Woo! Sonya is back in her green jumpsuit! Thank God! The best she's ever looked! Not much else that I can add. Can't wait to see a bigger picture.

Uhm you are a nice person i'm sure.

But stop it already before you get yourself into trouble for nothing.

Really i'm a girl and I ain't offended by his comment, it was a stupid comment because its not true, but it aint such a bad comment as you think it is really.

Its the same bullcrap as people calling me racist because I don't like Sub-Zero's looks in MK2 ending...
Its his opinion, but it wasn't a anti-female thing.

Anyway, what color does Sonya's pants have? its kinda blurry for me... they should give her army colors.

@Milaana You know what your right it's not even worth the trouble it was a silly remark and it's way overdrawn thanx I agree with you. And honestly they look green to me but maybe cause my glasses aren't on lol

I have the same problem with Sonya's costume here as I do with Kitana's costume.

The over-exposed, in your face sexuality isn't my biggest beef. I mean, yeah, it's overdone and cliche as all hell at this point but it seems I'm so conditioned by it that it doesn't even seem worth mentioning.

My problem is that in an effort to make the girls wear as little as possible the designers crippled themselves as far as creativity goes. When she's wearing so little there's not a whole lot of room to really make her costume look interesting. You can't really "spice up" an outfit when there's so little of it there to begin with. The end result is a costume that is just soulless. Like "fighting game character #294."

"We can't actually make her topless so what do we do?" "How about we just throw a black vest on her?" "1, 2, 3, done! Next character!"

Crow, we can finally see the picture now. Thanks!



Hey buddy, just let it go. I agree with many of your points but all of you guys have made your arguments and the mods have warned all of you to stop. No point in continuing that fight or you guys will get banned.

Try not to make many multiple posts one after the other because its against the forum's rules. Next time, just press "edit" and add your thoughts into the last post you wrote so your posts don't seem like a "spam".



She's talented and special.

That's all there needs to be said about her ability to defy gravity or shoot energy/chi attacks or kiss you goodbye with fire balls, poisonous mists, or crushing orbs.



Lets hope they read this thread. I agree with you.



There are so many acrobatic and cool options for Sonya that I simply cannot see them giving her a boring X-Ray (I wouldn't forgive them if they did!).

Her X-Ray could feature her MK4/MKvsDC neck breaker along side a new devastating Leg Grab.

Her Neck breaker MKvsDC Fatality which was inspired by her awesome MK4 Bone-breaker was definitely a good Fatality that I can see incorporated as a throw or X-Ray attack. It's a shame they didn't do a better job with the camera direction though.

As awesome as it is in MKvsDC, had we had a visual like we do when she performs it in MK4 it would had been a hundred times better. Also, both movies neck breakers are a good combo that could look deadly if spiced up a bit.



To an extent, I almost 100% agree with that bolded part of your post.

I'm not very happy or pleased with the lack of a shirt.

She definitely looks amazing and very pretty. But. She. Needs. A. Shirt.

Now.



I second that.

Also, I know a few members who are probably not going to be too happy about this new look:

Sonya's Outfit Ideas/opinion thread

@queve You know your my most favorite person on the boards and I appreciate your concern and words of wisdom thank you!!!

I always find it kind of funny when men complain that women are underdressed. Sonya looks bland as always



I don't understand, are you trying to say you don't write for MK? I'm so confused!!!!

Shocking, Squad. Haha I think you've got it sir! :P

@krac_poe Is that going to be my new nickname so I know to get used to it? lol But hey I respect your opinion so it's cool.

Actually, the vest looks dark green to me, in that same...whatever you call it, safari or military style as Kabal's sleeveless shirt, with the pockets and utilitarian look.

And at this size, you can't really make out details, so it may be too early to say it's got no character. I mean, those straps around her lower torso look like they could be part of a gun belt or something, she seems to have a badge or SF logo on her left breast, and for all we know, her clothes may be green and black striped rather than solely green or solely black.

