A game like MK, does not take 100 million to make. GTAIV not only takes longer to develope, it also takes a lot more people to make it, as you can see that it has a lot more content. A fighting games is relatively simple in comparison.

You have to make models for all the characters, the stages, and cut scenes etc. but compared to multiple cities, cars, buildings, landscapes, and people in GTA etc. it's not nearly as costly.

If I had to take a guess, I would say a game like MK, which comes out every 2 years, takes around 20-40 million to make. Thus a 120 million dollar revenue would be great.

None of this really matters however, because as Crow said, the problem with midway wasn't Mortal Kombat, it's that Mortal Kombat was their only true profitable franchise. So of course, in time, it was innevitable that they would go under if they didn't switch up the way they worked.

Are you freakin serious?

He could just be trying to make a mainstream movie and in his vision, having Tarkatans and Zatarans and what not might not mesh with what he's trying to do. That doesn't mean he's not a fan of the series. The two have NOTHING to do with one another.

I love MK and I have for almost 20 years now. That doesn't change the fact that I thought the whole Orderrealm and Chaosrealm thing in MKD was ridiculous and stupid and if I were a movie director, I wouldn't touch that hot garbage with a ten foot pole. Am I also "not really a fan" in your eyes?

Don't question someone's love of the series just because they have a vision of it's best features that's differs from yours.

Or maybe he just didn't want to do their accurate origin stories because of time and budget constraints? The guy made this on a shoe string budget of $7,500. I'm not saying that's likely, but you honestly never know. He stated in an interview that he WANTED the mystical elements and the mythos of the series in the movie.

Oh and the line about not wanting a gore fest? You do realize that MK is one of the most violent games in the history of gaming, right? Spine rip? Incineration? Heart rip? Any of these things ringing any bells? So yeah, if he wants to make an MK movie that has MK style fatalities in, are you saying that THAT doesn't mesh with your vision of an MK movie?

Sorry, I know that everyone has their own vision for what would make a good movie, but to say that this guy's not some card carrying fan just because his vision doesn't coincide with yours is a bit absurd. I could just as easily say that you're not a real MK fan because you don't want gore in the movies.

I don't think that way, by the way. But I'm just saying. I like where the guy's pitch went, and I still chalk up some of the origin changes to budget and time contraints more than a desire to change the cannon, but that's just a guess on my part. Even if he did choose to change the origins of a few characters, I'd be fine with it.

It's still "Mortal Kombat" if it has the names, looks and personalities of the characters fighting in a tournament for the fate of the world. To me, that's Mortal Kombat. If the director wants to take a few liberties, well, it wouldn't be the first time.

Last I checked, the first MK movie changed a lot as well. Like how Sub Zero and Scorpion were "slaves" under Shang Tsung's power? Or how Reptile was a little lizard that could inhabit statues and turn them in to real people? I don't recall that being in the games either. But people here keep looking to the first MK movie as the right way to do things.

So yeah, I don't think that this guy has to do all of his interviews dressed as Sub Zero for me to believe that he enjoyed the game in his youth. I'm pretty sure that spending SEVEN THOUSAND of his OWN money and calling in every favor he could to get people to do this says that just fine.

Seconded.

Thirded.... I guess! Lol. You are definately right though.

Thanks for the reply, I don't think I disagree with anything you've said.. Here goes:



My main point here was if he really liked the setting/characters he wouldn't see a need to change characters completely.



I'm not questioning anyone on this forum with that post but I see your point. A good few pages back someone mentioned how in their eyes Deadly Alliance was a good way of revitalising the franchise without changing the characters/setting. All i'm saying is that i'd personally prefer if a new MK film was based on the MK setting



Fair enough. I just have my doubts this isn't another director saying what he thinks will land him the job.



He might get it to fit with what he has in place but whether that'll be MK or not.. I have my doubts.



Yes I believe there should be violence in an MK film (obviously) the point I was trying to make was that there's potential with the setting already in place to do a good story AND have the fight/death scenes.

Let me put it this way American History X was a good drama with strong violence in it, Jason X was a tongue-in-cheek film with violence in it.



Agreed. However please keep in my mind my American History X/Jason X reference.



I've no problem with taking certain liberties with characters but i'd want to see many characters getting completely changed, i'd rather have a different approach.



All i'll is that I wouldn't see it as MK if half the characters are completely different with the same names.



Little liberties can be overlooked. I look to Conquest as the best MK media done thus far.



I just have my doubts. Once again thanks for your reply and I hope you can see some of the differences in opinion that i'm on about.

At this point, I don't give a flying fuck about the Canon anymore thanks to Armageddon. I want NEWNESS injected into this franchise and thats exactly what this video has done

You know....I agree with some of your post here. However, it's not so much about the absence of "magic" in this pitch as it is honoring the characters the way that we have always had them presented to us. Now, to make what we are familiar with, "dark and gritty" or "grounded in reality," doesn't necessarily tell the producers to "change everything about the characters that we're familiar with, because the ultimate goal is to accomplishes that darker, dirtier, and realistic look". Or at least it doesn't have to, in order to get the same result. Here's where we kind of agree....

