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07/06/2004 09:55 PM (UTC)
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* Well as much as I love Benoit, I think HHH is going to get the title back this time, but he might lose it back to Benoit at Summerslam.
* I think Eugene and Ric Flair will obviously win the tag team titles.
* Really not sure about Edge vs. Orton... I hope Edge wins though.
* I'm sure Jericho will beat Batista.
* Kane will probably beat Matt Hardy, but for the sake of good guys winning, maybe Hardy will pull off some bullshit because of this baby story and win somehow.


By the way, Mark Jindrak is currently undefeated on Velocity (I think, here in Portugal we're a few weeks behind you guys, and he's undefeated so far). But he's only faced Spike Dudley, Billy Kidman, Shannon Moore, and Paul London, all cruiserweights. He's almost beaten all the Smackdown! cruiserweights. The only ones left are Nunzio, Rey Mysterio, Akio (if he counts), Funaki, Chavo Guerrero, and Jamie Noble. I hope Noble puts an end to Mark Jindrak's victories soon.
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07/07/2004 12:41 AM (UTC)
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I think it was kind of stupid of the WWE to brake up the Jindrak/Cade team, draft Jindrak to SmackDown!, give him a new manager and a new gimick and than just let him rot on Velocity. Why go to all that trouble building him up like that and just keep him on Velocity which no one really watches. Doesn't make much sence to me. If pushed right, he could of been a decent US Title contender.
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07/07/2004 01:27 AM (UTC)
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olympic_Hero Wrote:
I think it was kind of stupid of the WWE to brake up the Jindrak/Cade team, draft Jindrak to SmackDown!, give him a new manager and a new gimick and than just let him rot on Velocity. Why go to all that trouble building him up like that and just keep him on Velocity which no one really watches. Doesn't make much sence to me. If pushed right, he could of been a decent US Title contender.


No big loss for Raw. I didn't like and still don't like either of them.

Zentile, I think you guys are a little behind. Jindrak has been beaten, I believe by Kidman or someone, can't remember. That's how unimportant it is!!grin

I agree with the ones who say Matt Morgan has potential, but the guy was still a little to green in the ring, so the WWE sent him back to OVW in the hopes he'll learn the trade more, then will eventually be brought back up to the active roster. BTW, for those who might not know, OVW is WWE's training promotion for new stars.

Drfatality, what you say about RVD may be true, but where else would he go? He's to good for TNA and ROH. He could go to Japan, but he's been there enough through his career. In time the WWE may see the light and give the man the world title.
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Although Kenzo Suzuki is obviously still very "green" in the ring, he has fit in very well with the other Smackdown superstars and is liked by everyone. His wife is also said to be fitting in well with the others.

The rumored main event for Summer Slam is a three-way with John Bradshaw Layfield defending the WWE Championship against The Undertaker and Eddie Guerrero.

Christian is expected to be out of action until August.

Ultimo Dragon is still expected to return to WWE this fall.
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07/07/2004 01:33 AM (UTC)
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Drfatality, what you say about RVD may be true, but where else would he go?


He could go and start his comic book shop he said he wanted to makesmile

What's ROH?TNA seems like they have more respect for there wrestlers than the WWE has.I can see the passion and motivation the guys on IMPACT has.Then again RVD would be getting screwed over and over he leaves and joins TNA.Especially if he wants to come back to the WWE.Anyone remember the Bret Hart incident?
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07/07/2004 02:12 AM (UTC)
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My predictions for Vengeance

Chris Benoit def. Triple H: I say this because Vince knows that if he has HHH become the champ again, there's gonna be a fan revolt. No one wants to see HHH win, Evolution needs to lose this time around.
Edge def. Orton: This better happen, WWE needs to end Orton's push. It's gotten really annoying and he needs to move onto other things (i.e. Evolution breakup).
La Resistance def. Flair and Eugene: For the first and only time in my life, I will be rooting for the frenchies this time. I would hang myself before I see a 60 year old man and a mentally challenged guy become champs.
Kane destroys Matt: There is no way, in heaven or hell, Matt could beat Kane. He could only beat him if Kane was tied to an iron stake and Matt had a shotgun.
Jericho def. Batista: Jericho needs a push, plain and simple. If he can beat Tomko, he can beat Batista, simple as that.

