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Wanderer
02/27/2011 03:28 PM (UTC)
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I'm in the minority of those who like Deadly Alliance Reptile.

It was a good design, but they didn't really capitalize on it. His tail was cosmetic, for instance, and didn't seem to do anything except lay around.

If Mortal Kombat ever gets to that point again I do hope his DA look is used again, even if they have to split Ninja and Lizardman into two distinct characters just to take advantage of Lizardman's tail in gameplay.
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Icebaby
02/27/2011 05:44 PM (UTC)
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Milaana Wrote:
I like his MK4 and Armageddon looks most, non ninja (mostly) and not human looking.

Perfect, I hate all his human-clone costumes, that is just silly and boring, its a lizardman, not some horrid human, we have enough of those already, if you like humans go play sub-zero, sonya and jax will ya.


Ow and Icebaby think she is a godess or something, she can do everything and other can do none, really irritating, she is the reason I hate smoke, I am a troll and everything, she creates trolls, really.
All the boys just agree with her because their dicks tell them too.


First of all you freak, the reason why I forgot where they decided to put a tail on Reptile is because it was told in Konquest mode. Little does everyone know how the hell I play games is that there were particular characters I played during that mode, which Reptile was not one of them, so I didn't realize that it stated in his Konquest story.

Second of all, it's been years since I played Deadly Alliance, you honestly think I need to remember every single goddamn fucking detail this game carries? No, I'm not a Goddess, I am in Perfect Dark, but not in Mortal Kombat

You hate Smoke because of me, you hate me because I tell you off and tell you to stop being a goddamn troll. I don't want people to agree with me all the time because its their opinions, they have voices too. But you, you come into a thread, trying to start off an argument, and by all means it worked, you were warned by countless of users and a mod about your behavior and ordering you to knock it off... Are you mental or something? It doesn't take a rocket science to understand that what you're doing is bullshit.

Stop calling me out, stop trying to start arguments with every single thread, and stop being a troll!

I'm sick and tired of you calling me out, when you learn how to actually be nice to other users and stop trolling threads with your illogical reasons and stop being such a jerk, I'll be nicer to you, otherwise you can forget about it.


Getting on topic, Reptile is green, no lizard tail for next appearance. His mask atrocious and I gotta go exercise.
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McNasty
02/27/2011 05:56 PM (UTC)
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Can't we all just get along and shut our mouths.

If you really believe "If women ruled the world there would be no wars. Just a bunch of jealous countries not talking to each other," then practice what that says and turn the other cheek.

Everyone just grow up and let the little crap go. It's really not that serious...

(and No, I'm not calling you out, I'm just using that as an example. I'm really calling everyone out.)
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Locusta
02/28/2011 03:44 PM (UTC)
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If women ruled the world, there would be LESS conflict in the world.


Women did once "rule" but it was a long long time ago. Read "The White Goddess" by Robert Graves. Pre-Greek Matriarchy, Goddess Mysteries, Medusa was a priestess, not a monster. Patriarch-cults of Zeus and Apollo took over, and look what it's done for us....


OH sorry lol! reptile is better as a lizardman, but a tail? I don't think he needs it....but it makes little sense for a reptile to have no tail. His design looks best as a reptileman-ninja who has no tail. Too human or too lizardlike kind of throws him off for me.
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Icebaby
02/28/2011 04:26 PM (UTC)
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*Facepalm*

No one understands that the "if women ruled the world," is just there for laughs. There is nothing significant behind it.

Besides not liking his Deadly Alliance appearance whatsoever, it would have made things slightly better if his tail was actually used in a move. I mean come on, if I had a tail, I'd definitely use it in a move of some sort. And with Reptile's moves with tripping and sliding, how could you not use his tail in some fashion?
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Jaded-Raven
02/28/2011 05:58 PM (UTC)
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If women ruled the world... Well, they already do. Behind every leading man is a woman leading the man. ;P

But that's rather off-topic.
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ICEgrenade
02/28/2011 10:20 PM (UTC)
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Human Reptile all the way. I loved it how he would hide his reptilian flesh like Scorpion hides his burning skull. His primary in this game would make more since to me as his alternate. That's why Im getting his classic look from amazon.


i couldnt agree more!! i LOVED the idea of "i could kill you as a green ninja buuut suprise!! i have a lizard head with a loong sticky tongue" tongue
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Jaded-Raven
03/01/2011 10:59 PM (UTC)
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ICEgrenade Wrote:
heartoffire Wrote:
Human Reptile all the way. I loved it how he would hide his reptilian flesh like Scorpion hides his burning skull. His primary in this game would make more since to me as his alternate. That's why Im getting his classic look from amazon.


i couldnt agree more!! i LOVED the idea of "i could kill you as a green ninja buuut suprise!! i have a lizard head with a loong sticky tongue" tongue


But Scorpion already does something similar with his skull under his mask. Reptile should step away from the palette swap curse that was put him and become his own unique design, and that is what NRS has done with him in this new game. No, the design is not perfect, but it's a step in the right direction.
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McNasty
03/02/2011 01:20 AM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
*Facepalm*

No one understands that the "if women ruled the world," is just there for laughs. There is nothing significant behind it.

