Yea I hate that frizzy hair fuck. If he beats Shelton for the belt here, I'm going to be highly pissed off. I wonder if Raw will let him walk on water like he did over on Smackdown.

Looks like Benjamin got hurt, he could barely climb up to the top rope..

MOTHERFUCKER........seriously, who the fuck does Carlito got pictures of? Why does this dude get to win every match?? Took the belt off Cena in his first match, now comes to Raw and takes Sheltons belt...wtf I really hate this prick.

Well, I might stand corrected. He's the new IC champion, he might get a deserving push. Of course we're talking about the WWE being smart with it, that's the same as asking a Magic 8 Ball if you picked the winning lottery numbers.

wow...another huge low blow to Matt Hardy....actually playing his music and laughing....


ps - Kane comin up thru the ring fucking owned.

YES! Carlito!!!



Kane, was so sweet aswell! I was like wtf? when I first saw his head sticking out.

At least Shelton can move on to bigger and better things now. That guy is the future of WWE... Maybe the title was taken from him so he can be drafted to Smackdown?



He's just tryin' to be cool like Sting.

Okay,time to blow off some steam.I am EXTREMELY pissed off at the WWE right now.

I was pretty excited for raw for once,looking forward to it alot,in my opinion the wrestling world was awesome...then I watched raw.

They completely destroyed Hassan.Building him up for months being 'undefeated',so he gets a WWE title shot.Im thinking alright,he wont win but it should be good.Nope,he loses in a 5 minute squash match. What the hell is up with that?

Edge and Lita's wedding...wow.I never wouldve expected this.Playing Matt's music as the preacher asked if anyone objected was wrong.This guy has had his life pretty much torn apart.Hell he's doing fine now,but this was just horrible.A huge slap in the face to Matt,and every single WWE viewer out there.

Kurt Angle vs Batista.This was turning out to be a pretty good match.I was expecting interference,but not so soon.Minutes in Trips and Flair come down and get Angle dq'ed.What the fuck?Do it when the ref is down,or at least later in this match.

Diva Search...I dont think I need to say any more.


I pretty much hated this raw.I almost wanted to say fuck WWE by the end of the night.But there were a couple things I really liked.

Carlito coming to raw and winning the I.C. title,and the interview with Maria was pretty funny too.

Jericho and Christian beating up Cena.

And Victoria of course. She brought a huge smile to my face after the whole wedding thing.I love having the psycho back.

Also,Vengeance is looking good.

HBK vs Angle II will be one word,amazing.

Jericho vs Christian vs Cena will be a great match,with hopefully Christian or Y2J coming out champ.

Triple H vs Batista hell in a cell,awesome.Cant go wrong with the cell.

Carlito vs Shelton Benjamin.Was a good match on raw,should be a good or better match at Vengeance.

Edge vs Kane,its got the story.Kane 'is back'.I doubt that for some reason, but still should be pretty good.

Christy Hemme vs Victoria....kick her ass Vic!


TNA getting a TV deal with spike will be awesome.If it falls through im gonna die lol.

*looks at TNA being on fire* *looks at WWE spitting smoke*

Deserving push?!?

Please ask me this question; Why does he deserve a push?

He doesn't do ANYTHING beside his damn, boring show segment !!!! He only fought about 9 -12 matches since being there, maybe less!!! He doesn't even have a finishing move. There are other wrestler that deserve that belt and also a push more than Carlito!!


i lost all respect for lita, but DAMN she look good in that wedding dress!!! Playing Matt Hardy's Music was very Disrepectful!


Last tine I post i guartee that Christian was going to win the triple Treat match. Well i sorry, I'm going to flip flop and say Chris Jericho is going to win. There's no way there going to have two talk show segments at Raw, and since Carlito is at Raw, That pretty much means that Jericho going to win the belt and get drafted to Smackdown!!!!