All in all, bad day for Evolution. Then next RAW they argue. 2nd RAW they refuse to speak. 3rd RAW they break up. 4th RAW it is announced that at Summerslam, they will fight each other in an elimination fatal 4 way. Evolution gone, everyone's happy.
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07/07/2004 05:28 AM (UTC)
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Dude, Vince loves HHH, so he WANTS to give it to H, plus, HHH has Creative Control! Second Eugene and Flair are on of the most talented wrestrlers on the RAW Roster, so dude, just hush up player
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07/07/2004 05:46 AM (UTC)
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Holy Shit! SmackDown! Spoilers..

























































































Billy Kidman and Paul London are NEW WWE Tag Team Champions

John Cena have been striped from the US title from GM Kurt Angle

theres a 6-man Cruiserweight Match on the show

and Jindrak finally makes it on SmackDown! to wrestle RVD

This sounds like a kick ass SmackDown! to me. Kidman and London are a damn good Tag team and deserves to hold the tag straps.
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07/07/2004 06:19 AM (UTC)
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TheMkGeek Wrote:
jade2004 Wrote:

Kane over Hardy: I agree here to, but I don't think Lita will determine who will win, but I think she may side with whoever the winner will be. Showing her true colors. Heel turn anyone???


not likely, that would be a lot like christian, jericho, trish storyline before, wouldn't it? thats a recent storyline... so i doubt it. maybe matt will turn heel and kane will turn face? hahaha... still dobut it
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07/07/2004 07:39 AM (UTC)
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Chris Benoit def. Triple H: I say this because
they're not gonna time it together with Guerrero's title loss.
Orton def. Edge: I just don't like the Edge character. He's always so over. And to me that's more annoying than a hundred Orton rants.
La Resistance def. Flair and Eugene: Flair leaves Eugene by himself.
Matt def. Kane: I wanna see Hardy win then give Lita a Twist of Fate. Seriously what woman in her right mind would go and bang someone who's beating her boyfriend an stalking her. I seriously think that this was a five minute scribble during a writer's shit-break.
Jericho def. Batista: He already has to many enemies beating his ass. I miss heel Jericho.

Thank god they took the titles from the Dudleys. They didn't need to win them again in the frst place. They should just break up again and give other teams a chance.

What happened to the tag team scene. It's been basically non existent for years. Not since the days of the TLC matches has there been any reason to watch it.
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07/07/2004 01:59 PM (UTC)
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if the rumour about Kurt Angle being back for Summerslam is true then a bet it'll be a match against Cena.

Here are the reasons behind my predictions

Benoit: Him keeping the title will leave a space open for a kickass match at summerslam. A tripple threat match maybe?

Edge: Orton has had the title for too long. This will also help with the Edge turning heel angle.

La Resistance: They havn't had the title for long enough.

Y2J: Basically...he's better than Batista.

Matt Hardy: Kane needs to lose a match already. I doubt lita will pair up with kane if he wins...too much like the Trish/Y2J/Christian story
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07/07/2004 03:06 PM (UTC)
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jade2004 Wrote:
if the rumour about Kurt Angle being back for Summerslam is true then a bet it'll be a match against Cena.

Here are the reasons behind my predictions

Benoit: Him keeping the title will leave a space open for a kickass match at summerslam. A tripple threat match maybe?

Edge: Orton has had the title for too long. This will also help with the Edge turning heel angle.

La Resistance: They havn't had the title for long enough.

Y2J: Basically...he's better than Batista.

