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05/06/2013 03:47 AM (UTC)
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She's gone beyond that though. Same for Nightwing, Catwoman, Wonder Girl, etc. They of course started off as sidekicks to other heroes but they've branched out and are their own independent characters now.
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05/06/2013 03:54 AM (UTC)
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She's gone beyond that though. Same for Nightwing, Catwoman, Wonder Girl, etc. They of course started off as sidekicks to other heroes but they've branched out and are their own independent characters now.


They have, but they're still in the same category for me. At least the others changed their names and/or costumes and are a far cry from their main hero. I don't want to harp Batgirl *hell yeah, SBFFs!* but I just think any of those other characters would have been better as DLC. If she was going to be in the game, she should have already been in the game in the first place.
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05/06/2013 04:56 AM (UTC)
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I wouldn't say they were a far cry from their sidekickier days but I think they've all moved on fairly well. Batgirl isn't tethered to Batman or struggling to differentiate herself from him or anything.
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05/06/2013 07:13 AM (UTC)
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oracle Wrote:
I wouldn't say they were a far cry from their sidekickier days but I think they've all moved on fairly well. Batgirl isn't tethered to Batman or struggling to differentiate herself from him or anything.


That doesn't change how people percieve her. People still see Nightwing as a Batman character, though he has moved on his own. That Batgirl is still called Batgirl will have people keep associating her with Batman and see her as just a sidekick.
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05/06/2013 07:33 AM (UTC)
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But can anyone find an actual post from NRS using that pic? I've only seen hearsay.



**bangs head into wall**


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05/06/2013 08:49 AM (UTC)
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just a sidekick.
Das where my frustration is lol.
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05/06/2013 11:55 AM (UTC)
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I'm asking for NRS posting those pics. So far you've only linked me to pictures fans have posted or game news sites. Is it possible that a fan made the Manhunter silhouette and added it to the lineup and nobody caught on that it wasn't directly from NRS?
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05/06/2013 01:07 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
oracle Wrote:
I wouldn't say they were a far cry from their sidekickier days but I think they've all moved on fairly well. Batgirl isn't tethered to Batman or struggling to differentiate herself from him or anything.


That doesn't change how people percieve her. People still see Nightwing as a Batman character, though he has moved on his own. That Batgirl is still called Batgirl will have people keep associating her with Batman and see her as just a sidekick.


Exactly. It seems like she HAS to have Bat in her name just so people would take her seriously.
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05/06/2013 06:46 PM (UTC)
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Exactly. It seems like she HAS to have Bat in her name just so people would take her seriously.
Should she just be Girl? What even kind of criticism is that? There's a person named Shazam running around.
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05/06/2013 06:47 PM (UTC)
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MikeyRu Wrote:
I'm asking for NRS posting those pics. So far you've only linked me to pictures fans have posted or game news sites. Is it possible that a fan made the Manhunter silhouette and added it to the lineup and nobody caught on that it wasn't directly from NRS?


That pic is from NRS, are you stupid or what?
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05/06/2013 07:05 PM (UTC)
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GodlyShinnok Wrote:
MikeyRu Wrote:
I'm asking for NRS posting those pics. So far you've only linked me to pictures fans have posted or game news sites. Is it possible that a fan made the Manhunter silhouette and added it to the lineup and nobody caught on that it wasn't directly from NRS?


That pic is from NRS, are you stupid or what?


I think he means the full body silhouettes on white background. Where did that image appear? I still don't know the source of that picture, and I'm wondering if we were even supposed to see it, like was is found on the website's source code?

Clearly the characters were cropped on the season pass advert to look as generic as possible.
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05/06/2013 07:09 PM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
Exactly. It seems like she HAS to have Bat in her name just so people would take her seriously.
Should she just be Girl? What even kind of criticism is that? There's a person named Shazam running around.


Or she could just develop a new persona like Nightwing did?
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05/06/2013 07:15 PM (UTC)
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JAX007 Wrote:
GodlyShinnok Wrote:
MikeyRu Wrote:
I'm asking for NRS posting those pics. So far you've only linked me to pictures fans have posted or game news sites. Is it possible that a fan made the Manhunter silhouette and added it to the lineup and nobody caught on that it wasn't directly from NRS?


