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Registheman
12/08/2010 01:26 PM (UTC)
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You mean God Of Wind lol.Fujin's my man I wish he was in this but I new the only character past mk3 that any chance was Quhan Chi.
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Nephrite
12/08/2010 01:32 PM (UTC)
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Yeah, I expected Quan Chi as well and I don't mind. I think he's one of the better characters in MK.

I hope they add more of post MKT characters and I'm still hoping for Fujin to make it as DLC at least...
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LordThunder
12/08/2010 01:53 PM (UTC)
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Ok from the start I knew the chances of Fujin being in were slim to none but I will say I'd rather have Kratos than Fujin.....sadly.
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Shinomune
12/08/2010 01:53 PM (UTC)
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I understand the "against" for tournament motives. The rest, is sorely points of view, not facts. And I want my Marcus Phoenix (or Dom, Dom is better) for 360. And if someone disagree... me and my Lancer we can argue "amicably"... grin
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Keith
12/08/2010 01:57 PM (UTC)
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Again, as long as all UMK3 characters make it into the game I have no issue with extra characters. But any character losing their place to Quan Chi and Kratos will annoy me.
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RazorsEdge701
12/08/2010 02:01 PM (UTC)
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Well he's non-canon and I own an Xbox, so this is all fine by me.
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12/08/2010 02:04 PM (UTC)
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Meh, that's cool with me. Kratos is a cool dude, and as long as his inclusion is treated by NRS as a bonus addition and not part of the main content, that's fine (in other words, the game better come as complete roster-wise as if it Kratos were never in it).


damn right! couldn't have said it better myself.
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skarygary
12/08/2010 02:33 PM (UTC)
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i think this is awesome!
ppl seem to forget this game is all about story mode and the arcade mode will basicly be a glorified practice. so having a bonus character to fool around and have fun with in arcade mode is fine by me,

this is a vide game after all it should be fun and entertaining and kratos will not take away from either
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12/08/2010 02:56 PM (UTC)
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why? D: why put more guest characters in MK, especially in this one? if he's gonna be in the game at least make him DLC so he doesn't take the spot away from a real character.
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12/08/2010 02:57 PM (UTC)
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I'm pretty pumped Kratos is in. Just makes me want it even more.
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12/08/2010 03:24 PM (UTC)
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I like this idea. Do I want Kratos on my select screen? No. But if he's DLC, then I think it's a cool option for PS3 fans that like MK and like GOW and think that the two are a match made in heaven (or hell, if you will).

As for the 360, my mind is kind of drawing a blank.

Gears of War seems rather obvious, but do those characters look at all like they'd fit in to MK? I guess if Stryker can use a gun and bombs, so can Marcus but the Gears guys are so big and bulky, I think they'd look a bit out of place. Same with Master Chief.

I LOVE the suggestion of a Killer Instinct character (Jago would be perfect IMO), but I'm guessing that Microsoft would probably bristle at the idea of PS3 users getting such a huge name character while 360 users get a character from a fighting game that hasn't had a sequel since what, the late 90's? Still, as fan, I'd be totally down for that idea!

Other Microsoft options?

Hmm...

Shepherd from Mass Effect? Eh...
Ryu from Ninja Gaiden/Dead or Alive? Maybe.

I've got it:

BLINX FTW!! grin
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Shinomune
12/08/2010 03:24 PM (UTC)
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OMG! OMG! OMG!

I want Marcus Phoenix (or Dom) in 360 version, and play Tag Team with Marcus/Dom & Karmine... err Kabal, vs Anya Stroud & Cole... errr Sonya Blade & Jax. And a Story Mode with the four, will be priceless...

DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! grin
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12/08/2010 03:27 PM (UTC)
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This is proof that the Mortal Kombat fan community doesn't deserve anything.




The only thing I can say to contra Kratos (aside from my disinterest in the whole God of War series mediocrity, each to his own) is that if he is integrated into the core game, that would be basically data pulled from MK.

It would be much wiser to have him as a download character, but to think that somehow Kratos' presence will invalidate everything MK so far and somehow miraculously debase the game is not only false but stupid.

If you cannot disregard one character, than the game is not at fault, you are. it doesn't mean anything, especially since Kratos is left out of the story mode altogether.

Elitism leads nowhere, but to your inevitable defeat by logical reasoning. And those who enjoy God of War then, well, here's to you.



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12/08/2010 03:38 PM (UTC)
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If he's just going to be a DLC character, what's the problem here then? I own a PS3, if I feel like wasting money, even though I don't feel like it, I'll buy Kratos if he really is a DLC character.

If not and he's just a hidden character on the select screen like how the bosses were, then bloody hell I'll try to unlock him.

The only reason I say I wish he wasn't in this game is just because I don't feel that guest characters belong in this kind of game despite that we just had MKvsDC. I liked that game, but I just don't like seeing those kinds of characters in this game.

It's not a bad decision to put Kratos in the game as he's brutal enough for Mortal Kombat, or I should say more brutal I don't know, but I don't mind his presence around.

