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01/15/2007 10:12 PM (UTC)
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Reptile was never human.

It was becuase of memory restrictions, and he may have sometimes disguised himself as a human or edenian or outworlder in an attempt to get his opponents guard down during a fight, then pull the mask of and surprise them.

Other than that, I can't find any other reason for reptile to look human.
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01/16/2007 03:40 AM (UTC)
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Vasculio Wrote:
I'm tired of debating about Reptile. You believe what you want and i'll do the same. wink


theres no need to "believe what you want" when the facts are right in his fucking story line.
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01/16/2007 11:29 AM (UTC)
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scorpio Wrote:
Vasculio Wrote:
I'm tired of debating about Reptile. You believe what you want and i'll do the same. wink


theres no need to "believe what you want" when the facts are right in his fucking story line.


I'm sorry that i don't take the Shaolin Monks facts seriously, since i never play it
From what i hear... Shaolins Monks has strayed from actually facts in the MK2 storyline.

You see... you can pass on the Shaolin Monks crap on somebody who has never played MK1, MK2 and MK3.

But i played all these games since the beginning of the franchise. So in my book, Reptile did in deed have a human costume. wink
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01/16/2007 02:42 PM (UTC)
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Vasculio Wrote:
scorpio Wrote:
Vasculio Wrote:
I'm tired of debating about Reptile. You believe what you want and i'll do the same. wink


theres no need to "believe what you want" when the facts are right in his fucking story line.


I'm sorry that i don't take the Shaolin Monks facts seriously, since i never play it
From what i hear... Shaolins Monks has strayed from actually facts in the MK2 storyline.

You see... you can pass on the Shaolin Monks crap on somebody who has never played MK1, MK2 and MK3.

But i played all these games since the beginning of the franchise. So in my book, Reptile did in deed have a human costume. wink


He did have a human costume. If you read the MK II Kompanion it stated he used a body to hide his reptile like features. It also states the longer he's away from his people the more the formal state he evolves into.
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01/16/2007 03:32 PM (UTC)
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The story is retroactive...
But i agree with Vasculio :
I'm tired of debating about Reptile. You believe what you want and i'll do the same =P
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01/17/2007 02:26 AM (UTC)
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This is stupid, Reptile is not human, the only reason he looks like a human in past games is because he is a palatte swap. They just took Sub-Zero, painted his costume green and gave him new moves, thats it, his skin was based off Sub-Zero and Scorpion to save space.

MKD konquest is not canon, only the main missions were canon to the story. Him appearing as a human in the prison stage in MK Deception is not canon either.

In short the topic creator is correct, the MKSM look is the canonized apperance of Reptile prior MK4.
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01/17/2007 09:31 AM (UTC)
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Those people who are tired of other's saying "Human Reptile" need to chill out. Yes, we all know that Reptile is Zeterran by nature, however, his peak of evolution is something that looks just like a normal human. If people remember one of the unlockable screens from MKDA called "Reptiles De-evolution" it clearly shows Reptile having a humanoid like appearance. And, like stated before, his nature becomes more feral as time goes on and the further he is away from his Maetriarch.
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01/17/2007 05:07 PM (UTC)
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Yes, but MKDA came out before MKSM, so that is the reason of "human" Reptile being in that picture (Reptile's De-evolution picture).
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01/17/2007 05:31 PM (UTC)
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-Reptile- Wrote:
Yes, but MKDA came out before MKSM, so that is the reason of "human" Reptile being in that picture (Reptile's De-evolution picture).

Proving what? Once again, MK:SM isn't entirely canon....if at all.
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01/17/2007 05:54 PM (UTC)
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-Reptile- Wrote:
Yes, but MKDA came out before MKSM, so that is the reason of "human" Reptile being in that picture (Reptile's De-evolution picture).


WTF? Just accept the fact that MKSM isn't canon. The only reason, I repeat the ONLY REASON that the MKSM costume was in MKA was because the fans liked the look, okay? If it weren't, you would think they would've changed it up just a little.