Matt Hardy: Kane needs to lose a match already. I doubt lita will pair up with kane if he wins...too much like the Trish/Y2J/Christian story


Kane needs to lose a match already!? He's lost at every pay-per-view held this year!
He didn't win the Royal Rumble (spooky Undertaker message), he lost at Wrestlemania (Undertaker), he lost at Bad Blood (Benoit)... There is no way Matt Hardy could beat Kane.
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07/07/2004 04:18 PM (UTC)
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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU DONT KNOW HOW FUCKING EXCITED I AM! PAUL LONDON, MY FAVORITE WRESTLER IS NOW TAG TEAM CHAMP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!! AND A 6-MAN TAG TEAM CRUISER MATCH!!!!!!!!!!! AND JINDRAK ON SD! WOW! I GOTTA SEE THE REST


olympic_Hero Wrote:
Holy Shit! SmackDown! Spoilers..

























































































Billy Kidman and Paul London are NEW WWE Tag Team Champions

John Cena have been striped from the US title from GM Kurt Angle

theres a 6-man Cruiserweight Match on the show

and Jindrak finally makes it on SmackDown! to wrestle RVD

This sounds like a kick ass SmackDown! to me. Kidman and London are a damn good Tag team and deserves to hold the tag straps.

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07/07/2004 04:32 PM (UTC)
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Black_Dragon Wrote:
Dude, Vince loves HHH, so he WANTS to give it to H, plus, HHH has Creative Control! Second Eugene and Flair are on of the most talented wrestrlers on the RAW Roster, so dude, just hush up player

Soooo, Vince is gonna give Triple H the title just because he's friends with him. Typical WWE move. And Ric Flair is an old flabby guy that was in his prime 30 years that needs to RETIRE ALREADY!!!!! The guy needs to think of life after wrestling. And Eugene is just a shameless gimmick that RAW used to gain viewers, and I severely doubt he'll be around for Wrestlemania XXI.
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07/07/2004 05:23 PM (UTC)
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I heard that triple h is married to stephanie mcmahon...is this true?
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07/07/2004 05:23 PM (UTC)
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NoObSaIbOt777 Wrote:
... And Eugene is just a shameless gimmick that RAW used to gain viewers, and I severely doubt he'll be around for Wrestlemania XXI.


So true... Eugene sucks... I'd rather see Nick Dinsmore as Doink the Clown than see Eugene wrestle ever again...
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07/07/2004 05:40 PM (UTC)
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Yes
jade2004 Wrote:
I heard that triple h is married to stephanie mcmahon...is this true?


On a side note, if only we still had days like these..


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07/07/2004 05:46 PM (UTC)
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Drfatality Wrote:
TheMkGeek Wrote:
Drfatality, what you say about RVD may be true, but where else would he go?

He could go and start his comic book shop he said he wanted to make

What's ROH? TNA seems like they have more respect for there wrestlers than the WWE has.I can see the passion and motivation the guys on IMPACT has.Then again RVD would be getting screwed over and over he leaves and joins TNA.Especially if he wants to come back to the WWE.Anyone remember the Bret Hart incident?


RVD has his comic book shop, just not set up nationally. Don't compare Bret to RVD.

ROH or Ring Of Honor, is another indie fed that was started at the same time as TNA. Both feds sometimes (though I don't think so much now) trade superstars back and forth, and Vince wouldn't mind getting guys from there as well.

jade2004, yes, Trips is married to Stephanie as of last October, so NoObSaIbOt777 that is why everyone says Vince loves Triple H and why the man practically gives him everything.

To those who are happy with London and Kidman's title victory, I say blah. They ain't been a credible team long enough to get the titles. See that's how lame the tag devision has gotten. I read the spoilers for SD and I just can't say that I'm going to watch. Not until the world title match between JBL and Eddie.