Here in Honduras, we don't get Spike TV, but we do get UPN. Needless to say, I am EXTREMELY PISSED at the way SmackDown! has been royally fucked over with the draft. First they take away Cena. He wasn't my personal fave, but he was the show's champ and their most popular wrestler. Then they take away Angle, their best worker and a guy who's awesome on the mic. And now Carlito, the best new talent they've found in quite some time (mic-wise, 'cause he's a bad wrestler). Bullshit.

What have "we" gotten in return? Benoit, the best pure WRESTLER (but boring on the mic) on RAW and Orton, a guy that turned out to be too green to be the champ and so-so on the mic. I'm looking foward to see how they "make it up to us" when I read the spoilers later tonight.

I was never really a big Matt Hardy fan but wow... that was a low blow playing his music like that. I wish they would have let him come out as a surprise and let him talk crap to the both of them. I mean the guy lost his girlriend and his job and then they throw it all in his face with this storyline...fucking disgusting.

Thing is they really can't bring back Matt if you think about it.He wouldn't just talk crap to Edge and Lita,he would end up beating the living hell out of Edge.


Just got tickets to smackdown as pissed off as I am at WWE I dont care cause live events rule lol.Its always so intense when im going to buy tickets.Got Section 118,Row 1.Best that I could have possibly gotten because the floor was reserved I guess.Heres an example of where my seats are.



Friday should hurry up and get here already.

wow that's sooooooo cool!!!
and I think that's a very good section you've got...................

Carlito is one of the worst wrestlers in the WWE right now. I haven't seen much of his in ring work , but what I've seen is a terrible wrestler who acts like a wrestling fan trying to get into a ring without training. I don't know how he got so damn over.... but really I think it's a big slap in the face to Benjamin to have him drop the belt like that. If Shelton had to drop the belt, it should've been been with a feud with Charlie Haas, that would've kicked ass.

Who do you think Smackdown's gonna get in the draft?

Nikodemus , love your sig!!!!!!


Shelton Belongs on the World or WWE champion division now!!!! I hope he goes to Smackdown!!

Carlito = cuban screech.

Has Malena ever considered:


personal.iddeo.es/mmoreira/images/braces/lisa_simpsons2.jpg ?


To those who haven't figured it out by now, the next time you see her on SM!, pay close attention.

Having more fun with DOR lol.Trying to do a VanTerminator today,just to learn its not possible. At least not from corner to corner,you can do it from a ladder.What you have to do for it is this...

Switch one of RVD's diving turnbuckle moves to a normal senton.Set up a ladder in the middle of the ring.Set the person up in a corner,and hit them so they are sitting now.Jump off,and bam you just kicked their ass.

The move I use for my guy is a flipping VanTerminator a perfect one too,corner to corner.I use Jeff Hardys swanton bomb for my guy.Set your opponent up in a corner,and hit them (I use multiple shoulder blocks) so they are sitting in the corner.Go to the other side of the ring,and climb the turnbuckle.Jump off and watch.Its awesome.

And if you want it to be even better,stick a trash can in the corner THEN throw the guy in there.He will be sitting in the turnbuckle with a trash can at his back.Jump off with the swanton and you end up drop kicking them straight into the trash can.

Does anyone here even own DOR or am I talking to myself? lol,thought I would share anyway.

WHAT!!!!!!! SWEEPS!!!!!! THAT RUMOR BETTER LIE!!!!!! I SWEAR SHE BETTER STAY ON RAW BECAUSE THEN SHE'LL BE STUCK WITH THE PATHETIC WEAK SCRUBS!!!!!!!

It actually turned out to be



I like him, but I prefer Carlito.

Oh I am so glad!

the undisputed championship is returning... i can predict that cause tonight's smackdown proves that next week that cena, jherico, christian, hhh, or batista is crossing cause teddy is introducing a new belt....

oh man this is the only news they have got for SVR 2 till now:

SmackDown! vs. RAW 2: The Essentials


Bigger and Badder -- Expand the Superstar Roster
It's great to have all the big name wrestlers in the lineup, but after playing as most of these guys for years it's a lot more refreshing to have choices beyond the traditional roster. Give us guys like Billy Kidman, Akio, and Kenzo Suzuki so that we can have a legitimate cruiserweight division and a reason to fight for that belt. Throw in Heidenreich, the Bashams, and Orlando Jordan so that we can relive some of Thursday's biggest angles of the last year. And whatever you do, don't forget about recent up and comers like Snitsky, Simon Dean, and Muhammad Hassan. In other words, give us as many recent WWE superstars as humanly possible and if space is an issue, use double-layered DVDs -- believe us, it's worth it.