That pic is from NRS, are you stupid or what?


I think he means the full body silhouettes on white background. Where did that image appear? I still don't know the source of that picture, and I'm wondering if we were even supposed to see it, like was is found on the website's source code?

Clearly the characters were cropped on the season pass advert to look as generic as possible.


Oh, THAT one, website source code most probably, but even then, you can clearly tell that they are the same silhouettes from the official picture.
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05/06/2013 08:26 PM (UTC)
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GodlyShinnok Wrote:
JAX007 Wrote:
GodlyShinnok Wrote:
MikeyRu Wrote:
I'm asking for NRS posting those pics. So far you've only linked me to pictures fans have posted or game news sites. Is it possible that a fan made the Manhunter silhouette and added it to the lineup and nobody caught on that it wasn't directly from NRS?


That pic is from NRS, are you stupid or what?


I think he means the full body silhouettes on white background. Where did that image appear? I still don't know the source of that picture, and I'm wondering if we were even supposed to see it, like was is found on the website's source code?

Clearly the characters were cropped on the season pass advert to look as generic as possible.


Oh, THAT one, website source code most probably, but even then, you can clearly tell that they are the same silhouettes from the official picture.


I know they're the same. But whomever designed the advert could have easily just used placeholder images (one being MMH) and then crop them to not resemble any character.

Now, if the full body picture was cracked from a website or something they clearly were not meant to be released or seen.
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05/06/2013 08:30 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
oracle Wrote:
I wouldn't say they were a far cry from their sidekickier days but I think they've all moved on fairly well. Batgirl isn't tethered to Batman or struggling to differentiate herself from him or anything.


That doesn't change how people percieve her. People still see Nightwing as a Batman character, though he has moved on his own. That Batgirl is still called Batgirl will have people keep associating her with Batman and see her as just a sidekick.


Exactly. It seems like she HAS to have Bat in her name just so people would take her seriously.


Imagine her as Oracle. She could have a wheelchair with jet engine and tons of gadgets! Now THAT is a DLC I would buy. XD
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05/06/2013 08:46 PM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
Or she could just develop a new persona like Nightwing did?
She did and it was amazing but then the DCnU had her up and walking around again and ruined it tbh.
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05/06/2013 08:56 PM (UTC)
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Whelp not my fault they did that. When she changes her name from Batgirl to anything else, maybe I'll have respect for her. But until then...Nope
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05/06/2013 09:21 PM (UTC)
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Prayer circle you don't lose sleep over this unfathomable evil.
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05/06/2013 09:40 PM (UTC)
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JAX007 Wrote:
GodlyShinnok Wrote:
MikeyRu Wrote:
I'm asking for NRS posting those pics. So far you've only linked me to pictures fans have posted or game news sites. Is it possible that a fan made the Manhunter silhouette and added it to the lineup and nobody caught on that it wasn't directly from NRS?


That pic is from NRS, are you stupid or what?


I think he means the full body silhouettes on white background. Where did that image appear?


you mean this one?

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05/06/2013 10:25 PM (UTC)
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This song is dedicated to Batgirl's announcement.
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05/07/2013 11:40 AM (UTC)
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Yes - where did that image come from? Who posted it originally and where was it posted first?
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05/07/2013 01:00 PM (UTC)
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I'm honestly not shedding tears over her announcement, its just a bit meh for me personally.

I'd maybe be more enthusiastic if the game had a bigger roster, maybe over 30.
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05/07/2013 03:53 PM (UTC)
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Yes - where did that image come from? Who posted it originally and where was it posted first?


supposedly no one really knows and that is was originally posted on...whatever "TYM" is (probably a site idk, it's based off what I briefly read when I pulled the pic from an old thread in the graveyard lol)
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05/07/2013 05:59 PM (UTC)
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Then we don't know if NRS had anything at all to do with it...?
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05/08/2013 08:50 PM (UTC)
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I was a bit miffed about her being DLC but who knows I might love her.
I never expected Aquaman to be my main man that's for sure.
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