I think this is a great trhead. Hope to see people posting alot here. You'll see my feedback on some charachters soon, and i would love some feedback for De Kai and De Kio aswell.

I do so enjoy reading people's opinions about things.

I think I'll write some, but I'm a bit afraid to. I tend to stream of conscious these things and that can result in an overly massive mess of criticism/compliment.

I like this idea quite a bit. I would also like to bring some opinions into the mix... I may not be the best overall judge, but I can spot real creativity from a mile away.... Hence I tend to rip things apart in my own mind. What fun! Mental dismemberment!

Here's hoping it doesn't spawn arguments.

I'll repost my official critiques in this topic.

Good thread idea, I'll have to do some soon, I want to as coherent of an assessment as possible.

Disclaimer: I'm a pretty hard person to satisfy, so some characters will get hammered. Please note we are all aware that time was limited and some people just hashed their characters together without an appropriate amount of time. All criticism is constructive and no offense is ever meant when analyzing a character. Questions are welcome as always. Round one is already over and I already take hours to do a round analysis so I wont be covering that like I said I would. sorry guys. The more I find off, the longer my posts will be.

Round 2 In depth analysis

Match one: Gendo/Ravyn

Gendo:

Alignment: being kind hearted but angry when pushed can describe most any fighter, even some evil ones will act like adults until provoked. The description does not give a definitive answer on good or evil or neutral. you have to read the Bio to discern that Gendo is probably "Neutral-Good"

Fighting style is unorthodox and uses a dagger at times but other than that provides little insight to how exactly Gendo fights.

Primary costume description of Gendo only makes sense to me in that I know who the little old guy from ninja scroll is. No real context is given as to what parts of him are similar to Liu and Shang. I was forced to imagine a tall version of the old man in Ninja Scroll to visualize the character. No real effort placed in the alt costume description. as a result Gendo is almost impossible for me to visualize.

Special moves:
Heart of darkness seems to be a one sided variation of Dark Kombat. this creates a very unfair advantage that would best be seen on the challenge tower rather than viable in an actual mortal kombat game.

Evil eye is a free hit variation of quan chi's trance, the enhanced version could use some other effect than just doubling the time it is effective. maybe that would help if the opponent was a screen away.

Leap is a normal jump that goes further and may have more moves attached to it. Jumps are hard enough to execute right without being punished for them, making a longer jump would only give the enemy more frames to plan a counter.

Lightning bolt: literally a carbon copy of raiden's lightning, aside from animation if the enhanced version is to be believed.

Flame shock is the most interesting move in the mix here, it behaves a lot like liu Kang's fire in the first MK film, and the second version I would assume to be an uppercut or some variation as it is meant to be a pop up. Good work on this one.

Xray: Ok so they get face punched hard enough to be turned around, then the throat is slit with a spell effect. What spell effect? what is it? what does it do, How does it damage the opponent?

First fatality is a pretty standard head rip, perhaps if we had a description of what the demon looks like it would be better received on my part.

Fatality 2 is not described very well at all, seems rushed.

Bio: the ending for this character is the best part of the entire design in my opinion. Like an under cover cop who infiltrates and becomes a mob leader, only to tare it apart from within. The beginning is not as good but provides an adequate story.

Advice and constructive criticism: When no picture is provided, try to describe your character as much as possible, spare no detail, and remember, you always have time to tweak your entry until the contests start. Tell us what parts of the character are similar to the in game fighters as well. He has Dakuan's hat but how old or young is he? if parts of him look like shang is it the manner of dress or his face/hair? what parts look like liu? etc.

try to make all the specials as original as possible. make your character truly your own. Don't give up, people only get good at what they do with practice. Above all, take your time.

Ravyn:

Great bio and character description, the only downside being that empathy isn't really a power. It would be more fitting if she was simply described as a character who exhibits power over the emotions of others, or if apathy was added to the vocabulary of the description as empathy is its opposite.

Character is beautifully drawn, easy to imagine and HAWT attractive.

Other than the blatant scorpion rip-off, all special moves shown here appear to be original and in great taste. however the Scream seems a bit weak. It only works in tandem with the chain spear and doesn't seem like it belongs in an MK game. the moves appear to represent a fast moving character.

X-ray is well thought out and works flawlessly with the mechanics of MK9.

the fatalities are great but the second one seems a bit like Ermac's Hara Kiri from Deception. calling it a brain melter would seem more fitting.

The taunt and pre/post fight poses add great personality to the character and make the use of the spear more attractive than scorpion's less liberal use of the weapon visually.