Information Overload -- Complete Stat Tracking
With so many different things to do in the wrestling world and so many things to keep track of, an automated stat-tracking system is absolutely necessary. Let no small detail go unlooked, unchecked, and unrecorded. With this system any player can see what percentage of time he has completed with every wrestler in the game. It would also be possible to see wins, losses, and overall successes.

But that's just the tip of the iceberg. What are the player's favorite moves, total number of submissions, total number of finishing moves, etc.? What's the shortest match, the longest, and the average length of time for each fight? By giving so much information that players will almost drown in it, anyone can take a glance at the info and get a better idea of what kind of a fighter they are. They can even see what areas they need to focus on to be a batter player. More is most definitely better and if the wrestlers could sneeze, we'd want a sneezing percentage. Give us everything.


Sure the Undertakern gets the proper intro, but what about CAWs?

Say My Name! -- Personalized Announcing
Both Madden and NCAA have been treating us to pre-recorded names. If a name was common enough according to the U.S. Census, then it was recorded by the announcers. After entering the name into the character creator the game would use its own audio file to create a personalized experience. It's a beautiful thing and it should become more of a standard. Starting now!

Rest in Peace -- Casket and Buried Alive Matches
Since the moment the original SmackDown first powered up on our PlayStation Ones, the thought of slamming some hapless soul into a nearby coffin and closing him in forever has been at the top of everyone's dream list. How long has the general public been asking for casket matches anyway? We don't even want to speculate. But regardless of how long we've been waiting, the time is now to finally give it to us.

But how would it work? It's simple -- borrowing the mechanics from the already existing Bra and Panties match, the mode would utilize a similar tug of war system centered on the closing of the lid. Getting your opponent in the casket would be the first hurdle to overcome (use a timed meter not unlike the reversal bar to do this), while shutting him in would be the second part (using the aforementioned tug of war system). Boom! It's an instant match mode that would probably get more play the most of the other existing ones.

And hey, while the team is at it, it wouldn't hurt to throw in Buried Alive matches either. The principal and mechanics here would work essentially the same way as the caskets, with the location and appearance of the trap changing form. There's absolutely no way you wouldn't play it.


Float Like A Butterfly -- Tighter Animations
Something the videogame industry needs to work on is fluidity. Wrestling games in particular seem prone to featuring stiff puppets as opposed to lifelike humans. Now, we're not asking for a lot of instant reaction movements, but we would like some more polished transitions between current move sets.



We'd also like to see the collision detection that initiates and finishes movements significantly tightened. The best way to go about attaining this greater level of overall smoothness would be to combine physics driven collisions and interactions with more animation routines. The result would be arms that properly interlock and a takedown that quickly and smoothly segues into a leg lock without any of those stiff or jerky in-between actions.

Timed Attack -- Skill Over Button Mashing
As gaming in general advances, so should the mechanics of gaming. Fight Night proved that boxing titles needn't rely on brainless button smashing to achieve their goals, so why can't wrestling learn?

Everything from getting up, to grappling, to winning grapples, to countering should feature a greater emphasis on timing, rather than repeated controller shattering. To further focus on this more skill-based game style, the future of WWE should penalize its players when they pound X one hundred and seventeen thousand times in a row by making them miss moves or become otherwise vulnerable.

We imagine the future of wrestling being more about skilled interactions and anticipation. But honestly, we'd be happy if there were a few mini-games that governed actions as simple as getting up off the mat.

Oh So Tired -- Wrestler Exhaustion
Wrestling matches take a lot out of you, so why not reflect that in the gameplay? The longer a match wears on and the more damage that has been done, the more of an effect it should have on your character. Near the beginning of a contest, for example, players should have the ability to do anything they want from their repertoire of moves -- but as the bout wears on they'll slowly lose the ability to pull their more devastating maneuvers.

