I honestly dont know how SD stays on the air i mean its beyond bad.

Okay I finally realized I will be able to watch impact once TNA gets a new tv deal lol,either with WGN,or spike (highly doubt it).Im excited either way,downloading it on the computer gets old fast.

Raw...Kane crying?Thats the thing that got me,the big red machine crying...just doesnt seem right.I liked when he started laughing mid cry but then he went back.Then when he was yelling at the pain and trying to wipe it off himself.....lmao.Kane is still a good actor though.I thought it would of been cool if Kane said a line from the song New Pain by Static X,"You wanted to kill me and now this makes this all ugly.....it becomes part of me...turning into this new pain..." and then just continue to rock back and forth as the promo ends.Im hoping he turns into a monster in the following weeks.

Edge & Lita as a television couple...is it a good business decision is what im thinking.The fans would have eventually calmed down with the whole situation if Vince neglected the chants.But now that he is pretty much shoving it in our faces,no one is going to forget anytime soon.If everyone would have forgot that would have given Matt Hardy alot less momentum when he goes to TNA.But now that we are reminded of it each and every week,do you really think the momentum will die down?

Trips with sledgy = wicked,bottom line.I hate trips sometimes,but whenever he gets that sledgehammer it makes him looks kickass.Even though he barely hits a person.

Vince talking about how he funded ECW for so many years was meh.I loved the segment though,even if it was pretty shitty at points.

Last but not least.....hell in a cell.Its been obvious for a while thats Trips and Batista were going to have a cell match,mainly because of the poster revealed a while back.Trips has an undefeated cell record right?Been through alot of them,his streak had better end against Batista.

Yeah, I hear ya in regards to doownloading TNA, lol. I've actually got it on Fox, but I'm always out doing something with buddies or what not at that time :-/. I'd rather spend that quality download time for, well, asian porn. Whatever, though.

Don't tell me you actually believe Batista is beating HHH in the HIAC at Vengeance? There's no way that's happening. It's a good title reign for Batista, and Triple H gets the belt back in the Cell.

Unfortunately, that's also what I think is gonna happen.

There's just NO WAY Triple H is stopping his undefeated streak in HIAC, especially for someone like Batista. If he'd lose a HIAC match to anybody, it would be to Micheals. And that didn't happen last year.

He's not actually undefeated, he lost HIAC at Armageddon 2000. Just saying is all.

Yeah I got that feeling too,want Batista to win,have a feeling Trips will.

That the reason way Raw sucks!! I suprise no one mention the ECW rules for the Benoit and tajiri match. That match was horrible,; If this is how the ECW rules are than there's no point watching the ECW PPV!

What sucks about RAW is you can predict the main event quite easily. And that's why Shelton, Benoit, Jericho, HBK and Edge are more entertaining than Triple H: You never know what it's going to be like with them. While the RAW main event... it's Triple H vs. for the world title, if the opponent is REALLY good he gets to win the title, hold it for a while and then give it back to Triple H. It's what's going to happen with Batista and Triple H in the Cell. And then Orton will probably return, feud with Batista (like screwing up a RAW rematch agaisnt Triple H), and Triple H will go up agaisnt Edge, or Kane, or an upper mid carder that gets drafted from smackdown!.

I actually think Jericho has become pretty stale. It's pretty easy to see what's coming miles before it happens.

Lionsault = lands on feet, or hits opponents knees.
Opponent on apron = springboard dropkick.
Walls of Jericho = inside cradle counter.
Running rope attack thingy (with the dance) = interrupted before he hits the opponent.

I like Jericho, but he needs to mix up the outcome of his signature moves a bit more.
Actually hitting the lionsault would be a nice change.

Yeah, I agree. Y2J is boring as hell right now. Meh. SD was actually quite nice, IMO. Kurt is one creepy bitch, lol. He and Rey Rey put on a good show; but they always do, so whatever. I still think kurt is a better face, so I'm hoping he turns sometime soon.

