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02/01/2019 01:33 PM (UTC)
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Not Kano again I really thought he would be out this game, yes he is an original but he is so boring and has no story relevance anymore.

You can apply this to about 80% of the cast.

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02/01/2019 03:02 PM (UTC)
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My first thought and most lasting impression when I heard of the reveal was, "Aw, goddammit... the Khronic Komplainers are going to have a grand old time with this one."

As much as I'm curious what role he's going to play, what side he chooses, how his gameplay and fighting style has developed and so on... it's hard to escape the sense that the backlash against the series' original main characters (the ones who gave players their first impression of "Who is Mortal Kombat?") seems to overshadow the characters themselves.

Luckily it's only certain segments of the audience, and Kano has enough fans to make him feel at least somewhat welcome in a world that he helped set the tone for way back in the beginning.

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02/01/2019 04:15 PM (UTC)
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Good! I can say that I'm proud of being a Kano fan since Deadly Alliance (didn't care for him in the original trilogy due to the lame fatalities) and it's so good seeing him back, he's pretty much a staple at this point. Looks like his younger self is gonna be his default skin

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02/01/2019 04:35 PM (UTC)
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Good! I can say that I'm proud of being a Kano fan since Deadly Alliance (didn't care for him in the original trilogy due to the lame fatalities) and it's so good seeing him back, he's pretty much a staple at this point. Looks like his younger self is gonna be his default skin

Wait.. You liked his fatality in mkda, but didn't like classic heart rip, or skeleton pull from mk3?! Kano da shit. Roster could be the same as mk2, and I'd still buy this game. MK for life. You don't like it, go play something else (That's what i say to the complainers.)

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02/01/2019 04:40 PM (UTC)Edited 02/01/2019 07:14 PM (UTC)
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My first thought and most lasting impression when I heard of the reveal was, "Aw, goddammit... the Khronic Komplainers are going to have a grand old time with this one."

As much as I'm curious what role he's going to play, what side he chooses, how his gameplay and fighting style has developed and so on... it's hard to escape the sense that the backlash against the series' original main characters (the ones who gave players their first impression of "Who is Mortal Kombat?") seems to overshadow the characters themselves.

Luckily it's only certain segments of the audience, and Kano has enough fans to make him feel at least somewhat welcome in a world that he helped set the tone for way back in the beginning.

I personally do not believe that because Kano is an original character from MK1 that he should get some kind of preferential treatment or put on a pedastal. A character should be judged on their merits.

Secondly the number of people that played and got into MK at MK1 is shrinking with each game in the series. It is becoming less relavent to be an original character. The franchise is attracting newer players and audience. My brother is in his 20's and his first game was Deadly Alliance and his response when I told him Kano was revealed was "Meh" similar to the second post in this thread. Kano has appeared in so many game that he has become trite. I told him Kabal was getting teased and he got excited since he has only seen Kabal three times and the last time was eight years ago.

I was in the Koko theatre and the characters that got the best reaction and got fans the most hype were Skarlet and Baraka. Both of them missed MKX. Sub-Zero got a little cheer and Sonya practically none. The Geras reveal trailer has got double the views of Sonya reveal trailer which is telling. People get excited by seeing something new and seeing the same characters keep returning is making a lot of fans weary of them.

Kano does not have the fanbase Scorpion has so can not be carried by that. I do not think most fans hate Kano but I definately think most are getting sick of seeing him to the point where fans are becoming apathetic towards him, something which can be said of other classic characters as well. A break would do him good and I am sure he would get a better reaction if he missed the next game and returned in the after that one.

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Arie_Visker
02/01/2019 04:48 PM (UTC)
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Kano looks like the Australian actor Trevor Goddart (that's the Actor ho played Kano in the first MK movie.)

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thisiscourage
02/01/2019 06:18 PM (UTC)
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My first thought and most lasting impression when I heard of the reveal was, "Aw, goddammit... the Khronic Komplainers are going to have a grand old time with this one."

As much as I'm curious what role he's going to play, what side he chooses, how his gameplay and fighting style has developed and so on... it's hard to escape the sense that the backlash against the series' original main characters (the ones who gave players their first impression of "Who is Mortal Kombat?") seems to overshadow the characters themselves.

