aw wow,im shocked to hear Kanyon died.I remember watching him when I was younger in WCW.I think he was having a feud with The Barbarian back then.R.I.P. Kanyon

i too was also shocked and saddened to hear of Kanyon's death

Loads Of WWE & TNA Talents Comment On Kanyon's Death

-- As of yesterday (Saturday) afternoon, Chris Kanyon was the No. 1 most searched item in the world on Google.

-- The following comments were posted on Twitter regarding the passing of Chris Kanyon:

- Becky Bayless: RIP Chris Kanyon. I'll always respect you for having the courage to be yourself in a world that doesn't always encourage that.

- Matt Hardy: Kanyon was always really cool to me.. Hate to hear the sad news. My best goes out to his family & loved one..

- Torrie Wilson: My bud Chris Kanyon died & my heart breaks for him. He was a good guy w/a big heart. so tired of my friends dyin like this. RIP cluster.

- Jeremy Borash: So many memories. Kanyon loved wrestling more than anyone and shared his knowledge helping many along the way. RIP to a longtime friend.

- The Hurricane: "RIP Chris Kanyon. He was a good guy that helped a LOT of people in this biz. He struggled with a lot of problems though. It's a sad day. When Kanyon "came out" he texts me with "I'm gay, that bother you?" My reply, "I'm not, does that bother YOU?" We laughed & stayed friends. He was unique that's for sure, we'd just texted a lil bit last week and he spoke again of his ups and downs with depression. That is a tough struggle!! But at least his struggles are over. He was a nutcase, good and bad, but I'll miss him nonetheless. RIP my friend. After being released fr WWE, Kanyon went to Vince & asked if Vince would do the "You're Fiiiiired" thing. Lol I believe at the Mania party."

- Taz: Sad to hear about Chris Kanyon RIP. ...thoughts & prayers out to his family.

- Kevin Nash: R.I.P Chris Kaynon prayers to his family and friends.

- Billy Kidman: Saddened by the loss of my best friend...I've known him for almost 15yrs & we've been there for one another through thick & thin, we've both had demons & dealt with them together, and I love him like a brother...RIP Chris I will forever & always miss & love you & cherish the time

- Shannon Moore: RIP Chris Kanyon!!!

- Tara: Chris Kanyon was a great guy and wrestler. He will be missed by all.

- Chris Jericho: God bless you Chris. We had some great times and you helped me alot during the WCW yrs. I never forgot...and I never will. Who better than Kanyon? Not many...

- Jim Ross: "Too bad about Chris Kanyon. Troubled, talented guy. Sad."

- Ken Anderson: "RIP Chris Kanyon. Hurricane Helms told me a very funny story involving him once. "are you wearing PANTS?!!!!"

- Dixie Carter: "On behalf of everyone at TNA, our deepest sympathies go out to the family of Chris Kanyon."

- Steve Austin: "yes i was sad to hear about chris. very nice guy. way too young to die."

- Bill Goldberg: "Sad to hear about Chris...RIP"

i always liked kanyon. i made a "best of' kanyon tape around 2001/2002 that had him goin around giving the kanyon cutter to everyone while wearing a ddp wig lol. it always sucks when a wrestler dies...but when they go like this, its really very sad.

and from one chris, to another....chris daniels is gone from tna. :/ one of my favs in tna and now hes gone and back to roh.

TNA really has no fucking clue on how to manage their roster. In one month, Daniels is a world title contender. The next, he's losing to Val fucking Venis. A couple of months later, both Daniels and Venis are gone.

What the fuck are they thinking?

Sadly Kanyon is gone, but the Google thing really shows people did care and know him. I think a lot of his depression came from the fact he's always been so underappreciated as a talent. I took a look at some of his montages on Youtube, and he really was quite good at coming up with offensive stuff. Really a shame he never was able to go further than he did, but at least with this, it proves he was remembered and loved by the wrestling community.

On a TNA note... yeah, what massive fail. God they need to be out of business soon, seriously. If WWE is wise they'll sign Daniels immediately.

Swagger wins the title just like that? Now I realize Bishoff does have the right to talk shit about Jericho not being a main-eventer especially when he can't even be a reign champion.