I like the duo of Morgan and Carlito the more I see it. I hope they develope it a little bit, and not just let it hang. Carlitos got GREAT timing and facial expressions. I see a new super star, at least with mic work, coming up. And I just like morgan. Not to many big men get my attention, but he's the juice.

I did'nt realize how close TNA's air period was coming to an end on FSN. Sounds like WGN is almost a go. Matt Hardy should be making appearences with in the beginning weeks, too. So good stuff on the horizon; hope TNA works its shit through and delievers.

I highly doubt that One Night Stand is going to be anything like old school ECW. I hope I'm wrong, but it's going to be WWE tools vs. ECW. People are going to mark out for ECW wrestlers, but the actual wrestling just might be meh. I hope I'm wrong, though.

Oh, and HHH neends to hit the fucking gym again. I understand it's tough to train with-in the wrestling schedule, but damn. Eat a bowl of fruit or some shit.

Is it me, or is the women's division of the WWE becoming more obsolete than ever? Very few female matches as of late, with very few female athletes. They acutally had to run that bit about Trish being injured from the Viscera Splash just to quietly kill off the the women's division, while focusing on their RAW Diva Search. It's quite hard to believe that the WWE sacrificed their true female talents (Gail Kim, Jazz, Jaqueline, Molly, Nidia, etc) just for a few cheap thrills to turn heads. I however, hear that Molly might return perhaps within a year (WWE might call on her to return), for she is taking some time off to focus on family affairs. If this keeps up, I predict that the WWE Women's Title will become a cohesive memory along with the WWE Hardcore & European titles.


What's with all of these wrestlers so suddenly doing Brock Lesnar F-5's for finishers? First, it started with Big Show, then some guy in TNA, & now Matt Morgan's doing it? I know that the move doesn't belong soley to any specific wrestler, but come on now! Noone can do an F-5 like Brock! It would almost be like wrestlers pulling off "Jackhammers" (Goldberg) for finishers out of the blue.

Hmm... well I guess the next Diva's contest is supposed to spice things up in the women's devision. But at this point, there are very few things I'm looking forward to in the WWE.
Sorry if I repeat what has already been stated, but this thread is 187 pages long, and I refuse to read the past 20...
1) The month long draft between Smackdown! and RAW.
2) The eventual return of RVD
3) The debut match of the last Tough Enough winner. (Matt and John have completely sold out as far as I'm concerned.)

I agree What ya'll said about jericho, He is starting to get stale. This Guy was the first Undisputed Champion and now he fighting for the I.C belt. I hope they move him to Smackdown, make him a heel , and fight Cena for the title.

As for the Women's Division, it needs some help BAD!! Has Anyone watch WOW (Women of Wrestling) before? Shouldn't they get some Girls from there?

Raw was ok, and SD was ok! The JBL/Cena promo on SD was gold! But the Carlito's Cabana was just lame.

ECW One Night Stand Details:

-- Lance Storm with Dawn Marie vs Chris Jericho

-- Extreme luchador action: Rey Mysterio vs Psychosis

-- A three way dance:
The insane luchador Super Crazy vs Tajiri with Sinister Minister vs Little Guido

-- Eddie Guerrero vs Chris Benoit

-- Tommy Dreamer and The Sandman vs Bubba & D-Von Dudley

-- ECW One Night Stand will feature special appearances by:
Paul Heyman
The return to PPV of Rob Van Dam with Bill Alfonso
Tazz
Spike Dudley
Al Snow with Head
Sabu
Balls Mahoney
Danny Doring and Roadkill
CW Anderson
Rhyno
Joel Gertner
Axl Rotten
Justin Credible
Kid Kash
Masato Tanaka
Mikey Whipwreck with Sinister Minister
The BWO - Big Stevie Cool, Hollywood Nova, and The Blue Guy (Blue Meanie)

Jericho vs Cena for the title would be great. It would be all about who can make up the most childish insults.

So what you're saying is that you would like to see Y2J traded to SD, or Cena to come to Raw? That would be a good match though. I think Jericho would win in the battle of the insults simply cause he's got more experience in that department. Who will ever foget his tirades against Stephanie "two bit, brutal, skanky, bottom-feeding, trashbag, hoe" McMahon-Levesque?? Funny shit!