The ending for Ravyn uses her powers to illustrate a great usefulness against the mindless hordes of shinnok. where as more powerful beings may not be affected. (In a fight with my character Ire for instance, Ravyn would have to beat shinnok or find a way to destroy Ire's Helm in order to access his mind, as it is already being controlled by outside forces.)

Possible improvements: perhaps a teleport in place of the standard spear move? the spear arc was great and man people just love to steal scorpions moves, even the developers. Other than that and the distinction between empathy and apathy. This character is near flawless. Having the enemy run away when screamed at doesn't seem like it belongs in mk, perhaps a different effect. The similarity to that and sindel's scream aren't nearly as important from an originality standpoint as scorpion's spear. So it is not an issue for me.


Winner: Ravyn

Match 2: Nirvana vs. Okorik

Nirvana:

The whip vine and wrist snap seem too similar. Other than that and a lack of enhanced specials, Nirvana is a flawless and totally original character the likes of which should, from a strict development perspective, make it all the way to the top. Best character so far.

Possible improvements: make enhanced specials and combine the parries together.

Okorik:

Although not drawn, Okorik's description is vivid and extremely detailed. everything about him is original and impressive to boot. his speed as a fighter is easy to comprehend. and his X-ray move is detailed so well it took no imagination on my part what-so-ever to visualize it. His ending is similar to Ire's, so similar in fact I think they are the perfect team. (which is eerie given the fact that in the role-play thread we may be doing just that.) His specials are incredibly balanced and his sticky bomb fireball is perfect for combo set up and original to boot! brilliant execution through-and-through.

Possible improvements: needs enhanced specials, do that and I think we have a flawless victory here.

Winner: Nirvana was excellent but Okorik was even better, everything was balanced and looked perfect for MK. In the end there is nothing wrong with Nirvana really. but Okorik comes out on top in my book. With any luck I'll get to face him in the 3-way, and probably lose.

Match 3: ATAXIA/ADSLER

ATAXIA:

Ataxia is great in all aspects except the knee breaking part of her x-ray would not likely produce the momentum to flip the opponent, but then again friction from the arena floor might make that possible in the realm of MK. Nothing is missing in the form of character design.

ADSLER:

Adsler is probably the most original concept I've come across in awhile. The fatalities seem gruesome even with the lack of blood in them as well. For me it came down to which one of these characters I liked the most instead of flaws as there are really none in either kombatant. (the way it should be)

Winner: Ataxia by the skin of her teeth. Adsler's quick jerky fighting style makes my brain think seizure time rather than pleasant to look at.

FlamingTP - I want to say thank you for giving Ravyn such an in-depth analysis. If I don't end up getting very far in this tourney, I want to at least take away from this something I know for fact I can improve on, rather than the seemingly too common critique of "Rips-Off Scorpion's Spear too much" that I'm seeing thus far. Except for that one move, I tried my damnedest to make her as far away from him with her move set as possible, but people seem to only focus on one thing and run with it.

I was a little too broad with my description of her empathic abilities, though I'm confused when you say it should be described more as apathy? Apathy is the absence of emotions or complete indifference by definition, and that's certainly not what Ravyn is. Perhaps I should have used the term "empathic projection/manipulation" as a more narrow description of her core powers.

You are right about the emotions, I just had a brain fart as I often seem to do. Empathy tells me that a person can understand someone's emotions, not necessarily control them. when the word empathy is used it tends to strike me as a moral supportive trait rather than a combat ability.

Match one

KRUOR

Original blood idea, great drawings and stellar story, fighting style consistent with design. Well thought out, no issues here.

Backlash move doesn't fit with MK's mechanics, that being when someone teleports behind you the warrior always turns around, perhaps activating is like a parry where kruor performs the move before an enemy teleport or as the enemy is jumping. If something appears behind him, the parry activates and the move is executed.

Sheeva's stomp is avoidable by means of an uppercut punish as well, this should be reflected in the blood rain.

The second part of the ending belongs in the intro to the next game, so it interrupts the flow a bit. Kruor also seems like a boss character rather than a legit kombatant and should be toned down a bit, too many handicap effects.

ALEXANDRA

Bio is way too long and is written kind of funny, so much so that I could not read beyond the part where shao kahn only refuses to return her to her father because he is happy with his prize. not evil enough mr kahn.

ok yeah, I can tell this character was worked on with plenty of forethought but the long drawn out writing just makes me very disinterested. plus Greece is now in modern times, did she go back in time to her own people or what?