Luckily it's only certain segments of the audience, and Kano has enough fans to make him feel at least somewhat welcome in a world that he helped set the tone for way back in the beginning.

I think NRS is smart enough (hopefully) to view any backlash against main stay characters as short minded peoples whining for a roster spot that is not a 3D era.

People who are content with things do not speak up... so hopefully they do not view the backlash as a consensus of the populations opinion and just a few butt hurt people.

The sooner people realize that 3D era characters are not coming back, & that NRS has chosen to move forward with the mk9 characters and new mkx characters, the better.

Kano is a cool character & solid anti hero.

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02/01/2019 06:27 PM (UTC)
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My first thought and most lasting impression when I heard of the reveal was, "Aw, goddammit... the Khronic Komplainers are going to have a grand old time with this one."

As much as I'm curious what role he's going to play, what side he chooses, how his gameplay and fighting style has developed and so on... it's hard to escape the sense that the backlash against the series' original main characters (the ones who gave players their first impression of "Who is Mortal Kombat?") seems to overshadow the characters themselves.

Luckily it's only certain segments of the audience, and Kano has enough fans to make him feel at least somewhat welcome in a world that he helped set the tone for way back in the beginning.

I think NRS is smart enough (hopefully) to view any backlash against main stay characters as short minded peoples whining for a roster spot that is not a 3D era.

People who are content with things do not speak up... so hopefully they do not view the backlash as a consensus of the populations opinion and just a few butt hurt people.

The sooner people realize that 3D era characters are not coming back, & that NRS has chosen to move forward with the mk9 characters and new mkx characters, the better.

Kano is a cool character & solid anti hero.

Thank you, I totally agree.

Kano> 99% of the 3D characters.

He is very interesting, a normal human who is surviving disasters game by game.

He is just a staple.

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02/01/2019 07:09 PM (UTC)
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My first thought and most lasting impression when I heard of the reveal was, "Aw, goddammit... the Khronic Komplainers are going to have a grand old time with this one."

As much as I'm curious what role he's going to play, what side he chooses, how his gameplay and fighting style has developed and so on... it's hard to escape the sense that the backlash against the series' original main characters (the ones who gave players their first impression of "Who is Mortal Kombat?") seems to overshadow the characters themselves.

Luckily it's only certain segments of the audience, and Kano has enough fans to make him feel at least somewhat welcome in a world that he helped set the tone for way back in the beginning.

I think NRS is smart enough (hopefully) to view any backlash against main stay characters as short minded peoples whining for a roster spot that is not a 3D era.

People who are content with things do not speak up... so hopefully they do not view the backlash as a consensus of the populations opinion and just a few butt hurt people.

The sooner people realize that 3D era characters are not coming back, & that NRS has chosen to move forward with the mk9 characters and new mkx characters, the better.

Kano is a cool character & solid anti hero.

omg can i be your friend, you are absolutely right and i don't get why people don't understand this and why they bitch/complain so much

like there a reason why a lot of the originals are in the games lately nrs is clearly trying to erase the 3d-era people (minus a few) can you repeat this on every platform for those who are so angry

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02/01/2019 08:10 PM (UTC)
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Kano and Sonya = ZZZZZzzzzz same storyline since the original

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ErmaSco
02/01/2019 09:09 PM (UTC)
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Kano and Sonya = ZZZZZzzzzz same storyline since the original

Tons better than Fujin, a Raiden's replacement reject.

Sometimes I wonder if the fans have always been this grumpy during MKDA/MKD days ? Cause I don't remember people loving Fujin or Reiko back in the day but I only joined here in 2008.

I loved the 3D era, but they can't ND will never compare to the MK9-11 or the trilogy eras.

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02/01/2019 09:10 PM (UTC)
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My first thought and most lasting impression when I heard of the reveal was, "Aw, goddammit... the Khronic Komplainers are going to have a grand old time with this one."

As much as I'm curious what role he's going to play, what side he chooses, how his gameplay and fighting style has developed and so on... it's hard to escape the sense that the backlash against the series' original main characters (the ones who gave players their first impression of "Who is Mortal Kombat?") seems to overshadow the characters themselves.