It would be nice if they had worked a little white in there, as reference to her MK3 and 4 looks. A white undershirt really would have both made it look less "sex appeal for no other reason than sex appeal" AND added more color and spiced it up a bit.

Also, I forget who said it first, Keith or queve, one of the usuals from the Sonya fanclub, but I definitely agree that she needs the gloves from MKvsDCU with the long armbands.

Once upon a time, there was a Tomb Raider who fell in love with a cryogenically frozen Williams sister. Alas, their love could never be fruitful because of their similar genders, but thanks to a pact with the sorcerer Quan Chi, their ova were fused into One Being who grew up to be Sonya Blade in Mortal Kombat (2011).

And here was me thinking Quan Chi was good for absolutely nothing at all.

Looks good to me, no matter how derivative and cliche. Sonya deserves nothing more.

Okay... I'm going to throw my hat into the ring. Prepare yourselves for greatness.

Sonya Blade has ALWAYS been the hardest girl for the MK team to design and in all my years of being on this site she's always been the most heavily criticized in how she's portrayed.

In MK3 and MK4, she was criticized for wearing "workout gear" rather than being more of a military woman. They said she looked more ready for an aerobics lesson than for war and battle.

In MK:DA, I remember people hated her thong, her low-cut shirt, her plastic hair and bug-eyes, and her "mannish" features. They hated the jacked with the poofy shoulders that they said made her look like a gorilla.

In MK vs DC, people talked about how bad her model was, how it was anatomically incorrect with a small head, how she had thong tan-lines, how her shirt was super-tight and you could actually see her nipples through it, how she still looked manly and how her bangs made her look like an emo boy.

In Shaolin Monks, there were again complaints about her thong being exposed, her navel being pierced, and her brown jacket being bland, while the criticisms of "manly" features still persisted.

In retrospect, ALL of these looks have garnered acceptance and even admiration and love, and I see this look being no different. When compared to her prior looks, this may be her toughest look yet.


Let me give my impressions on what I like and what I don't.

Now allow me to breakdown why the look works:
- For starters, her actual body looks fantastic. The anatomy is very good, and she has a very tight balance of femininity and strong, athletic features. Her breasts are, as usual, kind of big, but they don't look soft and doughy; her chest looks firm and chiseled. Her arms are toned, and she's sporting washboard abs. She's got thighs and calf muscles that rival those of Chun-Li, Miss Thunder Thighs herself. Her shoulders are broad and sturdy; she looks like she could ACTUALLY hurt you, badly, in a fight. As much as I loved Sonya in practically all her prior installments, she always looked just a tad "dainty", with the exception of the "gorilla" version in MK:DA. Here, she looks ripped and ready for battle.

- And yet she still looks beautiful. She's not oversized or bulging with muscles. They suit her as a woman to make her strong but not large. Her face is easily the best it has ever been, showing a ferocity her former versions lacked. She's beautiful without looking soft, but strong without looking butch. They nailed the balance.

- The ponytail. I love it. In a fight, you never want your hair flying around loosely, and that bothered me in MK:DA, but here she's tied it back. The bangs still show signs of how gorgeous she must be when she lets her hair loose, and it gives it a sort of tough, messy look, which I find hot.

- The pants. I love them. She's got a very unique black and green color scheme going, and the pants, I imagine, have more detail to them than being straight-up spandex I hope a larger render or some screenshots will reveal. They're formfitting, which is almost a nice throwback to her "aerobics" gear, yet militant enough to appeal to her character. I can already imagine her leg grab move, wrapping those powerful legs around some poor victim and cracking their skull open by tossing them headfirst into the ground.

- Boots and gloves, I have no problems with either. I liked her gloves in MK vs DC, but I see nothing wrong with them here. She looks more than ready to pound someone's face in and to fling the blood off of her knuckles or to kick their teeth in with her oversized boot.