I think that Vincent - Proce art strikes a happy medium. It's familiar, and it's an interpretation that I could see making it's way into a live action film that wants to ground itself in reality all day long. As far as the magic that is there in the games, and should definitely be in the movie, I feel like we've had movies that have done this to some degree or capacity before. Very tastefully in fact, and without bastardizing the character descriptions or anything. It's very character specific, but let's see here:

Jax = The Incredible Hulk // IronMan // We were Soldiers // Saving Private Ryan // 300 // Gladiator // Predator

Sonya = G.I. Jane // Million Dollar Baby // Terminator 1&2 // Kill Bill

Baraka = I am Legend // 30 Days of Night // Blade - 2 - (Reaper .....)

Reptile = MK Conquest // Lord of the Rings // Mortal Kombat

Johnny Cage = Fantastic 4 // Mortal Kombat

Scorpion = Ninja Assassin (the story in this movie is actually alot like Sub-Zero's though) // Jet Li's Unleashed // Various other rough n tumble ninja types

We also have T.V. shows like Smallville or Heroes.

Now obviously, I'm not saying a new Mortal Kombat film should be treated the same as Smallville or Heros....or any one of those movies. BUT, what I am saying is that the next movie should be treated in such a way, that it allows the fantasy element to have it's presence throughout the film, the characters need to remain in-tact per what and who we know them to be, and then to allow the violence to have its presence as well.

It's hard to peg what it would look like (because there's literally nothin like it out there except for the 1st movie), but there's alot of mixtures that could conclude on the same thing. A comic book film like IronMan or The Incredible Hulk + SAW or Hostel + Ong Bak or Jet Li's Unleashed?

Getting pretty close if that's the end result....



I can dig it. It's one thing to humanize, and really ground these characters in reality. But you do want to stay away from making something like MK really campy // goofy looking // too much like the game. Like MK2 with all the vibrant colors, and goofy costumes, let's....not exactly go there with the film. Y'know?

I think the humans should actually be seen in plain clothes most of the time. But like with Jax//Sonya//Cage and the like, when it's time to fight, their "costumes" in the movie should be practical based on what the games tell us what kinds of character they are. So for Sonya & Jax, they'd probably "suit up" in Special Forces-like attire. Cage would probably get his shirt ripped off eventually.

Monsters and such don't necessarily have to have a definitive "costume", because they should ideally be identifiable right away anyway. However, what they do wear, should associate them with whatever they're associated with in the game. Like, Sub-Zero might not be in a ninja suit the whole movie (he's not a ninja anyway, remember?...he's an assassin), but he'd probably have a Lin Kuei tattoo, or embroilment somewhere on his clothes.

And again, when it came time for him to "suit up", he'd probably put on something more familiar to what the game tells us he should. The vest.... the cryo mask....something that identifies the game character, but that isn't so campy that it's lame. Same for Scorpion since they're enemies.

Yeah, i think you get where I was trying to come from. I agree Annihalation was not the right way to go.

The point I was trying to make but probably didn't convey properly was that without changing the characters/setting but the approach to how they're portrayed could make all the difference.

Why is this still in the Future MK Games section???

This should be moved to MK Movies and Media.

Because often news posts will be in multiple forums.

I'm going to have to agree with the Armageddon Complaint. the MK story line has more holes in it than the bible and Armageddon pretty much forced them into a brick wall. Not a bad thing, time for a reboot

Watched the clip several times already and this is my (hopefully final) assessment of it since I feel like uncool for being such a killjoy about it. I think the director who unbelievably made this on a shoestring budget is very talented. You could see that in the video. He doesn't have the same boring shots you would expect from a crappy film maker like Michael Bay or the guy who directed the Resident Evil movies. Every shot conveys raw emotion and he does a great job of expressing the actors' actions through their facial gestures and body movements. You never get this deep with an action movie. The fights choreography is also remarkable for its realism. Something like this could have happened in a bar between toughies slugging it out and the camera captures the violence perfectly. It's all excellent, I just never got it the first time, perhaps I just didn't have an open mind then.

The question here though is why does Tancharoen need the MK label for his movie. He just created originial characters here for God's sake. Sure they're named Jax, Sonya, Reptile, Johnny Cage, Baraka, Scorpion but they seem like different personalities altogether. Tancharoen could very well produce his own fatality based video game from this film. He doesn't need MK to make this movie win action fans or even casual viewers alike. Hell, with his talent, he doesn't even need Warner Bros. money to finance this thing. With further funding from some not so high profile sources, he could very well make an underground martial arts classic. Looking forward to how he'll pull off the "magic and fantasy" in a minimalist approach though.

