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03/01/2015 07:23 PM (UTC)
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Moshmellow Wrote:
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So, its Sonya and Cage at the end of MK9 is what some people are saying? Then explain why Raiden is wearing his MK1 attire all of a sudden. Either way, it makes little sense. I still hope this is some sort of flashback and that Shinnok will return after this.


Exactly. It makes zero sense why raiden would all of sudden go back to his old costume from the first game.


You know what else doesn't make sense? Why would Raiden be standing in a elder God arena with two random ass people dressed in military uniforms who are trying to beat Shinnok. Its Cage and Sonya. That costume Raiden's wearing is not his MK1 costume from the old timeline. That timeline doesn't exist anymore. This costume he's wearing is now is his official Neatherrealm War costume.


I keep forgetting its a BRAND NEW timeline. Probably is them so shinnok is once again banished then released again?

No, he is banished to the Netherealm way before the game takes place, and then at the end of the Netherealm war, he is defeated by Raiden, Cage, and Sonya and imprisoned in the Amulet, which Mileena gets her hands on. This isn't fucking hard.


Then basically he won't be playable in the game. Looks like that mk4 spot is between fujin and reiko.
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03/01/2015 07:25 PM (UTC)
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0RI0N Wrote:
mkfan_9999 Wrote:
Demon_0 Wrote:
So, its Sonya and Cage at the end of MK9 is what some people are saying? Then explain why Raiden is wearing his MK1 attire all of a sudden. Either way, it makes little sense. I still hope this is some sort of flashback and that Shinnok will return after this.


Exactly. It makes zero sense why raiden would all of sudden go back to his old costume from the first game.


Y would SubZero go back to his mk3 uniform then?


He was also unmasked in deadly alliance.
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03/01/2015 07:28 PM (UTC)
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Raiden was not the first & only character in MK history to use an updated version of their "classic" costume as an alt.







Man I hope that's an unlockable alt for Raiden & not a stupid dlc.

Maybe this could be Raiden's final playable game appearance for all you haters out there that masturbate to the usurper Fujin theory.
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03/01/2015 07:28 PM (UTC)
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0RI0N Wrote:
mkfan_9999 Wrote:
Demon_0 Wrote:
So, its Sonya and Cage at the end of MK9 is what some people are saying? Then explain why Raiden is wearing his MK1 attire all of a sudden. Either way, it makes little sense. I still hope this is some sort of flashback and that Shinnok will return after this.


Exactly. It makes zero sense why raiden would all of sudden go back to his old costume from the first game.


Y would SubZero go back to his mk3 uniform then?
In fairness it's also his MKDA primary not just his MK3 look. We've only seen all white Raiden in the past.
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03/01/2015 07:30 PM (UTC)
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mkfan_9999 Wrote:
Moshmellow Wrote:
mkfan_9999 Wrote:
Brady_Got_Caged Wrote:
mkfan_9999 Wrote:
Demon_0 Wrote:
So, its Sonya and Cage at the end of MK9 is what some people are saying? Then explain why Raiden is wearing his MK1 attire all of a sudden. Either way, it makes little sense. I still hope this is some sort of flashback and that Shinnok will return after this.


Exactly. It makes zero sense why raiden would all of sudden go back to his old costume from the first game.


You know what else doesn't make sense? Why would Raiden be standing in a elder God arena with two random ass people dressed in military uniforms who are trying to beat Shinnok. Its Cage and Sonya. That costume Raiden's wearing is not his MK1 costume from the old timeline. That timeline doesn't exist anymore. This costume he's wearing is now is his official Neatherrealm War costume.


I keep forgetting its a BRAND NEW timeline. Probably is them so shinnok is once again banished then released again?

No, he is banished to the Netherealm way before the game takes place, and then at the end of the Netherealm war, he is defeated by Raiden, Cage, and Sonya and imprisoned in the Amulet, which Mileena gets her hands on. This isn't fucking hard.


Then basically he won't be playable in the game. Looks like that mk4 spot is between fujin and reiko.


Shinnok can still be playable
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03/01/2015 07:30 PM (UTC)
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0RI0N Wrote:
mkfan_9999 Wrote:
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So, its Sonya and Cage at the end of MK9 is what some people are saying? Then explain why Raiden is wearing his MK1 attire all of a sudden. Either way, it makes little sense. I still hope this is some sort of flashback and that Shinnok will return after this.


Exactly. It makes zero sense why raiden would all of sudden go back to his old costume from the first game.


Y would SubZero go back to his mk3 uniform then?


