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04/15/2015 12:34 AM (UTC)
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LOL.

I said it before but anyone who thought the comic would have much in common with the game was delusional. The comic is telling different stories to the game and was written afterward.



That's nice.

Some of us think the story the comic is telling is FAR more interesting than what the story mode in the actual game apparently delivers. I was pumped to see the tandem of Reiko and Havik as boss and sub boss.

What we got was disappointing compared to the comic. If you think I was delusional for thinking the comic story was leading up to what we were getting in the game, whatever. That's your opinion. I was expecting one thing and we got something completely different that was 'safe' and so predictable it was a surprise(and not a good one) that it was what they actually gave us.


Anyone who thought the comic storylines would be related to the game is delusional. Nowhere in the build up were Havik or Reiko even had a single evidence for their inclusion in the game. Nothing NRS released suggested their inclusion. We were told the comic would be telling different stories and we were told that the comic would be a bad way to suss out who is in MKX.



Well that sucks, good sir. Because the comic > story mode in the game.

Shawn Kittelsen is telling a far more interesting and original story in his comic. It's disappointing.

Hopefully by the time the game drops on PS3 in June or July I will have gotten over my disappointment with the story(and roster, too) so I can just enjoy the gameplay.
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04/15/2015 12:37 AM (UTC)
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Mohinderence Wrote:
So much has been made of the lackluster story mode that people are forgetting about the rest of the game which is great. Core gameplay is tight and varied, towers are fun, cool krypt to explore, arcade endings are very interesting, the faction war adds to the online experience. There's a whole lot to love.

The problem is that the story mode is presented like a movie when the people on the game don't know how to write a movie. When it was an explorable world with a rich lore in konquest it played to their strengths. The stories will get tighter in time. Ditching the chapter format will help.

And I too was pumped for the potential of Havik And Reiko. But the game's storyline would have been in place long before the comic, we can't claim they ignored it. And I have a feeling the warm reception to the comic will lead to Havik in MK XI.



I think you just nailed the problem. I was expecting something far more daring and better in terms of story but that expectation was based partly on how good the comics have been. The problem is that Shawn Kittelsen is an actual story teller as a comic book writer, and the guys at NRS are simply not professional story tellers. At the end of the day, they are just video game programmers. As far as video games have come in terms of telling stories, we tend to forget that developers are NOT professional story tellers.
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Well, you all got your Tremor now. Can we finally move on?

04/15/2015 01:49 AM (UTC)
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bitchbitchbitchbitch

whinewhinewhinewhine

crycrycrycry

sounds like MK fans, alright............ And is it really not clear yet that the MKX comic and the MKX story have NOTHING to do with each other? The comic isn't even remotely tied-in to MKX. They're 2 different stories. MKX comic is non-canon. The only thing in the comics that is accurate is that Kenshi left Takeda with Scorpion. Absolutely nothing else in the comics happened.
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04/15/2015 03:58 AM (UTC)
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People talking about the low roster number. Remember that the roster variations means that 24 is actually like 30+ of the old games.
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04/15/2015 03:59 AM (UTC)
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frabn Wrote:
bitchbitchbitchbitch

whinewhinewhinewhine

crycrycrycry

sounds like MK fans, alright............


And is it really not clear yet that the MKX comic and the MKX story have NOTHING to do with each other? The comic isn't even remotely tied-in to MKX. They're 2 different stories. MKX comic is non-canon. The only thing in the comics that is accurate is that Kenshi left Takeda with Scorpion. Absolutely nothing else in the comics happened.


^ Do you have a source saying the comic is non-canon?
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04/15/2015 04:13 AM (UTC)
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The comics are canon, Kittelson and NRS simply said there would be very little if any overlap between the events in both. The comic is more or less filling in the gaps in the game's timeline
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04/15/2015 04:15 AM (UTC)
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Spider804 Wrote:
The comics are canon, Kittelson and NRS simply said there would be very little if any overlap between the events in both. The comic is more or less filling in the gaps in the game's timeline


Not sure why some people think the comics aren't canon...there are so MANY references in the game.
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04/15/2015 05:07 AM (UTC)
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Yeah, it's been confirmed by Boon that the comics are indeed part of the canon.
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04/15/2015 05:15 AM (UTC)
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The game is fucking awesome in my opinion!
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04/15/2015 05:31 AM (UTC)
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Gameplay is fun, but can't say I wasn't dissapointed with the story. Was simply too boring and predictable to me, I highly prefer the story being told in the comics and it 's way more inline with what I was expecting following MK9 than what we got.
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04/15/2015 05:57 AM (UTC)
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There's more than enough characters in the base game IMO (however you could argue that some of them are undeserving as others have more importance in the story that didn't make the roster). I think it's pretty solid overall, though. And we have DLC to look forward to.

Story mode was a little disappointing, anti-climatic and as you said the comic was better however the game is just so much fun to play. Story mode didn't damper my experience at all, because although it isn't as interesting as the comic, it's still not actually bad plus there's so much other stuff to do in the game. I think once you start playing you'll probably feel the same, and just see the comic as a companion piece to fill in the gaps.

I just hope in the next game they give us a nice balance of cinematic sequence and something like Konquest in MKD. It's a much better way to tell the story.
Konquest's method of exploration and sidequests, but certain events trigger the cinematic kinds of cutscenes. How about that?
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04/15/2015 06:20 AM (UTC)
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TigerStyle Wrote:
Konquest's method of exploration and sidequests, but certain events trigger the cinematic kinds of cutscenes. How about that?