Winner: Kruor

apparently I didn't have time to vote in the other two matches :(

Merrick

Pros:
- The bio is well written and does give you a sense of Merrick as a disillusioned healer who spends a lot of his life wandering aimlessly.
- Your description of the staff and the fighting style is simple yet vivid. I can picture how he moves, how he swings the staff, etc. However, for the description of how Merrick holds the staff, you should just say his left or right hand. We can figure it out from there. Also, you went into a little too much detail with his strengths and weaknesses in game (combos, damage scaling, etc.) I usually consider that stuff superfluous.
- His powers are well thought through and they are unique in the MK universe. The only character I can really compare him to is Shang and that’s on a microscopic level.
- His primary costume is strong with the small details pushing it beyond average. The Caduceus is a lovely touch (although, it technically should be the rod of Asclepius. It’s a mistake made in North America) but I feel the scythe is a little too much. How would he use the staff as a walking stick if there is a blade at the bottom?
- Vitalized Eyes and Sleeping Limbs are creative uses of Merrick’s healing ability. Something that is usually envisioned as a defensive tool is being used offensively. I also enjoyed his special moves where he enhanced different parts of his body to inflict damage.
- Both your fatalities are very imaginative and aptly named. I might have Merrick be a little more than disgusted in the first one, maybe even a little uncomfortable using that amount of necrotic power. I like how you think outside the box with the second and incorporate the life-bar but the opponent exploding is too cliché. I suggest if the muscles swelled so much that the skin started to tear and all that was left was a hulking figure comprising entirely of muscle.
- His taunts are strong especially the one that mentions the Hippocratic Oath.
- The ending, while bordering on stereotypical, has the nice twist of being corrupted yet still envisioning that he’s bringing nature and beauty to those he rules over. You might want to connect Merrick’s love of natural beauty (maybe Edenia’s) somewhere just so the ending makes more sense.

Cons:
- Keeping the bio shortish left some big questions in my mind. What did Merrick do for those millennia in between Edenia’s fall and arriving at Earthrealm? How long has he been on Earth? Has he been taking a cue from the movie Highlander and creating a new identity every generation? Earth is his new home and he seems passionate about it but why? How did he plant roots here?
- You also mention how he can’t compete in the MK tourney because of his background. I wish you had just touched on this in the ending (even though it still works because he rules Outworld) just to bring it full circle.
- You make mention to Caduceus and the Hippocratic Oath both of which are from the Greek mythos. It niggles me that an Edenian would be using symbols from Gods from another world and another culture. I do realize that’s he’s been alienated from his realm and these symbols and ideas are tied with medicine but I couldn’t quite get past that. Maybe delving deeper into his relationship with Earth and being a doctor would fix that.
- Alternate costume is pretty bland.
- He’s a doctor. It makes sense. He has the background as a healer. Question is does he want to be one? It sounds like he does because you say he’s found a life on Earth because of this. However, right after you mention this, you say how he’s abandoned pacifism and now wants to fight. To lift this burden and anger that he’s been carrying for eons. There’s the conflict. Does he want to heal and help or does he want to turn dark and use the negative effects of his power? Or is he straddling the line between both? I couldn’t get a sense of what direction you wanted to go and I don’t think it was for ambiguities sake.
- X-ray is too much like Sub-Zero’s. Rather than attack the liver, Merrick should pinpoint the muscles of the opponent. Example, staff to back (back of ribs break), weaken legs as they stumble, fall on knees and break them due to lack of muscle tissue, weaken hands, wrists shatter as they brace while falling forward, end with staff to the skull.
- The life deterioration aspect irked me. I can see why this choice was made but it almost negates the healing powers of Merrick. Why does he have both? Why would a healer need to injure? Do all Edenian healers have the ability to drain life? If they did, couldn’t they have used this rather powerful ability to stave off Kahn’s invasion? You utilized the necrotic power quite well but it would’ve so much more interesting if you had limited Merrick to only healing/boosting abilities. You did it with Vitalized Eyes and Apoptosis and I would love to see more offensive possibilities with this power.
- If you expand on Merrick’s back-story, his experiences in Edenia, his years as a lost soul, his experiences on Earth, the progression of being a wide eyed healer wanting to help people to a jaded fighter who is still uncomfortable using his abilities for harm you will strengthen the character immeasurably. Also, make a clear decision about his personality: Is Merrick a badass healer who has no trouble killing or is he reluctantly in the tournament to stop Kahn from destroying another realm?

I think this is a rather interesting idea. I wouldn't mind hearing opinions about my character, Kayatsu Arashi. (Be nice, but be honest, please.) I may post some reviews myself.

I need to get more on the ball with these, I know.