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Confirmed Matches For Thursday’s SmackDown!
The following matches are confirmed for Thursday’s edition of WWE SmackDown!:

Rob Van Dam vs. Mark Jindrak

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The Dudley Boyz vs. Paul London & Billy Kidman

El Gran Luchadore vs. John Bradshaw Layfield

Chavo Guerrero, Jamie Noble, & Akio vs. Spike Dudley, Rey Misterio, & Scotty Too Hotty

John Cena vs. Booker T


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07/07/2004 06:17 PM (UTC)
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TheMkGeek Wrote:
Drfatality Wrote:
Don't compare Bret to RVD.


Yes, cause RVD is cool and Bret is not wink


Smackdown actually looks watchable this week...tho I'm pissed they seem to be dropping the whole dudley/heyman angle...but only time will tell...
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07/07/2004 06:48 PM (UTC)
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TheMkGeek Wrote:
Drfatality Wrote:
TheMkGeek Wrote:
To those who are happy with London and Kidman's title victory, I say blah. They ain't been a credible team long enough to get the titles. See that's how lame the tag devision has gotten. I read the spoilers for SD and I just can't say that I'm going to watch. Not until the world title match between JBL and Eddie.


London and Kidman have been Tag Teaming all year I believe, and they've only appeared on SmackDown! like 3-4 times, These two are great wrestlers. When you see them wrestle the dudleys on SmackDown! on thursday, You might agree that they deserve to be tag champs.
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07/07/2004 06:49 PM (UTC)
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HHH is gonna get the title cuz he is married to Vinces Daughter, AND he has Creativee Control, so the only thing that would stop from HHH making himself champ or Vince making HHH champ, is the movie that HHH is makeing!

And Ric Flair is still a great wrestler, for his Age, he is one of the greatest out there, but compared to HBk, or Y2j, he still is above Average! He is just Great! And Eugene is a GReat Wrestler! The only thing that i bet you dont like is his Gimmick! Dude, you think everybody agrees with you...dude, not Everybody agrees with you, a lot of people differ, and some people agree, just like me vice-versa
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07/07/2004 07:04 PM (UTC)
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Black_Dragon Wrote:
HHH is gonna get the title cuz he is married to Vinces Daughter, AND he has Creativee Control, so the only thing that would stop from HHH making himself champ or Vince making HHH champ, is the movie that HHH is makeing!

And Ric Flair is still a great wrestler, for his Age, he is one of the greatest out there, but compared to HBk, or Y2j, he still is above Average! He is just Great! And Eugene is a GReat Wrestler! The only thing that i bet you dont like is his Gimmick! Dude, you think everybody agrees with you...dude, not Everybody agrees with you, a lot of people differ, and some people agree, just like me vice-versa


Dude, I couldn't disagree more. Trips may be married to Slutt Mcmahon, but I doubt he has any creative control. He likes to think he does, but Vince still has final say on everything. BTW, the movie he was supposed to be making got cancelled. All he'll be doing is some promo work for Blade 3.

Flair should never be aloud to wrestle again period, end of story. He should just limit himself to managing Evolution, and that's it.

olympic_Hero, I still say blah to Kidman/London!
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07/07/2004 07:18 PM (UTC)
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Youre Right Vince does, but do you actually think he listens to the fans? If you do then your crazy, I mean come one, JBL, Everyone hated him, not because he was good heel, but becuase he couldnt wrestle, and the fans pleaded to not give JBL the title, but wait, Vince just gives it to him! And HHH is still working on the movie, they have a Pic of him in the Blade: Trinity movie up there somewhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Secondly Flair is still A Great wrestler fool!!!!!!! I cant believe your saying that !!!! Give me one good reason why he cant wrestle?

And well, yeah Kidman/ London, I agree , I wouldve liked it more if they were in SD! more as a team, but looks like Tag Teams are now just being put togheter by a raffle, but still Paul London is a GREAAT wrestler!


TheMkGeek Wrote:
Black_Dragon Wrote:
HHH is gonna get the title cuz he is married to Vinces Daughter, AND he has Creativee Control, so the only thing that would stop from HHH making himself champ or Vince making HHH champ, is the movie that HHH is makeing!