And TNA messed up bad letting Daniels go. However, I remember I read that neither Hogan or Bishoff saw anything good for Daniels but how can Dixie be so stupid? Next in line: Samoa Joe.

sadly it seems to me that Chris never knew how much he was really appreciated



yeah no doubt



Bischoff is an idiot to talk shit about Jericho. considering it took Jericho like many, to leave WCW and go to WWF to become a star cause like TNA, WCW didn't know shit about how to manage their roster. and Bischoff can't talk about someone being a main-eventer seeing as some of the losers he pushed in WCW to main-event status who shouldn't have gotten that push. besides Jericho's still more of a star than Swagger will ever hope to be

Daniels is of no use to WWE, because he can't stay over for more than three months at a time for the life of him. No matter what he does. Anywhere. Even back in ROH despite being highly respected by the fans they still struggled to maintain interest in him throughout the Prophecy angle and etc. He's not bad at what he does though. And actually, I can't think of many people better than he is at making his opponent look like a million bucks. He's really, really good at bringing out the best in other guys. But that's it. So what do you do with a guy who doesn't really draw but makes everyone around him look good? He was hand picked by the Gods to be a career jobber. Unless he puts the mask back on. Which he should. But that wouldn't fly in WWE these days anyway. I feel sorry for him, because if anyone in the US "deserves" to be successful then it's him, but that's pro wrestling for you.


I don't think Bischoff was wrong when he said what he said about Jericho. Look at the hype for his return, that was nuts. Huge pops. A month later most of the audience didn't give a shit about him. Just like usual. Couple of months later he had no alternative but to turn and change his entire persona because the "Chris Jericho" he had been for about fifteen years was so dead in the water. That's when I realized Bischoff was probably right all along. Jericho's done well for himself as a heel, though. But you know, when you talk about drawing an audience (which is an antiquated notion these days in WWE, really, but even so...) that's not the job of a heel so much. Jericho has really filled a role that any number of other guys could have. He's pretty good at it from a critical point of view, but if WWE dropped him overnight it'd be of no consequence to them.

I ain't hatin' or nuthin', I do loves me sum Jericho, but I think he's lucky to have made it out of the midcard and WWE have probably been very generous to him.

Well that seems like complete insanity to me, Jericho's the best of all time in my opinion. But oh well.

As far as Bischoff being right about Jericho because Jericho lost the belt to Swagger, that doesn't make any sense. Hell Jericho's one of the very few men who have retained the world title at Wrestlemania, that's a pretty big accomplishment. Not to mention everything else he's done.

That;s a shame. Swagger really needed that win over Randy Orton. Would've really helped him out.

Seems pretty right to me. Jericho is the first Undisputed champion, he DID retain his title as you stated, and Bischoff is just a jerk for saying that.

Is it because he didn't go to TNA when he was making a come back or what?

As I understand it, back in the WCW days Bischoff said Jericho could never be a star.



I don't see how WWE has been generous to Jericho.
A guy who can do great promos, have great matches, is a great athlete, has a good look, has experience wrestling all kinds of wrestlers all over the world, is articulate (and therefore a good representative or spokesperson), never gets injured, doesn't take steroids (therefore doesn't get suspended), doesn't smoke pot, doesn't injure people, doesn't stiff opponents, and has the respect of both ''marks'' and ''smart marks''... Are you kidding? What wrestling promotion wouldn't kill for someone like this?

Extremely ridiculous notion.

Bischoff is a jealous man who is just bitter and angry he didn't put his stock in Jericho when he had the chance. He probably still has a feeling of betrayal, since Jericho was probably the beginning of the end for WCW when it came to their stars leaving. It seemed that around that time WCW began to become seriously unglued.

It's not like Jericho didn't get any pops as a face when he returned. He was just thrust in to the title scene a little too abruptly, and plus he lost the match and was put into a program with JBL right afterward. If you really don't believe Jericho not being in WWE would make an impact you're just crazy. He's their biggest heel, he almost always ends the shows and that's a mark of someone that's important. WWE would have never made Jericho main event level if they didn't feel he deserved it and earned it. It wasn't them being generous, it was simply them giving Jericho what he deserved when Bischoff's joke of a company did not.

It wasn't even that long ago when Jericho would get featured on all shows all the time. In fact, that still happens sometimes. In the same week you see Jericho on RAW, NXT and Smackdown!. There was a week where he was also featured on freaking Superstars.


Another bonus lil' Jericho feature I forgot to mention, he's never been known to politic around or refuse to put people over. Hell he's been putting people over his whole career. Just off the top of my head I can remember him putting over Cena, Batista, and Orton before they were huge stars. He also put over Shelton Benjamin even though Shelton remains a low midcard player. A week ago he put over Jack Swagger, another young talent...

I don't think Bischoff has ever said Jericho isn't good at what he does (or if he has then that's news to me), his stance was that Jericho just wasn't the type of guy who would draw and therefore wasn't really main event material. I think that's pretty reasonable, mostly.