No rush. We know you have a lot to do. :D

What KnightMysterio said. We appreciate ALL the work you've put into this and I think a lot of us have the patience to wait. There's still about three weeks left of the tournament as well.

Probably will try to move my critiques over to this topic later tonight or tomorrow. Since there's less discussion and any discussion will be about critiques, users who may not be waiting on me daily will be able to find their feedback easier.

@Crow: Might not be a bad idea. That way people don't have to comb through the threads to find reviews. I've also linked your critiques in the first post so people can find them easier.

This is a compilation of acidslayers' small critiques for every single character. Quite the feat. The list is alphabetical:

abyss - like the use of bones during combos. dont care for the fatalitys though. you have an interesting match taunt. not digging his alternate outfit.

adsler - like her fighting style. like the special move alabaster spear. the xray is not that great.. both fatalitys are unique in a good way. why restore the gods. why not take the power for herself.

ail - like primary outfit. not really caring for the victory pose. it would of been better if he embraced chaos instead of embracing both sides.

akari - enjoyed the ending. liked his alternate outfit.. liked the luminous sphere special. xray is kind of generic. his entrance is kind of cheesy.

akkro - liked the robotic leg. don't really care for his alternate attire. like the grab+missile to face special. xray is kinda boring. liked his match taunt.

alexandra - liked her fighting style. like the spear throw and sword spin special. her match taunt is to happy. didn't like the remorse in her ending.

annette - i liked that your character could communicate with spirts even though she eventually felt overburdened by it. i disliked the rapier but liked the use of the whip. liked the xray. don't care for her entrance. didn't care for her losing the spirit.

ataxia - like the chaos shield special. like victory pose. like aternate costume. don't like fatal 1.

aurore - like her alt outfit but don't care for her main attire. like 1,2,flip. match taunt is a bit generic. why relocate to new mexico in her ending.

bachi li - i like the fact he is a guardian of a color. like the fact he can summon weapons. i don't care for his primary because it has to much purple. not digging his 2nd outfit. cool xray. i liked that he finally got peace.

black widow - not caring for her primary outfit. like the summersault attack special. enjoyed the sai boomerang special. xray isn't very creative. i liked the fact she trains fighters in her ending.

casilde - like the use of capoeria in her fighting style. not caring for her primary outfit. like the special night cover. interesting xray. ending was to short.

cerastes - like his fighting style. don't care for his primary attire. i like the snake whip kick special. enjoyed the xray. it would of been better if he killed reiko.

chi zong - not digging both of his attires. interesting fatality 2.liked his victory pose. to many projectiles.

clyde - like his primary attire. interesting special moves. xray is kinda boring. neat gory fatals. entance,match taunt,victory pose are kinda lame. enjoyed his ending.

cross - interesting bio. xray is kinda generic. neat fatal 1. victory pose could of been better. didn't care for his ending.

dekai + dekio - i like the idea of 1 soul divided into 2 bodies. the outfits are bland. the match taunt was ok. didn't care for the special moves.

delilah - i like the fact she created the amulet for Raiden. the fighting style could be more in depth. xray is ok. like the ending. the victory pose is boring.

deon bordeaux - like the alternate attire. i like the wizard defense special. interesting friendship. i disliked that he defeated quan chi and shinnok so easy in his ending. fighting style could be more detailed.

destroyer 1 - like the idea of a cyborg with his own mind intact. interesting fighting style. neat fatality 1. xray could of been different.

drakon - bio is a bit to long. fighting style is a bit generic. liked fatality 1. his ending would of been better if his memory did not return. his victory pose is ok.

ekibyogami - i liked the idea of an lazy god. it would of been better if he did not help Raiden. cool fighting style. don't care for his primary attire. i like the blood rain special. awesome xray. there's just to much locust.

ekimaru - i liked that your character learned kendo. like the use of 2 swords. to many fire moves. xray is ok. weird babality.

erebus - to many transformations makes your character look overpowered. like the necromancer character idea. neat attires. a tad to many specials. love the match taunt. ending was cheesy.

erzhra - interesting fighting style. don't like the alternate attire. not much use of light. needs more light. good throws.

eterus - has to much orange. like the fighting style. not digging his specials. neat fatality 1.

fear - your bio is to long. like the attires. like the hypnosis special move. xray could of been explained more. don't care for his entrance,match taunt, and victory pose. neat fatal 2.

frigid - like the mystic mist and sliding dagger special moves. neat xray. fatality 1 is ok. fighting style is a bit bland. why was frost the only one in earthrealm.

fu lei - like the character is a shadow priest. don't like his alternate outfit. to many portal moves. like the get up.