And Ric Flair is still a great wrestler, for his Age, he is one of the greatest out there, but compared to HBk, or Y2j, he still is above Average! He is just Great! And Eugene is a GReat Wrestler! The only thing that i bet you dont like is his Gimmick! Dude, you think everybody agrees with you...dude, not Everybody agrees with you, a lot of people differ, and some people agree, just like me vice-versa

Dude, I couldn't disagree more. Trips may be married to Slutt Mcmahon, but I doubt he has any creative control. He likes to think he does, but Vince still has final say on everything. BTW, the movie he was supposed to be making got cancelled. All he'll be doing is some promo work for Blade 3.

Flair should never be aloud to wrestle again period, end of story. He should just limit himself to managing Evolution, and that's it.

olympic_Hero, I still say blah to Kidman/London!

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07/07/2004 10:33 PM (UTC)
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Black_Dragon Wrote:
Youre Right Vince does, but do you actually think he listens to the fans? If you do then your crazy, I mean come one, JBL, Everyone hated him, not because he was good heel, but becuase he couldnt wrestle, and the fans pleaded to not give JBL the title, but wait, Vince just gives it to him! And HHH is still working on the movie, they have a Pic of him in the Blade: Trinity movie up there somewhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Secondly Flair is still A Great wrestler fool!!!!!!! I cant believe your saying that !!!! Give me one good reason why he cant wrestle?

And well, yeah Kidman/ London, I agree , I wouldve liked it more if they were in SD! more as a team, but looks like Tag Teams are now just being put togheter by a raffle, but still Paul London is a GREAAT wrestler!


TheMkGeek Wrote:
Black_Dragon Wrote:
HHH is gonna get the title cuz he is married to Vinces Daughter, AND he has Creativee Control, so the only thing that would stop from HHH making himself champ or Vince making HHH champ, is the movie that HHH is makeing!

And Ric Flair is still a great wrestler, for his Age, he is one of the greatest out there, but compared to HBk, or Y2j, he still is above Average! He is just Great! And Eugene is a GReat Wrestler! The only thing that i bet you dont like is his Gimmick! Dude, you think everybody agrees with you...dude, not Everybody agrees with you, a lot of people differ, and some people agree, just like me vice-versa

Dude, I couldn't disagree more. Trips may be married to Slutt Mcmahon, but I doubt he has any creative control. He likes to think he does, but Vince still has final say on everything. BTW, the movie he was supposed to be making got cancelled. All he'll be doing is some promo work for Blade 3.

Flair should never be aloud to wrestle again period, end of story. He should just limit himself to managing Evolution, and that's it.

olympic_Hero, I still say blah to Kidman/London!


It's not that Flair is a bad wrestler, it's that he won't retire yet. He's been in wrestling way too long and he needs to take a managing career. And wtf, Kidman and London??? I've seen them wrestle on Velocity, but champs??? What have the writers been smoking? Odds are Taker is gonna be a factor in that match, cause I'm not gonna swallow the Dudley's getting beat without any help. And there is no chance in hell that Trips is gonna get the title at Vengeance, he's been champ long enough. Let's try having a champ that doesn't have a gimmick for once.
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07/07/2004 10:56 PM (UTC)
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You know Wha Noob, I now Agree

1. You are right , Flair isnt a bad wrestler, but he is a even better Manager, so he should!

2. Kidman and London won cleanly, no help! But yeah, champs, I dont know, but those two are one of the talentest

3. no one like HHH, heres to HHH not winniig at Vengeance




NoObSaIbOt777 Wrote:

Black_Dragon Wrote:
Youre Right Vince does, but do you actually think he listens to the fans? If you do then your crazy, I mean come one, JBL, Everyone hated him, not because he was good heel, but becuase he couldnt wrestle, and the fans pleaded to not give JBL the title, but wait, Vince just gives it to him! And HHH is still working on the movie, they have a Pic of him in the Blade: Trinity movie up there somewhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Secondly Flair is still A Great wrestler fool!!!!!!! I cant believe your saying that !!!! Give me one good reason why he cant wrestle?