Who knows, if everyone is worrying about tiers and such, he might be one of the strongest and I'm going to laugh if he is.
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12/08/2010 04:01 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
If he's just going to be a DLC character, what's the problem here then? I own a PS3, if I feel like wasting money, even though I don't feel like it, I'll buy Kratos if he really is a DLC character.


Heck, they can even make him a free DLC. As long as they keep non-MK characters as optional and don't force them on the people who want to have their MK universe as pure as possible.
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12/08/2010 04:01 PM (UTC)
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I'm going to repost here what I said over at Shoryuken.com.

A guest character, while unnecessary and weird for a game looking to start fresh, isn't by itself the problem. It's confusing and counterproductive but it's not detrimental to anything.

Console exclusive guest characters, though? That is a problem. It just creates unneeded strife in the community that probably will have enough arguments as is.

"We must ban Kratos because not everybody has access to him!" "But Kratos is my main!" "But a lot of us have no idea how he plays and it's not fair to us on our console!" "Tough shit! Get a PS3 and deal!" "If you host an MK tournament you MUST do it on PS3 because we need to have Kratos." "If you host an MK tournament on PS3 then Kratos MUST be banned!"

This can go on forever.

The Soul Calibur IV community spent more time arguing over Vader and Yoda then they did actually playing the game. And people will drop a game and the community around it if it becomes too much of a hassle to deal with due to lots of strife. There's going to be strife anyway. We don't need different console versions adding any extra fuel.


So, yeah. Let's assume that the 360 does not get any unique character. We have two options.

1) Every tournament uses the PS3 version and we allow Kratos. Anybody who normally plays on 360 just has to deal.

2) We ban Kratos.

This is why it's annoying. Both those options are going to be met with resistance, and for good reason. It's unfair to make people play against a character at a tournament they normally don't have access to and are unfamiliar with. They won't know how he plays and might lose to him just due to that unfamiliarity. Meanwhile, banning things is lame and should only be done under the most dire circumstances.

I can guarantee that the Soul Calibur community was seriously bogged down over Vader and Yoda that it ended up hurting the game's longevity in the process. People didn't want to deal with the bullshit and bailed.

This is why I'm hoping Kratos is just DLC. Because it'll be easier to not have to deal with the issue if he's DLC.

We need to learn from SCIV. So we don't end up in civil war over this when the game launches, we need to choose now. Let's come to a consensus. What do we do with Kratos?
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12/08/2010 04:17 PM (UTC)
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Gamers, gamers, gamers. We are now complaining about additional content in our games. Think about that for a second.
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Thibideau
12/08/2010 04:20 PM (UTC)
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Well if he has to be in the game, DLC, and ban him from tourny's. That's the best option from my point of view. It wouldn't be fair to the X-box users to include him.
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KiShiDo
12/08/2010 04:26 PM (UTC)
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Nice. Glad that I own a PS3
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Darkhound74
12/08/2010 04:28 PM (UTC)
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Alright if he is DLC then I will be happy, because my fear is that he is going to take and actual characters spot.

Even if I don't like it I'll just wait and see what exactly is going on here when NRS makes an official announcement.
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12/08/2010 04:29 PM (UTC)
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TonyTheTiger Wrote:
I'm going to repost here what I said over at Shoryuken.com.

A guest character, while unnecessary and weird for a game looking to start fresh, isn't by itself the problem. It's confusing and counterproductive but it's not detrimental to anything.

Console exclusive guest characters, though? That is a problem. It just creates unneeded strife in the community that probably will have enough arguments as is.

"We must ban Kratos because not everybody has access to him!" "But Kratos is my main!" "But a lot of us have no idea how he plays and it's not fair to us on our console!" "Tough shit! Get a PS3 and deal!" "If you host an MK tournament you MUST do it on PS3 because we need to have Kratos." "If you host an MK tournament on PS3 then Kratos MUST be banned!"

This can go on forever.

The Soul Calibur IV community spent more time arguing over Vader and Yoda then they did actually playing the game. And people will drop a game and the community around it if it becomes too much of a hassle to deal with due to lots of strife. There's going to be strife anyway. We don't need different console versions adding any extra fuel.


So, yeah. Let's assume that the 360 does not get any unique character. We have two options.

1) Every tournament uses the PS3 version and we allow Kratos. Anybody who normally plays on 360 just has to deal.

2) We ban Kratos.

This is why it's annoying. Both those options are going to be met with resistance, and for good reason. It's unfair to make people play against a character at a tournament they normally don't have access to and are unfamiliar with. They won't know how he plays and might lose to him just due to that unfamiliarity. Meanwhile, banning things is lame and should only be done under the most dire circumstances.

I can guarantee that the Soul Calibur community was seriously bogged down over Vader and Yoda that it ended up hurting the game's longevity in the process. People didn't want to deal with the bullshit and bailed.

This is why I'm hoping Kratos is just DLC. Because it'll be easier to not have to deal with the issue if he's DLC.


