The No Way Out poster looks pretty cool, so I guess Hardy will be in the Elimination Chamber.

And like I said, by the Royal Rumble, Batista wont have the belt, he is in the poster. Just like everyone knew of Jericho, everyone will know Batista will be challenger... because that is what he does best, challenge... he is intensive, but inconsistent with that, while Edge comes out with the same pop or heat every night. If you feel different, go ahead and correct me, but bring me proof from at least youtube.

Anyone else think Jeff Hardy is like the new version of Shawn Michaels?

No, Jeff Hardy talks too little.

No Jeff Hardy can't talk or cut an interview.

Or wrestle. Or do anything except fall off stuff.

QFT.

What the hell does QFT mean.

Quoted For Truth.

Ahhh thanks MINION

Jeff Hardy and HBK? Please, show some respect for the Showstopper.

Shawn Micheals became one of the greatest stars in the history of pro wrestling by being a fantastic wrestler, a fantastic promo, a fantastic personality and taking bumps.

All Jeff Hardy can do is crappy high flying ''moves'' for his comebacks, and half of those moves are always botched anyway. I don't mean to take anything away from the man, because he IS hugely over and a draw. But he's no Shawn Michaels.

I'm sorry, but i LOVE Jeff Hardy....he has to be one of the biggest draws RAW has right now...And as for his Wrestling capability, High Flying moves (In my own not-so-humble but correct oppinion) are more exciting than watching two guys do nothing but suplexes and holds (Case in point, Benoits match agains Lashly the night he was drafted to ECW, there were like 3 exciting moves in the entire match...I even think the time keeper was snoring) Boatches or not, if it entertains the crowd, go for it...

Although i do agree with Zent...Hardy is no HBK

I'm sure Jeff Hardy would be flattered and somewhat offended by that comparison. Offended, cause there's nobody who can be another HBK, there is only one, and cause I'm sure he wants to be compared to nobody, and wants to be his own man. But at the same time, as I said, he could be flattered as well.

You know what really upsets me is that randy orton and edge can never really win fairly.They always have to ask for special request cause they know that can not beat someone else when the other person is playing to their fullest.And I know its all fake but still.

That's why they're heels and you boo them. Nobody in the WWE wants people to be cheering for Orton and Edge, so how could they get clean wins? If WWE booked Edge to beat Batista cleanly with no help, it would damage Batista as a face and it would damage Edge as a heel.

And that's the answer to your question which was basically ''how come top heels always need to cheat to win?''.

As for the Hardy thing, there's nothing wrong with high flying moves, but I'd appreciate it if they were done correctly. e.g.: Paul London, Carlito, Rey Mysterio...

Jeff Hardy is a botching machine, I'm not sure I've ever seen him hit that spinning mule kick or whatever it is, and look good doing it. He always looks like a retard and the kick barely touches the opponent, who sells it anyway since it's for the comeback and ends up looking like an idiot aswell.

Still, Hardy has managed to remain incredibly over. Sadly. It just shows what kind of crowd the WWE crowd is, since they'd rather watch the likes of Jeff Hardy and Sabu jump around like a couple of morons, than actual wrestling moves done by guys like Jamie Noble and Charlie Haas, or decent high flying like Jimmy Yang or Paul London.

The reason Hardy draws more than those with more talent(well, he was a lot better with his brother when he first showed up) is that he always look barely making it out... which is true since he barely botching. Now, people like Paul London make it seem too easy to make them great faces.... in WWE standarts.

Any way.......

Does anyone know the name of the new ECW title theme? I've been searching all over

...I like the heels more than i like the Faces to be honest...there storylines are just so much better. And the fact that they cheat to win just make me like them more, Because most of the Faces are Pricks (imo of corse)...Batista, Lashly, Cena, and a bunch of others just aren't as fun to watch as Edge, Randy Orton, Mr. Kennedy, and people like that

As for your points of Jeff Hardy, not to be a dick, but you seem to be the only one that really cares that he's Boatching moves. Personally, i don't, and i don't personally know who does...Jeff Hard sells...I wouldn't be suprised if they threw the strap on him (even though i think that would be a BAD idea).

But, look what impact he had in TNA the little time he was there...I watched it more...Lots of people watched it more than they do now...They had slightly higher Moral, and he had some pretty awesome matches...And he is still doing that now...Look how many people bought the new Smackdown Vs. Raw game pretty much ONLY to play as Jeff hardy. He is a huge star, and, weather we like it or not, he will continue to be a big star until he has to retire or he gets fired for no reason again

I wasn't the only person here who mentioned how he's a botching machine, and my wrestling friends and colleagues also see Jeff as a walking botchamania, so I'm fairly sure I'm not the only one who cares.
You on the other hand, are in fact the only person in this thread to claim that there were people who bought the latest WWE game just to play as Jeff Hardy, which is a little bit harder to believe.

I KNOW he had impact in TNA. I think I made it pretty clear that I didn't mean that Jeff Hardy isn't a star, because he is one, and like I said, he is massively over.
And last time he was fired it wasn't for no reason, it was because Jeff Hardy was at the time immature and irresponsible, missing events and getting late (just like he was in TNA) all the time.


So just to make things clear, YES Jeff Hardy is a huge star, and a draw, and deserving of his push as a big time Intercontinental Champion and number one contender. Everyone should respect him as a star, just as much as they should respect the Ultimate Warrior, who was even more over than Jeff.

But as a wrestler? No.

But wrestlers aren't supposed to leap around the ring like spiderman. And i personally think the high flyers are more boring than the traditional ones.

Everything has a time and place in pro wrestling. I'm a much bigger fan of holds and suplexes (which is really what the word ''wrestling'' is all about), but I do love high flying and it has a time and place.

I Just find holds boring when thats all that happenes. Like I said a few posts ago, Lashly and Benoits match at the last draft. There were like 3 exciting moves. Sometimes, just rolling around isn't enough to make it interesting (IMO of corse). There are some people that do it right, however. Bret Hart, Chris Benoit, Dean Malinko (Sorry if i spelled that wrong), and (On some ocasions) Jericho.




I agree...And, BTW, i also love Warrior, i don't care how bad of a wrestler he was, his Charisma was over the top, and you could FEEL the anger radiating from him...

I remember watching the Hogan vs Warrior mania match for the very first time... It was like a year ago, and even though I knew both guys were terrible wrestlers and technically the match is indeed bad, I was excited because they were both so charismatic and created a truly compelling atmosphere.

Ok, I'm gonna put in my two cents as far as Jeff Hardy is concerned since everyone else is. lol

Jeff Hardy is, imo, an awesome wrestler. Yes, he botches moves sometimes. Everyone has. Some more than others, but no matter how hard anyone tries, they're not going to be perfect. Case in point. Jeff Hardy. He's been on and off with the WWE for over a decade now. He's not picture-perfect, and he's not a submission machine like Malenko, Benoit, of some of the other technical guys. But he is exciting to watch. All of the high spots he can hit astounds me. Granted, he sometimes crashes and burns, and he'll screw the move up sometimes, but like Zentile said, he is probably one of WWE's highest draws, and a lot of people mark out for him, myself included.

So, if Hardy can learn a few more technical moves, I think he'll be able to satisfy everyone, even with the occasional botch. lol