And well, yeah Kidman/ London, I agree , I wouldve liked it more if they were in SD! more as a team, but looks like Tag Teams are now just being put togheter by a raffle, but still Paul London is a GREAAT wrestler!


TheMkGeek Wrote:
Black_Dragon Wrote:
HHH is gonna get the title cuz he is married to Vinces Daughter, AND he has Creativee Control, so the only thing that would stop from HHH making himself champ or Vince making HHH champ, is the movie that HHH is makeing!

And Ric Flair is still a great wrestler, for his Age, he is one of the greatest out there, but compared to HBk, or Y2j, he still is above Average! He is just Great! And Eugene is a GReat Wrestler! The only thing that i bet you dont like is his Gimmick! Dude, you think everybody agrees with you...dude, not Everybody agrees with you, a lot of people differ, and some people agree, just like me vice-versa

Dude, I couldn't disagree more. Trips may be married to Slutt Mcmahon, but I doubt he has any creative control. He likes to think he does, but Vince still has final say on everything. BTW, the movie he was supposed to be making got cancelled. All he'll be doing is some promo work for Blade 3.

Flair should never be aloud to wrestle again period, end of story. He should just limit himself to managing Evolution, and that's it.

olympic_Hero, I still say blah to Kidman/London!

It's not that Flair is a bad wrestler, it's that he won't retire yet. He's been in wrestling way too long and he needs to take a managing career. And wtf, Kidman and London??? I've seen them wrestle on Velocity, but champs??? What have the writers been smoking? Odds are Taker is gonna be a factor in that match, cause I'm not gonna swallow the Dudley's getting beat without any help. And there is no chance in hell that Trips is gonna get the title at Vengeance, he's been champ long enough. Let's try having a champ that doesn't have a gimmick for once.

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07/08/2004 12:28 AM (UTC)
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Found this on a site, somehting bout WWE Expanding something over U.K:

In recognition of the passion of UK fans and business partners, World Wrestling Entertainment today said it will extend its brand presence significantly in the United Kingdom over the next year as part of a major global expansion initiative.

Building upon WWE’s successful UK TV and Live Event presence, the WWE brand initiative will introduce UK-based television production, additional live events, promotional programs, licensed product launches, and on-the-ground appearances from the larger-than-life WWE superstars.

Spearheading this initiative, the WWE will produce its two flagship television programs, Monday Night RAW and WWE SmackDown!, from the UK in front of sell-out crowds at the Manchester Evening News Arena in October 2004. This is first time ever that the two shows have been produced outside of North America.

Campaigns involving WWE commercial partners, including promotions, competitions, in-store appearances, school visits and new product launches featuring the WWE Superstars, are already in the planning stage. These are part of the UK-specific branding operation that will see a significant increase in presence for WWE licensees, retailers, promotional and media partners.

“Our fans in the UK are incredible, and their loyalty, combined with the exceptional retail and licensing programs we have in the UK, is a linchpin to our strategy to expand WWE’s global presence,” said Shane McMahon, WWE’s Executive Vice President, Global Media. “Our UK initiative is groundbreaking for us, our business partners, and our fans. It will develop the model we plan to use in other countries as we further implement our global expansion strategy.”

Leading up to the RAW and SmackDown! televised events in October, the WWE Superstars will perform to sold-out crowds in Belfast, Sheffield, Nottingham and London as part of a unique “double header” WWE European tour where UK fans nationwide will be invited to be part of WWE history.

In April 2005, the WWE plans to return to the UK to produce again Monday Night RAW and WWE SmackDown!, triggering a second phase of promotions, sweepstakes and Superstar appearances

In support of this initiative, WWE is undertaking a UK-specific ad campaign that will result in greater awareness for the brand. Licensees, retailers, promotional and media partners will all focus their WWE efforts around the same brand message and as a result of these synergies, there will be a significant increase in activities developed for their consumers.
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