings? I would love to see them smile


Click on my signature.


Fan...fucking...tastic!

Great work of art! I could tell by your enormous amount of visits you're are veteran around here, which had my respect. And you've taken all other respect with those fine pieces of art. Really great!

To stay on topic, that's a human Reptile I could work with. There'still an obvious Reptle underneath the human skin, so it would be okay smile
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08/01/2014 11:46 PM (UTC)
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How can anyone not like this concept/design...



That is what he should look like. Reptile is part lizard/crocodile/dinosaur. He is not a raptor or such.

Hoping for a revamp of his MKDA design for MKX.
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