At first your wrestler should slow down a bit, but eventually it'll take longer for him to recover, get up from his own high-flying attacks, and the power of his strikes would decrease substantially. If he was in too rough a shape, your tired gladiator could find himself falling off the turnbuckles, bleeding more easily when taking strikes, and possibly even losing the use of a limb if it's been damaged enough.

Luckily, an added crowd meter would allow you to come back from the brink of an ass-kicking (kind of like Shadow of Rome does), where solid comebacks, spectacular moves, and effective taunts would give you the ability to do something you normally couldn't do. How awesome would that be?


We loved the fact that you could make your own title last year. But why not defend it online while we're at it?

Better Online -- Ranking Systems, Voice Chat, Titles
Every fighting game needs an online component these days or at least they should have one. That may still be some wishful thinking on our part, but we might as well think big and go all the way. There needs to be an online ranking system that will allow players to show that they are some of the best videogame wrestlers in the world.

To make the experience secure there needs to be some way to make sure that no cheat devices are being used or at least give players a possible way of reporting cheaters so that they can be removed and their victories against other players considered null and void. Then, and only then, will online fighting feel solid and other features such as belts and defending belts can be introduced and mean something.

To add in to the experience, voice chat would be a huge help as well. That way two friends could play each other and taunt each other or just chat for the duration of the fight. Winning is good, but trash-talking the whole time is even better.


The Crowd has its Say -- Destructible arena objects, superstar-specific crowd interactions
The feeling of a WrestleMania is all about interaction. The wrestlers can destroy everything in the immediate area and the crowd can shout at their favorite heroes. If there is something, anything, that can be picked up or jumped onto, then it needs to have the ability to be utterly destroyed. By that same token, if a wrestler has a trademark move or phrase, then the crowd should react accordingly. When Kurt Angle walks down to the ring the crowd should be shouting, "You suck!" at him. When Stone Cold Steve Austin shouts out the crowd better be yelling, "What!?" every damn time. Enough of the stock crowd that just moves up and down and has a generic crowd noise, we want the feeling of the event.



Feel the Burn -- More realistic body damage
Maybe we're spoiled by Fight Night Round 2, but it would be the best if the wrestlers had some more realistic damage being done to them. If someone takes a hard hit, then we want to see some blood on the clothes. The faces should get bruised and cut after repeated bashings. It's cool to see the status icons on the top of the screen show how badly each wrestler is hurt, but to show it in the game's graphics themselves would be the business. It would be even better if the blood stains stayed where the damage was done. Players could then "paint" the mat with their opponent's face.

Tag-backs Allowed -- The ability to counter anything
Having any move that can do damage without any possible way to counter it is something that should be completely banished. It takes the fun and the fairness away from the fight. By putting in a possible counter for every move out there the game becomes more of a skillful fight. Experienced players would be able to throw moves and counter-moves like crazy so that when a powerful move is pulled off and bloodies the opponent there's that feeling of deep satisfaction that wouldn't come from a cheap attack.

Besides, WrestleMania 21 on the Xbox has this feature so why shouldn't we?


Uncle Eric ran the WCW for a long time. Want not use that license in the next SmackDown? Couldn't hurt!

Expanding Your Horizons -- Use Other Organizations
The WWE archive is huge, and SmackDown should learn from EA's example and institute its licenses into its games. The WCW, ECW, and OVW brand names are all owned by the WWE, for example, which opens up a world of possibilities in terms of the career mode, possible story events, arena types, and more.

The Long Haul -- 25-year career mode
One year just isn't enough to feel like an entire career. How about a full-on 25-year experience? This would let players create a character, work him through the low-level fights, become a renowned fighter, and go all the way through retirement. Making horrible movies and acquiring a drug habit would be out of the picture, but at the least this would give the game more of a complete feel and allow players to truly develop a character even further.