We need to learn from SCIV. So we don't end up in civil war over this when the game launches, we need to choose now. Let's come to a consensus. What do we do with Kratos?


I hear what you're saying. I have some question for you though. Do you have the same sort of ideals about secret/unlockable characters that you have to earn by means of earning them (characters that are only playable though)?

If I remember correctly, in past games they usually made you earn them with in game currency or going through story mode, or something of that nature. So they weren't just given to you. I know that if you take away the unlockable and secret character aspect that you partly lose a sense of mystery with the game. And if you include it, you don't have those characters readily available to play as or against.

The thing with this game though is we don't yet know how they are going to set up the secret character portion. And if you can actually play as them.

So that's what I believe it comes down to...making a character actually SELECTABLE to players. If they were to make Kratos a non-playable character, then this issue with tournaments wouldn't exist.
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12/08/2010 04:36 PM (UTC)
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Am not overly fond of Kratos being in this game.

If he isnt going to have a story etc what is the point really. Leave stuff like that for DLC that way they dont ahve to force it on people who dont want it. Also they can spend more time on the real characters if the dont bother with 'extras' who are jsut randomly going to be there.

Although at elast if he is there, they arent goign to try and somehow write him into the MK timelime. That would be a bit silly IMO.

Also, would this start a precedence for guest characters in MK? Id hope not. Guest characters is for the Soul calibur series if you ask me. What next? Mario and Yoshi taking on Scorpion?
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12/08/2010 04:46 PM (UTC)
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I can see why having Kratos as a PS3 exclusive content would be an annoyance to tournament gamers, but I don't really care about that. Why? Because I am not a tournament gamer. I am going to play MK on my PS3 and the closest thing to tournament gaming I am going to play is when I have friend over and playing or when I play online. So therefore, the fact that Kratos is an issue at tournaments does not affect me at all!
Therefore, I don't care about that aspect.

However, what I DO care about is that the upcoming Mortal Kombat was supposed to be a new take on the first three games. And I'll be damned if some guest character, Kratos or anyone else, will come in and take a spot over one of the MK characters. If he will be a downloadable bonus character who just serves as something extra and does not have an effect on the storyline, then I don't have a problem with it as such other than the fact that NRS will then spend less time on the actual MK characters and gameplay, because now they have to work on Kratos as well.

From Boon's perspective, however, I can see how this will be very cool! Ed Boon has stated that he would love to have Kratos in MK, because it is one of his favourite characters outside of the MK world. To have one of your favourite characters to appear in a game you've made is a pretty awesome factor! And I truly believe he has accepted this for himself - profit and widening the fanbase is secondary to him, though still important.

Kratos as a character could fit into the MK world easily. If we look away from the fact that he is from Ancient Greece and not the modern world where MK is supposed to take place, he is every bit as violent and cool-looking (if not more) as the other MK characters. Kratos' world is evolved around pure violence, being an almost immortal character who has gone through some fantastic trials through out his life... What I worry about though is that he might be TOO fantastic for MK.

Mortal Kombat is about life and death, survival to some, and only a very few characters in the MK universe are as powerful and immortal as Kratos WITHOUT being an actual god! Kratos is a mortal! He is human! And he goes up against the Greek Pantheon of gods and KILLS everyone one of them with the exception of a few who he chooses not to kill. The only character I can think about who can compare to Kratos in sense of power would be Shao Kahn, though his mortality can be discussed. And therefore I don't find Kratos fitting into the MK world.
But then again, Gon didn't fit in Tekken, Darth Vader didn't fit in Soul Calibur etc. That's the point of guest characters - to take a character from another world and put it into a game for the sake of pure fanboyism!

I do not support fanboyism. If I did, I wanted Jade to appear in all the fighting games I play! And I am smart enough (opposed to what some people might think) to know that it would be a bad idea and wouldn't fit in many games... though the idea of having Jade rip Ryu's head off in Street Fighter appeals to me... but that's another story. ;)

Having Kratos in Mortal Kombat is unnecessary. I can see how it would be a cool addition, but it is completely unnecessary.

A last comment... Is X-box 360 really that sucky that there aren't a single character that could fill out as a guest character in MK? I can think of several PS3 characters that would fit in MK just as well as Kratos.
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IvanMuso
12/08/2010 04:47 PM (UTC)
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I would hate it if NRS put extra characters of non MK ganes in this as palpable chars i would simple hate it sorry...mk looks so good as of now to do something like this.sad

I agree, this characters should be in the soul calibur series (which i love too) but not mk...

I guess they could add him as DLC so people who like him can buy it and people as me who don't never have to think about him ^^
but this is just what i thinkgrin
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12/08/2010 04:59 PM (UTC)
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Ehh...I'm surprised to say the least, I was expecting a pure MK game, but oh well Kratos fits in MK and it's extra content, we're gaining something in terms of character diversity and replayability. With the revelation of Kratos however, I expect that every single character from MK1-UMK3 will be playable and at the very least Quan Chi and Sareena because none of these characters should get the axe for a crossover character.
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