hana - i don't really understand your bio but i do like the revenge. decent fighting style. like primary attire. cool specials but could use a few more though. xray is a bit bland. decent match taunt.

howahkan - like that your character is a drifter. fighting style is ok. primary attire has to much brown. decent alternate attire. like the paralytic dart special. the entrance is a bit campy.

ire - i like the fact your character paid a price for tramendous power. fighting style is ok. primary attire has alot more detail than alternate but both are lacking something. i don't know what. like the crossbow special. neat xray. love fatal 1. it would of been better if he stayed insane.

isis - i like that your character comes from egypt. decent fighting style. alternate attire is lacking. fatal 1 is ok. the entrance is a bit campy. like the splitting snake special.

jared - don't care for his fighting style. alternate attire is ok. to many light moves. i enjoyed fatality 2. the match taunt is a bit dull. it would of been better if he killed Raiden.

kain - i like that your character trains with many weapons. why choose the dragon. there is a bit of lack of discription on your attires. like the gun blast special. xray is ok. to much use of knifes. like victory pose.

karma - i like that she was created by the death of mk fighters. fighting style is generic. attires are ok but could use more detail. i like the poison ivy throw special. entrance is good. it would of been better if she stayed evil.

karundi - i like that your character comes from the chaosrealm. fighting style is a bit bland. his alternate attire is kind of goofy. xray could of been different. fatality 1 is sweet. love the victory pose. enjoyed the killer backhand special.

kayatsu arashi - like how she freed the creatures from the flesh pits. interesting fighting style. don't care for the alternate attire. enjoyed the saurian slam special. xray is a bit generic. neat match taunt.

keilenaten - i like the idea of a warrior that comes from a forebidden realm. i liked that she killed her parents. bio is a bit longer than i expected. interesting fighting style. to much gold. could use some gemstones to add some color. like the time freeze special. to many teleports. love fatal 2.

kevshi - is my character so i will put a ? to see what you guys and girls think about my character. give honest feedback.

khaali - enjoyed her fighting style. neat attires but have to much detail. bad kitty special is a bit boring. fatality 2 is cool. to much dashing.

khibok - it's interesting your character is an ape. does your character have any relation to moloch. why get trained by kung lao. bio is a bit long. his fighting style is it like Bo Rai Cho or more like the character from doa3. like spike special move.neat match taunt. xray is a bit dull. not digging his primary attire but his alternate i am liking.

kimya - i like your fighting style. what was the spell Quan Chi cast on him. your alternate attire is better than your primary. xray is a bit bland. to many teleports. enjoyed victory pose. like the snake trap special.

komodo - i liked that your character is a mixed gender. i like the fighting style. fatal 1 is a bit to funny. enjoyed both attires. play dead special is a bit cheap. love the xray. like the victory pose.

kortika - i like that your character lives in the sea. fighting style is ok. enjoyed alternate attire more than primary. to many special moves. really enjoyed your xray. uses pincers to much. enjoyed entrance. to much lava.

krimson - like that your character is a merc. fighting style is ok. like the spark bombs special. decent fatality 1. entrance is a bit generic.

kruor - don't care for his leaping smash special. interesting fighting style. both attires are good. xray is great. victory pose is a bit cheesy.

krustacean - interesting bio. moon cheese!!!!!!!!!!!!!! neat fighting style could be explained more. love the moonwalk special. fatality 2 is genious. to many claw attacks. enjoyed the alternate attire more than the primary.

kuwinda - like the realm she came from. fighting style is ok. like primary outfit. dislike the alternate outfit. geo kick special is pretty cool. enjoyed xray. to much use of axes.

levyatan - liked that your character entered the tournament for a high body count. fighting style is ok but could use more detail. attires are fine. to much use of dashing. victory pose is alright.

limbo - like that his soul became 2 people. fighting style isn't that original but it get's the job done. chaos choke special is nice. both attires are quite good. victory pose is generic.

lonin regon - bio is ok. fighting style is alright. cool victory pose. both attires are good but could use more detail.

lorsid - bio is a bit short but it is good. interesting fighting style. to much use of the whip. neat entrance.

lucci - like that he betrayed onaga. like the use of the elements. could use a few more specials. victory pose is a bit lame. to much use of fire. use the other elements a bit more.

luna - i like the fact she sparred with the last of the earthrealm warriors. interesting fighting style. not digging her primary attire but the alternate attire i like. i enjoyed her victory pose and her ending. i enjoyed her sythe air throw special. love fatality 2. to much use of the sythe. will eclipse have new moves.