To start out with the first challenge would be the Tough Enough competition. After that the wrestler would move into the OVW and compete with the crusty older wrestlers as well as other young up-and-comers. The next steps would be to graduate to Velocity and Heat before getting into Smackdown!, RAW, and PPVs.

Along the way the wrestlers would be able to develop relationships with the other wrestlers in the game that would have lasting effects. There could be alliances, rivalries, and feuds that would help to determine what the matches would be. This would complete the character truly becoming a part of the WWE world and help to take a step away from something that's "just a game" and become something immersive. Oh and for crying out loud, give us two-player seasons again!


That Old Bum Knee -- Career Injuries
It's one thing to have injuries impact a match in progress, but what if sustained damage actually carried over through the entire career of a wrestler...? What if an excess of cuts scarred a pretty face and altered crowd perception? How about if the more sustained damage there is, the more worn and feeble a wrestler becomes as the years go by?



If the old knee gets bent out of shape match after match after match, then it should fail quickly late in the career. And, what if 20 years into it all a wrestler's right arm turns useless and his limp from that ridiculous chair bashing he took two years ago causes his entrance to be a little sluggish? What if all that helped to determine what matches he was and was not awarded? Taking better care of your wrestler would then be a priority. Now that's character development, baby. And besides, cuts add character, so why ditch 'em?

Hometown Heroes -- Real Venues
Last time we checked, wrestling didn't take place in some random Hollywood backlot, so where are our real stadiums? We need crowds and hometown favorites. We need the untamed wildness of Mile High versus the downtown glitz of Staples. Where are the Universal Amphitheatres, Rod Laver Arenas, Allstate Arenas, Pontiac Silverdomes, Madison Square Gardens, Cow Palaces and Nassau Coliseums of the world? We need those and more.

If the universe were perfect, specific venues would even have an effect on wrestler performance as well as entrance routines. Since it is not perfect, maybe THQ could plaster the sides of arenas with advertisements to offset costs.

Fighting Out Back -- Backstage Areas
One big backstage area is simply not enough. Here Comes the Pain offered five or six different areas to choose from, but in the future we need boiler rooms, dressing rooms, hallways, parking lots, bathrooms, green room / lobby areas, shipping and loading docks, city streets, technical booths, and just about everything else that makes a real place a real place.

More important than all of those areas is how they could conceivably be tied together seamlessly and even present real gameplay innovations like choking a man with some electrical cord, dropping a wrecked car onto a wrestler, or stuffing the Macho Man into a port-a-potty and rolling the whole thing down a street.

In addition to a large amount of useable objects (read: weapons), every room could contain specific points of interest. Like The Punisher, the use of each point of interest could play a mini-game that, if properly completed, could result in a spectacular animation routine. Showdown: Legends of Wrestling did it, why not SmackDown?

The Pen Is Mightier -- General Management
Brawling is one thing, but for those of us on the Vince McMahon trip, where's our arena management? In the years to come it'd be great to finally sit behind the desk of greatness and wield the pen of ultimate power -- it'd be great to set t-shirt prices and establish a traveling routine!

There's so much going on behind the scenes of wrestling that it seems almost shameful to omit such a wealth of worthy gameplay from the ever-evolving genre, especially when other sports titles are integrating more advanced managerial features with each passing year.

We imagine dealing with some of the more eccentric personalities of the wrestlers by balancing headliners with no names, turning heels into faces, making stars out of scrubs, and even telling a 50-year-old has-been that enough is enough. After that, we could work on traveling from city to city making sure all of the venue details are set. We could then book TV time, set up our own events based on current audience desires, and eventually move into some merchandising. If you want to get crazy, players could actually be encouraged to start spin-off themed wrestling organizations from scratch.

Your Money's Worth -- Five Matches Per Card
Even though we can create our own events with up to eight matches per card, our extended career mode should feature the traditional, realistic collection of five matches per card, which would of course allow us to play...five matches! Five instead of three. Seems like no big deal, you know?