Luckily it's only certain segments of the audience, and Kano has enough fans to make him feel at least somewhat welcome in a world that he helped set the tone for way back in the beginning.

I think NRS is smart enough (hopefully) to view any backlash against main stay characters as short minded peoples whining for a roster spot that is not a 3D era.

People who are content with things do not speak up... so hopefully they do not view the backlash as a consensus of the populations opinion and just a few butt hurt people.

The sooner people realize that 3D era characters are not coming back, & that NRS has chosen to move forward with the mk9 characters and new mkx characters, the better.

Kano is a cool character & solid anti hero.

Why is it so bad for someone to want 3D era characters to return? Like, why can't I have the best of both worlds here?

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02/01/2019 10:50 PM (UTC)
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I agree for base characters to return in a game that make it unique, and to have its own nostalgic feeling. But each new game, new movies, books, new story, needs to have something new in it. I dont mind having old characters in this roster as long as something new is given. If there is no somethinf new they come up with, it just spoils it all and makes it boring AF.

But we are different... Can't think the same.

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02/01/2019 10:55 PM (UTC)
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My first thought and most lasting impression when I heard of the reveal was, "Aw, goddammit... the Khronic Komplainers are going to have a grand old time with this one."

As much as I'm curious what role he's going to play, what side he chooses, how his gameplay and fighting style has developed and so on... it's hard to escape the sense that the backlash against the series' original main characters (the ones who gave players their first impression of "Who is Mortal Kombat?") seems to overshadow the characters themselves.

Luckily it's only certain segments of the audience, and Kano has enough fans to make him feel at least somewhat welcome in a world that he helped set the tone for way back in the beginning.

I think NRS is smart enough (hopefully) to view any backlash against main stay characters as short minded peoples whining for a roster spot that is not a 3D era.

People who are content with things do not speak up... so hopefully they do not view the backlash as a consensus of the populations opinion and just a few butt hurt people.

The sooner people realize that 3D era characters are not coming back, & that NRS has chosen to move forward with the mk9 characters and new mkx characters, the better.

Kano is a cool character & solid anti hero.

Why is it so bad for someone to want 3D era characters to return? Like, why can't I have the best of both worlds here?

Nothing wrong with it friend..

im speaking against people who are complaining about original cast characters. I got nothing against 3d era. But my point is that they aren’t coming back

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phishstix17
02/01/2019 11:11 PM (UTC)
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Not Kano again I really thought he would be out this game, yes he is an original but he is so boring and has no story relevance anymore.

Yeah, because Sub-Zero brewing tea was the highlight of MKX x D

Kano has always been one of my favorites, and I'm always happy to see him. He looks great!

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02/01/2019 11:54 PM (UTC)
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Secondly the number of people that played and got into MK at MK1 is shrinking with each game in the series. It is becoming less relavent to be an original character.

I don't agree with that part. If any, since MK9 original players of MK have returned. The 3D MK's attracted a different crowd and although with some interesting mechanics and additional modes, were becoming the downfall of MK.
Some would probably refer to the sale-numbers to adress the popularity of the 3D MK vs the original Trilogy, but that can't be compared because during the original Trilogy gaming was more of a niche (nerdy thing to do) and during the 3D era gaming became a normal/popular thing to do.
MK9 and MKX having breath new life into the franchise is proof that people are all in for the original stories and characters.

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02/02/2019 12:13 AM (UTC)Edited 02/02/2019 12:14 AM (UTC)
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Fanboys to the rescue! As if their opinion trumps anyone else's.

Opinions are just that, opinions. Try not to get butt hurt over someone dissing your favorite characters.

And why do people keep calling alternate costumes SKINS? They're not SKINS when the 3D model is completely different. Geez...

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Spider804
02/02/2019 12:43 AM (UTC)
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So much fighting. Will this Verbal Kombat never end?

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02/02/2019 12:49 AM (UTC)
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And why do people keep calling alternate costumes SKINS?

Because no one cares about something this trivial.

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02/02/2019 02:19 AM (UTC)
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Honestly in the 3D era games there were only a handful of good characters with potential, the rest were terrible.