His story before has been that he was in a human disguise. None of the games after it contradicted that theory, except MKSM, which isn't canon! And besides, who else knew that Reptile was indeed a Raptor? No one except his employers, Shao Kahn, and Shang Tsung, and maybe anybody else on their side. I highly doubt any of the Earthrealmers knew what he truly was until around the end of MK3, which is probably why Reptile gave up his charade in MK4, because everyone finally knew, and he was losing his power to keep that state.

Okay, now that we have that away, consider 99.9% of everything in MKSM fake. Jade didn't really die, Kintaro never had his arms ripped off by Kung Lao and Liu Kang, Kano wasn't killed, Scorpion wasn't trying to kill Sub-Zero, I could go on and on. None of this stuff happened. Let go of the defenses of MKSM, because they are wrong.
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01/17/2007 07:33 PM (UTC)
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read his mk2 bio for fuck sake.

and besides the story excuse, reptile had a human appearance because the team was cheap and didn't wanna take the time to build a stop motion puppet (like they did with goro, sheeva, etc). they had limited memory and just swapped another ninja character.

they just wrote the story so that he would be in disguise.

by the time of mk4 thru mka, memory was no longer an issue and they were finally able to evolve the characters look.

the reptile pic that was mentioned doesn't mean anything at all.

mksm his look was updated to match his newer mkda look, and to make him appealing and look original.

bottom line is:
REPTILE ISN'T HUMAN.
HE WAS NEVER HUMAN, HE POSED AS A HUMAN.


end of story.

for those of you that think different, I'm sorry you're a dumb ass.
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01/17/2007 09:57 PM (UTC)
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read his mk2 bio for fuck sake.

and besides the story excuse, reptile had a human appearance because the team was cheap and didn't wanna take the time to build a stop motion puppet (like they did with goro, sheeva, etc). they had limited memory and just swapped another ninja character.

they just wrote the story so that he would be in disguise.

by the time of mk4 thru mka, memory was no longer an issue and they were finally able to evolve the characters look.

the reptile pic that was mentioned doesn't mean anything at all.

mksm his look was updated to match his newer mkda look, and to make him appealing and look original.

bottom line is:
REPTILE ISN'T HUMAN.
HE WAS NEVER HUMAN, HE POSED AS A HUMAN.

end of story.

for those of you that think different, I'm sorry you're a dumb ass.


Finaly some one who knows what they are talking about.

i dont get how some people can say he "was a human" wtf? if they played MK 2 & 3 then maybe they would know a little somthing.

cause last i checked a human cant rip his face off and spit acid at you.
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01/17/2007 10:40 PM (UTC)
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Legacy Wrote:
-Reptile- Wrote:
Yes, but MKDA came out before MKSM, so that is the reason of "human" Reptile being in that picture (Reptile's De-evolution picture).


WTF? Just accept the fact that MKSM isn't canon. The only reason, I repeat the ONLY REASON that the MKSM costume was in MKA was because the fans liked the look, okay? If it weren't, you would think they would've changed it up just a little.

His story before has been that he was in a human disguise. None of the games after it contradicted that theory, except MKSM, which isn't canon! And besides, who else knew that Reptile was indeed a Raptor? No one except his employers, Shao Kahn, and Shang Tsung, and maybe anybody else on their side. I highly doubt any of the Earthrealmers knew what he truly was until around the end of MK3, which is probably why Reptile gave up his charade in MK4, because everyone finally knew, and he was losing his power to keep that state.

Okay, now that we have that away, consider 99.9% of everything in MKSM fake. Jade didn't really die, Kintaro never had his arms ripped off by Kung Lao and Liu Kang, Kano wasn't killed, Scorpion wasn't trying to kill Sub-Zero, I could go on and on. None of this stuff happened. Let go of the defenses of MKSM, because they are wrong.





Did you read the FNC about MKSM?
MK Team Said that deaths were not canon, but they say that the rest of story IS canon...


Come on guys, MK' story is retroactive. For example, remember the case of Cage ́s death on MK4 , that changed on MKDA (he didn''t really die); here is the same about the human disguise...


The true...