Besides not liking his Deadly Alliance appearance whatsoever, it would have made things slightly better if his tail was actually used in a move. I mean come on, if I had a tail, I'd definitely use it in a move of some sort. And with Reptile's moves with tripping and sliding, how could you not use his tail in some fashion?


Dont' worry, it was extreme sarcasm. I really don't care enough.

However, I do agree with you about his tail. If he's going to have it, it should do something and not just be dead wait. On the plus side, I think having them screw that up led us a new design so we don't have to see the alligator anymore.
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McNasty
03/02/2011 01:25 AM (UTC)
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ICEgrenade Wrote:
heartoffire Wrote:
Human Reptile all the way. I loved it how he would hide his reptilian flesh like Scorpion hides his burning skull. His primary in this game would make more since to me as his alternate. That's why Im getting his classic look from amazon.


i couldnt agree more!! i LOVED the idea of "i could kill you as a green ninja buuut suprise!! i have a lizard head with a loong sticky tongue" tongue


I love the surprise aspect... but I should say I LOVED the surprise aspect, emphasis on the past tense.

It was an amazing surprise back in the early stages of the game. However, now everyone has seen Reptiles full potential as a character and we know everything about his backstory and race. The surprise is gone. The cat/lizard is out of the bag now... might as well take advantage of it and make something memorable and special, like MKSM Reptile.
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Icebaby
03/02/2011 01:51 AM (UTC)
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Yeah I deserved that skull, but it was for a good cause... Enough with that bullshit though,

McNasty Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
*Facepalm*

No one understands that the "if women ruled the world," is just there for laughs. There is nothing significant behind it.

Besides not liking his Deadly Alliance appearance whatsoever, it would have made things slightly better if his tail was actually used in a move. I mean come on, if I had a tail, I'd definitely use it in a move of some sort. And with Reptile's moves with tripping and sliding, how could you not use his tail in some fashion?


Dont' worry, it was extreme sarcasm. I really don't care enough.

However, I do agree with you about his tail. If he's going to have it, it should do something and not just be dead wait. On the plus side, I think having them screw that up led us a new design so we don't have to see the alligator anymore.


It was a horrible design. Granted that Boon said that they designed him like that because of the whole Onaga story, but still... they gave him a tail that floated in the wind and was useless. Whether or not they had intentions on using that tail, they didn't take any opportunity to make that tail into a great weapon for him to use.

If I was a reptilian creature that had a tail, I would definitely use that to use in a fight. But the design of the entire costume was just incredibly horrible that I seriously hope the artists learned their lesson into never making that disaster again.
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ICEgrenade
03/02/2011 04:22 AM (UTC)
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McNasty Wrote:
ICEgrenade Wrote:
heartoffire Wrote:
Human Reptile all the way. I loved it how he would hide his reptilian flesh like Scorpion hides his burning skull. His primary in this game would make more since to me as his alternate. That's why Im getting his classic look from amazon.


i couldnt agree more!! i LOVED the idea of "i could kill you as a green ninja buuut suprise!! i have a lizard head with a loong sticky tongue" tongue


I love the surprise aspect... but I should say I LOVED the surprise aspect, emphasis on the past tense.

It was an amazing surprise back in the early stages of the game. However, now everyone has seen Reptiles full potential as a character and we know everything about his backstory and race. The surprise is gone. The cat/lizard is out of the bag now... might as well take advantage of it and make something memorable and special, like MKSM Reptile.

I see your point but how i see it is that EVERYONE knows scorpion has a burning skull for a face why not just lose the mask? so why can scorpion keep the surprise and not reptile? is it only cause more than one fighter uses the "im not really a ninja im a [insert name here]" gimic?
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RazorsEdge701
03/02/2011 05:00 AM (UTC)
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ICEgrenade Wrote:
I see your point but how i see it is that EVERYONE knows scorpion has a burning skull for a face why not just lose the mask?


You could say the same about Reptile though.

At least Scorpion's mask-face IS actually the face of Hanzo Hasashi, that's what he really looked like when he was alive. It's just that he can rip his own face off now because he's dead.