Flashback Fever -- Relive WrestleManias
With Acclaim's Legends of Wrestling franchise long since dead, it leaves the rights to dozens of grappling greats ripe for the picking. THQ should use this fact to its advantage by allowing players the opportunity to relive some of the greatest WrestleMania matches of all time. Who can forget Steamboat vs. Savage and Hogan vs. Andre at WrestleMania III? Or the Ultimate Warrior's stunning victory over the Hulkster at WrestleMania VI? The possibilities here are endless, and the replay value would be too if this was included.

Comeback Kids -- Legend Careers
Speaking of legends, it would be great if there was a way to use them in career mode and even better if it was specific to their status. Imagine coming back as Bret "The Hitman" Hart as a surprise guest at the latest Royal Rumble as you fight your way back to the top of the ladder. Old rivalries (Stone Cold or Shawn Michaels anyone?) could pick right up where they left off, and with so few legends available in comparison to the regular superstars it would be easy to customize this so that it matched the wrestlers to a tee.

Shiny and New -- Enhanced Creation Features
We don't know about you, but the time for additional character creation features is long past due. Not only would it be great to expand on the weight detection system by instituting realistic body types (no more 7 foot, 400 lbs luchadores please) in addition to the aforementioned aging option, but it would also be fantastic if you could customize your entrance animations and lighting effects just like RAW used to do. This presentational flexibility would allow players to create literally anyone they'd want and would make each wrestler a lot more unique too.

SmackDown! vs. RAW 2 could also benefit from even more original music selections, generic Titan Tron intros, and realistic clothing effects instead of the painted on look of the current competitors. Just look at something like Def Jam: Vendetta as proof of the possibilities and apply that to the WWE. The potential here is amazing.


So there you have it. Twenty one essential includes that we'd like to see in the next iteration of SmackDown! vs. RAW. Will they ever happen? We can't say just yet, but it doesn't hurt to dream (or to beg, in this case) now does it? Unfortunately we'll have to wait a couple more months before we know what the new version of the game will bring for sure, but in the meantime we'd love to hear what you think of these ideas and what you'd like to see yourself. We'll be back with more on SmackDown! vs. RAW 2 (or whatever it ends up being called) as soon as the info breaks.

A lot of that sounds good... but I don't know about it getting implemented. THQ never seems to improve the Smackdown games by that much with each release. If you look at Smackdown vs RAW and Smackdown: Here comes the pain you don't really see that much improvement. The graphics are a little better and they managed to fix up the weight detection system a bit...but not all that much. The roster on Smackdown vs RAW was kinda crappy, the create-a-character options were worse then in Here Comes the Pain, the voice over although kinda neat was poorly done. Also the career mode seemed crappier to me as well. I do hope that they improve the career mode so that it lasts more then 1 year. I've always been anoyed by how short it is...

From what I've seen with videos of DOR2, WWE SvR2 better be as good or better than graphically. Man Carlito and Hassan look great in DOR2, and they should look that great for SvR2, conisdering PS2 is the better system. Use the graphics of WM21 and DOR2 for SvR2 and make a better story line similar to WM21/DOR1&2 and update the roster, and that is how you make a good wrestling game for PS2.

I can't wait to see the first info on a wrestling game for X-Box 360 and PS3.

Can't wait for Veneance tommorow, should be not to bad a show.

Predictions:

1)World Title match: Batista, he deserves a long reign and Triple H needs to be knocked down a few pegs in the pecking order, and I can't think of a better way then for him to be beaten in his "specialty" match, HIC

2)WWE Title match: I want Cena to win, but I think it'll be Jericho.

3)Intercontinental Championship:
Carlito Caribbean Cool vs. Shelton Benjamin: CC, I don't like Benjamin, but I don't like CC, but I like him more than Benjamin!

4)Shawn Michaels vs. Kurt Angle: Shawn, hardly ever does a superstar who won the first match, win the rematch

5)Edge, with Lita, vs. Kane: Kane, can't wait to see him beat Edge. WWE should make Edge put the "Money in the bank" briefcase up for grabs!

6)Victoria vs. Christy Hemme: Honestly, does anyone give two pieces of crap about this match???