mahou - i like the idea of a puifyer of souls. fight syle needs more detail. love fatality 2. to much use of the talisman. to much use of spirits. attires are ok.

malcom - i liked that he betrayed kano. fighting style is ok. love both attires. to much use of knifes. to much use of bombs/grenades. i enjoyed the sticky flash special. ending is cool.

malice - like that your character has multiple personalities. the fighting style is very unique. both fatalitys rock. victory pose could of been better. xray is a bit to similar to her specials. enjoyed the night terror special move.

marek - i like that he is a shadow priest. attires are alright. enjoyed the axe toss special. to much use of fire. could use more specials. it's good that he took the throne.

merrick - like that he is a healer. decent fighting style. like the use of colors in your attires. weird babality. interesting victory pose.

mr mute - interesting fighting style. attires arn't that detailed. to much use of words and letters. i liked that he striked down kahn.

musashi - both attires are good. like the scorpion kick special. babality is alright. decent entrance. needs more specials.

neuros - i liked that your charcter disguised himself before entering the tournament. it was good that he trained under havik. fighting style is ok. decent attires. enjoyed kusarigama hook special. fantastic xray. to much use of nexus.

n'hikin - i liked that he was created from the flesh pits. neat fighting style but could use more detail. mutilated throw special is good. enjoyed primary attire. to much use of screams. fatality was nice.

nirvana - like that she's a godess of earth/nature. fighting style is a bit boring. like attires. enjoyed needle spit special. to much use of the vine. nice match taunt.

nokan - i liked that he lived on his own at a young age. fighting style could use more detail. decent attires. to much use of knife. enjoyed match taunt. it would of been better if he stayed evil.

nyctaro - attires are great. neat fighting style. to much use of whip. enjoyed bat scream special. love fatality 2.

okorik - i like that he was part of a group of samurai's. fighting style is ok. to much use of teleports. both attires are good. enjoyed victory pose.

oksana - i liked that she would do anything to get onaga back to his throne. interesting fighting style. to much use of teleports. decent entrance. nice ending.

onyx - i like that he is a golem. fighting style is ok. decent attires. landslide special is sweet. to much use of charging. nice entrance.

peterson - alright fighting style. i liked that he was in the vietnam war. attires are ok. enjoyed the luminous sphere special. love fatality 1. cool match taunt. to much use of guns.

psionic - like the use of mma but needs more detail. special moves are lacking descriptions. to much use of tk. decent victory pose.

psyria - i like that she is a female god. love the alternate attire. to much use of vines. enjoyed the special fog parrry.

ravyn - i like that she can read and influence peoples emotions. decent fighting style. enjoyed the chain slash special. decent entrance. to much use of the chain. fatality 2 is sick.

revenant - fighting style is a bit bland. attires are alright. i like that your character is a late teenager. enjoyed fatality 1. to much use of needles.

russell - i like that your character has schizophrenia. fighting style is alright. babality is ok. decent match taunt. he shouldn't of apologised to jax and sonya.

salzar - decent fighting style. interesting attires. match taunt and victory pose are lame. i enjoyed the arrow barrage special.

sapheera - fighting style could use more detail. awsome attires. to much use of sand. the character reminds me of the sirens from the god of war games.

scorch - fighting style could use more detail. to much use of ice. enjoyed the invisibility.

senji - decent fighting style. i like that he worships fujin. not caring for the attires. enjoyed the leg sweep special. neat match taunt.

serenity - i like that she is a goddess of time. fantastic fighting style. i also like using tira. to much use of the ring blade. i enjoyed the ring toss special. fatality 1 is sweet.

shade - fighting style could use more detail. decent attires. enjoyed the chi orb special. to much use of blur.

shika or shiku not sure which one it is - enjoyed fighting style. like the special up chuck's. to much use of staff.

shiloh - interesting fighting style. like that he is a teenager. decent attires. could use more specials. killed kahn a little to easy.

shingai - interesting fighting style. attires are alright. to much use of tant. cool victory pose.

shoulen - decent fighting style. both attires are good. awsome fatality 2. enjoyed the giant chopper special. to much shaping of his arms/hands. need more leg/feet shaping.

snake - i like that he seeks revenge on the black dragon. cool fighting style. nice entrance. decent attires. to much use of sword.

snow - fighting style could use more detail. like the ice knife special. enjoyed fatality 1. to much use of the ice knife.

synder - ok primary attire. love the entrance. decent fighting style. not caring for his specials. ending is alright.

tao fei - i like that that he uses multiple elements. bio is a bit long. enjoyed the heavy water special. xray is a bit generic. decent attires. very peaceful ending.