For all the great characters like Kenshi, Havik, Reiko, Fujin and Nitara we also had characters like Kobra, Darius, Hsu Hao, Jarek and Dariou.

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MacyG88
02/02/2019 03:37 AM (UTC)
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Verbal Kombat

This needs to be the new mini game for MK 11.

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02/02/2019 03:43 AM (UTC)
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Yeah, because Sub-Zero brewing tea was the highlight of MKX x D

Brewing tea really??? You took one of the most significant and longest coming moments in MK history (the truce between Sub and Scorpion) and boiled it down to Sub Zero brewing tea!

Although not overly significant to the story it was a moment that long time MK fans like myself have been waiting to see for years and much better and interesting than Kano cross-dressing and then getting beat up by Sonya.......again!

In my opinion Kano should have sat this game out he and Sonya both missed MK2 and it was one of the best in the series, the franchise can survive and flourish without all 7 original cast members in every single gane, this has been proven before.

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02/02/2019 07:55 AM (UTC)
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My first thought and most lasting impression when I heard of the reveal was, "Aw, goddammit... the Khronic Komplainers are going to have a grand old time with this one."

As much as I'm curious what role he's going to play, what side he chooses, how his gameplay and fighting style has developed and so on... it's hard to escape the sense that the backlash against the series' original main characters (the ones who gave players their first impression of "Who is Mortal Kombat?") seems to overshadow the characters themselves.

Luckily it's only certain segments of the audience, and Kano has enough fans to make him feel at least somewhat welcome in a world that he helped set the tone for way back in the beginning.

I personally do not believe that because Kano is an original character from MK1 that he should get some kind of preferential treatment or put on a pedastal. A character should be judged on their merits.

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A break would do him good and I am sure he would get a better reaction if he missed the next game and returned in the after that one.

It's not about putting anybody on a pedestal. It's about recognizing that he's a long lived and influential character with a good number of fans, so even though he doesn't excite you personally, having him back is not necessarily a problem. Certainly not a problem worth people getting angry about.

As for me, I'm not all that excited for Kano either. But that has more to do with him not being one of my top favorite characters. Now, I was excited to see Kabal back, because he is one of my all time favorites and I would be happy to see him back for every single game. I don't think his missing a game really moved my needle.

On that note, supposing he did skip a game and come back for the next one. Are you... sure he would get a better reaction the next time around? Because I've already seen complaints about Kabal and Baraka coming back just because they're from the Trilogy era.

Now, if we're judging characters by their merits then I have to ask: What exactly did characters like Fujin and Reiko do to "merit" the amount of fan swoon they seem to get? Maybe if Fujin actually did become Earth's protector for Deadly Alliance we'd be getting somewhere. Maybe if Reiko had any kind of story or personality besides "mystery guy does mystery things because we can't let the time we spent on this unused Johnny Cage model go to waste." Meanwhile, Kano went from thug on the run to traitorous Outworld arms dealer to a General in Shao Kahn's army, then profiteered off both sides of a civil war in the new timeline, making a notable impact in each individual appearance. If we're talking about merits, then he's earned his place in every game he's been in.

I'm not saying the other guys shouldn't make a comeback. They have potential. My point is that I don't think anyone "shouldn't" make a comeback, originals included.

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02/02/2019 11:38 AM (UTC)
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It's not about putting anybody on a pedestal. It's about recognizing that he's a long lived and influential character with a good number of fans, so even though he doesn't excite you personally, having him back is not necessarily a problem. Certainly not a problem worth people getting angry about.

As for me, I'm not all that excited for Kano either. But that has more to do with him not being one of my top favorite characters. Now, I was excited to see Kabal back, because he is one of my all time favorites and I would be happy to see him back for every single game. I don't think his missing a game really moved my needle.

On that note, supposing he did skip a game and come back for the next one. Are you... sure he would get a better reaction the next time around? Because I've already seen complaints about Kabal and Baraka coming back just because they're from the Trilogy era.