Reptile's skin isn't really his, it's only good for hiding his true self. And MK1 is the only time when none of the heroes would know Reptile's not human because they've never met him before. By MK2 and 3, the secret's out. Everyone knows he's scaly and green underneath so why bother with the disguise? He's not fooling anyone anymore.
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03/02/2011 07:57 AM (UTC)
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Wanderer Wrote:
If Mortal Kombat ever gets to that point again I do hope his DA look is used again,


I think it's a pretty fair guess that MK will never advance to a DA-ish point ever again.
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ICEgrenade
03/03/2011 07:30 PM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
ICEgrenade Wrote:
I see your point but how i see it is that EVERYONE knows scorpion has a burning skull for a face why not just lose the mask?


You could say the same about Reptile though.

At least Scorpion's mask-face IS actually the face of Hanzo Hasashi, that's what he really looked like when he was alive. It's just that he can rip his own face off now because he's dead.

Reptile's skin isn't really his, it's only good for hiding his true self. And MK1 is the only time when none of the heroes would know Reptile's not human because they've never met him before. By MK2 and 3, the secret's out. Everyone knows he's scaly and green underneath so why bother with the disguise? He's not fooling anyone anymore.


thats true.. well the newer characters wouldnt know! tongue
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03/03/2011 07:34 PM (UTC)
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OptimusGrime Wrote:

I think it's a pretty fair guess that MK will never advance to a DA-ish point ever again.

I actually wouldn't be against seeing MK4-MKD get the same makeover as MK1-MK3 are getting right now. MK4 in particular is just begging for an update.
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03/03/2011 07:38 PM (UTC)
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MK2 look for me!
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Zmoke
03/03/2011 07:51 PM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
ICEgrenade Wrote:
I see your point but how i see it is that EVERYONE knows scorpion has a burning skull for a face why not just lose the mask?


You could say the same about Reptile though.

At least Scorpion's mask-face IS actually the face of Hanzo Hasashi, that's what he really looked like when he was alive. It's just that he can rip his own face off now because he's dead.

Reptile's skin isn't really his, it's only good for hiding his true self. And MK1 is the only time when none of the heroes would know Reptile's not human because they've never met him before. By MK2 and 3, the secret's out. Everyone knows he's scaly and green underneath so why bother with the disguise? He's not fooling anyone anymore.


Story-wise he might still retain retain his disguise what comes people who don't know him yet. Disguises have been utterly easy to use in Mortal Kombat anyway (Mileena - Kitana). Every player knows what he is by now but his forth-coming victims might not. It doesn't make much sense that Reptile wears his mask in the reptilian form because he is knowingly the last male Zaterran. Unless he carries it in case he will alter his skin or, it's a muzzle like with dogs.
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03/03/2011 08:05 PM (UTC)
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T-rex Wrote:
OptimusGrime Wrote:

I think it's a pretty fair guess that MK will never advance to a DA-ish point ever again.

I actually wouldn't be against seeing MK4-MKD get the same makeover as MK1-MK3 are getting right now. MK4 in particular is just begging for an update.


Oh, don't get me wrong. I'd like to see the new timeline move forward, but I feel pretty confident NRS will be either sticking close to the series 'classic' period from now on, or trying other offbeat projects like Shaolin Monks or Vs DCU. Hell, I fully expect a game based on Rebirth somewhere down the line.
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03/03/2011 08:10 PM (UTC)
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I kinda always hated his plain ninja look. I like the MK9 design and also the MK.SM design the best.
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T-rex
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03/03/2011 08:20 PM (UTC)
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OptimusGrime Wrote:

Oh, don't get me wrong. I'd like to see the new timeline move forward, but I feel pretty confident NRS will be either sticking close to the series 'classic' period from now on, or trying other offbeat projects like Shaolin Monks or Vs DCU. Hell, I fully expect a game based on Rebirth somewhere down the line.

I'm actually hoping for exactly the opposite.

This game is undoubtedly going to be the most glorious sendoff to classic MK era imaginable.

But once the team gets all of that classic MK out of their system,I fully expect them to continue the storyline further.

This can be done in two ways.

Like I said before they could give MK4-MKD the same remake treatment and making them absolutely perfect this time around,making all the new characters more awesome,retconning away the stupid shit like Dairou NOT being a ronin mercenary and implementing all the things they were going to do the first time around,but couldn't because FUCKING MIDWAY.

Or they could just have the characters prevent Armageddon,effectively erasing that game from continuity,and have the new game continue where Deception left off. If they do that,I'm actually hoping for a brand new chapter in the MK Saga. Like,a brand new generation of warriors and everything,a generation where Fujin is the Protector of Earthrealm,and Liu Kang is the legendary hero of the old,not the great Kung Lao. Sort of like what Armageddon was supposed to ultimately achieve,except minus the bullshit.