- Reptile had a human appearance because the team was cheap and didn't wanna take the time to build a stop motion puppet (like they did with goro, sheeva, etc). they had limited memory and just swapped another ninja character.

- by the time of mk4 thru mka, memory was no longer an issue and they were finally able to evolve the characters look.

True...
So MKTeam re-made his appearance for MKSM.


So...

MK2 appearance is not longer canon.

MKSM's appearance = MK2 canon appearance








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01/18/2007 12:38 AM (UTC)
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-Reptile- Wrote:
Did you read the FNC about MKSM?
MK Team Said that deaths were not canon, but they say that the rest of story IS canon...

Yeah. Then they contradicted themselves and then in a later interview they said it was just a "what-if" story. Shaolin Monks is an unreliable source of story canon at best.


As for Reptile, as the early games said and has been pointed out frequently throughout this thread, he disguised himself as human.
What the exact nature of his human disguise/form/whateverthefuck was...who knows. Personally, I never bother to put much thought into it. Did he literally look like a human? Did he simply change the color of his skin like a chameleon? Was he wearing a human skin suit?

Here's the better question: who the fuck cares?
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01/18/2007 01:24 AM (UTC)
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XiahouDun84 Wrote:

Yeah. Then they contradicted themselves and then in a later interview they said it was just a "what-if" story. Shaolin Monks is an unreliable source of story canon at best.


Some things about MKSM are really canon. Reptile's appearance is one of them



XiahouDun84 Wrote:
As for Reptile, as the early games said and has been pointed out frequently throughout this thread, he disguised himself as human.


But then the MK Team changed it with MKSM. It's like Cage''s death on MK4. It was changed it.


XiahouDun84 Wrote:
Here's the better question: who the fuck cares?


Only Reptile crazy fans
like me XD


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Legacy
01/18/2007 02:15 AM (UTC)
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None of this stuff has official been answered, which means what has concrete evidence of truth still stands.
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01/18/2007 02:21 AM (UTC)
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It would be a good question for the next FNC =P
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01/18/2007 03:27 AM (UTC)
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I'm so glad everone is here to decide what's cannon, lets let the MK team do that.
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01/18/2007 04:08 AM (UTC)
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no, the real question is, why wasn't this thread closed on page one?

it shouldn't have even been discussed.

honestly, anyone that has half a brain and can read should knows that reptile wasn't human.

with that being said, i hope to hell this thread gets closed. but before it does, please allow me to dance as restitution for having read this crap.

*dances*

OK.
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01/18/2007 07:15 AM (UTC)
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Here's something to to think about. When you saw Reptile the first time, back when you were a kid, teen, young adult, whatever, possing as a human, what would you call that version? Just because people call him a "human" reptile, doesn't mean people think he's ever been human. That's just to classify his look. Now, sit down, and chill out, and shut the fuck up on this issue.
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01/18/2007 01:38 PM (UTC)
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SmokeNc-017 Wrote:
Here's something to to think about. When you saw Reptile the first time, back when you were a kid, teen, young adult, whatever, possing as a human, what would you call that version? Just because people call him a "human" reptile, doesn't mean people think he's ever been human. That's just to classify his look. Now, sit down, and chill out, and shut the fuck up on this issue.



yEs.
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Shinnox
01/18/2007 10:19 PM (UTC)
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i called him the same thing ive always called him: reptile

unlike most idiots around here, i don't have to make up stupid names for a character every time they change a look.
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01/18/2007 11:08 PM (UTC)
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READ THIS.

Liu Kang: "I think [Reptile] may be devolving into something more animal than man!"

Sonya: "No shit. I could have told you that the first time I saw him unmasked."



reptile should be viewed in the same light as robert england and those other alien lizards in V. It's a mask he wears or a suit.

As for shaolin monks forget it, stop clinging on to it like some kinda security blanket the only mk stories you should be taking real notice of are the official stories those being mk1,2,3,4,da,d and armageddon asuming armageddon counts as official, make up ur own minds on that one.
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01/19/2007 01:05 AM (UTC)
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Armageddon count as official, and MKSM parcially...
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