Now, if we're judging characters by their merits then I have to ask: What exactly did characters like Fujin and Reiko do to "merit" the amount of fan swoon they seem to get? Maybe if Fujin actually did become Earth's protector for Deadly Alliance we'd be getting somewhere. Maybe if Reiko had any kind of story or personality besides "mystery guy does mystery things because we can't let the time we spent on this unused Johnny Cage model go to waste." Meanwhile, Kano went from thug on the run to traitorous Outworld arms dealer to a General in Shao Kahn's army, then profiteered off both sides of a civil war in the new timeline, making a notable impact in each individual appearance. If we're talking about merits, then he's earned his place in every game he's been in.

I'm not saying the other guys shouldn't make a comeback. They have potential. My point is that I don't think anyone "shouldn't" make a comeback, originals included.

That he is a long lived character means little. I do not think he is influential at all. The biggest development Kano ever got was becoming Australian. He has done nothing story wise and is never crucial to the plot of the series. He has got fans but not that many. He was the least played base character in MKX. Even much maligned characters series newcomers like Ferra/Torr and Jacqui were played more than Kano. That is telling.

I am 100% sure that he would get a better reaction if he missed a game and returned in the next one. Looking at the reaction for Baraka and Skarlet proves exactly that point. People get apathetic seeing the same thing over and over again especially when they have characters they want returning. People have not played Fujin in a long time. The longer they wait the more they want to revisit him. People want to play Fujin for their own reasons, I can not speak for everyone. Personally I do not care about Fujin but I do recognise that a lot of people want to play him for their own reasons.

I agree no character should not comback but that does not mean everyone is going to be happy to see them when they are makng a comeback. It does not work that way and fatigue is an issue.

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02/02/2019 02:45 PM (UTC)
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It's not about putting anybody on a pedestal. It's about recognizing that he's a long lived and influential character with a good number of fans, so even though he doesn't excite you personally, having him back is not necessarily a problem. Certainly not a problem worth people getting angry about.

As for me, I'm not all that excited for Kano either. But that has more to do with him not being one of my top favorite characters. Now, I was excited to see Kabal back, because he is one of my all time favorites and I would be happy to see him back for every single game. I don't think his missing a game really moved my needle.

On that note, supposing he did skip a game and come back for the next one. Are you... sure he would get a better reaction the next time around? Because I've already seen complaints about Kabal and Baraka coming back just because they're from the Trilogy era.

Now, if we're judging characters by their merits then I have to ask: What exactly did characters like Fujin and Reiko do to "merit" the amount of fan swoon they seem to get? Maybe if Fujin actually did become Earth's protector for Deadly Alliance we'd be getting somewhere. Maybe if Reiko had any kind of story or personality besides "mystery guy does mystery things because we can't let the time we spent on this unused Johnny Cage model go to waste." Meanwhile, Kano went from thug on the run to traitorous Outworld arms dealer to a General in Shao Kahn's army, then profiteered off both sides of a civil war in the new timeline, making a notable impact in each individual appearance. If we're talking about merits, then he's earned his place in every game he's been in.

I'm not saying the other guys shouldn't make a comeback. They have potential. My point is that I don't think anyone "shouldn't" make a comeback, originals included.

That he is a long lived character means little. I do not think he is influential at all. The biggest development Kano ever got was becoming Australian. He has done nothing story wise and is never crucial to the plot of the series. He has got fans but not that many. He was the least played base character in MKX. Even much maligned characters series newcomers like Ferra/Torr and Jacqui were played more than Kano. That is telling.

I am 100% sure that he would get a better reaction if he missed a game and returned in the next one. Looking at the reaction for Baraka and Skarlet proves exactly that point. People get apathetic seeing the same thing over and over again especially when they have characters they want returning. People have not played Fujin in a long time. The longer they wait the more they want to revisit him. People want to play Fujin for their own reasons, I can not speak for everyone. Personally I do not care about Fujin but I do recognise that a lot of people want to play him for their own reasons.

I agree no character should not comback but that does not mean everyone is going to be happy to see them when they are makng a comeback. It does not work that way and fatigue is an issue.

That's fine and all, but you're acting as if all those years of whiny, loud people on the internet asking for Tremor, Tanya, Shinnok, Quan Chi, etc had any impact the time it came to play those characters. You're bringing the "character usage" thing, and nobody played those characters. Do you really think Fujin, Reiko, etc would be any more popular?

Besides, Erron Black and Reptile were the least used base characters, not Kano.

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