- The vest. Arguably the most controversial change to her. "It shows too much skin", I keep hearing, and I agree to a small point, but honestly, the first time I saw it, I thought it was an immediate throwback to Commando.

Sonya's rocking a tough look leather vest, and you can't tell me that if a woman with that body walked into a bar wearing that you wouldn't think she was one tough cookie. I PREFER the lack of undershirt, because her chest and arms are so sculpted and toned that I WANT to see the muscles she's sporting unhindered. Nothing about her pose, her build, or the rest of her says "slutty' or "stripper". She's sexy, yes, she always has been, but she looks more like a strong, tough down-and-dirty chick that knows how to fix a motorcycle, doesn't mind a little mud, dirt, and grime, and likes to arm wrestle other soldiers in her down time. And I find that to be super hot, more so than any cleavage she could show.

- The details. I love the dogtags, the weapon holster, her belt... most of the little accessories she's sporting seem right in line with her character and her past.

Now for the things I'm not so fond of:
- The straps. I'm okay with the ones on her leg, because they seem to serve a purpose, to hold a knife or weapon. And maybe the ones on her arm do as well, but I don't see it. So she's got straps and belts on her arms, her legs, her chest, her stomach.... and after awhile I start to wonder if she's lost on her way to a Final Fantasy convention. It makes her design perhaps a tad too busy.

- A resemblance to Nina Williams. Sonya came first, and even did the blonde ponytail with bands look first, but Nina Williams has kept that same look for years, enough so that almost any fighting girl with the same look, regardless of whether they came first, gets compared to her. Sarah Bryant in Virtua Fighter, Jill Valentine in Resident Evil 5, and even Samus Aran have been compared to her, and there IS a resemblance, but that's a minor, minor thing.

- Could be MORE military. I'm hoping her pants have some subtle camo details or she's sporting more military details (radio, emblems) to accentuate her profession.

In the end, I find this to be a fantastic look for her. She reminds me greatly of strong heroines in cinema, such as Ripley in Aliens, Sarah Conner in Terminator, or Michelle Rodriguez (in any role she's ever played). She's beautiful without a doubt, but she looks the fiercest she's ever been. I'd compare her to a lioness, sleek and majestic yet absolutely deadly and efficient killing machine when the need arises. She could kill a man a thousand paces with that stare of hers before she would ever need to use her fists and strong legs to finish the job.

Welcome back, Sonya. It's great to see you again.

Sonya is not Arnold Schwarzenegger. Arnold didn't wear the vest to be sexual, he wore it to "look badass". The same effect isn't accomplished when you throw it on a blonde haired feminine video game character. And yeah, I can say for certain if I saw any woman walk into a bar wearing just a vest "tough cookie" would not be my first thought.

I gotta say, I'm sure happy she doesnt show thong lines... those where getting old by MKSM!

On the other hand... like i've said a bunch of times before... she looks a bit like Nina, Jill, Sarah, Sophia, etc. etc.
But as long as she's not brainswashed Im all cool

Oh Sonya.

But if she looked as angry as she did and had shoulders, arms, abs and a knife holster on her "tough cookie" and "get the fuck out of her way" would be on my mind. Also, notice her left leg. Is that the white stripe from her earlier renditions?! Or is that just light reflecting? If it's the white strip, I'll be even more in love with this outfit. The more I look at her the more I love the design. I'm not even fazed by overexposed female characters anymore. It's a male-dominated industry with a majority who like women. It is what it is.

It's possible there are a lot of small details we're not really seeing given the lousy resolution. I'll concede that.

But I still feel like there's a whole deeper level of design aesthetic girls like Sonya and Kitana are missing out on (that characters like Sub-Zero and Kung Lao do have) just because they aren't wearing enough clothing to make use of it.

We could argue that Johnny Cage and Liu Kang are always missing out on something, too, because usually they're wearing little more than tight pants. But there's a certain iconic application of their costumes, much like Ryu's white gi. Simple, but instantly recognizable.