Look at it like this. Jericho came in as an unimpressively built short guy who had been stuck in WCW's midcard hell. WWE threw him straight into feuds with guys like the Rock. You think that's not generous? I think it is, I think that's a big gamble to take on a guy who never previously proved his ability to draw whatsoever. After that, he spent about half a dozen years in WWE's midcard hell. If he's such obvious main event material, why? As good as he is at what he does, it's pretty clear that WWE's audience didn't think he belonged alongside the Hogans, Undertakers, Lesnars, and so on. As far as I know he didn't really get pushed into the main event as a threat again until that Cena feud right before he took time off. And the matches were decent, but the heat he received from town to town varied a lot. And ironically most of the angle was just carried by Cena's feud with Bischoff. He'd been so dead in the water for so long as a midcard babyface that the audience (most of whom - I'm speculating - had probably only recently become fans) were lukewarm towards him at any given moment he wasn't about to cause Cena to tap out.

So, on his return, this unimpressively built, short, lukewarm babyface who'd spend most of his career toiling in the midcard comes back after couple of years off, and WWE throw him straight into a title feud with their biggest star. You don't think that's generous? I think that's so generous it barely makes any financial sense. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that probably the reason he's suddenly found relevancy as a main event heel is that he occupies the heel role that Triple H (and to a lesser degree JBL) used to fill. If Triple H turns heel... Jericho is getting bumped down the ladder again. He could work as a babyface again I guess, but I'd be surprised if he could maintain his heat for more than a few weeks before the audience got bored with him again.

I think Bischoff was probably a little unfair in that he personally wouldn't even have given Jericho a chance to begin with, but I don't think he was entirely wrong in saying that Jericho wasn't main event material. The history of his career kind of supports that, if anything. The fact remains that he had to drastically make himself over in a way Bischoff couldn't even imagine just to prove Bischoff wrong. At the least, I think it's fair to say that Bischoff was mostly right about the Chris Jericho that we knew him as at the time.

thank you!
100% agree.


jericho was on twitter bitchin about pope (and others) using the "codebreaker" move, like he invited it or something. i came up with that move whithout ever having seen it (tho im sure someones prolly ad te idea b4) for my mk mugen game in 2007 long b4 he ever started using it. i remember seeing him on tv during his "comeback" and he used it for the first time and i was like, wtf he stole scorpions move lol.

does anyone think Swagger is 'over'? i for one think he could improve himself in that area. he's hardly as 'over' as he should be.

i posted this on another forum, just like your guys' thoughts:


any way, i see Swagger going one of two ways, either:

a) he holds onto the title past Extreme Rules, and gets to establish himself as a title holder and get more over, thus WWE says to it's nay-sayers "look yeah we do push younger talent, stf already!" or

b) he drops the title to either Edge or Jericho at Extreme Rules, killing any momentum, thus becoming a footnote in WWE, thus proving the nay-sayers right that WWE don't always push younger talant

Just need to rant for a sec

The WWE needs to make the Intercontinental Title mean something again. What is it right now? Worth less than shit. Drew Macdonalds is holding it right now and he's not doing anything with it. See, this is how the WWE needs to get the midcard superstars over. Make the IC title mean something.

Look at all the midcard superstars that are doing nothing right now. Bourne, Henry, MVP, Ziggler, Christian, Kofi, Morrison, R Truth, Carlito, Hardy, Shelton, and some others. If they actually got these guys involved in a decent fued for one of the midcard titles, they would be more credible and be able to advance up in the cards.

Look at Sheamus and Swagger. They are not over at all and that's because they have a total of one title reign before they got their world titles. Swagger's ECW title, that's it. Get the midcard involved in some decent fueds over the midcard titles. That;s how you get them over, and that's how you make them more credible for a world title reign.

Unfortunately Carlito isn't a midcarder anymore.

LOVED the hell out of NXT. I can't believe Michael Tarver can suck so much at even carrying a fucking keg.

As for the whole midcard title discussion, I would prefer it if there was only one World title and have the U.S. and IC titles mean something for a change.

yes

new tna show this monday...


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TNA needs to disappear now.

all i can say is holy shit wtf was Jim Cornette on when he did this? it's too long to post in it's entirety, so here's the link: http://www.twnpnews.com/messages/27473.php

New TNA champ
Sam Joe is back
WWE is still lame
Randy orton and jericho r the only ones worth watching
im bored
meeting kim kardashian in 3 hours

peace out