Congrats to Undertaker, who's wife Sara, recentlly gave birth to a healthy baby girl! I wish them all the best!

The thing with Jericho is that it's always the same shit. I understand that every character has their gimmick phrases and what not; but how many times can you put the term "ass clown" and "skanky-hoe" as a lead into an insult? Meh.

Just dropping in, a bit belated, to drop word of Goldbergs new show on the History channel - 270 on direcTV - which will be airing at 12:30. I'm on the west coast, but it may be eastern time as well, so bleh. I believe it's a re-run of his show earlier in the day, since it airs sunday nights at 11pm eastern.. So if you missed it, and you mark art for big Bill and cars, then check it

Edit: my bad, tonight it's on at 12 am on 269 on dircTV

Yah I'm annoyed by the WWE when it comes to the diva's. They had a decent womens division last year then they just completely trash it and let go of the women who can wrestle and replace them with useless bitches that have pillow fights every once in a while...lame. I like looking at T & A as much as the next guy but I watch wrestling for just that... wrestling. It seems pretty clear to me that the WWE is more interested in finding more dumb ass girls to walk around doing nothing then wreslters for the womens division.

As for the f-5 thing... I did find that weird that Matt choose that move to do in the Big Show. My only assumption is that he was told to do that move because he would obviously have a lot of trouble pulling off his suplex/driver to the Big Show.

Ok before we all beat up on one of the best pure talents in the WWE, let's look at it from Jericho's side of things.

He was brought in to a huge hype, and very well done. The clock ticking down while he was still in WCW was nice and his debut with the Rock was one of, if not the, best moments in Raw history.

Then he goes on to be the first ever undisputed champion in WWE history.

Then, after he loses the strap, he kind of starts losing momentum. The WWE puts him in some other storylines, and keeps him there, dwindling down each one on the way to right now. So now he's stuck in storyline Hell, plus awhile ago his contract was about to expire before they even renewed it. Granted Jericho speaks his mind on the internet and what not, I can't see why the WWE is holding him down, he's a highly entertaining guy with great ring skills, which is everything a champion needs.

Jericho is everything the Rock and Stone Cold were, and more. He has the tools, they aren't letting him use them properly.

Same thing happened to Benoit recently, look what happened to him when he 'gave HHH the belt back'. The next PPV he was curtain jerking against the French Dudes.

I kinda like the crazy Kurt Angle.Kurt always puts on a good show.I don't really like what their doing to Eddie though.I miss the old Eddie from WCW.

We (or I) aren't beating up on him, just... saying. That's all.
I think he's one of the greatest wrestlers on Raw, right up beside Tajiri and Regal, but much like those two (especially Regal, who, and i'll say this again, should be the number one contender), he hasn't had a chance to show it recently, and as a result he's become quite boring.

His match against Shelton at that last pay-per-view was pretty damn good though.

I know there's been a lot of talk about him being frustrated because WWE won't do anything with his character and such. He's said he'd give up wrestling if his band ever took off, which it's starting to do, so I hope they put the title on him at least one more time before he leaves.

By the way, what was with that poll at wwe.com - "Should Jericho be punished for having a life outside of the WWE?" What the hell?

Okay I fucking loved raw.Victoria FINALLY turning,I dont care if some dont care about the womens division,Vic is one of my favorites in WWE.Now thats shes back heel,hopefully psycho it should be great.I hope to hell she will come out to her own music... 'Yes I've lost my mind...'

Batista beat the living shit out of Daivari and Hassan,damn.But in the process he continued Hassan's undefeated streak.And his new music is good from what I heard.

Y2J's comments at Kane during their interview = wicked.

Edge beating Benoit............................................................meh.You would figure some ex ECW guys would come out and do something.I laughed when the fans started chanting 'Holy Shit!' at a suicide dive.

Christian on raw was gold as usual.

Pole on wwe.com is alittle wierd like most of em.