terek - i like that he's a smart tarkatan. very discriptive fighting style. it was quite good. to much use of dashing. to much use of blades.

terra - decent attires. enjoyed the earth trap special. to much use of rocks/boulders. enjoyed her xray.

torment - cool fighting style. interesting attires. to much use of web. nice match taunt. awsome fatality 1.

tyron magnum - decent attires. enjoyed the nunchuck parry special. entance is a bit generic. fatality 2 is short and sweet.

x - i like that he is a user of black magic. attires are alright. could use more specials. brutal fatal 1. he defeated Quan Chi and Shinnok to easy.

yamiko - i like that she is a priestess to the eldar gods. fighting style is alright. to much use of demons. demon choke special is good.

yaray - extended bio is extended. interesting fighting style. like the split special. decent babality. victory pose was quite entertaining.

zhi - i liked that kahn could not travel. decent fighting style. enjoyed ring toss special. victory pose is boring.

@Crow and the MKO Community

I would like to get some honest critiques on my character Black Widow for she was eliminated in the first round. I know she had a bit of an excessive move set. But I figured that the numerous moves would better explain her gameplay and also make her stand out more as a character.

I feel also that because she is a Kunoichi warrior that there would be a bias against her because there are various ninja characters in MK. I've also gotten several comments about her having sai weapons, as to incinuate that she is a rip of Mileena. I disagree because she would use the weapons in a different way and her weapons would be incorporated more in her fighting techniques than Mileena.

So I'd just like to get some honest critiques from people who voted in the Day 5 match up between Black Widow and Krustacean. I felt that I had a solid character that stood a decent chance to win this tournament. So if anyone of you have the spare time I would like to get some feedback on WHY you may have voted Krustacean over my character. Thanks.

I did like Black Widow, and also liked that she was the only character with real pictures up. I was also a fan of her story within the Shirai Ryu, especially that she was known for being outspoken, not just another amped up serial killing ninja. I always thought the Shirai Ryu didnt get enough shine, and the Lin Kuei dominate the ninja storyline, so it was refreshing to see a story from the opposite side. Only thing I didnt get was how Shang Tsung had her under an "obedience spell" I guess I would call it. I think thats Quan Chi's thing, but maybe Im wrong.

WAAAAYYYYY too many moves. The limit was 3-8, although I wish it had been 10 or so because I left out a few moves that I think had potential to boost my characters chances at moving on. Most of your moves were good, (heavy influence from Cyrax and Mileena) but way too much teleportation, and you never mention how in fact she has the ability to teleport. I did like the sommersalt attack and hologram deal...but again dont know how she can do it. X ray was weak, and I couldnt tell what was going on with the first fatality, but I did like the second one. And the ending where she gets together with all those chicks? Hard to see that happening as some are bitter rivals to the other clans.

If you put a little more of you into this and less ofother characters, and at least a little detail of HOW she has her abilities, this would have been a VERY strong character. And narrowed down the movelist. Still a strong character in my eyes, and I can tell good thought went into her.

I did like your character tho, which puts her probably in the top third, as alot of them I feel neutral about, or just plain didnt like, and some that are insane. Good work.

thanks Ab_Horrence i was eventually going to do what you did with the lists i created. saved me much time. thanks.

i will rate the characters from 1-10 how i feel about each character and will post it in this topic. i'm going to give my honest scores for each character. so if you don't like my score it's to bad because it's how i would score the character. the score will be different depending on moves,appearance,fighting style,bio,and etc. so i'm not hating on any characters just want to give honest scores.

@theBigMistake

I'd first like to thank you for your detailed and honest analysis of my character, Black Widow. I had some ideas for this character since MK2 in my head, but never really but it down in written form until a platform like this was presented so I would also like to thank you, Crow and the MKO Community for creating a venue like this to showcase fan created characters.

In response to your critique, I would say that Black Widow's specialty moves center around teleportation because of her Black Arts training within the ranks of the Shirai Ryu. I guess I glossed over the details of that, but for the sake of ease of reading, I tried to limit going into extreme detail about her backstory.

Also because she welds sai weapons which by nature are close range weapons and her code name being "Black Widow", I thought I would need to showcase an element of her elusiveness and deceptive fighting style. I thought teleports showcased in a more creative way would give her a standout fighting style and game play from already established characters and also make her a more efficient effective fighter in terms of game play. I guess this tactic didn't win over the voters enough. But to each his own.