Sub-Zero didn't go back. At this point, he's supposed to be wearing that outfit by now.
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03/01/2015 07:32 PM (UTC)
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Shinnonk was banished during the time of the dinosaurs. Then the mk4 plot (post-mk9, NetherRealm War) has Shinnok escape thanx to QuanChi. The trailer we saw shows him being defeated after this. I assume the amulet is now equivalent to the Phantom-Zone projector from Superman Comix. So Raiden imprisons him a second time. This is also stated to be fact on the very 1st page of comic issues 2 and 3.
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03/01/2015 07:33 PM (UTC)
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Mkfan_999

Regardless of the new timeline everything that happened in pre MK1 cannon still happened. In regards to Shinnok he was banished to the neatherrrealm. Quan chi helps him well have, a, small portion of story devoted to it. But this game will not and shouldn't be a complete rehash of MK4. Which is, why I don't think shinnok is the, major threat. I believe Mileena with the Amulet is final boss. Unless the red cloud is something. Course that could, be related to the demon Raiden is after in the comics. Unless that's only comic related
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03/01/2015 07:35 PM (UTC)
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Mkfan_999

Regardless of the new timeline everything that happened in pre MK1 cannon still happened. In regards to Shinnok he was banished to the neatherrrealm. Quan chi helps him well have, a, small portion of story devoted to it. But this game will not and shouldn't be a complete rehash of MK4. Which is, why I don't think shinnok is the, major threat. I believe Mileena with the Amulet is final boss. Unless the red cloud is something. Course that could, be related to the demon Raiden is after in the comics. Unless that's only comic related


I never thought shinnok would be the final boss. But his vhances now of being playable are slim to none.
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03/01/2015 07:37 PM (UTC)
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0RI0N Wrote:
Shinnonk was banished during the time of the dinosaurs. Then the mk4 plot (post-mk9, NetherRealm War) has Shinnok escape thanx to QuanChi. The trailer we saw shows him being defeated after this. I assume the amulet is now equivalent to the Phantom-Zone projector from Superman Comix. So Raiden imprisons him a second time. This is also stated to be fact on the very 1st page of comic issues 2 and 3.


And that basically deconfirms him as playable since thats johnny and sonya with raiden.
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03/01/2015 07:40 PM (UTC)
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FROID Wrote:
Raiden was not the first & only character in MK history to use an updated version of their "classic" costume as an alt.






Those alternate costumes where simply nostalgia fan service and has no meaning compared to what we are discussing here. Where in MKX, seeing this oldschool Raiden in the trailer means SOMETHING.

Which no one knows for sure yet.
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03/01/2015 07:41 PM (UTC)
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oracle Wrote:
0RI0N Wrote:
mkfan_9999 Wrote:
Demon_0 Wrote:
So, its Sonya and Cage at the end of MK9 is what some people are saying? Then explain why Raiden is wearing his MK1 attire all of a sudden. Either way, it makes little sense. I still hope this is some sort of flashback and that Shinnok will return after this.


Exactly. It makes zero sense why raiden would all of sudden go back to his old costume from the first game.


Y would SubZero go back to his mk3 uniform then?
In fairness it's also his MKDA primary not just his MK3 look. We've only seen all white Raiden in the past.


U missed my point. Why can SubZero rock a classic skin whenever he wants, but it's against the rules for Raiden?
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03/01/2015 07:45 PM (UTC)
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0RI0N Wrote:
oracle Wrote:
0RI0N Wrote:
mkfan_9999 Wrote:
Demon_0 Wrote:
So, its Sonya and Cage at the end of MK9 is what some people are saying? Then explain why Raiden is wearing his MK1 attire all of a sudden. Either way, it makes little sense. I still hope this is some sort of flashback and that Shinnok will return after this.


Exactly. It makes zero sense why raiden would all of sudden go back to his old costume from the first game.


Y would SubZero go back to his mk3 uniform then?
In fairness it's also his MKDA primary not just his MK3 look. We've only seen all white Raiden in the past.


U missed my point. Why can SubZero rock a classic skin whenever he wants, but it's against the rules for Raiden?


Read what I said in this very page.
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03/01/2015 07:46 PM (UTC)
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Ok mkfan.
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03/01/2015 07:47 PM (UTC)
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WeaponTheory Wrote:
FROID Wrote:
Raiden was not the first & only character in MK history to use an updated version of their "classic" costume as an alt.






Those alternate costumes where simply nostalgia fan service and has no meaning compared to what we are discussing here. Where in MKX, seeing this oldschool Raiden in the trailer means SOMETHING.

Which no one knows for sure yet.