Although a Shaolin Monks 2 is fine too.
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03/03/2011 10:01 PM (UTC)
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T-rex Wrote:
But once the team gets all of that classic MK out of their system,I fully expect them to continue the storyline further.


I'm not so sure that its a matter of getting it out of their system, though. I think NRS and WB realize that this is MK in it's most marketable form.

Like I said before they could give MK4-MKD the same remake treatment and making them absolutely perfect this time around,making all the new characters more awesome,retconning away the stupid shit like Dairou NOT being a ronin mercenary and implementing all the things they were going to do the first time around,but couldn't because FUCKING MIDWAY.


I'd like to see this myself, but the problem is there's no nostalgia to mine from the 3D era. It would be odd at best and foolish at the worst for the developer to revisit a period that the fandom has largely turned on and that the casual fan or non fan is barely aware of.

Or they could just have the characters prevent Armageddon,effectively erasing that game from continuity,and have the new game continue where Deception left off. If they do that,I'm actually hoping for a brand new chapter in the MK Saga. Like,a brand new generation of warriors and everything,a generation where Fujin is the Protector of Earthrealm,and Liu Kang is the legendary hero of the old,not the great Kung Lao. Sort of like what Armageddon was supposed to ultimately achieve,except minus the bullshit.


I could see that working as a side game (or even as spinoff media), but that would break the core series. Look at the violent reception toward Vs DCU. You'd have that a thousand fold if you jettison the established cast and backdrops for something that's starting from scratch.
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03/03/2011 10:31 PM (UTC)
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OptimusGrime Wrote:

I'd like to see this myself, but the problem is there's no nostalgia to mine from the 3D era. It would be odd at best and foolish at the worst for the developer to revisit a period that the fandom has largely turned on and that the casual fan or non fan is barely aware of.

With all due respect,bro,this is nonsense.

I don't want MK to turn into the shitfest that Capcom has turned SF into. I don't want them to keep rehashing the same characters and designs over and over. Consistency when it comes to character portrayal is good,sure,but not like this,man. Not like this. The rainbow ninja fangasm we're having right now came at a perfect time,and we're all having a blast riding that wave,but there is a good reason the series has evolved past them.

And of course there is no nostalgia in the 3D games. Not when compared to the original trilogy we all grew up on,the unforgettable arcade experience it brought,the way it changed videogames forever and the way it embedded itself in the mass consciousness. It was a phenomenon that's impossible to replicate.

But all it means is that MK has firmly established its place in the hearts and minds of everyone familiar with it. The original games laid the foundation for future stories to be built upon it. It doesn't mean we can just drop everything and quietly rot in a putrid cesspool of rehashing 20-year old ideas and images like Street Fighter has been doing.

If MK didn't move forward,we wouldn't even have MK2 and MK3.

Of course the new characters weren't accepted as well as the veterans. That's because they are fucking NEW,and many people didn't even give them a chance.

Point is,while the 3D games may not necessarily be nostalgic,it doesn't change the fact that there was plenty of good things in them. It doesn't change the fact that of all the games in the series,MKDA was clearly the best one. And it doesn't change the fact that whatever bad decisions were in those games,many of them could be attributed to technical limitations and time constraints. If given the chance to do them again under their current circumstances,I'm positive NRS can make them just as fucking awesome as this game is shaping up to be.

OptimusGrime Wrote:
Look at the violent reception toward Vs DCU.

MKvsDC wasn't received violently because it dropped the established cast and started from scratch. Far from it - it actually featured the most unquestionably iconic and classic characters in the series.

It was received violently because it had Scorpion fighting fucking Superman.

OptimusGrime Wrote:
You'd have that a thousand fold if you jettison the established cast and backdrops for something that's starting from scratch.

It wouldn't be starting from scratch. They'd still have all of the established canon and the elaborately crafted universe to lean on to.

Not to mention that even a 50-year timeskip wouldn't in any way affect many of the characters. Scorpion is undead. Sub-Zero's Medallion slows his aging. Fujin is a god. Kitana is Edenian.

And Kung Lao replaces Bo Rai Cho as the token Badass Old Kung Fu Master.

Shit could be glorious.
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fjspider
03/03/2011 10:55 PM (UTC)
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I'm surprised not many have said his MKSM costume which imo is the best. His new mk9 look is only "OK" 4 me, I ain't really digging it though.
Getting back on topic, I feel the new Reptile is a near perfect combination of his former incarnations. Humanoid, but still a little wild. Not a ninja, not a lizard. I'm excited to play as him. Hopefully with the tour and PAX, we'll get a lot more video of him.
And who knows what his other alternate costumes are?
Oh, and I am in the minority here, but I don't like his SM look.
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