Yes that would be awesome!!, i'm diggin' the game but even in easy i find it difficult (so rusty tbh..also still didnt get used to the XBONE) still the Konquest style i liked better than this kind of story mode.

Still an awesome game for me though
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04/15/2015 06:31 AM (UTC)
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samuhai Wrote:
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Don't know who told you guys to expect Reiko or Havik. That's you guys own fault tbh.



The hell it is!

WHAT was the fucking point of the comic if it has fuck all to do with the actual story of the game?

The comic got me excited for one thing but the game actually has something totally different that is boring as paste compared to what I was anticipating.



Check your own expectations. The writer of the comic from the very beginning said that it was predominantly unrelated to the games story. It's not their fault because you made assumptions.

Reiko would be cool in the game, but enjoy the game for what it is.
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04/15/2015 06:44 AM (UTC)
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Can we not attack the OP here? He has a point about the story being underwhelming. Love the game and style but I have to admit Story Mode was a letdown for me.
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04/15/2015 06:53 AM (UTC)
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The comic has got to be seen as at least official. It's even included with the big box version of the game and was discussed during the kasts.
I'm not bothered about the story anyway.

I think the old konquest mode might be time consuming to program and therefore costly to produce.

I'm still waiting to play but I think the game as a whole is going to exceed my expectations (which aren't too high, but being positive an' all).
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04/15/2015 06:55 AM (UTC)
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Yeah, i agree with the OP. Gamelay and all look great, story is the worst since Armageddon. I still can't believe Reiko with all his fans and influence in MK4 didn't feature? Making kids of original characters is less original than palette swapping Ninjas. At least the Ninjas had better back stories.

As now a 30 + year old gamer with a family and a full time job, you don't get a lot of time for games. The only thing you really keep an eye out for is a new MK or SF.

Maybe i'm getting too old for this shit..

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04/15/2015 07:22 AM (UTC)
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I'm 51. Tell me about it...
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04/15/2015 07:27 AM (UTC)
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tothepit Wrote:
I'm 51. Tell me about it...


haha you must have played pinball machines while i was struggling to do my first hadouken!!
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04/15/2015 08:10 AM (UTC)
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Spider804 Wrote:
The comics are canon, Kittelson and NRS simply said there would be very little if any overlap between the events in both. The comic is more or less filling in the gaps in the game's timeline


Thank you! I thought that to be the case. grin
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04/15/2015 10:06 AM (UTC)
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TigrarShokan Wrote:
Yeah, i agree with the OP. Gamelay and all look great, story is the worst since Armageddon. I still can't believe Reiko with all his fans and influence in MK4 didn't feature? Making kids of original characters is less original than palette swapping Ninjas. At least the Ninjas had better back stories.

As now a 30 + year old gamer with a family and a full time job, you don't get a lot of time for games. The only thing you really keep an eye out for is a new MK or SF.

Maybe i'm getting too old for this shit..



While I've found Jacqui to be a bit boring, Cassie is one of the best new characters IMO. It was just unnecessary to have both Johnny and Sonya on the roster when she's fairly similar to them (even though they're both really great in MKX). Takeda is nothing like his father Kenshi and Kung Jin is very different to Kung Lao (who is his cousin, not his father). So I don't think there is much of an issue having related fighters since they've kept them fairly original, aside from Cassie.
Honestly, the comic started off interesting, but the further along it goes, it seems to get strange. It's not like it's writing was amazing compared to the game's.

Killing off 3D era characters immediately just feels like they're trying a bit too hard for shock value or to appease what they think oldschool fans want. Why would Rain just stand there to get burnt by Kotal? Scorpion losing to Sub-Zero wasn't a "technical loss." Why is Scorpion portrayed as stupid enough to just keep fighting Sub-Zero after his curse wore off, and after he at that point in time would have already? I get why Scorpion immeediately killed Quan Chi in the story, but that at least made sense. And what does he mean by "misdeeds"? If Kuai was possessed, how was it his fault?
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04/16/2015 11:18 PM (UTC)
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Ed Boon said (On Twitter) that the comics are canon. Anyway I haven't finished the story yet but so far I have enjoyed it.

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04/16/2015 11:20 PM (UTC)
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Honestly, the comic started off interesting, but the further along it goes, it seems to get strange. It's not like it's writing was amazing compared to the game's.

Killing off 3D era characters immediately just feels like they're trying a bit too hard for shock value or to appease what they think oldschool fans want. Why would Rain just stand there to get burnt by Kotal? Scorpion losing to Sub-Zero wasn't a "technical loss." Why is Scorpion portrayed as stupid enough to just keep fighting Sub-Zero after his curse wore off, and after he at that point in time would have already? I get why Scorpion immeediately killed Quan Chi in the story, but that at least made sense. And what does he mean by "misdeeds"? If Kuai was possessed, how was it his fault?


They've only killed off two 3D era characters, Hsu Hao and Mavado. Frost survived and another one, Havik, is being presented as possibly the big bad of the comic. And I think you're seriously overestimating how much time Rain had to move out of the way--the sun beam is like instantaneous, and he was a bit too busy being roasted alive to get out of the way. Scorpion's the one who saw it as a "technical loss" and of course he's going to be biased, and he was still fighting Kuai because he was so enraged and losing control of himself--Hanzo talks about this right at the end of that chapter. And I'm pretty sure he was just talking about stuff Kuai would have done as part of the Lin Kuei.
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04/17/2015 07:39 AM (UTC)
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The only thing I'm disappointed in is I expect the Story Mode to reveal who the Blood God is, but he's M-I-fuckin'-A from this game completely. So I'm left scratching my head at that.
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