Everyone is 10000% sure its johnny and sonya
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03/01/2015 07:54 PM (UTC)
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I'm going to laugh my ass off if that is Raiden's alternate costume and all this arguing was for nothing.
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03/01/2015 07:59 PM (UTC)
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I'm going to laugh my ass off if that is Raiden's alternate costume and all this arguing was for nothing.


How would making that Raiden's alternate costume in-game make this debate about the story's timeline pointless?
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03/01/2015 08:04 PM (UTC)
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@WeaponTheory. Agree to disagree. I think Rainden's mk1 alt IS just fan service, like all classic alts are. UNLESS his MKX blue & gold outfit is some kinda award from the elder gods for beating Shinnok a 2nd time? Then storywisie, the new fit gives raiden a powerboost, allowing his new variations. Idk, just a thought
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03/01/2015 08:04 PM (UTC)
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I won't get in to the story debate as none of us know. However, Shinnok clearly is wearing a new, gorgeous outfit, and that bodes well that he is playable. My guess is the red mist in the trailer is Shinnok being freed from the amulet. Whatever the meaning of the amulet scene, and the red mist scene, I find it hard to believe they would end MK9 with Shinnok and Quan Chi talking about how things are going as planned, then start MK10 by just offing Shinnok at the start. Guess we will all know on, or before, the middle of April! Until the, let the debate(s) rage on.
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03/01/2015 08:12 PM (UTC)
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Raiden spent the span of 3 games wearing the same wardrobe. After MK9 he went home and changed his clothes.
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03/01/2015 08:14 PM (UTC)
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WeaponTheory Wrote:
KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
I'm going to laugh my ass off if that is Raiden's alternate costume and all this arguing was for nothing.


How would making that Raiden's alternate costume in-game make this debate about the story's timeline pointless?


Because I highly doubt there will be any time travel involved. They may have been mum on story specifics but the one thing they drilled into everybody's heads is the fact the game takes place 25 years after MK9 and that the flashbacks are merely just going to fill in the gaps about what happened after MK9 so that the story jumps around a bit. That's all it is. Raiden traps Shinnok's ugly self, Johnny weakens him and Sonya's passed out on the floor. If anything, Raiden wearing his alternate (MK1 outfit) just makes him look more badass doing it. Besides, we can already assume characters will have more than one alternate. Kitana sure does.
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03/01/2015 08:22 PM (UTC)
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KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
WeaponTheory Wrote:
KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
I'm going to laugh my ass off if that is Raiden's alternate costume and all this arguing was for nothing.


How would making that Raiden's alternate costume in-game make this debate about the story's timeline pointless?


Because I highly doubt there will be any time travel involved. They may have been mum on story specifics but the one thing they drilled into everybody's heads is the fact the game takes place 25 years after MK9 and that the flashbacks are merely just going to fill in the gaps about what happened after MK9 so that the story jumps around a bit. That's all it is. Raiden traps Shinnok's ugly self, Johnny weakens him and Sonya's passed out on the floor. If anything, Raiden wearing his alternate (MK1 outfit) just makes him look more badass doing it. Besides, we can already assume characters will have more than one alternate. Kitana sure does.

Until further notice, I'm saying that revenant alongside Sindel is Jade.
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03/01/2015 08:22 PM (UTC)
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Is this thread and this conversations real, what the fuck guys
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03/01/2015 08:32 PM (UTC)
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FROID Wrote:
KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
WeaponTheory Wrote:
KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
I'm going to laugh my ass off if that is Raiden's alternate costume and all this arguing was for nothing.


How would making that Raiden's alternate costume in-game make this debate about the story's timeline pointless?


Because I highly doubt there will be any time travel involved. They may have been mum on story specifics but the one thing they drilled into everybody's heads is the fact the game takes place 25 years after MK9 and that the flashbacks are merely just going to fill in the gaps about what happened after MK9 so that the story jumps around a bit. That's all it is. Raiden traps Shinnok's ugly self, Johnny weakens him and Sonya's passed out on the floor. If anything, Raiden wearing his alternate (MK1 outfit) just makes him look more badass doing it. Besides, we can already assume characters will have more than one alternate. Kitana sure does.

Until further notice, I'm saying that revenant alongside Sindel is Jade.


Uhhhhh........you DO realize they showed off that exact costume as Kitana concept art on the KombatKast stream....right?
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03/01/2015 09:21 PM (UTC)
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That escene was the end of the netherrealm War, that costume is not from mk1, in the neww time line, Raiden MK1 outfit is MK9 outfit, Also the ones helping him are cleary Jhonny and Sonya, Why? Because they where the only survivors of team raiden from MK9. Nevertheless I think Shinnok will be playble, maybe he will scape from the amulet in another part of the game and will co operate with (or manipulate) the "Big bad guy".
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