As I've said before, fuck the canon. Netherrealm Studios quit caring about it a long time ago and so have I. Baraka DOES NOT need to be a mutant to still be Baraka. The Joker in the Dark Knight did not fall into a vat of chemcals and does not have perma white skin, but he's still fundementally the Joker. as long as their personalities remain in tact, thats all that matters folks.

dont call this MK.

Call this movie "Deacon city street fights 101"

Cuz thats what this is.

That's exactly what I said, I'm totally with the fuck the canon crowd. its still MK as far as I am concerned.

I hate when people mix up the terms "realistic" and "plausible".

An MK movie should be realistic. But, does MK really need to be plausible?

Don't blame the story for the first two film's failures; it wasn't the story, it was the execution. It was the writer, producer and director working in unison to make sure they made the worse product imaginable. Yeah, the last MK games weren't the best. But if they wanted to make a great Mortal Kombat movie, they should take the storylines and characters from the first two games, and use it as framework to make the best (and most horrifying) product possible. Work on humanizing the other characters, plunge them into a dark and evil world, and record their reactions of shock and fear as they try to fight their way to survival.

I was hanging out with a friend of mine last night. He's the average casual MK fan; he's played the 2D games, but he's never really played the newer ones. He didn't see Rebirth. Being unbiased, I described the trailer to him. The first words out of his mouth were, "That's total bullsh!t."

And continued with, "How are they gonna change Baraka into that?"

He went on to tell me that what he thought made MK special was that it wasn't so much "crazy" as it was just brutally violent. Where normal, level-headed fighters were plunged into this world where morality, guilt and emotions don't exist at all, and while the inhabitants seem crazy to us, to them they're normal. So, in a mix of fear and pure adrenaline, these fighters start getting ultra violent; ripping eachother in half, punching limbs off, etc; to match the intensity of these others to (hopefully) survive, while slowly descending into madness (events like that can really weaken your mental foundations, no matter how zen you are). And he thought the trailer completely destroyed what could have been a great and horrific concept.

After, all I could say was, "That's what I've been saying!"

We both agreed that it wouldn't AT ALL be hard to make a brutal movie following the underlying elements of MK, with, of course, the elements that make it MK in the first place. And anyone who says it'd be difficult, or it'd be campy like the first film if it followed the games obviously either doesn't know MK, or just doesn't have an active imagination.

Producers and directors gotta stop acting like it's so hard to adapt a video game to screen, especially one like Mortal Kombat. Being a filmmaker myself, I want to make an MK film that takes place after the first game, where everyone is dead except for Kang and Tsung. To get a better realistic (not plausible) view of Kang's psyche, and what could have really happened between the two games.

Got bored so... StoryBoard A little visual aid for what to base a movie (or movie trilogy) off of. Feedback appreciated.

To explain this image a little bit, what's happening here is you're choosing one or two prominent character threads to follow through 1 or more movies.

I picked Scorpion to start because "everybody wants to see the ninjas", right? Therefor, the best one to go with is the poster boy. Second reason I chose Scorpion to start out with, is because it (obviously) involves the other poster-boy of the franchise, Sub-Zero.

Now, just looking at the thing you can tell that it's missing some characters that are a part of the Scorpion//Sub-Zero subplot. Reason for that, is because you HAVE to simplify things, and everybody just can't fit in without making the thing congested. So, I sacrificed Sektor, Smoke, and others on purpose.

Not sure if a movie could effectively "inference" them without giving them an actual role, but that's the sort of way I went with it for missing characters from Scorpions plot. I felt like, we should know that they're there, but they don't really need to be seen if this was for an actual movie.

The Scorpion//Sub-Zero vendetta spans MK: Sub-Zero Mythologies - MK4

- Second part, is about Shao Kahn's successful invasion and conquering of EarthRealm circa MK3T. I'll leave this part open for questioning. But I did try to be careful here as well.

I gotta say this movie or short or whatever it is looks like a big pile of steaming shit. Theres no way in hell I'd ever pay to go see this at a movie theater. I don't know why you can have decent intro clips on games like deception and armageddon but every time someone tries to make a movie based on a game it turns out like the street fighter movies , total garbage.

At this point I'd almost rather see them make an M or R rated animated movie like Dead Space or maybe even go the cgi route like in the games.

Anyway, thats just my opinion but I'm sure somebody can do better than this.

I think the film clip is the total opposite of a steaming pile of shit since it was created on such a limited budget, the fight scene to me trumps ANYTHING that any MK movie has ever done...ever.


Either way, the clip keeps racking up views on youtube, it's pretty impressive, I'm sure WB released it for this reason, to see how much interest it would draw.

this is very interesting.



for the argument in this thread, You guys shame me as MK fans greatly.

I could care less how big the budget is or how well the fight scenes are done. It might as well be the damn Barney and friends with MK names. It doesn't even follow the original story line. Don't feed me a shit sandwich and try to tell me its steak. This is anything but MK.

At this point any argument from you is moot.

Maybe I missed something here. What argument are talking about and why do we shame you as MK fans?

This teaser isn't Mortal Kombat.