As far as her ending and reuniting with the various women, they were supposed to be the "known" remaining survivors of the Shirai Ryu Ninja Clan. Some have criticized that this would affect Scorpion's backstory but I felt it would be plausible for a few survivors to exists from a war between the Lin Kuei and Shirai Ryu without Scorpion's knowledge, being that he was supposed to be killed by Sub-Zero.

I do appreciate the compliments of comments you made about the backstory angle and the visual of Black Widow. I really had a specific look for her to focus her attire on a more of a militarized combative ninja rather than a seductive/raunchy styled ninja.

@Crow and MKO Community

I would like to have more critiques of my character in Black Widow if anyone has the energy to do so, for I know that they are a lot of character to critique, I just felt that I stood a decent chance of winning this tournament. So I would just like to have some honest feedback of WHY some voted against my character.

There seems to be some confusion on how Crow is doing his critiques of characters. Here's a summary from his posts to explain how he's going about it:



At this point, he's at Gendo, the eighth person to be eliminated. That is only from the 2nd day so it's going to take him awhile to get to certain people. Best is just to be patient and try some of the members in the community to get feedback. That being said, there is a certain etiquette that will help you get critiques.

The first is not to just do an announcement to the entire forum saying 'Why didn't you vote for my character?' or 'Please someone give me a review.' People generally disregard these messages and you're left without a critique.

You can ask people directly, maybe those you've formed a friendship with on the forum, to rate your character. This is less intrusive and is a good way to get results.

There are some people that are doing reviews upon request. Mojo6 and Espio872 and myself (well, I was but now I'm kind holding back since there were so many requests and it takes a long time to do them and I'm busy with other things at the moment) are trying to get some thorough reviews in for those that ask. There's now a waiting list for some so contact the person directly and they'll get to you eventually.

Try a you-scratch-my-back-I'll-scratch-yours approach and tell someone you'll review their character if they review yours.

Most importantly, be friendly and easy going about a critique request. If you're really sensitive about your character and you need someone to tell you either that they're a) awesome or b) what's really wrong with them and why you got eliminated, people are going to be able to sense your anxiousness around it. That will turn people off. I definitely don't want all that pressure.

Hope this clarifies a few things. Post here if you have any questions.

abyss - 6/10

adsler - 8/10

ail - 5/10

akari - 5/10

akkro - 5/10

alexandra - 5/10

annette - 6/10

ataxia - 5/10

aurore - 4/10

bachi li - 7/10

black widow - 6/10

casilde - 6/10

cerastes - 7/10

chi zong - 4/10

clyde - 5/10

cross - 4/10

dekai + dekio - 4/10

delilah - 5/10

deon bordeaux - 6/10

destroyer 1 - 6/10

drakon - 4/10

ekibyogami - 7/10

ekimaru - 5/10

erebus - 7/10

erzhra - 5/10

eterus - 4/10

fear - 6/10

frigid - 5/10

fu lei - 5/10

hana - 5/10

howahkan - 6/10

ire - 5/10

isis - 6/10

jared - 5/10

kain - 6/10

karma - 7/10

karundi - 6/10

kayatsu arashi - 6/10

keilenaten - 7/10

kevshi - ?/10 i'd like to hear what you guys and girls would rate my character 1-10.

khaali - 5/10

khibok - 5/10

kimya - 6/10

komodo - 7/10

kortika - 6/10

krimson - 5/10

kruor - 4/10

krustacean - 6/10

kuwinda - 5/10

levyatan - 4/10

limbo - 5/10

lonin regon - 5/10

lorsid - 6/10

lucci - 5/10

luna - 7/10

mahou - 6/10

malcom - 5/10

malice - 8/10

marek - 6/10

merrick - 6/10

mr mute - 5/10

musashi - 4/10

neuros - 6/10

n'hikin - 7/10

nirvana - 6/10

nokan - 5/10

nyctaro - 7/10

okorik - 6/10

oksana - 5/10

onyx - 5/10

peterson - 5/10

psionic - 4/10

psyria - 6/10

ravyn - 8/10

revenant - 6/10

russell - 5/10

salzar - 4/10

sapheera - 7/10

scorch - 5/10

senji - 5/10

serenity - 6/10

shade - 5/10

shika or shiku not sure which one it is - 6/10

shiloh - 5/10

shingai - 4/10

shoulen - 5/10

snake - 7/10

snow - 4/10

synder - 5/10

tao fei - 6/10

terek - 5/10

terra - 5/10

torment - 7/10

tyron magnum - 6/10

x - 5/10

yamiko - 6/10

yaray - 5/10

zhi - 5/10

this is my scores for every character in the tournament. hope you enjoyed.

Go on then I'm happy for some feed back on Malice and I'm happy to answer any questions anyone has about her