We can't say the same for Sonya. There's nothing particularly "iconic" about any of her outfits since she's changed wildly from game to game. Even her bust size varies.

If they want to start applying a kind of Chun-Li style consistency then great. But in order to do that they need a costume people are going to actually care about. Her costume has to pop. No pun intended. And for it to do that it needs a unifying theme. But what's her theme here? Do we really want to reduce Sonya to the absolute vaguest military theme? That we can give her a small vest, maybe color it with a camouflage pattern, slap combat boots on, and call it a day? That's not particularly memorable. All it does is open the door to the next new design that will inevitably make the same mistakes. A series of skimpy outfits that only vaguely resemble some military theme but don't invoke any response other than "yup, those are her clothes this time around."

What I think the MK team needs to consider is that a girl can be sexy without being boring. In fact, the more interesting her costume is the greater potential she has for any kind of sex appeal. Look at fan favorites like Chun-Li, Samus, Zelda, etc. They don't dress particularly skimpy yet the fact that their designs are so engaging it raises their sex appeal. People don't find boring to be sexy. The MK team can make Sonya as sexy as they want. Just don't make her boring.

You kow....



I am not sure.

While you're sitting there stewing over not being able to do anything here, ask yourself this: was he really too scared to deal with the source of the problem? Was he?

Don't you ever question MY balls. Peace out.

Now now people, don't be so hard on the nrs team for oversexualizing the females, maybe its serving a tactical point, it may be easier to fight in less clothes lol. Seriously i think a shirt would have been nice, but im not going to complain that its gone, at least its somewhat in character. I just hope she will be fun, ill leave the judging on her looks to the big sonya fans

I think she "looks badass" with a leather vest. I don't see why the effect is diminished just because she has breasts. She's got guns of her own and muscles to kill.

Beyond that, you're not looking at the entire picture. No, one vest does not a badass make. But that's like saying the badass woman below isn't a strong, tough woman just because she's wearing the same black bikini as someone else.



How a character acts, carries herself, talks, and fights ultimately determines more about her "strength" than a vest.

Because if Arnold was trying to look "badass", there are more than a few male strippers that have that same tight leather vest motif. It's all about the bigger picture, and Sonya's big picture is, I believe, pitch-perfect for her.

O shit I cant believe I missed out on this, hella yeah! Sonya looks pretty damn sick I dont understand where all the hate is coming from because she looks too "slutty" I think she looks fine but maybe a shirt to cover her chest would be better.
So its not that bad, I really like the head/hair/face, I'm gonna say its the best in the series so far. And I like the whole vest idea but seriously, there has to be something under the vest.
And I don't believe this is the actual in-game render, It will probably look better when we see her in the game.
But I prefer this over the MKvsDC, just cover her chest up a little and it will be perfect I also agree with some users saying there should be more detail added to her pants, maybe a belt.
But this could change, its probably not final.

Needs a shirt... Yea, her bottom half, muscle tone, femininity, facial design, color choices, and ponytail are all good to go.

She needs to have a change of the type of gloves she's wearing, and at least a shirt for the primary. I'd play with another shirt and jacket combination like in MKDA and MKSM though. That's it....

Done.

Sometimes I have to wonder if the MKO community is just afraid of boobs. Of course there is a really simple solution to Sonya's new look. Zip the vest up so only the top most part of her breasts show. Or really, just throw a sports bra on her for underneath the vest. My problem with Sonya is that she's always been a boring character design wise. I didn't mind that Sonya sported a thong. It certainly broke her out of this illusion of being the character equivalent of grey paste. Sonya's look is fine when taken as a whole, even if it is predictable and a bit boring. But there's nothing really offensive about it. She's not running around in a bikini top and her pants don't look like they are about to burst down the seams. She also doesn't have ass slits on the back that form into chaps to frame her cheeks (that we know off).

Implying most of the women in these games should be dressed as anything more than sluts at most of you people have said they look like.